Saint in Paradise Posted 15 January, 2011 Posted 15 January, 2011 Oh no they ain't Do you put dimethylpolysiloxane, an anti-foaming agent made of silicone, in your chicken dishes? How about tertiary butylhydroquinone (TBHQ), a chemical preservative so deadly just five grams can kill you? These are just two of the ingredients in a McDonald's Chicken McNugget. Only 50 percent of a McNugget is actually chicken. The other half includes corn derivatives, sugars, leavening agents and completely synthetic ingredients. As for the buns After sitting on a shelf for 14 years, the hamburger bun has yet to develop a single trace of mold or even shrivel. If you read the list of ingredients in these buns, this mysterious mummification becomes less of a mystery: * calcium sulfate (Plaster of Paris) * calcium carbonate (Antacid) * ammonium sulfate (Harmful if swallowed) * ammonium chloride (Causes irritation to the gastrointestinal tract. Symptoms include nausea, vomiting and diarrhea) * calcium propionate (Preservative) * sodium propionate (Mold inhibitor) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/whats-infast-food_b_805190.html .
saint_bert Posted 15 January, 2011 Posted 15 January, 2011 So why ae people not dropping dead in Mcdonalds left, right and centre then?
saint lard Posted 15 January, 2011 Posted 15 January, 2011 My 5 yr old has Maccy Ds for breakfast,lunch and dinner,everyday all year round. He is fine and i am a good parent.
Chez Posted 15 January, 2011 Posted 15 January, 2011 My 5 yr old has Maccy Ds for breakfast,lunch and dinner,everyday all year round. He is fine and i am a good parent. will he make 6 though?
RedAndWhite91 Posted 15 January, 2011 Posted 15 January, 2011 Was seeing a bird and staying at hers for a few nights, got a bit peckish late at night, decided to go to the near by drive through and I had 20 chicken McNuggets. Did the same the night after. 40 chicken McNuggets in 24 hours and I was absolutely fine.
Jonnyboy Posted 15 January, 2011 Posted 15 January, 2011 Watch that film where the bloke eats McDonalds continuously for like 2 months - it f*cks him up! Fast Food Nation I think
Colinjb Posted 15 January, 2011 Posted 15 January, 2011 This thread is making me hungry. I could really go for a Maccy D's. Who's with me?
Jonnyboy Posted 15 January, 2011 Posted 15 January, 2011 Supersize Me? Yes! They had doctors assess his deteriorating health.
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 15 January, 2011 Posted 15 January, 2011 I keep telling the kids they contain beaks and claws but didn't realise they were quite THAT bad!
toofarnorth Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 Yes! They had doctors assess his deteriorating health. If you eat anything bad for you constantly for a month you will not be well. Would have been just as bad on fish and chips or curry. Everything in moderation.
OttawaSaint Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 So why ae people not dropping dead in Mcdonalds left, right and centre then? the concentrations of the ingredients are too low get within 1% of the LD50 (lethal dose by which 50 percent of experimental animals die).
Colinjb Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 Really enjoyed my McNuggets yesterday. 6 of the little chemical soaked blighters..... Nom nom nom.
Doctoroncall Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 the concentrations of the ingredients are too low get within 1% of the LD50 (lethal dose by which 50 percent of experimental animals die). LD50s maybe aiming the bar too high for gastric irritations or other possible complications though! The TD50s would be the same, but it's all about moderation, afterall, water can kill you if you drink enough.
Pancake Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 It's 2011 FFS, does crap like this still get round the internet, even after years and years of debunks? Dont tell me, you have just found out that a ducks quack "doesnt echo" and that you can open a car door via a mobile phone if your keys are at home. FFS, get a ****ing grip people.
Saint_clark Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 Watch that film where the bloke eats McDonalds continuously for like 2 months - it f*cks him up! Fast Food Nation I think But no-one is going to eat nothing but McDonalds for that amount of time.
buctootim Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 It's 2011 FFS, does crap like this still get round the internet, even after years and years of debunks? Dont tell me, you have just found out that a ducks quack "doesnt echo" and that you can open a car door via a mobile phone if your keys are at home. FFS, get a ****ing grip people. Pancake in throwing a wobbly and still being wrong shocker. The OP is correct, as the link shows http://jessfastfood.tripod.com/fastfoodnutritionfacts/id25.html As it happens Macdonalds is no better or worse than any other cheap longlife food imo. You usually get what you pay for.
Pancake Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 Pancake in throwing a wobbly and still being wrong shocker. The OP is correct, as the link shows http://jessfastfood.tripod.com/fastfoodnutritionfacts/id25.html As it happens Macdonalds is no better or worse than any other cheap longlife food imo. You usually get what you pay for. Or, of course, rather than using dodgy Tripod links, you could just use the offical McDonalds one http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/food/nutrition/our-ingredients.mcd?menu_item=1653#dl Chicken (45%), Coating [Vegetable Oil (Rapeseed, Sunflower), Wheat Flour, Water (8%), Maize Flour, Modified Starch, Raising Agents (Disodium Diphosphate, Sodium Bicarbonate), Whey Powder (from Milk), Flavour Enhancer (Potassium Chloride), Egg Albumen (Free Range Egg), Ground Pepper, Breadcrumb (Wheat Flour, Salt), Salt, Dextrose, Ground Celery], Water (7%), Potato Starch, Vegetable Oil (Rapeseed, Sunflower), Natural Flavouring (from Free Range Egg), Flavour Enhancer (Potassium Chloride). Prepared in the restaurants using a non-hydrogenated vegetable oil The crap about the bun that wont mold, total myth that has been debunked so many times. http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2010/11/the-burger-lab-revisiting-the-myth-of-the-12-year-old-burger-testing-results.html PLUS, Huffingtonm Post is terrible at not checking anything it posts up.
JackFrost Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 (edited) I bought some southern fried popcorn chicken from the local londis the other week. Now as someone who is hardened to fast foods/takeaways in general even I dread to think what percentage of it was actually 'chicken'. I'm not sure a couple of them were dead. Besides it's the same with all takeaways and fast food, eat it in moderation and it won't do you any harm. Edited 17 January, 2011 by JackFrost
buctootim Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 (edited) Or, of course, rather than using dodgy Tripod links, you could just use the offical McDonalds one http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/food/nutrition/our-ingredients.mcd?menu_item=1653#dl Chicken (45%), Coating [Vegetable Oil (Rapeseed, Sunflower), Wheat Flour, Water (8%), Maize Flour, Modified Starch, Raising Agents (Disodium Diphosphate, Sodium Bicarbonate), Whey Powder (from Milk), Flavour Enhancer (Potassium Chloride), Egg Albumen (Free Range Egg), Ground Pepper, Breadcrumb (Wheat Flour, Salt), Salt, Dextrose, Ground Celery], Water (7%), Potato Starch, Vegetable Oil (Rapeseed, Sunflower), Natural Flavouring (from Free Range Egg), Flavour Enhancer (Potassium Chloride). Prepared in the restaurants using a non-hydrogenated vegetable oil The crap about the bun that wont mold, total myth that has been debunked so many times. http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2010/11/the-burger-lab-revisiting-the-myth-of-the-12-year-old-burger-testing-results.html PLUS, Huffingtonm Post is terrible at not checking anything it posts up. The official MacDonalds site like this one? Either Madonalds uses totally different recipes in the US (unlikely) or the disclosure of ingredients regulations are different here. Chicken Selects® Premium Breast Strip: Chicken breast strips, water, seasoning [food starch-modified, salt, autolyzed yeast extract, maltodextrin, chicken broth, natural flavor (plant and animal source), spice, chicken fat], salt, sodium phosphates, sunflower lecithin, maltodextrin, natural flavor (plant source). Battered and breaded with: wheat flour, water, food starchmodified, salt, spices, leavening (baking soda, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate), garlic powder, onion powder, dextrose, spice extractive, extractives of paprika. Prepared in vegetable oil (Canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil with TBHQ and citric acid added to preserve freshness). Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent. http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutritionexchange/ingredientslist.pdf Edited 17 January, 2011 by buctootim
norwaysaint Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 The official MacDonalds site like this one? Either Madonalds uses totally different recipes in the US (unlikely) or the disclosure of ingredients regulations are different here. Chicken Selects® Premium Breast Strip: Chicken breast strips, water, seasoning [food starch-modified, salt, autolyzed yeast extract, maltodextrin, chicken broth, natural flavor (plant and animal source), spice, chicken fat], salt, sodium phosphates, sunflower lecithin, maltodextrin, natural flavor (plant source). Battered and breaded with: wheat flour, water, food starchmodified, salt, spices, leavening (baking soda, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate), garlic powder, onion powder, dextrose, spice extractive, extractives of paprika. Prepared in vegetable oil (Canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil with TBHQ and citric acid added to preserve freshness). Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent. http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutritionexchange/ingredientslist.pdf Or you've just posted the ingredients of a different product.
SuperMikey Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 Hey, if it tastes good, eat it. We all die at some point, we might as well die morbidly obese with a body full of rat poison.
Pancake Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 Yup, differences in cooking methods mean different coatings in the US. Here is some "debunk" on TBHQ: http://scienceblogs.com/moleculeoftheday/2007/03/tbhq_mixed_feelings.php Dimethylpolysiloxane is e900. http://www.distanthealer.co.uk/enumbers.htm "E900 Dimethyl polysiloxane Anti-foaming agent No adverse effects recorded"
buctootim Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 Or you've just posted the ingredients of a different product. Does it matter? I couldnt be arsed to trawl through a long document to find chicken nuggets instead of chicken strips. The OP said there is dimethylpolysiloxane and butylhydroquinone (TBHQ) in McDonalds food. Pancake said it was an urban myth, but this document shows it isn't. As irt happens we are both right. These ingredients are commonly used in the US but banned in Europe, presumably not because 'no adverse effects are recorded'.
Viking Warrior Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 Macdonalds have bowed to the pressure of the saints web and will be banning some of the chemicals contained in mcnuggets notably dimethylpolysiloxane and butylhydroquinone they have also annouced they will be banning dihydrogen monoxide in soft drinks
Pancake Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 These ingredients are commonly used in the US but banned in Europe, presumably not because 'no adverse effects are recorded'. Banned? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TBHQ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydimethylsiloxane This is my beef (no pun intended) with the internet, people state thins like "the chemicals were banned" when they blatantly were not and others will buy in to it.
buctootim Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 Banned? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TBHQ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydimethylsiloxane This is my beef (no pun intended) with the internet, people state thins like "the chemicals were banned" when they blatantly were not and others will buy in to it. I agree. In a quick search its hard to not fall into the trap of giving the same credence to some crackpot site as to properly validated and authoritative sites. Anyway, just seen this _ http://pagingdrgupta.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/25/a-tale-of-2-nuggets/
Pancake Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 I agree. In a quick search its hard to not fall into the trap of giving the same credence to some crackpot site as to properly validated and authoritative sites. Anyway, just seen this _ http://pagingdrgupta.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/25/a-tale-of-2-nuggets/ And there's the rub, the real article behind the scare-mongering (real word?) article in SIPs post.
buctootim Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 (edited) And there's the rub, the real article behind the scare-mongering (real word?) article in SIPs post. Its all to do with concentrations though isnt it. 1g will kill you whilst 0.02g will kill any bugs in the food. If use of TBHQ is widespread in processed food what effect does eating it every day have cumulatively? Personally I prefer to eat fresh food rather than heavily processed stuff, but that doesnt stop me going to Mcdonalds once in while. Edited 17 January, 2011 by buctootim
JackFrost Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2151754.stm This article still makes me chuckle
Special K Posted 17 January, 2011 Posted 17 January, 2011 We say it's chicken, you think it's chicken, let's just pretend it's chicken.
JackFrost Posted 20 January, 2011 Posted 20 January, 2011 just had a limited edition rustlers indian chicken burger. delicious, even if it has made me put half a stone on
Dimond Geezer Posted 20 January, 2011 Posted 20 January, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2151754.stm This article still makes me chuckle "Mr Barbar - a 57-year-old maintenance supervisor who weighs almost 125 kilograms (275 pounds) - said he regularly ate fast food until 1996, when a doctor warned his diet could potentially kill him. Mr Barbar said he had already had two heart attacks and has been suffering from diabetes. "I always thought it was good for you. I never thought there was anything wrong with it," he said." Dontcha love thick yanks.
JackFrost Posted 20 January, 2011 Posted 20 January, 2011 "Mr Barbar - a 57-year-old maintenance supervisor who weighs almost 125 kilograms (275 pounds) - said he regularly ate fast food until 1996, when a doctor warned his diet could potentially kill him. Mr Barbar said he had already had two heart attacks and has been suffering from diabetes. "I always thought it was good for you. I never thought there was anything wrong with it," he said." Dontcha love thick yanks. That me burst out laughing as well. I also loved the fact they were suing the Fast food chains on the basis that they had "misled customers by enticing them with greasy, salty and sugary food"
SNSUN Posted 20 January, 2011 Posted 20 January, 2011 I eat in Maccy D's very irregularly when I'm being lazy - and every time I have it, I get the squits. The same applies to KFC, Subway, and Nandos, but weirdly not Burger King. Thought you'd like to know.
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