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Fine, but it isnt the most important thing right now, Promotion is. Hence I think NA and NC should de-riskthe chances of promotion as much as possible. If that means a couple more players, c'est la vie. And I agree with SFKA that no extra players is playing Russian Roulette.

 

Some people either have very short term and/or selective memories. We played "Russian Roulette" a couple of years ago when trying to get out of the champ....it didn't pay off and we were left with a huge squad on huge wages with no sustainable way forward. For me, the management teams approach to transfers this window is quite simple: the squad we have is good enough to get promoted but they are always looking towards the future and if possibilities arise to improve the squad for when we go up then they will do so, either now or in the summer.

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Some people either have very short term and/or selective memories. We played "Russian Roulette" a couple of years ago when trying to get out of the champ....it didn't pay off and we were left with a huge squad on huge wages with no sustainable way forward. For me, the management teams approach to transfers this window is quite simple: the squad we have is good enough to get promoted but they are always looking towards the future and if possibilities arise to improve the squad for when we go up then they will do so, either now or in the summer.

 

I have always maintainted that the risk taken by Wilde and Crouch by putting the club in hock was a worthwhile effort. It nearly paid off. The reason it didnt was George Burley's erratic management, not their decision.

 

We have a decent manager now and the club's financial position and constraints are COMPLETELY different. I dont believe this "self-sustainable" guff; it might be the long term plan, but I am willing to bet that NC can see promotion so close, within his grasp, he would go cap in hand to the Liebherrs or find the money elsewhere to push us over the line.

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OK trying to explain over the cacophony of howls the two main points here :

 

1. Why did I refer to Harding as "Deadwood" ? Because he has fallen down the pecking order clearly, he may still be 2nd choice LB but he seems to have had some howlers this season. I know there is a contingent of fans who think criticism of any player is tantamount to selling your kids to a paedo, but Harding has been poor this season, I feel. OK, lets keep one of Mills and Harding and flog the other.

 

 

Sorry, but from someone who has gone to every home game this season (this isn't a dig at you Alps) he hasn't had too many howlers at all and when he's played he's been his usual steady eady. I wouldn't say he's 2nd choice.....he's being cleverly rotated with Dickson and by doing that we get the best of both.

 

2 good LB's that are probably the best at this level.

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Sorry, but from someone who has gone to every home game this season (this isn't a dig at you Alps) he hasn't had too many howlers at all and when he's played he's been his usual steady eady. I wouldn't say he's 2nd choice.....he's being cleverly rotated with Dickson and by doing that we get the best of both.

 

2 good LB's that are probably the best at this level.

 

I recall reading on here several times about him doing badly for certain goals, giving the ball away too often and that hes fine going forwards but suspect defending.

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????? Has Lowe come back and we are on the stock exchange again ??

 

No, don't be stupid. Have you seen how many clubs are going to the wire right now? The financial climate is appalling and I for one hope that the club is 'run within it's means' as NC promised.

 

We have the star players, we have the best squad in the league, we have the manager and we have the right man in charge in NC. We don't NEED signings, we NEED to not end up like we were a few years ago. Do you not remember that we were days away from losing our club?

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I recall reading on here several times about him doing badly for certain goals, giving the ball away too often and that hes fine going forwards but suspect defending.

 

The opinion of a couple of people which you have chosen to take as fact. He has had one or two bad games (away from home from what I recall.) but is in the main a really good player at this level.

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I recall reading on here several times about him doing badly for certain goals, giving the ball away too often and that hes fine going forwards but suspect defending.

 

But thats all you can do, base your opinions on what people write on here or what Dave Intense Merrington might get wrong on Solent/Saints i player.

 

Harding has been no different to last season when he was runner up to Rickie in the Player of the Season vote.

 

You are of course entitled to voice your opinion but keep it away from slagging players that you never see play please cos at the end of the day you are making yourself look a bit of a berk, and I'm sure you are far from it.

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But thats all you can do, base your opinions on what people write on here or what Dave Intense Merrington might get wrong on Solent/Saints i player.

 

Harding has been no different to last season when he was runner up to Rickie in the Player of the Season vote.

 

You are of course entitled to voice your opinion but keep it away from slagging players that you never see play please cos at the end of the day you are making yourself look a bit of a berk, and I'm sure you are far from it.

 

FFS, I was challeneged to suugest other people who could be shipped out and I gave my opinion. F*cking deal with it.

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FFS, I was challeneged to suugest other people who could be shipped out and I gave my opinion. F*cking deal with it.

 

Oh get over yourself you self inflated pillock.

You were challenged because everyone knows you base your theories on nothing more than hearsay and garbage :-)

Its called irony mate - "lets see what alpine thinks" !!!

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And indeed was part of the Reading team that got to the play-offs in their first season down from the premier league.

 

Alpine has shot himself in the foot big time here.... and he wonders why a lot of people don't regard him as credible.

 

He isn't credible, he hasn't seen the current team play or any of the players. He relies on hearsay and internet posts to form his views and when challenged on them fails to provided any reasoned argument about any of them. He just recycles the same old clap trap, "we need to strengthen" with the arguement that incase we get injuries, i am truely amazed that someone who has no first hand knowledge or experience of the subject he is so vocal about can be so opinonated and arrogant.

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I think we need to strengthen....still a Papa replacement...we have no pace!

I know some think this may be mental but BWP on a loan until end of the season as Plymouth are desperate

for cash and he is scoring in this league.

He failed a permanent move because of a knee issue but we could get him for a few months for no risk.

Connolly is almost finished and we just need a back up.

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He isn't credible, he hasn't seen the current team play or any of the players. He relies on hearsay and internet posts to form his views and when challenged on them fails to provided any reasoned argument about any of them. He just recycles the same old clap trap, "we need to strengthen" with the arguement that incase we get injuries, i am truely amazed that someone who has no first hand knowledge or experience of the subject he is so vocal about can be so opinonated and arrogant.

 

Give it a rest; the p*ssing contest is getting very boring now. This constant snobbery against the opinion of ex-pats is incredibly arrogant and tedious. Its clear that me must have something between our ears or we wouldnt have got jobs abroad, whereas none of you can prove you are not clinically diagnosed morons. I know whose opinion I would consider more valid when faced with the choice between an ex-pat who does his best to inform himself and a moron...

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OK trying to explain over the cacophony of howls the two main points here :

 

1. Why did I refer to Harding as "Deadwood" ? Because he has fallen down the pecking order clearly, he may still be 2nd choice LB but he seems to have had some howlers this season. I know there is a contingent of fans who think criticism of any player is tantamount to selling your kids to a paedo, but Harding has been poor this season, I feel. OK, lets keep one of Mills and Harding and flog the other.

 

2. Lallana. Yes, in this form he is pretty much irreplaceable. And we were sh*te at the beginning of the season when he was injured. But he's injured again now. So, with question marks over the future of Puncheon and AOC, are some of you really advocating that we bury our head in the sand to the fact that we might be missing 3 or our first 6 midfielders and two of our most effective wingers in 2 weeks time ? And you still dont want to strengthen the squad ???? This thing about good players sitting in the ressies and not playing and therefore is a waste of money certainly isnt the case if we lose half our midfield by the end of the month, is it ?

 

Think Harding has started more of our recent games than Dickson.

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Give it a rest; the p*ssing contest is getting very boring now. This constant snobbery against the opinion of ex-pats is incredibly arrogant and tedious. Its clear that me must have something between our ears or we wouldnt have got jobs abroad, whereas none of you can prove you are not clinically diagnosed morons. I know whose opinion I would consider more valid when faced with the choice between an ex-pat who does his best to inform himself and a moron...

 

It is nothing to do with discrimination against ex-pats. Once again it is the FACT that someone who attends a lot of games is going to have more of an opinion worth listening to than someone who attends no games no matter how well they try to 'inform' themselves (how do you do that by the way? Genuinely curious.)

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OK trying to explain over the cacophony of howls the two main points here :

 

1. Why did I refer to Harding as "Deadwood" ? Because he has fallen down the pecking order clearly, he may still be 2nd choice LB but he seems to have had some howlers this season. I know there is a contingent of fans who think criticism of any player is tantamount to selling your kids to a paedo, but Harding has been poor this season, I feel. OK, lets keep one of Mills and Harding and flog the other.

 

2. Lallana. Yes, in this form he is pretty much irreplaceable. And we were sh*te at the beginning of the season when he was injured. But he's injured again now. So, with question marks over the future of Puncheon and AOC, are some of you really advocating that we bury our head in the sand to the fact that we might be missing 3 or our first 6 midfielders and two of our most effective wingers in 2 weeks time ? And you still dont want to strengthen the squad ???? This thing about good players sitting in the ressies and not playing and therefore is a waste of money certainly isnt the case if we lose half our midfield by the end of the month, is it ?

 

In answer to 2) The question marks are more likely here and in press than within the club. If they stay we do not need another winger. If they are going we do. Simple.

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Well he does have a point as you are attempting to defend the indefensible

 

Players are not deadwood if they lose form we are lucky in having both Dickson and Harding.

 

If we had had another striker to replace Lambert when he was out of form I suppose he would have been deadwood too

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Used 20 players so far in league - all quality players who would get in most sides.

 

plus Bart, couple of injured players loans etc. Decent size squad can't personally see the any deadwood in that 20 and would have to be pretty impressive signing to dislodge first 11

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Give it a rest; the p*ssing contest is getting very boring now. This constant snobbery against the opinion of ex-pats is incredibly arrogant and tedious. Its clear that me must have something between our ears or we wouldnt have got jobs abroad, whereas none of you can prove you are not clinically diagnosed morons. I know whose opinion I would consider more valid when faced with the choice between an ex-pat who does his best to inform himself and a moron...

 

Love a bit of irony! Please explain how best you "inform" yourself?

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Lee Barnard is one of the best forwards in this league.

 

Last season he got 24 league goals in 39 starts

This season he is on 7 from 11 starts.

 

He is our 3rd choice forward.

 

Connolly is a good striker and prepared to be a sub due to his age and injury history but clearly still part of clubs plans.

 

If we sign another striker we will end up with a forward, young and in form, who has scored 31 goals in his last 50 starts at this level being 4th choice.

 

 

Maybe get rid of him as deadwood?

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Give it a rest; the p*ssing contest is getting very boring now. This constant snobbery against the opinion of ex-pats is incredibly arrogant and tedious. Its clear that me must have something between our ears or we wouldnt have got jobs abroad, whereas none of you can prove you are not clinically diagnosed morons. I know whose opinion I would consider more valid when faced with the choice between an ex-pat who does his best to inform himself and a moron...

 

Superb irony. I dont have a problem with Canada Saints, Sweden Dave or Tijuana Tim so kind of p*sses on your arguement of my supposed vendetta against anyone that doesn't live in an SO postcode, but then they dont argue the toss about everything and anything. Also hilarious that you consider actually having first hand knowledge of a subject a P*ssing contest. Well done you for getting a job abroad, must make you a genius, presumably you know a bit more about your job than reading about it on an internet forum?

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I know this has more than likely be said is that I reckon the Biggest signing in this window Atm has got to be Lalanna staying for another 4/12 years as I think this is a Big signing IMO and also another will be Oxo-Chamberlain staying If he decides to stay too!

But it would be Good to strengthen our squad again and bring in a few more players but we will see!

COYR :D!!

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Give it a rest; the p*ssing contest is getting very boring now. This constant snobbery against the opinion of ex-pats is incredibly arrogant and tedious. Its clear that me must have something between our ears or we wouldnt have got jobs abroad, whereas none of you can prove you are not clinically diagnosed morons. I know whose opinion I would consider more valid when faced with the choice between an ex-pat who does his best to inform himself and a moron...

 

another classic post by "Alpine Saint"

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Give it a rest; the p*ssing contest is getting very boring now. This constant snobbery against the opinion of ex-pats is incredibly arrogant and tedious. Its clear that me must have something between our ears or we wouldnt have got jobs abroad, whereas none of you can prove you are not clinically diagnosed morons. I know whose opinion I would consider more valid when faced with the choice between an ex-pat who does his best to inform himself and a moron...

 

Presumably you had to move to Austria to be hands on with your job, therefore allowing you to make informed decisions and professional opinions. Yes?

 

If you were not there you would lack credibility? Non.

 

Surely you can appreciate the irony of your attitude when it flies in the face of 95% of those who can make first hand informed opinions on a topic then.

 

What do I know though... Damn my domestic employment. If only I had taken that clerical job in Valetta.

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I have always maintainted that the risk taken by Wilde and Crouch by putting the club in hock was a worthwhile effort. It nearly paid off. The reason it didnt was George Burley's erratic management, not their decision.

 

We have a decent manager now and the club's financial position and constraints are COMPLETELY different. I dont believe this "self-sustainable" guff; it might be the long term plan, but I am willing to bet that NC can see promotion so close, within his grasp, he would go cap in hand to the Liebherrs or find the money elsewhere to push us over the line.

I am sure he would - but he will not pay over the odds for players and he won't acquire players for the sake of it. They would have to improve the squad. I suspect that some of our youngsters would be more than adequate when called upon (as much as any league 1 journeyman).

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OK trying to explain over the cacophony of howls the two main points here :

 

1. Why did I refer to Harding as "Deadwood" ? Because he has fallen down the pecking order clearly, he may still be 2nd choice LB but he seems to have had some howlers this season. I know there is a contingent of fans who think criticism of any player is tantamount to selling your kids to a paedo, but Harding has been poor this season, I feel. OK, lets keep one of Mills and Harding and flog the other.

 

2. Lallana. Yes, in this form he is pretty much irreplaceable. And we were sh*te at the beginning of the season when he was injured. But he's injured again now. So, with question marks over the future of Puncheon and AOC, are some of you really advocating that we bury our head in the sand to the fact that we might be missing 3 or our first 6 midfielders and two of our most effective wingers in 2 weeks time ? And you still dont want to strengthen the squad ???? This thing about good players sitting in the ressies and not playing and therefore is a waste of money certainly isnt the case if we lose half our midfield by the end of the month, is it ?

 

But those question marks are yet to be answered with a firm result and I will be amazed and agree with you if we sell both players AND dont replace them but we have no need to sell so it will be on our terms if we do and I cannot see that NA and NC will put automatic promotion in jeopardy by selling these two and not replacing them. Also, if the OXO rumour in the paper today is true then it appears a loan back deal anyhow.

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Am I the only one of the opinion, that these "buy-buy-buy"-reactions, are starting to sound more and more like something Pompey supporters would say?

 

We have one of the best squads in Leauge 1 (yes, we're still a 3rd tier team), who quite recently replaced 73% of our starting XI in a game against a Premier Leauge squad and still won 2-0 with comfort. How many other teams, even playing in the leauge above us, can do this?

 

We have great talent on our books, we have a number of young players getting involved with the first team, we have even more making their mark in the Academy. We've loaned out an LB, who is making the grade in the Championship. We still have to get rid of about 4 players, 3 of whom are just a waste of space at the club. Our defence is solid, our midfield has in most games been in control and strikers are... well take look at the table.

 

Why should we bring in anyone, if they aren't any better than what we already got in the starting XI?

 

Do we really need any more players, when we're got cover for 73% of the starting XI?

 

Why do some people want to buy everything, when we're in a position to let home-grown talent get a chance to make it in one of the best teams in the leauge? Why bring in extra expensive players, when their wages could be used to give better contracts to home-grown players, who deserve a new contract?

 

Cortese has on numerous occations stated, that he wants to emulate Barcelona, and play more home-grown players rather than expensive transfers, if they are capable of meeting the mark. I fully agree with and support this point of view. It gives me an enormous sense of pride, knowing that most of our players came through our own ranks.

 

The quick-fix buy succes... well, take a look at the state of Liverpool and Pompey. Do we really want to end up like that?

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Am I the only one of the opinion, that these "buy-buy-buy"-reactions, are starting to sound more and more like something Pompey supporters would say?

 

We have one of the best squads in Leauge 1 (yes, we're still a 3rd tier team), who quite recently replaced 73% of our starting XI in a game against a Premier Leauge squad and still won 2-0 with comfort. How many other teams, even playing in the leauge above us, can do this?

 

We have great talent on our books, we have a number of young players getting involved with the first team, we have even more making their mark in the Academy. We've loaned out an LB, that is making the grade in the Championship. We still have to get rid of about 4 players, 3 of whom are just a waste of space at the club. Our defence is solid, our midfield has in most games been in control and strikers are... well take look at the table.

 

Why should we bring in anyone, if they aren't any better than what we already got in the starting XI?

 

Do we really need any more players, when we're got cover for 73% of the starting XI?

 

Why do some people want to buy everything, when we're in a position to let home-grown talent get a chance to make it in one of the best teams in the leauge? Why bring in extra expensive players, when their wages could be used to give better contracts to home-grown players, who deserve a new contract?

 

Cortese has on numerous occations stated, that he wants to emulate Barcelona, and play more home-grown players rather than expensive transfers, if they are capable of meeting the mark. I fully agree with and support this point of view. It gives me an enormous sense of pride, knowing that most of our players came through our own ranks.

 

The quick-fix buy succes... well, take a look at the state of Liverpool and Pompey. Do we really want to end up like that?

 

sensible post

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Am I the only one of the opinion, that these "buy-buy-buy"-reactions, are starting to sound more and more like something Pompey supporters would say?

 

We have one of the best squads in Leauge 1 (yes, we're still a 3rd tier team), who quite recently replaced 73% of our starting XI in a game against a Premier Leauge squad and still won 2-0 with comfort. How many other teams, even playing in the leauge above us, can do this?

 

We have great talent on our books, we have a number of young players getting involved with the first team, we have even more making their mark in the Academy. We've loaned out an LB, that is making the grade in the Championship. We still have to get rid of about 4 players, 3 of whom are just a waste of space at the club. Our defence is solid, our midfield has in most games been in control and strikers are... well take look at the table.

 

Why should we bring in anyone, if they aren't any better than what we already got in the starting XI?

 

Do we really need any more players, when we're got cover for 73% of the starting XI?

 

Why do some people want to buy everything, when we're in a position to let home-grown talent get a chance to make it in one of the best teams in the leauge? Why bring in extra expensive players, when their wages could be used to give better contracts to home-grown players, who deserve a new contract?

 

Cortese has on numerous occations stated, that he wants to emulate Barcelona, and play more home-grown players rather than expensive transfers, if they are capable of meeting the mark. I fully agree with and support this point of view. It gives me an enormous sense of pride, knowing that most of our players came through our own ranks.

 

The quick-fix buy succes... well, take a look at the state of Liverpool and Pompey. Do we really want to end up like that?

 

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I have - on relatively good authority - the view that Saints will NOT be signing any "marquee" players in this window. QUOTE]

 

Well I hope your wrong about that! .

 

Hammond and Lallana are obviously not 100%.

Holmes is out for the rest of the season and Puncheon may be gone before 31st jan.

Good though he is ,Connolly is still not a regular choice even for the bench, and with Barnard never playing a full 90 mins.

it means moving Guly around when it's obvious that he is a very good pairing with Ricky.

 

The present team is a success because of that midfield dominance, and the two strikers...

I still think we need that extra striker and a tough midfielder...

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We don't need a replacement in case Punch goes, we need a replacement if he goes. There's a difference.

 

If either Hammond or Lallana doesn't get back to 100% then we'll be a bit thin in midfield...

For all his stylish play ..one goal every three seasons from Schneiderlin doen't make up for those " missing" midfield goals.

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Give it a rest; the p*ssing contest is getting very boring now. This constant snobbery against the opinion of ex-pats is incredibly arrogant and tedious. Its clear that me must have something between our ears or we wouldnt have got jobs abroad, whereas none of you can prove you are not clinically diagnosed morons. I know whose opinion I would consider more valid when faced with the choice between an ex-pat who does his best to inform himself and a moron...

 

stop posting then!

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