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Average 20000 Saints fans at every match. IMO every ST a ticket, then 15+, 10+, 5+ matches at SMS finally if any left general sale. That way the fans that go to the matches get priority. Having said that it won't happen, STs then general sale.

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On this page there are two threads about guly, two threads about Lallana, two threads about Adkins.

 

So why can't there be one thread about allocation and another thread about pricing?

 

Apart from you, does anyone give a damn about whether there is one thread or two? Classic internet forum whinicking!!

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Hope we dont have to move seats, wouldnt it be easier to put them in blocks 1 and 2 and leave blocks 41 and 42 as they are.

 

No, it wouldn't be easier as you can't segregate the concourses in the Itchen and the mancs would have to use the same turnstiles.

 

Looks like you will have come over and join us.

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No it wont, tickets will be £30 +, its a business based around supply and demand ffs, I dont remember NC "going to war", I remember him setting his prices for his company and having it agreed with the FA and telling the Shrewsbury chairman thats the way it is.

 

actually Saints told the FA his ideal price, Shrewsbury told the FA theirs and then the FA decided on the final prices. HTH.
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Hate to say it, but I can't see the tickets being £15 for this one. When you have the world's biggest team playing Man Utd (;)) you know people will buy tickets regardless of the price. I reckon we can expect between £20-£25 adult price for this game, potentially a few quid less if the game is moved to Sunday 30th as it will almost certainly then be televised and we could be at risk of losing a couple of thousand of plastics who were planning on going.

 

Still, £20 is a lot to watch our arses get handed to us!

 

 

Not a chance will both clubs agree to £25 for an adult ticket. It will be similar prices to the Skates game so expect £30 for behind the goals/ wings and £32-35 for the centre stand seats

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Ok, I'll bite.

 

Dune, it's got absolutely nothing to do with that.

 

Season ticket holders have paid good money for their seats.

 

Taking it one step further, I think ST holders should be given a ticket free if they buy one - there's got to be some benefit to being a ST holder hasn't there? After all these recent ticket offers to non-ST holders isn't it ST holders time?

 

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Not a chance will both clubs agree to £25 for an adult ticket. It will be similar prices to the Skates game so expect £30 for behind the goals/ wings and £32-35 for the centre stand seats

 

I think you are probably right. The only difference is that Manure might (its a longshot I know) try a fraction harder than the Skates to have ticket prices closer to our League prices to appease their often taken for a ride ticketwise fanbase.

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Taking it one step further, I think ST holders should be given a ticket free if they buy one - there's got to be some benefit to being a ST holder hasn't there? After all these recent ticket offers to non-ST holders isn't it ST holders time?

 

I'm not a season ticket holder but I agree with this a bit, maybe a reduced price, but not a free ticket, that would just lead to people selling them on to ****ty mancs for stupid money.

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Taking it one step further, I think ST holders should be given a ticket free if they buy one - there's got to be some benefit to being a ST holder hasn't there? After all these recent ticket offers to non-ST holders isn't it ST holders time?

 

FA rules don't allow this.
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I am looking forward to Oldham away more than the Man U game. I really am not interested in tHE FA Cup when all I want is out of this league. I havw seen us spank Man U and also beat them on a number of occasions, and have seen us the last few times get battered by them. Even though I have been TO Ot probably more times than most Man U fans, I would have tried to get a ticket for an away game against them as my wife has never been to OT.

 

Don't get me wrong it is good to win, and to beat premier league teams, but if we go out I will not be upset, but if we do not go up, I will be.

 

COYS!!

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I bet you it wont be their B team

 

They played their most deadly rivals in Liverpool today and fielded Kuszczak, Evans, Carrick, Fletcher and Hernandez. That's half the team who probably wouldnt be in their "strongest" XI. Pretty sure a few more than that will be rested against us. And even if they dont, I couldnt give a toss about paying extra to watch superstars like Rooney, Giggs, Ferdinand, Vidic spank us in to next month. We'll give them a game and look competitive for the first 30 mins or so and in true Man Utd fashion they'll grind us down and win 4-0 or so. Nothing wrong with that, just dont see the sense in paying extra for the pleasure!

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I'm not a season ticket holder but I agree with this a bit, maybe a reduced price, but not a free ticket, that would just lead to people selling them on to ****ty mancs for stupid money.

 

or this. The club could waive the ticket tax for ST holders only perhaps. But they won't do this.

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lol

 

just accept that like any other game against a top team, the tickets will be circa £30 and that will be that

some ST holders wont be able to get their own seat

and the same moaning threads will appear here with open letters to the nasty chairman

 

fully accepted by me, But as someone that has no interest in attending and therefore unaffected by pricing why do you get so involved in these kind of threads?

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As always with these situations, anyone who really wants a tickets will get one.

 

And as always Dune employs dunce like logic and misses the point. Cortese has already rewarded loyal followers with relatively cheap tickets for the early rounds of the cup against unattractive opposition. Loyal supporters will have been further rewarded by the fact they have the opportunity to watch the top team in the country in the 4th round of cup. Cortese is only answerable to Saints fans. Your point would only hold any water if the match against the Shrews was away and Cortese demanded low prices or if the game against Man U was away and Cortese was demanding top prices.

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fully accepted by me, But as someone that has no interest in attending and therefore unaffected by pricing why do you get so involved in these kind of threads?

 

because it is a message board...

I have no intention of signing charlie austin myself..but I will comment if you dont mind..

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because it is a message board...

I have no intention of signing charlie austin myself..but I will comment if you dont mind..

 

Aren't you the touchy one, did our win yesterday ruin your weekend? Don't worry there is still the game at Oldham for us to lose points and you to get the chance to feel all warm inside. By the way the signing of Austin directly effects the team you support, the price of the tickets for the 4th round doesn't effect you in any way.

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Aren't you the touchy one, did our win yesterday ruin your weekend? Don't worry there is still the game at Oldham for us to lose points and you to get the chance to feel all warm inside. By the way the signing of Austin directly effects the team you support, the price of the tickets for the 4th round doesn't effect you in any way.

 

what are you on about..?

why are you suggesting I was us to lose against Oldham.?

 

why are you being a sap..?

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what are you on about..?

why are you suggesting I was us to lose against Oldham.?

 

why are you being a sap..?

 

you wanted us out of the Cup - teh win yesterday must have annoyed you.

You preached that it would effect the game during the week. If we lose points at Oldham you get the chance to say I told you so - hence warm feeling.

Sap? I love you to.

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you wanted us out of the Cup - teh win yesterday must have annoyed you.

You preached that it would effect the game during the week. If we lose points at Oldham you get the chance to say I told you so - hence warm feeling.

Sap? I love you to.

 

I can see you've got the measure of Delldays and Alpine Saint.

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I remember exactly what happened the last time we played Man Utd at home in Cup (Jan 09) it was season tickets first and each season ticket holder could purchase one extra ticket.....can't remember if it was eneral sale after that or reward for attended games. Guy sat next to me lent my his ST and used it for my wife and her friend to go....

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should be ST ticket first

ST buy ticket for mate

Then general sale Man Utd + linked to purchase another 2 homes matches

 

Agree ST holders first, but I can see no justification for allowing them to buy an extra ticket.

 

Don't disagree with the purchase linked to two other games btw for supporters with track record of recent purchases.

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I'm a STH. Go to a total of about 30 games a season.

 

I will definitely be going because it's Man Utd. I might well have given it a miss if it was a non-glamour team.

 

Don't know (or care) if this makes me a pseudo-plastic fan. But it seems to me absolutely sensible that many more people will choose to go to see glamorous opposition rather than pedestrian opposition. And pay more for it. Same goes (for me anyway) for pre-season friendlies. If we were to get Barcelona or Juventus or Bayern Munich, I'm willing to go and will pay top dollar. Am less excited about Saints v Reading (although I did go to it for the c.£10 they were asking).

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What about charging the maximum possible for FA4 and then using some of our earnings to subsidise away travel for the long distance mid-week games we have picked up. Or offer a deal for vital home games? That way part of it will be paid for by Man.U fans - and there'll be more at the match than the 4000 odd in the away section!

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What about charging the maximum possible for FA4 and then using some of our earnings to subsidise away travel for the long distance mid-week games we have picked up. Or offer a deal for vital home games? That way part of it will be paid for by Man.U fans - and there'll be more at the match than the 4000 odd in the away section!

 

I know Manure fans are not well liked, but they seem to get shafted by every club with prices hiked up when they come to town. I realise they get to see their side win most weeks, but should we become a force in say 20 years time, how would we feel if we had to pay 50% at every ground we visited just because we were good? Actually how'd you feel if Letyton Orient and the rest of League 1 started charging just Saints fans £30+ for games in this division?

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After Season Ticket holders get their own seat, I hope the club LINK the ticket sales to supporters who are the d/b who MUST also buy a ticket to one of Carlisle, Swindon or Yeovil as well.

 

This will have the effect of increasing the gate in those games from 21/22k to 24/25k and also discourage the "fair weather" types/manure supporters.

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After Season Ticket holders get their own seat, I hope the club LINK the ticket sales to supporters who are the d/b who MUST also buy a ticket to one of Carlisle, Swindon or Yeovil as well.

 

This will have the effect of increasing the gate in those games from 21/22k to 24/25k and also discourage the "fair weather" types/manure supporters.

 

Agreed. Probably will be too late to link to Notts County, so those three are good choices.

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Or the rearranged Charlton game? Unfair though I suppose as no definite date yet. definitley should do a linked sale; I wont be able to go, so thats 2 season tickets to " other Saints fans (Father in law and son btw), but even they would happily buy another, son prefers evening games as works many saturdays.

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Agree ST holders first, but I can see no justification for allowing them to buy an extra ticket.

 

Don't disagree with the purchase linked to two other games btw for supporters with track record of recent purchases.

 

Exactly, why should people be peanalised if they aren't friends with any ST holders? Only about 23,000ish Saints fans will be in the ground due to FA cup allocation rules,so it should be down to how many games you've been to/linked...not who you know.

If every ST holder buys for a friend that'd leave virtually no tickets left for anyone else.

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Exactly, why should people be peanalised if they aren't friends with any ST holders? Only about 23,000ish Saints fans will be in the ground due to FA cup allocation rules,so it should be down to how many games you've been to/linked...not who you know.

If every ST holder buys for a friend that'd leave virtually no tickets left for anyone else.

 

Is this correct?, I thought Poopey only had an allocation of 3200 last season (10%). I would hate to see the whole of the Northam for Manc b*astards.

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Is this correct?, I thought Poopey only had an allocation of 3200 last season (10%). I would hate to see the whole of the Northam for Manc b*astards.

 

No, it's a load of guff unless he thinks we're going to have 5000 empty seats in addition to the segregation.

 

Away teams are entitled to up to 15% of the capacity (for the FA Cup), but that has to be delivered with consideration of the amount of segregation required and the layout of the ground. Cheats FC had a lesser allocation last season (3200?) than Man U did in 2009 (I think that was 3800) presumably on police advice because they insisted the netting between fans took up a larger area. Man U have definitely had the largest away following at St Mary's due to segregation and the different rules for Cup and League matches.

 

As a Block 41er in the Northam I have netting about 5 seats to my left, for Cheats probably 10-12 seats into Block 42 was covered in netting, for Man U it was only about 3 seats wide. Presumably the same happens on the Itchen/Northam corner on the other side of the away fans, and there are about 38-40 rows (Northam goes from A-Z and then AA to about NN I think), so that would account for the 600 extra seats.

 

Interestingly if there was a replay we'd be entitled to somewhere in the vicinity of 11000 tickets.

 

And FWIW I think we'll see £35 tickets for this one, the people trying to make any link between ticketing for this and Shrewsbury are mentalists, and it's a bloody boring draw getting that lot again.

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I'm a season ticket holder so will be able to get my seat (well one in the Itchen North due to the block 42 exodus). But i agree with those that say season tickets holders shouldn't necessarily get the second ticket.

 

I prefer the idea of season ticket holders getting theirs, then on sale to linked ticket buyers [preferably for two games] on the database, then open up to a second for season ticket holders and those on the database.

 

That way we might see less of the plastic mancs and/or day tripper that pressure people with season tickets. And let's be honest if you're a season ticket holder you'll probably already have had a fair few of these little scrotes texting you. I've had chelsea and spurs "fans" thinking they'll get tickets from me, responded to with a simple **** off any spares are for regular saints fans that can't get tickets.

 

Personally i'd rather use any plus one to guarantee those that pay on the day normally get tickets instead of helping people that go only for games like this [/rant]

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I was at a social gathering last evening and guess how many new friends I had wanting to talk about Saints and "their terrific win over Blackpool" and "the wonderful draw against Man U" and hint, hint access to tickets?

 

The biggest surprise in life is that there are no surprises! Trust yourself and nobody else for the next few weeks. Ask, would they do the same for you? Would they ********!

 

Where am I coming from on tickets? I guess £30/35 will be the level set whatever we might wish to the contrary. Also we ST's ought to be offered our own seats first, not everyone is on the internet or able to walk up to the ticket office, there are plenty of ST's who are ordinary working blokes or pensioners on very modest incomes. I know a few older ST's who've already got squeezed out in the earlier rounds as they couldn't take up their tickets quickly enough. I don't like the 'Fastest Finger First' principle when it comes to football, as the weakest and poorest always lose out and corruption is always a oily smielling presence.

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I know Manure fans are not well liked, but they seem to get shafted by every club with prices hiked up when they come to town. I realise they get to see their side win most weeks, but should we become a force in say 20 years time, how would we feel if we had to pay 50% at every ground we visited just because we were good? Actually how'd you feel if Letyton Orient and the rest of League 1 started charging just Saints fans £30+ for games in this division?

 

If they could get away with it they would! (and some still charge more for grade A games - i.e against us)

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I know Manure fans are not well liked, but they seem to get shafted by every club with prices hiked up when they come to town. I realise they get to see their side win most weeks, but should we become a force in say 20 years time, how would we feel if we had to pay 50% at every ground we visited just because we were good? Actually how'd you feel if Letyton Orient and the rest of League 1 started charging just Saints fans £30+ for games in this division?

 

But when they go to Old Trafford the mean ticket price is about £41 so when they go away in cup games for £30 it's a bit of a bargain isn't it.

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quote_icon.png Originally Posted by dune viewpost-right.png

Normally i'd agree BUT Cortese has already nailed his colours to the mast with his treatment of Shrewsbury. It would be hypocritical for him to want to cash in now the boot is on the other foot.

What guff.

 

Shresbury wanted to charge high prices for a match that hardly anyone gave a toss about. They wanted to squeeze the maximum out of the small number of people who wanted to go.

 

Demand for this will be far in excess of capacity and therefore it is only right that the prices go up. No hypocrisy at all.

 

Considering the original response on the OS, I cannot see anyway this cannot have the possibility of hypocrisy to some degree. If your only argument is because of the scale, then you have to remember the effect of that scale for Shrewsbury compared with ourselves. Hypothetical at best at the moment and far too early to be stupidly putting the boot in, as we don't know what Saints want to do, or what ManU and the FA will insist upon.

 

If the club wanted, they could offer free / reduced league seats to those who have purchased cup tickets. Very difficult to do trying to tie this in at the time (possibly at any time) with the ManU game, because of the strict FA cup regulations.

 

quote_icon.png Originally Posted by ladysaint viewpost-right.png

Hope we dont have to move seats, wouldnt it be easier to put them in blocks 1 and 2 and leave blocks 41 and 42 as they are.

 

As IFHO has already commented, that is a no go because of the stewarding / policing. The reasons ST's have not been able to retain their seats, where the away fans take up their full FA allocation is because

 

  • You already have one section of fans having to move and the restricted choices that subsequently places upon them.
  • ticketing becomes difficult because you have to wait for ST's to see if they actually claim the seat they normally use.
  • ST's will often want to move if some / all of those around them do not want to take up their allocation.

When this has been looked at in the past, it has been proven to be far more practical and fair to have no reserved seats. It may sound simple enough and I expect Cortese responded upon that basis, but it would not surprise me if no changes were made for this game when the detail is looked at again.

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But when they go to Old Trafford the mean ticket price is about £41 so when they go away in cup games for £30 it's a bit of a bargain isn't it.

 

maybe now that is a fair point, but back in the days we played them in the Prem it was actually cheaper to go to Old Trafford than it was to SMS and lots of other grounds. I recall when Chelsea bumped their ticket prices up to £40 for Chelsea vs Saints it was £50 for the Man U game at Stamford Bridge. The price at old trafford at the time was £26 quid!

 

Out of interest I wonder what Manure would charge for this game if it was at their place?

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