Chez Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 no reason why we should not add to the squad if we can get the right player and that should always be the case. Dickson is a fine example. Brentford fans said he was the best leftback in the league and we added him ti the squad even though we didn't strictly need a leftback. Having loaned Mills out we now are brimming with talent and next season we can take our pick. Another good example might be to buy ****tu. A typical post I've seen above is that "We don't need another defender". But look at it this way. Jaidi might not get a new contract in the summer so we might need to replace him anyway. Also Martin needs games. How about we loan Martin out for the rest of the season and buy ****tu giving us four CBs. Then when Jaidi retires at the end of the season we have the ready made replacement in Stittu all fully settled in after helping us to promotion and to add to that we have Martin back with another 15 League 1 games under his belt. Win win win. If a club with a spare million takes Puncheon off our hands it goes withut saying that we need a wide right player. No matter what anyone tells you Morgan and Guly are not suited for this role.
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 (edited) Dont change the subject. You mis-represented my opinion. I am not going to discuss this further until you prove that I really demanded loads of signings. Begining to look a tad foolish, mate.... This is probably the greatest least self aware post i have ever seen. On this thread alone you have constantly ignored my questions to you then you pick one part of one sentance, ignoring everything else and the questions i have put to you all through this thread and accuse me of changing the subject. We all know your well documented views on strengthening, we've heard them enough, so come on, who and where? Come up with something tangable instead of "we need to strengthen" Surely you've read enough internet posts to form an opinon on that as well. Your chubby little fingers have been angrily tapping away all day today haven't they my chunky friend, maybe if you spent less time in front of your computer and went out for a walk in those mountains the club might have in stock a replica shirt that fits you. Edited 10 January, 2011 by Turkish
Avenue Saint Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 Seaborne out, ****tu in Hammond out, danns in Connolly out, Austin in As a treat, let's get pilkington in too ;-) Guly signed up, oxo retained and a dream January window!
Avenue Saint Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 Seaborne out, ****tu in Hammond out, danns in Connolly out, Austin in As a treat, let's get pilkington in too ;-) Guly signed up, oxo retained and a dream January window! How would this be for a squad? Davis Bart Fonte ****tu Jaidi Martin Richardson Butterfield Dickson Harding Morgan Danns Chaplow Puncheon Mills Pilkington Oxo Lallana Guly Lambert Austin Barnard
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 because always look to improve and towards Championship Damned if he does damned if he doen't. As we have made bids Alpine can say that we need to improve, strenghten etc and the management agree, if we haven't made bids he can moan that the club are not backing up their statements about needing promtion by cash etc, either way he cant lose. I find it hilarious that someone can be so aggresive and arrogant about something they know absolutely nothing about other than cherry picking other peoples opinons and passing them off as his own, it's brilliant. The funniest thing of all is that despite all his "we need to strengthen" mantra, he has failed to name a single player who he thinks would fit the bill. I think that tells us all we need to know about his football knowledge.
NickG Posted 10 January, 2011 Author Posted 10 January, 2011 WTF does that mean ? If he really thinks he has the quality, and most importantly, the DEPTH to get promoted, why bring new faces in unnecessarily and risk disrupting a winning formula ? Better to bring them in during the summer. I content that he still has nagging doubts about the next 20+ games and the ability to maintain the form of the team. We are talking about potentially single-point margins at this level now. Think its quite simple. He is confident that he has the ability with the players available to get us promoted. Any manager, at any club in the world would always look at better players if they are available and he thought it would add to the ease with which can achieve the objectives and the long term plan. It is much better to get players in for championship challenge now - get them integrated into the squad and used to winning - maybe actually start a season well!
NickG Posted 10 January, 2011 Author Posted 10 January, 2011 F**k me, is this a court case or something ? 1) Answered 2) Someone for injured Connolly, someone for Puncheon if he goes since so many on here think AOC cant do the whole season, and another CB would leave me feeling warm inside. 3) Inconsistency (so what if we have a purple patch right now ? We have 20+ games to go) and injury. I repeat: NC wants promotion nailed-on this season. not a court case! No need to feel defensive just because someone asked you to back up an opinion! connolly is often on bench now - not sure how much he can be relied upon. As in my comparison with Brighton still don't think we need another forward. but it maybe a position we can add to, maybe a younger propect. If Puncheon and Ox-C left then that would change the squad - but are here at the moment. Hasn't Lambert suffered from inconsistency already? Are our 5 forwards of higher ability than the 2 or 3 at other clubs more likely to suffer from inconsistency?
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 not a court case! No need to feel defensive just because someone asked you to back up an opinion! connolly is often on bench now - not sure how much he can be relied upon. As in my comparison with Brighton still don't think we need another forward. but it maybe a position we can add to, maybe a younger propect. If Puncheon and Ox-C left then that would change the squad - but are here at the moment. Hasn't Lambert suffered from inconsistency already? Are our 5 forwards of higher ability than the 2 or 3 at other clubs more likely to suffer from inconsistency? It's not his opinion dont forget it's everyone elses.
SaintBobby Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 Whats the point of being "informed" and drawing the wrong conclusions ? Just to satisfy to Über fans on here, it seems. I'll leave you to it, then... The point is that being informed makes it far more likely that you will get to the right conclusion. Your views aren't very informed. You don't see very many matches at all. Your opinions are therefore very uninformed and very little credence whould be attached to them. It doesn't prove your wrong, just makes it much more likely that you are. Informed people might be wrong. Uninformed people might be right. But that would be statistically unusual. It's a very good starting point to assume that informed people have a far, far better chance of being right on any given subject than uniformed people. As an aside, most remotely normal people who express an opinion they know to be poorly informed usually recognise this in the way they express their views. E.g. "I've never actually been to Australia, but I gather it's a very pleasant place to live" or "I've never actually seen The Godfather, but I hear it's a very good film". Not e.g. "I've never left Grimsby, but I can tell you for sure that it's a much nicer place than Sydney" or "I've never actually seen any of the Star Wars movies, but the Empire Strikes Back is definitely the worst of the original three movies" As I say, everyone is equally entitled to an opinion. But not all opinions are equal. I mean no offence at all when I say that the mere fact that you attend virtually no games means that your views are far less likely to be accurate than the opinions of someone who regularly does go to matches. The only rational thing to do is to accord your views much less weight than those of most of the posters on here.
alpine_saint Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 This is probably the greatest least self aware post i have ever seen. On this thread alone you have constantly ignored my questions to you then you pick one part of one sentance, ignoring everything else and the questions i have put to you all through this thread and accuse me of changing the subject. We all know your well documented views on strengthening, we've heard them enough, so come on, who and where? Come up with something tangable instead of "we need to strengthen" Surely you've read enough internet posts to form an opinon on that as well. Your chubby little fingers have been angrily tapping away all day today haven't they my chunky friend, maybe if you spent less time in front of your computer and went out for a walk in those mountains the club might have in stock a replica shirt that fits you. Deary me... You cant quote me, can you ? Talk about seeing what you want to...
alpine_saint Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 Think its quite simple. He is confident that he has the ability with the players available to get us promoted. Any manager, at any club in the world would always look at better players if they are available and he thought it would add to the ease with which can achieve the objectives and the long term plan. It is much better to get players in for championship challenge now - get them integrated into the squad and used to winning - maybe actually start a season well! At the cost of jeopardising promotion through disruption ? No way. Our promotion campaign is going to go to the wire. He sees them as a necessity to keep us in the top two over the course of 20+ games, I reckon.
alpine_saint Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 The point is that being informed makes it far more likely that you will get to the right conclusion. Your views aren't very informed. You don't see very many matches at all. Your opinions are therefore very uninformed and very little credence whould be attached to them. It doesn't prove your wrong, just makes it much more likely that you are. Informed people might be wrong. Uninformed people might be right. But that would be statistically unusual. It's a very good starting point to assume that informed people have a far, far better chance of being right on any given subject than uniformed people. As an aside, most remotely normal people who express an opinion they know to be poorly informed usually recognise this in the way they express their views. E.g. "I've never actually been to Australia, but I gather it's a very pleasant place to live" or "I've never actually seen The Godfather, but I hear it's a very good film". Not e.g. "I've never left Grimsby, but I can tell you for sure that it's a much nicer place than Sydney" or "I've never actually seen any of the Star Wars movies, but the Empire Strikes Back is definitely the worst of the original three movies" As I say, everyone is equally entitled to an opinion. But not all opinions are equal. I mean no offence at all when I say that the mere fact that you attend virtually no games means that your views are far less likely to be accurate than the opinions of someone who regularly does go to matches. The only rational thing to do is to accord your views much less weight than those of most of the posters on here. There is absoutely no fact in your post. Just a load of guff and supposition.
SaintBobby Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 There is absoutely no fact in your post. Just a load of guff and supposition. It is a fact that: 1. Informed opinions are much more likely to be accurate than uninformed opinions. This is true of all subjects at all times. It is also a fact that: 2. Your opinions on the merits/demerits of Southampton's team are relatively uninformed given that you don't attend many (any?) matches. Do you deny that either of these statements are facts?
NorthamSteve Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 The point is that being informed makes it far more likely that you will get to the right conclusion. Your views aren't very informed. You don't see very many matches at all. Your opinions are therefore very uninformed and very little credence whould be attached to them. It doesn't prove your wrong, just makes it much more likely that you are. Informed people might be wrong. Uninformed people might be right. But that would be statistically unusual. It's a very good starting point to assume that informed people have a far, far better chance of being right on any given subject than uniformed people. As an aside, most remotely normal people who express an opinion they know to be poorly informed usually recognise this in the way they express their views. E.g. "I've never actually been to Australia, but I gather it's a very pleasant place to live" or "I've never actually seen The Godfather, but I hear it's a very good film". Not e.g. "I've never left Grimsby, but I can tell you for sure that it's a much nicer place than Sydney" or "I've never actually seen any of the Star Wars movies, but the Empire Strikes Back is definitely the worst of the original three movies" As I say, everyone is equally entitled to an opinion. But not all opinions are equal. I mean no offence at all when I say that the mere fact that you attend virtually no games means that your views are far less likely to be accurate than the opinions of someone who regularly does go to matches. The only rational thing to do is to accord your views much less weight than those of most of the posters on here. There is absoutely no fact in your post. Just a load of guff and supposition. I disagree, if the main points are correct; ie; you attend very few games, then there is no aguing with that. If this isn't the case then it is guff. Bear in mind that he stated that he doesn't intend to upset you.
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 (edited) Deary me... You cant quote me, can you ? Talk about seeing what you want to...[/QUOTE] :lol: Coming from you that is hilarious! As i say, you still haven't answered my question, who and in what positions? Might i also add that i asked you these questions before you started picking lines from paragraphs that suit what you want to see. No i cant quote you saying "we absolutely need to sign 10 players or we will not be promoted this season" word for word, but as you well know, you have been very vocal is saying we NEED new players, it's damn well clear what you think, or have you been arguing over nothing now you dont think that is that case? So do we or dont we? if so who and where? Edited 10 January, 2011 by Turkish
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 There is absoutely no fact in your post. Just a load of guff and supposition. I take it the irony of your post is lost on you.
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 At the cost of jeopardising promotion through disruption ? No way. Our promotion campaign is going to go to the wire. He sees them as a necessity to keep us in the top two over the course of 20+ games, I reckon. Sorry, if he said that its contradictory b*ll*cks. Why have we made "substantial bids" at all if the squad is good enough ? Why not keep our powder (and funds) dry for recruiting in the summer for the Championship ? If he really said that, it is a thinly -veilled attempt to stop other clubs demanding silly money by making it seem we are not that fussed about those players really. He wants them to doubly ensure we get promotion and are not derailled by an unfortunate injury or two. You are contradicting yourself now Alps, give it up, you are looking really foolish.
Daren W Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 Bang on the money my a*se. I'll give the same answer I always do - I will start thinking there is some merit in this attendance-in-the-flesh argument the day I start seeing consistent comments from people who were at the game. How can "you werent there and didnt see it" be a convincing argument when one person who was at a game can claim Player X was sh*t and another person at the same game can claim the same player was brilliant ? It happens on here EVERY GAME. I read all the feedback I can before forming a judgement - positive and negative. And I watch on internet feeds and listen on the radio whenever I have the chance. To argue that ex-pat fans should shut the f*ck up and not have an opinion about issues affecting the team they support is just preposterous. FFS Alpine you do make it difficult for yourself, do you have to argue every point as if the veins on your forehead are about to burst?? No one, I repeat no one, has written off the views of all expats, that's just in your view. Turkish has just stated, quite reasonably, that if you're agrresively posting on here that the squad needs strengthening or we won't go up then it's not that big an ask to question you on what grounds you feel that's required?? The "fact" we may incure injuries, as any club can do, just doesn't cut it with me.. You state that because people have differing opinions, that's why you feel the views expressed by people attending the game in the flesh aren't that valid? So on that assumption why do you believe everything you hear on the radio or on here? It's all just opinion after all isn't it? You can't write off the whole "Did you actually see the game" argument because you can get varying opinions on the game. If anything it shows how subjective football is and how you can't take one person's views as gospel. Until you explain just why this sqaud isn't good enough on it's own, without the excuse that we may incure injuries, then people will continue to push you for answers and berate your opinion...
NickG Posted 10 January, 2011 Author Posted 10 January, 2011 At the cost of jeopardising promotion through disruption ?. so new signings are bad thing?
NickG Posted 10 January, 2011 Author Posted 10 January, 2011 Can you remember StuRomsey when he got himself in a muddle, failing to back up his points and realising ever other poster disagreed with him - he invented DaveBenson who came on and posted that he agreed with him(self)! DaveAlpineBenson anyone?
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 (edited) So to sum this thread up then.... Alpine thinks we need new signings for promotion as the squad needs strengthening, however he cant say how he knows it does, why or where we need to strengthen or with which players, we just need to strengthen. He has never seen the current Saints team or any of our players play, so forms his opinons based on what he reads on internet forums and sites. Despite 95% of the people posting on this thread, most of them having see the team play, agreeing that new signings are nice to have rather than essential for promtion, a forum from which Alpine must surely use to form his opinion, he still insists that they are essential, although he cant confirm why, unless it's because someone MIGHT get injured. Despite insisting we need new players to make sure promotion is "nailed on" He cant make up his mind if we should sign new players ready for next season now, if we buy them now if we giving them time to settle in might upset our promotion bid, however what if someone gets injured and we haven't signed anyone? According to Alps that will ruin our promotion bid as well By the way you are all talking b*llocks and he right. Have i missed anything? Edited 10 January, 2011 by Turkish
CanadaSaint Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 I'm in the middle on this stuff. I haven't seen this squad play "in the flesh" so I know that my thoughts have very limited value and I tend to keep them to myself. On the other hand, I do know my football and I watch and read everything I can find that is Saints-related. I'm also guided by the views of those whom I know are very knowledgeable and perceptive about the game - Derry (a long time friend and former manager) being a good example. These are bases for a valid opinion, although I'll still only post when I'm reasonably confident about what I'm posting. By and large, people who go to games regularly have a more informed viewpoint than me. In contrast, I've been to countless games over the years and been shocked at the utter stupidity of some of the comments made about tactics and individual players. These comments portray such a mind-blowing lack of knowledge about football that I can only shake my head. Yes, these people may have the credibility of being season ticket holders and seeing every (home) game, but the credibility ends as soon as they flap their lips or start typing. Anyway, that having been said, I'll offer these thoughts: 1. Squad depth will be much more important this year than it was last year because (injuries aside) there's going to be a logjam up the road. We are better placed to face it than anyone in the division but I think we could consolidate a little more in positions already identified by this forum. 2. Adkins has brought not only a style but a steel. I watched Newcastle get turned over by a weaker team on a dodgy pitch, and I saw how quickly they resorted to hoofing before - basically - surrendering. It seemed all too familiar. We, on the other hand, have started to win at grounds where we would probably have dropped points last year, and we're slowly but surely forging an attractive style for the future (not easy in this division). We’re managing the tricky task of getting out of this division with a team that could do well one division up (and perhaps higher). 3. No matter how many games we attend or don't attend, there are some things that occur inside pro clubs that are beyond the sight and hearing of the fans. These are things that push decisions in certain directions - while the fans (local or distant) ask WTF? There's no geographical advantage there. 4. No matter how many games we attend or don't attend, none of us is “privy” to key information such as the level of transfer funding available in either the shorter or longer term. Without that knowledge, none of us is in an informed position to talk about who we should or shouldn’t buy. Again, no geographical advantage there. At the end of the day, though, we’re all Saints fans, aren’t we?
david in sweden Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 F**k me, is this a court case or something ? 1) Answered 2) Someone for injured Connolly, someone for Puncheon if he goes since so many on here think AOC cant do the whole season, and another CB would leave me feeling warm inside. 3) Inconsistency (so what if we have a purple patch right now ? We have 20+ games to go) and injury. I repeat: NC wants promotion nailed-on this season. Suddenly I find myself agreeing with Alps AND Turkish ...is this a record ? Chaplow already here. Lallana is an old /new signing. Best of the lot. Guly still to sign when his wife gets her passport. Puncheon may still go, but if Millwall can't afford him and Pardew takes someone else , then he'll stay. So do we need more. AOC is a great prospect, but as NA pointed out he's not upto 90 mins. every game, and he's often running on empty in the last quarter. Just now, we need someone who can run 10,000 meters a game.. and last the pace for 95 mins. I say YES. Two will do for me . A good tough-tackling midfielder who won't pass to the opposition every other move. and another striker. Not a Lambert clone necessarily, but someone with a bit of height who can put himself about and knows where the back of the net is . CCC here we come ! that'll do it for me. Good cover for every position in case the unexpected happens, and a bit of competition for places.
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 Two reasonable and non confrontational, non arrogant and non aggressive posts from ex pats, they didn't even say everyone else was talking b*llocks, Sweden Dave even goes as far as saying what type players we need, you see Alps it can be done without taking the skin off your chubby fingers tips due to such quick and angry typing. As i said as above Dave, in an ideal world i'd luck us to keep everyone, a motivated Puncheon will be like having a new player anyway if he wants to stay, if not then that area needs to be looked at. And i'd like us to sign a Charlie Austin standard striker, young, motivated but with a decent record who will get goals, Austin or Jordan Rhodes tick all the boxes on that score. People have mentioned Adam Le Fondre and on paper he looks good but I've never seen him play other than goal highlights so cant comment, i wouldn't be a hyprocrite and say someone i had never seen play was the answer to everything and will guarentee promotion.
CanadaSaint Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 And i'd like us to sign a Charlie Austin standard striker, young, motivated but with a decent record who will get goals, Austin or Jordan Rhodes tick all the boxes on that score. The thing that worries me about Austin - and it fits into this "going to all the games doesn't help" category - is the impact he might have on dressing room chemistry. None of us knows whether he really is the arrogant c*ck he's alleged to be, but Adkins has spent too much time getting the atmosphere right to risk losing it all with one signing, no matter how good the player. I know you weren't advocating that we sign Austin in particular, but the chemistry angle is crucial when you have a big squad of quality players. Ask Mancini!
alpine_saint Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 You are contradicting yourself now Alps, give it up, you are looking really foolish. You what ???? You are bonkers. And I overestimated your reading ability, it seems. There is nothing contradictory in there whatsoever.
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 You what ???? You are bonkers. And I overestimated your reading ability, it seems. There is nothing contradictory in there whatsoever. No of course there isn't, there wouldn't be, its not you, it's everyone else
alpine_saint Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 So to sum this thread up then.... Alpine thinks we need new signings for promotion as the squad needs strengthening, however he cant say how he knows it does, why or where we need to strengthen or with which players, we just need to strengthen. He has never seen the current Saints team or any of our players play, so forms his opinons based on what he reads on internet forums and sites. Despite 95% of the people posting on this thread, most of them having see the team play, agreeing that new signings are nice to have rather than essential for promtion, a forum from which Alpine must surely use to form his opinion, he still insists that they are essential, although he cant confirm why, unless it's because someone MIGHT get injured. Despite insisting we need new players to make sure promotion is "nailed on" He cant make up his mind if we should sign new players ready for next season now, if we buy them now if we giving them time to settle in might upset our promotion bid, however what if someone gets injured and we haven't signed anyone? According to Alps that will ruin our promotion bid as well By the way you are all talking b*llocks and he right. Have i missed anything? Yep, you are paraphrasing and twisting things AND you have ignored where I have answered some of NickGs questions. WTF you are clearly on a roll. That vinegar stroke must approaching very rapidly. Your crusade is nearly over. Death to the infidels.
alpine_saint Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 No of course there isn't, there wouldn't be, its not you, it's everyone else Nope, you really need help reading those 2 quotes it seems. Maybe you should take a deep breath first and get a dictionary out.
alpine_saint Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 Really is amusing how Turkish and NickG have appointed themselves as the Knights of the Transfer Market, Defenders of the Faith...
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 Yep, you are paraphrasing and twisting things AND you have ignored where I have answered some of NickGs questions. WTF you are clearly on a roll. That vinegar stroke must approaching very rapidly. Your crusade is nearly over. Death to the infidels. Yep, course i am, like i said, it's not you it's everyone else.
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 really is amusing how turkish and nickg have appointed themselves as the knights of the transfer market, defenders of the faith... we need to strengthen, i dont know where, with who or why, but we need to strengthen. Fact. Ffs.
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 Nope, you really need help reading those 2 quotes it seems. Maybe you should take a deep breath first and get a dictionary out. Do we need to strengthen or not? I cant decide now if you think we do or not.
Cricketphilly Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 Really is amusing how Turkish and NickG have appointed themselves as the Knights of the Transfer Market, Defenders of the Faith... Made me laugh
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 Really is amusing how Turkish and NickG have appointed themselves as the Knights of the Transfer Market, Defenders of the Faith... I haven't appointed myself anything, asked you a couple of simple questions which you failed to answer. http://www.footballforums.net/forums/forumdisplay.php/62-League-One is a good site to research good L1 one players on, run along onto there, do some research get some names and come back when you can tell us who we need to strengthen with. There are lots of people on there who can tell you what to think.
Deppo Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 If it's any consolation, I think you're all amusing, in your own daft ways.
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 The thing that worries me about Austin - and it fits into this "going to all the games doesn't help" category - is the impact he might have on dressing room chemistry. None of us knows whether he really is the arrogant c*ck he's alleged to be, but Adkins has spent too much time getting the atmosphere right to risk losing it all with one signing, no matter how good the player. I know you weren't advocating that we sign Austin in particular, but the chemistry angle is crucial when you have a big squad of quality players. Ask Mancini! You are right about that, he is meant to be a bellend, rumour has it of course. I really dont know and cant comment, although Beattie was an utter c*ck and the unity amoungst the squad was good then. I guess it depends on the management being strong enough with him to not let his ego get him ahead of himself. End of the day he is a young lad who 18 months ago was earning £500 a week laying bricks, i am sure a good man manager will be able to sort him out, all IMO of course.
Legod Third Coming Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 You are right about that, he is meant to be a bellend, rumour has it of course. I really dont know and cant comment, although Beattie was an utter c*ck and the unity amoungst the squad was good then. I guess it depends on the management being strong enough with him to not let his ego get him ahead of himself. End of the day he is a young lad who 18 months ago was earning £500 a week laying bricks, i am sure a good man manager will be able to sort him out, all IMO of course. And if he can't sort him out, at least we have someone on hand who can help with the training ground redevelopment...
CanadaSaint Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 And if he can't sort him out, at least we have someone on hand who can help with the training ground redevelopment... Yes, and it would be nice to have someone skilled at laying bricks after watching a few players skilled at sh*tting them.
NickG Posted 10 January, 2011 Author Posted 10 January, 2011 Really is amusing how Turkish and NickG have appointed themselves as the Knights of the Transfer Market, Defenders of the Faith... lost?? Is that from a role play game you play or something? I'll take it as a compliment.
St Chalet Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 This is probably the greatest least self aware post i have ever seen. On this thread alone you have constantly ignored my questions to you then you pick one part of one sentance, ignoring everything else and the questions i have put to you all through this thread and accuse me of changing the subject. We all know your well documented views on strengthening, we've heard them enough, so come on, who and where? Come up with something tangable instead of "we need to strengthen" Surely you've read enough internet posts to form an opinon on that as well. Your chubby little fingers have been angrily tapping away all day today haven't they my chunky friend, maybe if you spent less time in front of your computer and went out for a walk in those mountains the club might have in stock a replica shirt that fits you. This really isn't required. By all means debate the topic but please leave the personal comments out.
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 This really isn't required. By all means debate the topic but please leave the personal comments out. It's called banter, a bit like Alps saying he over estimated my reading ability. Something i was deeply offended by.
dune Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 Your chubby little fingers have been angrily tapping away all day today haven't they my chunky friend, maybe if you spent less time in front of your computer and went out for a walk in those mountains the club might have in stock a replica shirt that fits you.
NickG Posted 10 January, 2011 Author Posted 10 January, 2011 So... some think this is the strongest squad in the league and is good enough for promotion - although as its a sport you can't guarantee it. They also think that if Adkins can improve the squad he must, particularly ready for next season. They also think that if Guly / Ox-C / Puncheon go then the squad would have gaps. and some think this current squad is not good enough to get out of this league. some posters have become characters from a role play game, some have difficulty reading and some have chubby fingers. About it I think!
Johnny Shearer Posted 10 January, 2011 Posted 10 January, 2011 I think the squad is good enough. Pardew started last season by saying he wanted a core group of 20-22 players for the first team and I think Adkins has carried it on. Always good to add but only if they are equal to/better than what we have. 2 Goalkeepers - check. 4 CBs - check 4 FBs - check 3 - CMs - check 3 - Wingers - check 2 AMs - check 2 Strikers - check Maybe a winger/striker and thats it I feel - more than enough when compared to other L1 squads.
NickG Posted 11 January, 2011 Author Posted 11 January, 2011 Saints: Davis, Richardson, Jaidi, Fonte, Dickson, Chamberlain, Schneiderlin, Chaplow, Lallana, Guly, Lambert. Subs: Bialkowski, Harding, Butterfield, Seaborne, Gobern, Connolly, Barnard. solent reporting Hammond and Puncheon not fit pretty good squad!!
Turkish Posted 11 January, 2011 Posted 11 January, 2011 Saints: Davis, Richardson, Jaidi, Fonte, Dickson, Chamberlain, Schneiderlin, Chaplow, Lallana, Guly, Lambert. Subs: Bialkowski, Harding, Butterfield, Seaborne, Gobern, Connolly, Barnard. solent reporting Hammond and Puncheon not fit pretty good squad!! We need to strengthen.
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 11 January, 2011 Posted 11 January, 2011 I am writing this before the Oldham game but I think the main area we need to strengthen is not signing new players but making the ones we have more ruthless, especially away from home.
Turkish Posted 11 January, 2011 Posted 11 January, 2011 You all know if we lose tonight he'll be on here saying 'i told you so'
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