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...well, the fans have got what they want. The players too, it would appear.

 

They've shafted Woy and he's gone, now dour Dalglish is back in charge.

 

I can only hope they continue to stumble their way through the season, proving Hodgson was doing almost as good as anyone else could have with that p1ss poor squad of ego-centric superstars.

 

Hopefully we could all join the Kop in a minutes silence if they go down, too...

 

Liverpool fans = ungrateful, nasty, deluded fools.

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So the big merry-go-round begins.

 

Where will Woy end up? WHU or Villa?

 

Will Big Sam have to retire from punditry down here in the Sun and come back to a real job?

 

Dalgleish hasn't managed in a decade and wasn't that successful last time he tried.

 

Deserve what they get, but let's face it, signing Konchesky wasn't the brightest of starts

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So the big merry-go-round begins.

 

Where will Woy end up? WHU or Villa?

 

Will Big Sam have to retire from punditry down here in the Sun and come back to a real job?

 

Dalgleish hasn't managed in a decade and wasn't that successful last time he tried.

 

Deserve what they get, but let's face it, signing Konchesky wasn't the brightest of starts

 

It wouldnt surprise me if he ended up back at Fulham if im honest. Really cant see Hughes lasting much longer there unless they really turn it around and the fans actually appreciated Roy there.

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I actually feel sorry for the guy. He was in an impossible situation. He was hired by the previous owners so there was always a possibility that the new team would want to bring in their own man, and he had little hope of setting the world alight with the squad he inherited from Benitez.

 

Having said that, I do think it was a ridiculous decision to give him the job in the first place on the back of one good season at Fulham. He probably took it knowing that he would probably get sacked but that his contract would be paid up if that was the case.

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He was on a hiding to nothing, team massively in decline, they were poor under Benitez last season and it was always going to take a couple of season to rebuild. In my companies head office in Cheshire most are Liverpool fans and they didn't want him from the start feeling they deserve Jose Mourinho type managers. I dont know who they think is going to go there but given the state of the club and how far behind the top 5 or 6 they are now they wont be back in the top 4 for a long time, they will expect to though so the next guy will face the same challenges. Feel sorry for the guy but if its one thing managers dont get these days, especially at clubs like Liverpool when expectation is so great, is time.

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They keep saying on the radio the players will be right behind "king Kenny"

 

Maybe Gerrard and Carragher will buy into KD but why would players like Merieles,Kuyt, Babel etc. Just another manager to them surely.

 

When your back 4 is Johnson Kyriakos Skrtyl and Konchesky your on a hiding to nothing whoever your manager is.

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By appointing "king Kenny" they are just carrying on with whats been holding them back for years.

 

You allways see it, the old boys in the directors box, gazing down shaking their heads, dissaproving of what become of Liverpool.

 

So if (and imo when) KD fails to make any difference who will they call for next? Hanson, Lawrenson, Shaun Dundee?

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They keep saying on the radio the players will be right behind "king Kenny"

 

Maybe Gerrard and Carragher will buy into KD but why would players like Merieles,Kuyt, Babel etc. Just another manager to them surely.

 

When your back 4 is Johnson Kyriakos Skrtyl and Konchesky your on a hiding to nothing whoever your manager is.

 

They are going to be in for a shock, can't see his being the messiah, poor team, been out of the game for 10 years or so and not great in his last job, he did well there 20 years ago as a manager but so did Ron Atkinson at Villa, dont see their fans demanding his return.

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They are going to be in for a shock, can't see his being the messiah, poor team, been out of the game for 10 years or so and not great in his last job, he did well there 20 years ago as a manager but so did Ron Atkinson at Villa, dont see their fans demanding his return.

 

Exactly my point. It may be my extreme hatred for Liverpool that blinds me, but I really cant see this making a difference at all.

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They will get what they deserve (Liverpool fans). Dalglish was the one who let the rot set in when he managed LIverpool last time (Souness took all the blame, somewhat unfairly) and also led Blackburn on the slippery slope.

 

Hodgson was on to a loser from the start...not the big name that the arrogant Scousers believe is their right and a team in terminal decline.

 

I would love to see Liverpool suffer this season!

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As i have said before, unless they spend big money (the right way, not willy nilly like Rafa) they are knackered, their team is woefully disjointed and completely out of form.

 

As for Dagliesh, we aren't talking about the old days when a club legend would come in and lift everyone, the team is primarily foreign nowadays. I also wonder how out of touch KD is these days ?? Though he did have some sort of job at Liverpool i recall.

 

They may very well finish this season in mid table obscurity, or even worse.

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I feel no pity for Liverpool or their fans whatsoever. Did they give a damn about everyone else during the 80s when they were relentlessly pummeling every other team with less than impartial refereeing ? And Dalglish aint going to work either. He's been out of management too long.

 

We are basically watching Act II of their fall from grace unfold. Act I was the way they fell behind in the 90s.

 

Hopefully this will end up with relegation.

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very ordinary team, new owners with no experience of the PL (or British football), attendances that are average for the top half of the pL, no youth team players coming through.....even Alex O-C won't be able to turn that round!

 

Liverpool need a plan for AT least 5 years, a new stadium at cheap cost, and some patient fans,......and i guess they have none of that lined up.

 

They really ought to look at the Arse. they have a fantastic manager,stability, invest in the Eurpopes finest young players, have attendances 50 % higher than the scousers and they STILL can't win anything.

 

Strange days indeed, as one scouser put it.

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very ordinary team, new owners with no experience of the PL (or British football), attendances that are average for the top half of the pL, no youth team players coming through.....even Alex O-C won't be able to turn that round!

 

Liverpool need a plan for AT least 5 years, a new stadium at cheap cost, and some patient fans,......and i guess they have none of that lined up.

 

They really ought to look at the Arse. they have a fantastic manager,stability, invest in the Eurpopes finest young players, have attendances 50 % higher than the scousers and they STILL can't win anything.

 

Strange days indeed, as one scouser put it.

 

What you say, is 100% correct.

 

Especially for the state that the club is in, the big problem is they just cannot afford to give any manager the time to do that. football these days is born on instant success, any five year plan would be doomed before it left the ground.

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What you say, is 100% correct.

 

Especially for the state that the club is in, the big problem is they just cannot afford to give any manager the time to do that. football these days is born on instant success, any five year plan would be doomed before it left the ground.

 

Except Nicola's ;)

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Scousers on the local news this morning were saying that Woy hadn't had any experience of managing a big club. So they're forgetting the Swiss national side then and that small Italian club called Inter Milan amongst others, gotta love 'em.

 

None of which are even half the size of Liverpool.

 

Oh wait... is that not true? Them scousers are lying b*stards.

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So still losing and Rh has been sacked. I know it won't happen but really would not upset me if they got relegated.

 

Watched about the last half hour of yesterday's game and they were unrecognisable,absolutely awful,how you can have a no-hoper like Shelvey and Torres in the same side defies all explanation,plus Johnson playing on the wrong side what was that all about.I really doubt that Dalglish will last that long at Liverpool, supposed to be until the end of the season but I doubt that his dinosaur tactics will be tolerated for that long.

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Watched about the last half hour of yesterday's game and they were unrecognisable,absolutely awful,how you can have a no-hoper like Shelvey and Torres in the same side defies all explanation,plus Johnson playing on the wrong side what was that all about.I really doubt that Dalglish will last that long at Liverpool, supposed to be until the end of the season but I doubt that his dinosaur tactics will be tolerated for that long.

 

Your right...they are so desperate they are getting back Paisley and Shankley - what a shame!

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Watched about the last half hour of yesterday's game and they were unrecognisable,absolutely awful,how you can have a no-hoper like Shelvey and Torres in the same side defies all explanation,plus Johnson playing on the wrong side what was that all about.I really doubt that Dalglish will last that long at Liverpool, supposed to be until the end of the season but I doubt that his dinosaur tactics will be tolerated for that long.

 

The Liverpool fans would have gone mad if Hodgson had played Jovanovic and Poulsen in midfield and Johnson at left back but as it's 'King Kenny' it's ok!!

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Lol, nice one Steve.

 

TBH, until Dalglish works out that he is in a relegation scrap, I can see them getting worse and worse.

 

The fans all think their messiah has returned and they will be back in the CL next season. Reality is a squad of players who aren't good enough for the PL mentally and a manager "who has kept in touch with football by being a TV pundit and coaching the Youth Team"

 

Sports Science Kenny? Psychology? Nah it's all about the history of this club...

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in my time....

 

man u relegated

 

Villa / citeh/ Forest (double european cup wimmers)/ Saints all been to the third tier.

 

luton gone from top flight to conference.

 

West ham (with capacity not much less than Liverpool) yo yo'd between the top two flights.

 

Newcastle, with much bigger gates than liverpool, been trophyless nearly fo ever, and been relegated at least twice.

 

Sunderland been crap most of the time.

 

Leeds, the all conquering team of my childhood, bust and in L1

 

 

Chelsea, rubbish for 30 years before they got 100s of millions to buy a team

 

As I said above they are going to need one very good plan to get back to the top.

 

And here are some teams with great trophy winning"History".....

 

Huddersfield

Blackburn

Poopey

WBA

Bury

Wolves

Preston

Leed

 

 

Don't think we will be seeing any of them in the CL very soon.

 

Oh, and one other thing, the scrap at the bottom of the PL is going to be particularly tough this year.

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...well, the fans have got what they want. The players too, it would appear.

 

They've shafted Woy and he's gone, now dour Dalglish is back in charge.

 

I can only hope they continue to stumble their way through the season, proving Hodgson was doing almost as good as anyone else could have with that p1ss poor squad of ego-centric superstars.

 

Hopefully we could all join the Kop in a minutes silence if they go down, too...

 

Liverpool fans = ungrateful, nasty, deluded fools.

 

Sorry, but I don't buy the argument that nobody else could have done any better with the squad they've got. Yes it's not a great squad when compared to the top five, but it's definitely better than teams like Bolton, Blackpool, Stoke and Blackburn who are all above Liverpool. They still have some very good players that most PL clubs would kill for, like Reina, Gerrard, Torres etc. He also spent over £20 million in the summer, which is more than a lot of teams currently above them. The fact is a lot of those players clearly were never good enough for a team of Liverpool's stature. I'm talking mainly about Konchesky and Poulson. You might as well have kept Insua and Aquillani, who were both better options than those two.

 

The idea that Liverpool fans are 'deluded fools' for criticizing Hodgson is ridiculous. They've every right to expect better. As far as I'm aware none of them expected to be challenging for the title, but they should be in and around in Europa spots at the very least. Winning just one away game is not acceptable. He's set his teams out completely wrong many times, especially away from home (442 against Man City on a Monday night springs to mind). He's been an absolute disaster for them and fully deserved to go. He was the wrong man from the start and it was never going to work. Hodgson is a good manager, but some good managers aren't suited to certain clubs. He wasn't really that great at Inter (Thought Roberto Carlos wasn't good enough). And was terrible at Liverpool.

 

Not saying Dalglish will do any better though, but they won't go down so I guess it really doesn't matter. I'd bring in Owen Coyle or Andre Villas Boas for next season. Reckon either of them would be ideal. Bringing in Damien Comolli as director of football is a very smart move though. He did great work at Arsenal, and a large portion of the Tottenham team doing so well right now were brought in by him.

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Thought now would be a good time to bump this. I think Dalglish has proved all the Liverpool fans right who were calling for Hodgson's head. They showed against Chelsea they DO have the players. Lucas was absolutely superb. How so people don't rate him is unbelievable. Credit to King Kenny for trying something different tactically (and making it work). Proven everyone who thought he was a footballing dinosaur wrong. Hodgson was completely out of his depth at Liverpool. He's gone to West Brom which is more his level. He will keep them up.

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Thought now would be a good time to bump this. I think Dalglish has proved all the Liverpool fans right who were calling for Hodgson's head. They showed against Chelsea they DO have the players. Lucas was absolutely superb. How so people don't rate him is unbelievable. Credit to King Kenny for trying something different tactically (and making it work). Proven everyone who thought he was a footballing dinosaur wrong. Hodgson was completely out of his depth at Liverpool. He's gone to West Brom which is more his level. He will keep them up.

 

Well, I've been proven wrong, defo. Dalglish has exceeded my expectations.

 

I still believe the Liverpool players weren't playing for Woy at all, which didn't help. Kudos though... !

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Thought now would be a good time to bump this. I think Dalglish has proved all the Liverpool fans right who were calling for Hodgson's head. They showed against Chelsea they DO have the players. Lucas was absolutely superb. How so people don't rate him is unbelievable. Credit to King Kenny for trying something different tactically (and making it work). Proven everyone who thought he was a footballing dinosaur wrong. Hodgson was completely out of his depth at Liverpool. He's gone to West Brom which is more his level. He will keep them up.

 

I hate people calling him King Kenny. Joke.

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