ottery st mary Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 (edited) I was a majorette for Gray, Wigley, Sturrock, Hoddle,Redknapp, The Dutch wizz kidzz (not really, I went on strike) Burley and ESPECIALLY THAT GREAT MAN ...Sir Alan Pardew...Baton stick and pom poms for Pards...The full works.. I would like to join the Nigel Adkins little Ra Ra girlzz from this forum...but would hesitate to get dressed up in my costume just yet.. Next 3/4 league games with good points and I will bring the old pom poms back into action and join the Big Nige Double decker tour bus. PS i AM ON THE BUS REALLY........But we keep hitting the odd pot hole in the road....FRUSTRATING..But that is the life of a Saints supporter.. Edited 23 January, 2011 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Have read a few of your posts regarding NA and am confused by your comments about making great strides. Now i certainly wouldn't say great strides were made since departure of Pardew but I would say that we have now found a bit of stability. After Brentford game, i thought the performance was one of the worst I had seen in a while, after that we had an amazing run until Notts County and now Tranmere. Basically par for the course with regards to the ups and downs of being a football fan (albeit more 'ups' than 'downs' at the moment.) So what are you looking for ? What i am looking for is something different. Many on here where adamant that NA was 'something different' to what we had previous. How many on here were stating 'Tranmere...oh..thats the kind of game we will lose,typical Saints' well if that is the case we have not changed one iota. People were slating Pardew for losing that 'type' of game,yet Adkins does just that so no improvements have been made. NA has not got the -10 to use as an excuse,he will be a failure if we do not go up. The things that he has at his disposal,compared to other clubs,is astonishing. We had a great little run of 5 games,but that is a mere drop in the ocean to a club with the ambitions that we supposedly have. We will never win every game,and we will suffer defeats,but the 'meh we will lose at tranmere,it's the kind of game we always lose' attitude adopted by some on here is not acceptable.And the only person the can help change that attitude is the manager,in what he instills in his side. Do the likes of Man U,Arsenal adopt that attitude,no,because they have a belief that they can be unbeatable,i know that is an extreme of an example but this is the mentality we have to adopt now. Adkins is so bloody wishy washy it's incredible. He has undoubted talent,but i am afraid it has not been on display thus far to any extent. Until we as fans lose this stigma of us being resigned to losing at clubs such as Tranmere then the manager has failed.This will be one of the yardsticks i will judge our currant incumbant. We will never gain perfection,but we need to be making headway if we have serious designs on getting to the Premier League. We are standing still. And i will say it,Pardew made more headway with this club in the time he was here,considering what he had when he arrived,NA has it on a plate yet i don't see any vast improvements. I make no apologies for my views,i desperatly want NA to succeed,perhaps that is half the problem. Yet i will not be forced into towing the line with many on here that think he is the 'lucky to have him' option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 unreal...when nige came in, that was it, we had blown any chance of promotion, pardew was the best we could ever do and no one (apart from the waiting martin o'neil) could do any better than 5th (giving back the 10 points last season)...season over, cortese is a ****.. ffs, in a couple of months, we have gone from 22nd to 2nd and now 4th, a couple of points from 2nd with a game in hand.... and now its all gloom and doom because we dared to lose a game....seriously, this is hillarious....people say that cortese makes us a laughing stock, when in fact, the rants of so many arrogant fans are what makes us a laughing stock... if you look at other message boards round the times they play us...the only slagging that goes on is about how arrogant our fans are..not the chairman...and by the knocking of our manager for daring to lose a game and the team drop to 4th (still would go 2nd if we win our game in hand) is unreal... if we were languishing 4 points or so from the playoffs right NOW..ala sheff wed, then of course adkins would need to be looked at...but 4th, with a game in hand on 2nd...whilst smashing in the goals, playing some good bloody football is pathetic really i think man united are the only uneaten team from the 92 league teams.....says it all really No Jamie you are wrong, we should win EVERY game. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 At least he lost this one out of the building. I don't give a sh*t who manages this team of ours so long as he gets us out of this cesspit of a league, I mean S****horpe can win it and we can't????? What the Fudge is that all about? Here's a man with the best resources of any club ever in Division 3 and he can't even craft a win against a team more or less doomed to the 4th Division next year - I wonder how long he'll be smiling after Monday's meeting? Norwich lost at Prenton Park last year. They're now challenging for automatic promotion to the Premier League. Maybe losing away to Tranmere isn't the end of the f***ing world after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 sorry lard....I THINK you are wrong, tell me when at any point last season we would have been 2nd with the 10 points back.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Has anybody stopped to consider that maybe, just maybe, yesterday's defeat was actually the fault of the players and not the manager? Just a thought.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Norwich lost at Prenton Park last year. They're now challenging for automatic promotion to the Premier League. Maybe losing away to Tranmere isn't the end of the f***ing world after all norwich lost at home to saints and won the league.... just imagine the utter meltdown should we lose at home to say...sheff wed.. my christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 It's not about winning every game. Please,take a look at the bigger picture. You appear only to be able to pick and select miniscule previous events to back up you overwhelming blind faith in the man. Have we really moved on any great strides? I await the usual 'statistic' post. Which in all honesty proves nothing,when all that counts is the progression of SFC. We continue to fail when it really matters. you called? we get that you don't rate him.. Most do but each entitled to their opinion. There is no doubting that results and league position have come on a lot since he has been here, you don't need my stats for that! Our record since he arrived was better than any other team in the division (not sure if it is after weekend but guess so as next best was Brighton). We all hope for more and to be pulling away at the top - that is the nature of fans. If we don't get promoted he will have disappointed me. If we comfortable go up with games to spare he would have done very well. He could still easily do either. Games in last month: 5 wins, 1 draw, 1 defeat, goals for 19, goals against 4. If it had been LDWWWWW - we would be looking at CCC fixtures! unfortunately its WWWWWDL - so form is going wrong way hence the depressed posts come out again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 What i am looking for is something different. Many on here where adamant that NA was 'something different' to what we had previous. How many on here were stating 'Tranmere...oh..thats the kind of game we will lose,typical Saints' well if that is the case we have not changed one iota. People were slating Pardew for losing that 'type' of game,yet Adkins does just that so no improvements have been made. NA has not got the -10 to use as an excuse,he will be a failure if we do not go up. The things that he has at his disposal,compared to other clubs,is astonishing. We had a great little run of 5 games,but that is a mere drop in the ocean to a club with the ambitions that we supposedly have. We will never win every game,and we will suffer defeats,but the 'meh we will lose at tranmere,it's the kind of game we always lose' attitude adopted by some on here is not acceptable.And the only person the can help change that attitude is the manager,in what he instills in his side. Do the likes of Man U,Arsenal adopt that attitude,no,because they have a belief that they can be unbeatable,i know that is an extreme of an example but this is the mentality we have to adopt now. Adkins is so bloody wishy washy it's incredible. He has undoubted talent,but i am afraid it has not been on display thus far to any extent. Until we as fans lose this stigma of us being resigned to losing at clubs such as Tranmere then the manager has failed.This will be one of the yardsticks i will judge our currant incumbant. We will never gain perfection,but we need to be making headway if we have serious designs on getting to the Premier League. We are standing still. And i will say it,Pardew made more headway with this club in the time he was here,considering what he had when he arrived,NA has it on a plate yet i don't see any vast improvements. I make no apologies for my views,i desperatly want NA to succeed,perhaps that is half the problem.Yet i will not be forced into towing the line with many on here that think he is the 'lucky to have him' option. I am not doing an Alpine and picking parts of your argument out but be realistic it wasn't difficult. I likes Pardew and was angry when he was sacked but to take a team that had had no preseason, lost all it's be players and had just come out of admin and improve it really wasn't a big task. Swindon away last season was shocking, the worst performance i think i have ever seen by a Saints team, we were nothing short of terrible. To improve on that wasn't difficult, especially with the money he was given in both transfer windows. It doesn't take a managerial god to take a poor team and improve it when they are handed £4m at this level. This is NA's first transfer window, he has taken PArdews squad to second, higher than we ever were under him, would Pardew have done any better? Who knows. Isn't the fans attitude of excpecting to lose certain games down to the fans though and not the manager? I bet NA and the team didn't go to Tranmere expecting to lose. If anything by all accounts they were over confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Has anybody stopped to consider that maybe, just maybe, yesterday's defeat was actually the fault of the players and not the manager? Just a thought.... Of course it was the players fault, but you cannot say it was not also NA's fault. After the lack lustre display against Notts County if I was NA I would have been furious and let fly. I don't think NA did hence the non comitted display against Tranmere with players more interested in not picking up injuries before the Man Utd game. Judging by NA's reaction from the bench during the Tranmere game I would expect he'd have been furious with them and will have layed into them big time. So long as a lesson has been learnt that's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Here's a man with the best resources of any club ever in Division 3 and he can't even craft a win against a team more or less doomed to the 4th Division next year ? Is this a new rule for this year? 6 teams to go down, I didn't know that. Tranny much more likely to stay up than any of the teams below them, Swindon already in freefall and without Austin their fall will not be arrested. I think some people are a bit naive expecting to win every away game, I have some sympathy I think a draw would have been a decent result yesterday, and I have concerns that since we beat Oldham we have dried up in front of goal, but underestimating opposition is a classic mistake that many supporters and poor managers make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 I am not doing an Alpine and picking parts of your argument out but be realistic it wasn't difficult. I likes Pardew and was angry when he was sacked but to take a team that had had no preseason, lost all it's be players and had just come out of admin and improve it really wasn't a big task. Swindon away last season was shocking, the worst performance i think i have ever seen by a Saints team, we were nothing short of terrible. To improve on that wasn't difficult, especially with the money he was given in both transfer windows. It doesn't take a managerial god to take a poor team and improve it when they are handed £4m at this level. This is NA's first transfer window, he has taken PArdews squad to second, higher than we ever were under him, would Pardew have done any better? Who knows. Isn't the fans attitude of excpecting to lose certain games down to the fans though and not the manager? I bet NA and the team didn't go to Tranmere expecting to lose. If anything by all accounts they were over confident. But it is down to the manager to alter/maintain the fans mindset. And if the fans can see us going away to places and losing,as in'this is the type of game we will lose' then he is not succeeding in his remit. And no i do not see us winning every game and battering all that is put before us,but to have resigned ourselves to a possible defeat proves that we are not reaching our potential. So many on here hailed his appointment,yet the same people were saying'this is the type of game we will lose'.You can't habve it both ways. He is either doing a great job,hence we should not have the 'losing 'mindset,or we should all concur in the fact that he is not fullfilling his potential with what many would say as the best sqaud this league has seen in a considerable time. What is it to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 So many on here hailed his appointment,yet the same people were saying'this is the type of game we will lose'.You can't habve it both ways. yes you can...its called football many of the top clubs have gone there and not won........ the same was said about oldham yet we won 6-0...... we will lose again this season...there is a shock for you...that is not playing down saints, it is a fact...man U will lose this season too...the horror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 But it is down to the manager to alter/maintain the fans mindset. And if the fans can see us going away to places and losing,as in'this is the type of game we will lose' then he is not succeeding in his remit. And no i do not see us winning every game and battering all that is put before us,but to have resigned ourselves to a possible defeat proves that we are not reaching our potential. So many on here hailed his appointment,yet the same people were saying'this is the type of game we will lose'.You can't habve it both ways. He is either doing a great job,hence we should not have the 'losing 'mindset,or we should all concur in the fact that he is not fullfilling his potential with what many would say as the best sqaud this league has seen in a considerable time. What is it to be? He has got more points since he has been here than any other team in the league, with possibly exception of Brighton but i cant be arsed to check, this indicates he is doing a good job. In all compeitions P22 W14 D3 L5; 37 points out of a possible 57, average of 1.94 a game, over a season 90 points, enough for promotion in any of the last 6 seasons, what more do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 yes you can...its called football many of the top clubs have gone there and not won........ the same was said about oldham yet we won 6-0...... we will lose again this season...there is a shock for you...that is not playing down saints, it is a fact...man U will lose this season too...the horror Did you think 'this is the kind of game we would lose'? If you answered yes you then you prove my point. If you answered no,then you are lying. We will lose again,but i would like that defeat to come as a surprise,not as another notice of resignation that we can't beat certain sides. Would you like to have that air of arrogance that we can go anywhere and play anyone and get a result,i would. Ask the supporters of the top flight clubs,that invariably win week in week out,without the concern of who they are up against,on a warm saturday afternoon or a wet and windy Tuseday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Ask the supporters of the top flight clubs,that invariably win week in week out,without the concern of who they are up against,on a warm saturday afternoon or a wet and windy Tuseday night. but we are division 3 mate......**** happens and we are 4th with a game in hand on 2nd..... we are dooooooomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 He has got more points since he has been here than any other team in the league, with possibly exception of Brighton but i cant be arsed to check, this indicates he is doing a good job. In all compeitions P22 W14 D3 L5; 37 points out of a possible 57, average of 1.94 a game, over a season 90 points, enough for promotion in any of the last 6 seasons, what more do you want? Throwing stats around but skirts the issue and does not answer the question shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Throwing stats around but skirts the issue and does not answer the question shocker. it does answer the question of being good enough for us.....simple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 (edited) Did you think 'this is the kind of game we would lose'? If you answered yes you then you prove my point. If you answered no,then you are lying.We will lose again,but i would like that defeat to come as a surprise,not as another notice of resignation that we can't beat certain sides. Would you like to have that air of arrogance that we can go anywhere and play anyone and get a result,i would. Ask the supporters of the top flight clubs,that invariably win week in week out,without the concern of who they are up against,on a warm saturday afternoon or a wet and windy Tuseday night. What a wierd thing to say, if someone thought'd we'd win and didn't fit your agenda then they are lying. I thought we'd win, in fact i had money on us winning in an accumulator, but we didn't, it happens. Edited 23 January, 2011 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Throwing stats around but skirts the issue and does not answer the question shocker. Read it again, i did answer your question. the FACTs PROVE, he is doing a good job, hence my comment "this indicates he is doing a good job". So now you answer the question, his record so far is enough for promtion in each of the last 6 seasons, what more do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 but we are division 3 mate......**** happens and we are 4th with a game in hand on 2nd..... we are dooooooomed You make a statment but do not addresss the question,your 'meh,**** happens' kinda sums it up. Happy to hail the manager,but in no way would you concede he has faults. I'm glad i managed to rise above that and eat humble pie when i conceded i thought he was not as bad as i originally thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 You make a statment but do not addresss the question,your 'meh,**** happens' kinda sums it up. Happy to hail the manager,but in no way would you concede he has faults. I'm glad i managed to rise above that and eat humble pie when i conceded i thought he was not as bad as i originally thought. as turkish says..the form adkins has shown since he has been here would be good enough for auto promotion for the last 6 seasons.. what more do you want..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 as turkish says..the form adkins has shown since he has been here would be good enough for auto promotion for the last 6 seasons.. what more do you want..? I agree DD. However, I would finally like us to be CONSISTENT. We're playing like we did under Pardew. World beaters one week, Egg beaters the next...!!! I am convinced personally, it is down to Lallana missing and what he brings to the team in belief, talent, attitude and the way he scares the opposition into errors!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 as turkish says..the form adkins has shown since he has been here would be good enough for auto promotion for the last 6 seasons.. what more do you want..? For us to be sitting in one of the automatic promotion places,right now. And we should be.No excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 For us to be sitting in one of the automatic promotion places,right now. And we should be.No excuses. So should Sheffield Wednesday and Huddersfield tbf, with their squads and budget. Football isn't as cut and dry as people make out. I was nervous from the moment we were made massive favourites to walk this league. Even the biggest clubs have struggled to get out of this league (Forest/Leeds/Wednesday) for e.g. . We will be ok in the end, but it's not going to be the walk in the park that alot of people seem to expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 For us to be sitting in one of the automatic promotion places,right now. And we should be.No excuses. and if we win our game in hand we will be. SO what else do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 and if we win our game in hand we will be. SO what else do you want? I would much rather have the points on the board than rely on winning a game in hand to achieve our aims. But if that is your ambitions for the season,so be it. Sums up my point perfectly.Adkins is not as faultless as many percieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 I would much rather have the points on the board than rely on winning a game in hand to achieve our aims. But if that is your ambitions for the season,so be it. Isn't relying on winning games what promotion is all about? Maybe i am being thick but to get promotion you have to do this, you have to win games? Although no doubt if we had played one more game than Huddersfield and Bournemouth and were two points above them you'd be moaning that we are only second because we'd played more games. So come on, we are on course for auto promotion in terms of points gained under NA, we can be where you want us to be all things being equal provided we achieve a basic requirement of promotion and win a game of football. What else do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 (edited) Did you think 'this is the kind of game we would lose'? If you answered yes you then you prove my point. If you answered no,then you are lying. We will lose again,but i would like that defeat to come as a surprise,not as another notice of resignation that we can't beat certain sides. Would you like to have that air of arrogance that we can go anywhere and play anyone and get a result,i would. Ask the supporters of the top flight clubs,that invariably win week in week out,without the concern of who they are up against,on a warm saturday afternoon or a wet and windy Tuseday night. Ummm, I thought we were going to win. I'm not lying either. I had that feeling 'this is the sort of game we'll lose' when we went to Oldham. We won 6-0. Therefore the Tranmere game I thought we'd win. By your standards of a good manager (turning our fanbase mentality around) he has done his job? Edited 23 January, 2011 by Golden Balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 I would much rather have the points on the board than rely on winning a game in hand to achieve our aims. But if that is your ambitions for the season,so be it. Sums up my point perfectly.Adkins is not as faultless as many percieve. So you want a faultless manager. So who's that then? Being realistic that we are in div 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Ummm, I thought we were going to win. I'm not lying either. I had that feeling 'this is the sort of game we'll lose' when we went to Oldham. We won 6-0. Therefore the Tranmere game I thought we'd win. By your stadards of a good manager (turning our fanbase mentality around) he has done his job? I think what he means is he hasn't turned around HIS mentality. I was sure we would win yesterday and yes it was a shock, no i am not lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 He's not Mourinhio (spelling??) But he is pretty good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 I think what he means is he hasn't turned around HIS mentality. Oh right, make sense. Was that not written into NA contract when he came here? "You must change the mentality of Saint Lard to be considered a success" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Oh right, make sense. Was that not written into NA contract when he came here? "You must change the mentality of Saint Lard to be considered a success" F*cking Cortese, not got a clue what he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Oh right, make sense. Was that not written into NA contract when he came here? "You must change the mentality of Saint Lard to be considered a success" It was in the small print,along with "if you don't gain promotion you have failed,close the door on the way out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 It was in the small print,along with "if you don't gain promotion you have failed,close the door on the way out" Agreed, if he doesn't win promotion then he's failed. But it's January. Like I said, we can't win the league in January. We are 2 points off 2nd with a game in hand. I think we have quite a realistic chance of promotion. We've stuttered a tad, but pretty much every team does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 I notice only a couple of people have rushed to his defence,considering how many are 'online' now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 I notice only a couple of people have rushed to his defence,considering how many are 'online' now. So? I notice no one has rushed to back up your point, considering how many people are 'online' now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 So? I notice no one has rushed to back up your point, considering how many people are 'online' now. So you agree,i have a point. I think most are on the post match thread actually,berating the performance yesterday,who would that be down to aswell as the playing squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 So you agree,i have a point. I think most are on the post match thread actually,berating the performance yesterday,who would that be down to aswell as the playing squad? I don't see how that means I agree, but I think it's obvious I don't agree. Shall we look at the previous 6-7 match threads before the Tranmere game? We lost one game. I'm not happy about it. We were rubbish. That doesn't mean I think Adkins is useless and doomed to fail. We can't win them all (even if we should), welcome to football - get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 lardy, There doesn't need to be people rushing to his defence - most are happy with him. you called? we get that you don't rate him.. Most do but each entitled to their opinion. There is no doubting that results and league position have come on a lot since he has been here, you don't need my stats for that! Our record since he arrived was better than any other team in the division (not sure if it is after weekend but guess so as next best was Brighton). We all hope for more and to be pulling away at the top - that is the nature of fans. If we don't get promoted he will have disappointed me. If we comfortable go up with games to spare he would have done very well. He could still easily do either. Games in last month: 5 wins, 1 draw, 1 defeat, goals for 19, goals against 4. If it had been LDWWWWW - we would be looking at CCC fixtures! unfortunately its WWWWWDL - so form is going wrong way hence the depressed posts come out again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 ffs, all teams lose games.....how many times did we beat man u at the dell....how many times did we beat liverpool..? brighton failed to win at tranmere.....have brighton fans turned on poyet...? before you say it, hasnt adkins gained more (or equal) points to poyet since being saints manager..? we smashed huddersfield 4-1....are udders fans losing faith with clarke whilst sat 3rd in the league.. do people really believe we are going to go all season unbeaten..? no wonder the rest of the league take the pish out of us for being so bloody arrogant Funny though last years disaster of a season (the one we did so poorly at) we lost 11 games all season this season we've lost 10 already (most likely 11 by the end of next Saturday). Spouting the same old line all teams lose matches is fine but teams that want to get promoted or win trophies try not to lose very many matches. We are losing to many for my liking, however than can't all be laid at Nigels door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 F*cking Cortese, not got a clue what he is doing. I'm still f*cked off that he was spending more time sorting out Lallana's contract than Matty's tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Given our top-flight history, you would've thought Saints fans, of all people, would understand that sometimes smaller, less resourced teams are capable of upsetting the odds and making things uncomfortable for the bigger boys. Some of the stuff on here is so cretinous it beggars belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Given our top-flight history, you would've thought Saints fans, of all people, would understand that sometimes smaller, less resourced teams are capable of upsetting the odds and making things uncomfortable for the bigger boys. Some of the stuff on here is so cretinous it beggars belief. Great I look forward to us hammering Man U 6-0 next Saturday then........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 I agree DD. However, I would finally like us to be CONSISTENT. We're playing like we did under Pardew. World beaters one week, Egg beaters the next...!!! I am convinced personally, it is down to Lallana missing and what he brings to the team in belief, talent, attitude and the way he scares the opposition into errors!! I don't mean to appear overly picky, but weren't we world beaters for 5 weeks, and then egg beaters for two (if you count a draw against the league's other form team as 'egg beater' standard that is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Great I look forward to us hammering Man U 6-0 next Saturday then........ What? Doubt it. We're two divisions below them. There's no way we'll hammer them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surrey Saint Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Relax. Don't panic. We'll be promoted. This year. Believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 Agree and relaxing again......Please our Nigel WIFM and us poor old suffering Saints fans... And more relaxing and praying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 January, 2011 Share Posted 23 January, 2011 IMO the boat is still out with Adkins. I think that if Pardew had stayed we would be in a better position now and I also think that with the players we have most managers would have been able to do roughly what Adkins has done so far. It all boils down to if we win promotion or not. If we don't then it has been a big failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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