simo Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 So do we go for broke and play our strongest team or rotate and rest people ?
Colinjb Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Give the fringe players a chance and rest the main few. The league is too important to risk on cup runs this year.
Saint Garrett Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Keep the momentum...maybe just rest Chambo, but I think we should go with strongest possible team.
SaintDonkey Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 So if it were a fringe 11 who would it be? Bart certainly but across the back four there's only really Aaron Martin who's not in regular rotation at the moment. In midfield there's Gobern drifting around the fringes of the first team and possibly Harlee Dean with one bench warming to his name. Up front Connolly and Doble?
Joesaint Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 I would rest some of the team as league is important and use the game to help players like Barny to improve there sharpness, after not playing from the start. I would play Golbern and would resh OC. I would def play Bart in goal.
Colinjb Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 So if it were a fringe 11 who would it be? Bart certainly but across the back four there's only really Aaron Martin who's not in regular rotation at the moment. In midfield there's Gobern drifting around the fringes of the first team and possibly Harlee Dean with one bench warming to his name. Up front Connolly and Doble? Posted on the other thread, made up of players who have not been starting consistently recently (if not out of the frame completely), with one obvious exception. ----------------- Barnard ------------ Connolly ------------------ Lallana ---------- Gobern ----------- Schneiderlin ----------- Dean Dickson ---------- Martin ------------ Seaborne -------- Butterfield -------------------------- Bialkowski ----------------------------- Struggled to think of someone who could play in Adam's place. Doble would be a good shout to come on as sub.
Redbul Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Go for it. It's a win/win game, even if we lose (that does make sense, give it a moment). If we put out a team of fringe players and we get spanked morale goes out the window. We've got some momentum at the moment so let's keep rolling with it.
Lighthouse Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 I say play a strong team and go all out for the win. 'Pool have just lost at home to Brum, through a last minute goal. That will have been hugely demoralising and have them looking tentatively over their shoulder (5 points above the drop zone as it stands). It could get worse for them before Saturday with Everton, Wigan, West Ham, Villa and Blackburn all in action tonight. I'd swap a few players personally, but I'd expect Adkins to go with a pretty much full strength side. MY pick: Bart FR Fonte Martin Harding Lallana Chaplow Morgan Dickson Lambert Barnard
SaintNeil90 Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 (edited) F**k me they are professional footballers, we don't need to rest anyone. Davis Richardson Fonte Seaborne Dickson AOC Chaplow Sneiderlein Lallana Lambert Barnard Edited 5 January, 2011 by SaintNeil90 team added
Colinjb Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 F**k me they are professional footballers, we don't need to rest anyone. Rest is not the issue. Avoiding risk of injury is.
dubai_phil Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Rest is not the issue. Avoiding risk of injury is. As is avoiding the risk of unecessary Yellow or even worse Red Cards
Colinjb Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 As is avoiding the risk of unecessary Yellow or even worse Red Cards Exactly.
Lighthouse Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 F**k me they are professional footballers, we don't need to rest anyone. Davis Richardson Fonte Seaborne Dickson AOC Chaplow Sneiderlein Lallana Lambert Barnard I would have to disagree with you there. AOC has been bent over with cramp in a few of the games I've seen him in recently.
trousers Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 We need to lose this one. Otherwise our home League game against Charlton on 29th January will be deferred until later in the season....
SaintDonkey Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 I would have to disagree with you there. AOC has been bent over with cramp in a few of the games I've seen him in recently. Have to agree - Oxo-Chambo is the one player I definitely would rest
keithd Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 If we'd had the usual mad christmas period as well as the usual games in december i'd be tempted to rest a few, but as so many were postponed i'd go full strength where possible but take no risks on anybody not 100%
badgerx16 Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 It should be an open game; assuming Ollie sticks with 4-3-3 there will be headaches for our back four and opportunities for our attackers. Kingson can be quite static in goal, and as long as we can find a way of controlling Charlie Adam, if he plays, I think we have a very good chance.
Saints67 Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Speaking to a Blackpool fan who says "Anyway I think your lot will win as we all think we'll be putting a 2nd team out as we have so many cancelled league games to play"
JRM Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 I watched the highlights on sky last night of their game v Birmingham, was an excellent match both team really going for it, Blackpool players sank to their knees at the end having lost to a last minute goal after giving it so much effort. Jason Euell came on and is a threat physically, but no pace, will be strange seeing Ormerod again will bring back a few memories. We might as well go for it, play a strong team, and as fans stop bloody panicing about what might happen and enjoy what should be a cracking cup tie. I noticed someone posted yesterday lunchtime that over 15k tickets had been sold, hopefully that gets over 20k and Blackpool bring a few down should make it a decent atmosphere.
K,Billy's supersound Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 i really wouldnt play the strongest possible team so my team with the more important league game away to oldham on tuesday in mind would be. davis frazer fonte seabounre dickson hammond chaplow puncheon if still here on the right gobern on the left lambert guly subs, bart, butters,jaidi,morgan,lallana,barnard,doble in defence we are very stong so can afford to make minimal changes if any atall so only the one for me, i dont really like upsetting the defence to much. but in midfeild though we are abit light. with only 6 players i would ever want to begin a game fighting for 4 spots imo we really need to bring in new bodys to improve options and competition. if we suffer injuires and more likley suspensions to 2 or more then we will be struggling and would have to turn to lesser tried players like gobern. same with strikers cant really change them much as options for me arn't there so its two from barnard, lambert and guly. really need 1 more. if our season were to fail because of a lack of goals scored from now untill may then it would be a travesty.
Chez Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Have to agree - Oxo-Chambo is the one player I definitely would rest Unfortunately he is the one player we don't have cover for in the squad unless we perhaps cup tie Puncheon. Gobern and Guly are not suited to play out there.
Colinjb Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Unfortunately he is the one player we don't have cover for in the squad unless we perhaps cup tie Puncheon. Gobern and Guly are not suited to play out there. Harlee Dean, your time has come.
The Cat Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 I agree, play a strong side. This is a winnable game against a better team than us which could lead to a plum 4th round tie. We may even get Pompey away. Hopefully it will be an exciting game as I'm taking my 5 year old son to his first match and I don't want him to witness a dull 0-0 that will put him off for life!
trousers Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 (edited) I agree, play a strong side. This is a winnable game against a better team than us which could lead to a plum 4th round tie. We may even get Pompey away. Please no.....not this season......if there's anything that could derail our quest for automatic promotion it's the cut and thrust of a clash against our local rivals....the hype would be a huge distraction for the players..... IMHO of course (that said, if we were to beat them and come out injury free it could turn out to be a catalyst.....now, how do I get down from this fence....?) Edited 5 January, 2011 by trousers
doddisalegend Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 I see the rumours on 606 are that Blackpool are about to buy BWP for 500k from Plymouth, we could end up facing Euell,BWP and Brett next week which would be a bit wierd (even more so as they would be PL players:scared:)
keithd Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 I see the rumours on 606 are that Blackpool are about to buy BWP for 500k from Plymouth, we could end up facing Euell,BWP and Brett next week which would be a bit wierd (even more so as they would be PL players:scared:) BWP would be cup tied. but im being pedantic! Actually no im not, im being acurate
saintjay77 Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Should be a good game as both them and us do better at attacking than defending. Next round is not important but would be a bonus if we got there so it's a no pressure game for us IMO. Blackpool will be expected to beat us and won't be happy to lose to a league 1 club.
trousers Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Blackpool will be expected to beat us and won't be happy to lose to a league 1 club. True....although, arguably, losing to a 'big name' (aka relatively recent ex-prem side) in League One, such as Saints, Sheff Wed or Charlton, is psychologically less embarrassing than losing to a 'minnow' League One team, such as Bournemouth, Brighton or Dagenham ..... ;-)
Dig Dig Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 As good as they have been in the prem, thay are only two bad results away from the relegation zone....can see them playing a very weakened team but with Holloway at the helm, who the **** knows!
Um Bongo Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 I watched the highlights on sky last night of their game v Birmingham, was an excellent match both team really going for it, Blackpool players sank to their knees at the end having lost to a last minute goal after giving it so much effort. Jason Euell came on and is a threat physically, but no pace, will be strange seeing Ormerod again will bring back a few memories. We might as well go for it, play a strong team, and as fans stop bloody panicing about what might happen and enjoy what should be a cracking cup tie. I noticed someone posted yesterday lunchtime that over 15k tickets had been sold, hopefully that gets over 20k and Blackpool bring a few down should make it a decent atmosphere. Think we've sold more then that, I've just bought two and best I could get was Row A. Northam sold out, Kingsland North sold out, Itchen pretty full.
doddisalegend Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 BWP would be cup tied. but im being pedantic! Actually no im not, im being acurate Good point. I still find it amazing that he has scored 13 goals in 17 league matches or that he could end up in the PL though.
trousers Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Think we've sold more then that, I've just bought two and best I could get was Row A. Northam sold out, Kingsland North sold out, Itchen pretty full. It was Saints official Twitter that stated yesterday that just over 15k had been sold. I think someone then posted that one or more of the corners were closed for the game which seems more likely to be the reason for other areas selling out. Not sure though.
doddisalegend Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 As good as they have been in the prem, thay are only two bad results away from the relegation zone....can see them playing a very weakened team but with Holloway at the helm, who the **** knows! Holloway has already said staying in the PL is the most important thing this season. I would expect to see as many reserve players as he can get away with at SMS.
Um Bongo Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 It was Saints official Twitter that stated yesterday that just over 15k had been sold. I think someone then posted that one or more of the corners were closed for the game which seems more likely to be the reason for other areas selling out. Not sure though. Ah that might be why then!
Colinjb Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 It was Saints official Twitter that stated yesterday that just over 15k had been sold. I think someone then posted that one or more of the corners were closed for the game which seems more likely to be the reason for other areas selling out. Yeah, the corners are closed. Even the family enclosure. I couldn't get my usual season ticket location in there.
trousers Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Holloway does of course have recent history for making wholesale changes to his 'default' starting 11: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/nov/11/premier-league-investigate-blackpool-ian-holloway They nearly held Aston Villa to a draw that time around.
Super_Uwe Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Hope the Northam sings "You've got Brett Ormerod" to the Blackpool fans...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Hope the Northam sings "You've got Brett Ormerod" to the Blackpool fans... Surely time to sing the Posh Spice song again?
Saint 76er Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Hard for us to play our "reserves", as what passes for our reserve side don't really seem to play matches any more. Suppose those players train, but only our regular first team rotation actually see any match action these days. Would be a big ask for anybody outside that group to step in and play a one off game and against premiership opposition too ...
dubai_phil Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Ah great, FA Cup game so Solent can broadcast commentary online via BBC IPlayer. Which of course doesn't work if you are outside the UK unless you have all ssorts of dodgy proxy busting VPN hiding software that then fecks up your bandwidth anyway ho hum Hopefully will find a link to a Blackpool tater or two
Thedelldays Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 I want us to win..of course. but I hope we lose a draw would be a nightmare and I could not care less at all about the FA Cup..I just want saints to finish top 2..and playing extra games does nothing to assist that
saintjay77 Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Ah great, FA Cup game so Solent can broadcast commentary online via BBC IPlayer. Which of course doesn't work if you are outside the UK unless you have all ssorts of dodgy proxy busting VPN hiding software that then fecks up your bandwidth anyway ho hum Hopefully will find a link to a Blackpool tater or two I couldnt listen to the last FA Cup game on the bbc online thingy so im not very hopeful of this one being online either.
Legod Third Coming Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Genuine question. Did the JPT really cost us any league games last season?
saintjay77 Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Hard for us to play our "reserves", as what passes for our reserve side don't really seem to play matches any more. Suppose those players train, but only our regular first team rotation actually see any match action these days. Would be a big ask for anybody outside that group to step in and play a one off game and against premiership opposition too ... We have no reserves side. Just a 1st team squad and under 21's that include 1st team squad members if they need match practice at any time. They play against any team that want a match by all accounts and do fairly well all things considered. I doubt many of them will get a run out against Blackpool considering they didnt get a run out in the last round either I think.
notnowcato Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Should be a decent game, both sides with nothing to lose in this as priorities lie elsewhere. Give Bart a game. Rest AOC, Adam and Barney. Stick with Ricky as he's finally found his scoring boots.
Smirking_Saint Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 F*ck it, play Punch and rest AOC, it is not us that needs to sell is it ?? I would rotate a few players, give Bart a run out and perhaps Martin. I reckon that Ormarod will start.
trousers Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Genuine question. Did the JPT really cost us any league games last season? We'll never know
Lighthouse Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 (edited) Genuine question. Did the JPT really cost us any league games last season? No, a 10 point deduction did. Without it we'd have been second in all likelyhood, haven't pretty much build a new squad from scratch. By far our worst run of results last season came in August and September, before the JPT had even started. Last time we got to the FA Cup final we finished 8th in the Premier League. Says it all IMO. Edit: Here's the League 1 table SINCE the first round of the JPT last season (2-2 draw with Torquay) Norwich - 79 Saints - 71 (Bearing in mind we played a weakend squad for the penultimate fixture, knowing we were already out of it, should really be 74) Millwall - 71 Swindon - 64 Charlton - 60 Leeds - 59 Edited 5 January, 2011 by Lighthouse
trousers Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Last time we got to the FA Cup final we finished 8th in the Premier League. Says it all IMO. We need to aim higher than 8th this season....says it all really.... ;-) (yes, I know...I know.....we were a smaller fish in a bigger pond back in them days, so I'm not comparing apples with apples, but....) :-)
JustinR Posted 5 January, 2011 Posted 5 January, 2011 Good luck with your sons first match! I picked Saints V Pompey last year for MY 5 year old- big mistake.. Apart from the scoreline, he was petrified, even in the family enclosure
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