Dalek2003 Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 I think connolly may have had his day, and it may be worth, if we can get a new young exciting striker in, allowing him to move on to play football, or hang around and do some coaching ? ON his day our best striker, but spends too much time in the treatment room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 ON his day our best striker, but spends too much time in the treatment room. His day has passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 If you're just guessing then why the secrecy? ^This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsforlife7 Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Jaidi was absolutely awesome today but I would like a younger replacement for him to switch between. Seabourne doesn't do it for me, not impressed at all. Woolford would make sense and looks good for NPC as well as L1 but I'm not sure on Austin, think he'll get a move up a league, Le Fondre is a good shout, but would he cut it at Championship level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 have to say....charlie austin looks mustard on the telly box I would love it if it was him, he is a top class striker at this level, but we do hve a few of them. Do you think Barney, Guly, Lambert and Austin could cut it in the Championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Saint 2 Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Admittedly, Jaidi seems to have had a few good games, but I just don't think he's good enough, and Seabourne doesn't convince me. I liked the look of Martin at the start of the season, but if he can't get in the team (atleast given another chance) in front of these two, then I'm not sure Adkins rates him, and I trust Adkins. We won't have any idea who we're going to sign though, as it will probably be someone we've not even given a thought! Agree with this, if we're planning for the Championship then either now or in the summer we will need a new partner for Fonte as Seabourne, Jaidi & Martin won't cut it at a higher level (Martin might at some point but definitely not our 1st season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 People wonder why Alpine doesn't post on here much after victories - it's probably because he knows full well that threads are going to be full of smug insults aimed at him. Perhaps if people didn't attack him so vehemently, he wouldn't get so defensive and be more open to changing his opinions. No need for it, so please stop. Win or Lose he posts the same old Wrist Slashing S@ite,I have really enjoyed watching the free flowing entertaining football we have been playing since the new manager arrived and think he and the Squad deserve all the plaudits,when Burley was at the Club Alpine was right to question our Quality but he is wide of the mark in his current criticisms,if this is how this board is now being "Moderated" then it is a sad day for free speech,I should be allowed to let this Manic depressive know that he could help his condition by actually attending a Match so he can fully appreciate that this current Squad is more than capable of winning this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 we need to add a striker with pace to give us variety. Tyson for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Le Fondre is a good shout, but would he cut it at Championship level? Not proven at L1 level, let alone Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 ON his day our best striker, but spends too much time in the treatment room. If only we had Hoddle to get him fit with his heebie jeebie magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 How nice is it to have these problems eh? We've got a bit of money, stability and we're playing good attacking football. Times are very good right now, and it's all thanks this man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 I would be inclined to see if Reading will loan out Antonio for the rest of the season. He gets the odd 15-20 mins here and there for them but thats it. If he came here he would be the natural alternative to Chamberlain when the young man needs a rest etc. He would also play more here than he obviously is going to at Reading and therefore it would help his development. They would be happy, we would be happy and there would be no major fee involved getting in a player who we know can do a job at this level and maybe help push us over the finishing line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 People talking about Antonio and Stock... I don't think they're likely at all. They were Pardews targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 People talking about Antonio and Stock... I don't think they're likely at all. They were Pardews targets. Wasn't Chaplow one of Burley's targets originally? It's unlikely I know, but I'd absolutely love it if we could get him back. It's certainly plausible, with us in 2nd, we could be in the same league as Reading in 6 months time. Must be an option he's considered, especially if he isn't a regular for the Royals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 we need to add a striker with pace to give us variety. Tyson for example. Got to be a realistic chance, especially if Forest sign Best, as rumoured, as Tyson is struggling a bit this season. He would give us something different to what our other strikers offer and could also give us a different option on the left, although I think he would be a squad player rather than first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Woolford would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Agree with this, if we're planning for the Championship then either now or in the summer we will need a new partner for Fonte as Seabourne, Jaidi & Martin won't cut it at a higher level (Martin might at some point but definitely not our 1st season). Indeed. If the opposition build up the play slowly and then lump it long, Jaidi is fine. If they counter-attack quickly and shift the ball quickly (the first 10 mins vs Huddersfield is a good example), then he is completely useless. He'll be fine for most games in this league, but I agree, we need a regular quality partner for Fonte. Central defence is a place where you need to build a consistent partnership, not a rotation policy because someone can't do 2 games a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1343759/Southampton-starlet-Adam-Lallana-offered-bumper-new-deal-Premier-League-clubs-bay.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Daily Fail I know but still significant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1343759/Southampton-starlet-Adam-Lallana-offered-bumper-new-deal-Premier-League-clubs-bay.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Daily Fail I know but still significant... The Adkins comments seem to be realistic to be fair to the mail. I think they have just cut off the but where he mentions coming into the building and having an honest set of lads all working as a group to win games of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 A striker to replace Connolly, someone with genuine pace. Ideally someone big and strong in the Kenwnye mould who can lead the line. Doubt there are many players like that knocking around in League one though. A winger to replace Holmes. Someone young who won't mind being fourth choice. A winger/attacking central midfielder to replace Puncheon. Ryan Harley seems to be doing very well for Exeter. And if we're serious about building a team to win the Championship I think we should be looking at a centre back to replace Jaidi. No one really springs to mind but we need another massive ball winning type player. ****tu would be a good shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 People talking about Antonio and Stock... I don't think they're likely at all. They were Pardews targets. However, considering the many hours of arguments and debates on here about the structure of the club, the Manager's role, and the whole backroom staff/Les Reed stuff, perhaps it may be fair to say that the same crew helped to bring in (and recommend) Chaplow, may also still feel Antonio (and possibly Stock) would fit the bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 However, considering the many hours of arguments and debates on here about the structure of the club, the Manager's role, and the whole backroom staff/Les Reed stuff, perhaps it may be fair to say that the same crew helped to bring in (and recommend) Chaplow, may also still feel Antonio (and possibly Stock) would fit the bill? I disagree, we should be after players who play CCC football, are young, and could step up to the PL, Antonio, whilst a good impact sub when with us, is hardly setting the world on fire at Reading. Many of the others mentioned, are they potential PL players? Some on here mention players as 'squad' players, we have been down that route all ready, and it took us a few years to offload them 'Pullis anyone'. We need players, better than we have at present, or stick with what we have, pointless spending money we don't need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Antonio would give us that extra pace that we need against some of these teams. He is young and will only improve. I watched the Johnsons Paint Final Video over Christmas and he was superb in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 i think Antonio staying at Reading and his season so far is a typical example of players/agnts/clubs getting someones development slightly wrong. Had he of come back to Saints in the summer he would have been (more than likely) first choice on the right at the start of the season. And if he had continued in the vein he finished last season would have played alot and potentially had a big impact. Playing 20 minutes every other game for Reading wont have done a great deal for his confidence. Having said that, would his presence here have hampered Chamberlains development?!! I think it may merely have slowed it and controlled the hype a little more. I think getting someone like Antonio in now (preferably on a permanent deal) will help Chamberlain because there is a danger that if he plays the vast majority of the rest of the season he could easily clock up 30-35 games which is huge for a 16/17 year old...however special he is!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint.tom.clancy Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 I cant see stock coming now, have heard he's been offered a bumper new deal up there, which we could easily match, however considering he has picked up yet another knock i just cant see us risking a big cntract for a player who seems to get niggling injuries a lot. Having said that, he is only 28 and could definitely do a job for us, him and chaplow/schneiderlin in the middle would be very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 I disagree, we should be after players who play CCC football, are young, and could step up to the PL, Antonio, whilst a good impact sub when with us, is hardly setting the world on fire at Reading. Many of the others mentioned, are they potential PL players? Some on here mention players as 'squad' players, we have been down that route all ready, and it took us a few years to offload them 'Pullis anyone'. We need players, better than we have at present, or stick with what we have, pointless spending money we don't need to. Just for the record, I wasn't advocating getting either Stock or Antonio in. I was responding to a point about Antonio having been an AP target. HTH I think we should now be looking for better, and also for a replacement for AoC when everntually he makes the step up to the PL with or without us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Adkins has said he ideally wants players experienced at a higher level.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Exciting times ahead it seems and this after the first Xmas campaign for a long time where we've claimed 9 points. Moreover, those performances Vs Hudds and Exeter were two of the most stylish I've watched at SMS since 2002/3, they were that good. I saw people on here saying Exeter were poor but that's not true, they were well in it for an hour and played good football but Saints just blew them away with one touch quality and movement. Chaplow's fourth V Hudds is one of the best team goals scored at SMS for quite some time. In terms of signings, pace is key as Guly has been a key outlet in getting behind teams in the last 3 games and it has really made a difference to Lambert's game as well. If Guly or Ox-C get injured or tired we will go backwards. Chaplow's return to fitness has also been a key factor in the rise to 2nd. I haven't seen Woolford or Baldock play but they are well regarded. Myles Weston at Brentford fits the wide pace bill as well. How lively is Pugh at Bournemouth - is he an out and out express winger in the Ox-C mould or he is more of a cultured player that can play wide but also drift in behind the front two like Lallana/Ryan Harley do? In terms of CB, I think Seaborne was always a long-term buy. He's still a bit raw at the moment but decent-left sided CBs with pace don't grown on trees hence there were a lot of clubs after him, not just us. He's one of those players you aren't sure about at first but will suddenly blossom (Jeff Kenna was one of those). Can't see us replacing Kelvin before the summer and perhaps not even then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 if we add - great, and sounds like they are trying, however - our form since Adkins has been here, and the fact that our forwards on our bench are better than everything Brighton can offer, shows we don't need, to strengthen - but yes please! Also dependson whether anyone leaves Blimey! Two weeks ago people were complaining about lack of strength in depth when Chappers was out, even NA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Pilkington for Udersfield is the best wide man I have seen play against us this season, and he is that rarest of breeds, genuinely two footed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Hmmm, what's Greg Halford up to!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Hmmm, what's Greg Halford up to!!? Nothing much for the next few weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 Alpine if you had witnessed the last Three performances, especially the Demolition of Huddersfield,you would not be so Pessimistic. There are still well over 20 games to go. I am sure some of our players have yellows dangling over their heads. Our first XI may well be able to beat anyone in this league (remains to be seen if that applies to away too, esp. Brighton), but to say that everyone will reman available is really unrealistic. Strengthening is a must, not only for promotion, but also so we hit the ground running next season (sorry if its a tired cliche from me that I repeat every turning point of every season, but we spectacularly f**k up our preparation every summer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 We should have had cover for RL last February. LB & Guly are very good players for us, but they do not have the attributes, especially up until Xmas that RL had with his physical presence in the air. When RL was off colour we struggled, we had threads about him being dropped, but the reality was that we had no like for like cover for him. Bringing in another LB type player is not what we need, we need a decent up and coming youngster who can come off the bench or make a few starts this season. We also need cover in the wide positions. If we were to lose AL for 2 or 3 games we would lose a lot of our creativity, if we lose AoC for 2 or 3 games we lose a lot of our pace and impact. We now have 3 quality CM players to rotate, but again, with suspensions or knocks, is Oscar Gobern ready to come off the bench or even start? Chaplow signing, getting Guly full time and not losing AoC and AL would be a good Transfer Window, but I still feel we need that cover up front and out wide. Guly has only just started to settle playing in the middle, really not sure he'd do the job out wide for us yet, so would still like to see two more signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 We should have had cover for RL last February. LB & Guly are very good players for us, but they do not have the attributes, especially up until Xmas that RL had with his physical presence in the air. When RL was off colour we struggled, we had threads about him being dropped, but the reality was that we had no like for like cover for him. Bringing in another LB type player is not what we need, we need a decent up and coming youngster who can come off the bench or make a few starts this season. We also need cover in the wide positions. If we were to lose AL for 2 or 3 games we would lose a lot of our creativity, if we lose AoC for 2 or 3 games we lose a lot of our pace and impact. We now have 3 quality CM players to rotate, but again, with suspensions or knocks, is Oscar Gobern ready to come off the bench or even start? Chaplow signing, getting Guly full time and not losing AoC and AL would be a good Transfer Window, but I still feel we need that cover up front and out wide. Guly has only just started to settle playing in the middle, really not sure he'd do the job out wide for us yet, so would still like to see two more signings. The problem we had with regards to our front line was that RL was off colour, David Connelly was as usual, in the treatment room, Guly was sh*t up front and Lee Barnard had a spot of bother and ruined the ligaments in his hand in a random incident. We had no option but to play RL. I think we should f*ck off Connelly and get in a young whippet who we can chuck on in last 20 minutes to run at tired defences when things are not going our way. So long as we keep Guly, Lee Barnard keeps himself out of prison and Lambo stays fit and on Form, the sole addition of a young whippet would see us through IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 January, 2011 look at Brighton squad on their OS if you think we are weak anywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 think the squad should be - as has been shown recently - but pleased to hear about strengthening I agree in that our team should be strong enough to win this league. And barring injurys or loss of form from key players there is plenty of room to go on and win the league. Football is not like that though and we have proved we have been a little week in some area's of the squad so strengthening is a good idea. Add to that the fact that winning the league is not the only plan moving forward and being active in the transfer windows is vital. The plan is to win the league and then aim for top 6 of the championship next season. So players coming in need to be of the right quality to push us in that direction or there is no point in bringing them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 There are still well over 20 games to go. I am sure some of our players have yellows dangling over their heads. Our first XI may well be able to beat anyone in this league (remains to be seen if that applies to away too, esp. Brighton), but to say that everyone will reman available is really unrealistic. Strengthening is a must, not only for promotion, but also so we hit the ground running next season (sorry if its a tired cliche from me that I repeat every turning point of every season, but we spectacularly f**k up our preparation every summer). :shock: I find myself agreeing with you Alps!!! I believe we will get promoted this season, might not be a straight forward march to the title as we would like but fairly sure we will get there non the less. I think we will do OK in the Championship too but like you I cant see us having a start to the season any better than all our other starts to the seasons. We see to have something built into our club that says we must start crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pressingon Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 So long as we keep Guly, Lee Barnard keeps himself out of prison and Lambo stays fit and on Form, the sole addition of a young whippet would see us through IMO. Agreed but would also like the addition of another Chaplow like player I think it's no coincidence that his return to the side has had a major impact. A similar hard tackling, box to box player who can pick a pass and score the odd goal would not only be great cover but would strenghen the middle for all the tough away games coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 Very interesting comments from Nigel - the word substantial sounds exciting of course ..L1 media hype can mean 300K..thats more than most other L1 clubs could afford. There won't be many player moves - except for those warding off bankruptcy - as we did , or until someone is sold for a decent fee and the money wil lead on to other smaller sales. IMHO we'll do well to get another deal as good as Chaplow..and certainly not for 50K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 There are still well over 20 games to go. I am sure some of our players have yellows dangling over their heads. Our first XI may well be able to beat anyone in this league (remains to be seen if that applies to away too, esp. Brighton), but to say that everyone will reman available is really unrealistic. Strengthening is a must, not only for promotion, but also so we hit the ground running next season (sorry if its a tired cliche from me that I repeat every turning point of every season, but we spectacularly f**k up our preparation every summer). Isn't the slate wiped clean over new year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 (edited) Isn't the slate wiped clean over new year? You are correct as far as 5 cautions goes. They now need to avoid getting 10 yellow cards before the second Sunday in April. http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/~/media/Files/PDF/TheFA/Disciplinary/DHandbook201011.ashx/DHandbook201011.pdf 5 Cautions If a player receives 5 cautions between the first day of the season and 31st December they will be suspended for a period of 1 match and be fined £15. If a player receives a 5th caution after the 31st December they will be warned as to their future conduct. 10 Cautions If a player receives 10 cautions between the first day of the season and the second Sunday in April they will be suspended for a period of 2 matches and be fined £15. If a player receives a 10th caution after the second Sunday in April they will be severely censured and warned as to their future conduct. 15 Cautions If a player receives 15 cautions playing between the first and last day of the season they will be suspended for a period of 3 matches and be fined £15 20+ Cautions If a player is cautioned 20 times between the first and last day of the season they will be charged with continuing misconduct. For every 5 cautions they receive thereafter they will be charged with continuing misconduct. The suspension received is from ALL football and is cleared by the qualifying matches that he received the cautions for. For example, if a player receives 15 first team cautions they will be suspended from all football until the first team have completed the relevant number of qualifying fixtures If a player receives 2 cautions for the First Team and 3 cautions whilst playing for the Reserves side whey will not be suspended as they have not received 5 cautions at the same level of football. This is for "match based disciplinary procedures" as used in All Divisions where Leagues are steps 5/6/7, Women's Premier League County Representative Football and FA Pilot Leagues, including all divisions of Leagues that operate within the National League System, including Reserve divisons (Steps 5-7) As opposed to "time-based" as used in all other Leagues Premiership - Conference National Non-first teams other than open aged male Saturday, U21, U19 and Academy Conference North/South, Northern Premier, Isthmian and Southern Leagues, Non-first teams unless they play at steps 5/6/7 Edited 5 January, 2011 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones91 Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 Pilkington for Udersfield is the best wide man I have seen play against us this season, and he is that rarest of breeds, genuinely two footed. I agree, proved himself again with that goal against Shef Weds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 Just to add, given the number of rearranged matches Saints now have between Jan 1 and April. I think the 10 caution problem will be far more of an issue than the 5-yellow one, because we played fewer League matches before Dec 31 than usual, and will be playing more than usual very soon. So another centre midfielder would be handy. As a total aside, I noticed Jacob Mellis was on the bench for Chelsea the other day. Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 Just to add, given the number of rearranged matches Saints now have between Jan 1 and April. I think the 10 caution problem will be far more of an issue than the 5-yellow one, because we played fewer League matches before Dec 31 than usual, and will be playing more than usual very soon. So another centre midfielder would be handy. As a total aside, I noticed Jacob Mellis was on the bench for Chelsea the other day. Strange. Not that it's a reflection on Mellis but Chelsea are scraping the barrel of late, using all of their young players a lot more.Loads of injuries I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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