Politics and Brain Structures

[Deppo]

I mean, you come out with serious arguments like this:

 

This video perfectly illustrates the brainpower of the average leftie.

 

 

...and they just start blabbing on about sexist presenters and stuff. You can't get a serious internet argument out of any of them, these days. I blame their leftie brains - LOL!

[dune]

Agreed, but sometimes these lefties just won't let us, mate.

 

You know what i'm talking about. There are two sides to most arguments, and in the case of this thread it couldn't be more devicive, but that doesn't mean we can't have a sensible debate. We could of course all act like 5 year olds and converse on your rib tickling level, but this is the lounge.

[Deppo]

I agree entirely, dune.

[dune]

I agree entirely, dune.

 

The thing is you don't. The comment above is just a continuation of your sillyness. Some people quite clearly find you amusing, and on the odd ocasion you are, but generally speaking you never give an argument or an opinion that isn't sarcastic.

 

Your quoted post perfectly illustrates this.

[aintforever]

I see all the swollen amygdala heads on here are doing their best to prove the scientists right.

[Deppo]

I think left wingers are very thick and very jealous.

 

We could of course all act like 5 year olds and call each other thick? That would be well 'devicive' (sic), as you put it. Like a thicko might.

[Deppo]

The thing is you don't. The comment above is just a continuation of your sillyness. Some people quite clearly find you amusing, and on the odd ocasion you are, but generally speaking you never give an argument or an opinion that isn't sarcastic.

 

Your quoted post perfectly illustrates this.

 

Actually, I think my opinion and argument has been made quite clear on this thread. At least, the more intelligent (left-wing? liberal?) posters could probably see it.

Edited 29 December, 2010 by Deppo

[Johnny Bognor]

OK, serious point now.

 

If UCL have got enough time to carry out crap research on behalf of a celeb and his radio show, this in itself shows that cutting university funding is no bad thing. When the university cuts come in, they should start with UCL as they clearly have got nothing better to do than waste tax payers money.

[dune]

We could of course all act like 5 year olds and call each other thick? That would be well 'devicive' (sic), as you put it. Like a thicko might.

 

Well i apologise for that.

 

It would have been more accurate to have described left wingers as less intelligent than right wingers. I have already shown that it was right wingers that built Britain and the Western World in to the prosperous civilisation we all live in today, so quite clearly right wingers are very smart, and one only has to look at Britains finances in 1979 and 2010 to see that left wingers reversed the process.

[aintforever]

OK, serious point now.

 

If UCL have got enough time to carry out crap research on behalf of a celeb and his radio show, this in itself shows that cutting university funding is no bad thing. When the university cuts come in, they should start with UCL as they clearly have got nothing better to do than waste tax payers money.

 

Your Amygdala must have taken over half your head if you think researching the human brain and thought is not valid research.

[dune]

Actually, I think my opinion and argument has been made quite clear on this thread. At least, the more intelligent (left-wing? liberal?) posters could probably see it.

 

Of course they enjoy your posts, because you are very good at mocking different views with your trademark hilarity and mirth laced with lashings of sarcasm. When you (and those with similar views) find yourself (themselves) in a tightspot and run out of a rational argument it's always good to have you on hand.

[Deppo]

Well i apologise for that.

 

Well don't complain when a thread doesn't go the way you want it to go. You always throw a right wobbly whenever a thread doesn't go your way. Mainly those threads where the attention is taken away from you and your conspicuously contentious views.

[Deppo]

Of course they enjoy your posts, because you are very good at mocking different views with your trademark hilarity and mirth laced with lashings of sarcasm. When you (and those with similar views) find yourself (themselves) in a tightspot and run out of a rational argument it's always good to have you on hand.

 

Read again. I didn't say 'enjoy'. I said that they can see what my opinion is. You really are in your own little world, dune. You start posting about what you want to, not what has been said. There may be something in this scientific study after all.

[Johnny Bognor]

Your Amygdala must have taken over half your head if you think researching the human brain and thought is not valid research.

 

If you come down from your moral and intellectual high ground, just for a minute, I am not against research into the human brain. I am against research which is statistically insignificant (90 students? ...and thus proves nothing) when it is done on behalf of a celebrity for a 2nd rate radio show.

 

If it is done to 'further' our knowledge, no problem with that at all. If it is done for a laugh (as is suggested in the article), then let the axe fall on UCL and give the money to serious scientists, who may benefit mankind from their professional research.

 

Do you need a lift back up to the high ground (I can always call you a cab, don't worry, I'll pay for it) or are you going to walk back up?

 

Actually, why bother walking up, when you can get someone else to pay your fare for you.

Edited 29 December, 2010 by Johnny Bognor

[dune]

Well don't complain when a thread doesn't go the way you want it to go. You always throw a right wobbly whenever a thread doesn't go your way. Mainly those threads where the attention is taken away from you and your conspicuously contentious views.

 

Maybe I was wrong to complain because you have actually, albeit unintentionally, done my view point a big favour because you've clearly demonstrated that behind the facade of superiority, there is little substance - be that historical facts or historical precedents - to support the idea that the left wing brain is superior. Quite the opposite.

 

And as for me throwing a wobbly my posting style has remained consistent, wheras you have suddenly become a completely different person.

[Weston Super Saint]

Your Amygdala must have taken over half your head if you think researching the human brain and thought is not valid research.

 

Even family fortunes have the good grace to research 100 people. 90 people can hardly be called conclusive scientific evidence.

[Deppo]

Maybe I was wrong to complain because you have actually, albeit unintentionally, done my view point a big favour because you've clearly demonstrated that behind the facade of superiority, there is little substance - be that historical facts or historical precedents - to support the idea that the left wing brain is superior. Quite the opposite.

 

Wobbly!

 

And as for me throwing a wobbly my posting style has remained consistent, wheras you have suddenly become a completely different person.

 

I'll try and be a bit more monotonous in my 'posting style'(!), so you can understand me. Sorry for any confusion caused.

[Deppo]

Even family fortunes have the good grace to research 100 people. 90 people can hardly be called conclusive scientific evidence.

 

That is an excellent point. Family Fortunes is the benchmark for scientific study. Personally, I always makes sure I research 101 people, which makes my studies even more conclusive, scientifically, than those that research 100 people. Like Family Fortunes.

[Thedelldays]

That is an excellent point. Family Fortunes is the benchmark for scientific study. Personally, I always makes sure I research 101 people, which makes my studies even more conclusive, scientifically, than those that research 100 people. Like Family Fortunes.

 

another funny from our resident comic....brillz

[Deppo]

another funny from our resident comic....brillz

 

Ahfankoo. On a separate note, can you see magic eye pictures, tdd?

[dune]

Wobbly!

 

I'll try and be a bit more monotonous in my 'posting style'(!), so you can understand me. Sorry for any confusion caused.

 

I've not thrown a wobbly at all.

 

I remember watching Whickers world once and Alan Whicker said the golden rule of foreign travel is never to attempt to speak the natives language because it puts you at an immediate disadvantage. If I had lowered myself to your level then quite clearly you'd have had the advantage, but I quite evidently rattled you (which you'll probably deny) into attemping to raise your level to mine. You completely changed your posting style and thus it was you that threw the wobbly and acted out of character (possibly the real you?) and not me.

[Deppo]

but I quite evidently rattled you (which you'll probably deny) into attemping to raise your level to mine. You completely changed your posting style and thus it was you that threw the wobbly and acted out of character (possibly the real you?) and not me.

 

Jesus, dune. What on earth are you talking about?

[dune]

Jesus, dune. What on earth are you talking about?

 

No sarcasm.

 

No Hilarity.

 

That's completely out of character.

[buctootim]

Well i apologise for that.

 

I have already shown that it was right wingers that built Britain and the Western World in to the prosperous civilisation we all live in today.

 

How exactly have you shown it Dune? Claiming it three times in a football forum doesn't make it so. Some kind of evidence would be nice - you know, like documented academic research. Exactly what were the views on redistribution of wealth of the Rothschild's and Isambard Kingdom Brunel?

Edited 29 December, 2010 by buctootim

[Deppo]

dune, stop. Look at what you are writing. You have gone internet mental. "Posting style"? Really? Is this what your life has come to?

 

On another note, can you see magic eye pictures?

[dune]

How exactly have you shown it Dune? Claiming it three times in a football forum doesn't make it so. Some kind of evidence would be nice - you know, like documented academic research.

 

I don't need docuented academic research to prove historical fact.

 

The Industrial revolution was necesitated and fueled by the wars with the French and was able to happen because of right wingers.

 

The Empire was also built by right wingers.

 

Like it or not both the industrial revolution and Britains global superiority are the foundations for the prosperous society we live in today.

[dune]

dune, stop. Look at what you are writing. You have gone internet mental. "Posting style"? Really? Is this what your life has come to?

 

Fair point. Feel free to revert back to your old style.

[buctootim]

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The Industrial revolution was necesitated and fueled by the wars with the French and was able to happen because of right wingers.

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You and Delldays are good value. Its like having two of the UCH guinea pigs in your living room. "I don't need documented academic research to prove historical fact" is especially good. A little help. Do you think history is known because 1. Some people are 947 years old and remembered it all? or 2. Historians conducted academic research?

Edited 29 December, 2010 by buctootim

[dune]

You and Delldays are good value. Its like having two of the UCH guinea pigs in your living room. "I don't need documented academic research to prove historical fact" is especially good. A little help. Do you think history is known because 1. Some people are 947 years old and remembered it all. 2. Historians conducted academic research.

 

3. Because it happened.

 

Why the need to complicate everything?

[Johnny Bognor]

3. Because it happened.

 

Why the need to complicate everything?

 

Dune, leave it.

 

We have to show sympathy towards our norman-no-mates-leftie-friends (and I'll call them 'friends', because they need all the friends they can get)...... as according to this 'research'.......

 

http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nn.2724.html

 

... they are socialy inept.

Edited 29 December, 2010 by Johnny Bognor

[buctootim]

Dune, leave it.

 

We have to show sympathy towards our norman-no-mates-leftie-friends (and I'll call them 'friends', because they need all the friends they can get)...... as according to this 'research'.......

 

http://healthland.time.com/2010/12/28/how-to-win-friends-have-a-big-amygdala/

 

... they are socialy inept.

 

Published by Dorling Kindersley. Peter Kindersley is a very successful, wealthy environmentalist. Poor him. Actually you and Johnny could learn something from him. A wealth creator with a social conscience.

Edited 29 December, 2010 by buctootim

[Deppo]

You and Delldays are good value. Its like having two of the UCH guinea pigs in your living room. "I don't need documented academic research to prove historical fact" is especially good. A little help. Do you think history is known because 1. Some people are 947 years old and remembered it all? or 2. Historians conducted academic research?

 

3. Because it happened.

 

Why the need to complicate everything?

 

This is brilliant. Just brilliant.

[Deppo]

It's a shame you edited it from...

 

3. Because it happened. I don't need a historian to tell me what happened.

 

...which was better. But that one was still brilliant. I love it.

[dune]

This is brilliant. Just brilliant.

 

Panic is setting in...

 

Quick time to spam the thread...

 

I hope no-one see's where dune has turned the table on me...

 

[Johnny Bognor]

Published by Dorling Kindersley. Peter Kindersley is a very successful, wealthy environmentalist. Poor him. Actually you and Johnny could learn something from him. A wealth creator with a social conscience.

 

I have no problem with philanthropy...... respect to Mr Cadbury.

[buctootim]

I have no problem with philanthropy...... respect to Mr Cadbury.

 

So having a concern about the wider world and wealth creation arent mutually exclusive then?

[Deppo]

I have no problem with philanthropy...... respect to Mr Cadbury.

 

I've never had one of those. Does it have nuts? I have an allergy.

[Deppo]

I hope no-one sees where dune has turned the table on me. Please don't search for it and quote it again. Please don't. Don't quote it. Don't.

[Johnny Bognor]

So having a concern about the wider world and wealth creation arent mutually exclusive then?

 

No, not at all. My view is that you create the wealth first, then you have something to distribute. Re-distribution, before it is created, is the downfall of the socialist. Make bigger cakes and there is more to share. Share the small cake and there is not as much to go round. (Put nuts in it, Deppo can't have any, which leaves more for everyone else)

[SuperMikey]

Stop going all PC on me. The study is about the brains left wingers and right wingers. Now you can talk about the different traits, but ultimately it boils down to intelligence. It was right wingers that built not only Briatin, but the whole Western civilisation, into the prosperous civilisation we see today. You can waffle and bleat all you like, but you cannot get away from this fact.

 

It doesn't boil down to intelligence! The point of this thread is to show that research illustrates that people of right and left persuasions have different brain structures. Intelligence does not factor into it!

[Johnny Bognor]

It doesn't boil down to intelligence! The point of this thread is to show that research illustrates that people of right and left persuasions have different brain structures. Intelligence does not factor into it!

 

But whether or not you are a norman no mates does...apparently

[buctootim]

No, not at all. My view is that you create the wealth first, then you have something to distribute. Re-distribution, before it is created, is the downfall of the socialist. Make bigger cakes and there is more to share. Share the small cake and there is not as much to go round. Simple really.

 

Almost nobody disagrees with that principle. Of course there are a hundred shades of opinion about exactly how, when and how much should go to public space, public services and wealth redistribution but the principle is almost universal - except by fruitloops like Dune. You are better than aligning yourself with him JB.

[SuperMikey]

If you come down from your moral and intellectual high ground, just for a minute, I am not against research into the human brain. I am against research which is statistically insignificant (90 students? ...and thus proves nothing) when it is done on behalf of a celebrity for a 2nd rate radio show.

 

If it is done to 'further' our knowledge, no problem with that at all. If it is done for a laugh (as is suggested in the article), then let the axe fall on UCL and give the money to serious scientists, who may benefit mankind from their professional research.

 

Do you need a lift back up to the high ground (I can always call you a cab, don't worry, I'll pay for it) or are you going to walk back up?

 

Actually, why bother walking up, when you can get someone else to pay your fare for you.

 

Research in neuroscience like this is conducted all the time on a multitude of different variables which affect cognitive functions. This research, while featured on a radio programme, is still valid in the field of neuroscience research, and will form the basis of further research into the subject which could throw up a lot of interesting ideas and findings. In reality, you've probably paid 0.000001p of your precious tax money to fund this research, and the mere existence of this research led to the creation of this thread and thus another channel for you to have a pop at people on the internet.

[Deppo]

I think we, as a society, should share all the wealth out and then thnk about making some money. It's the only sensible thing to do.

[SuperMikey]

Also Dune, what is your definition of sensibly debating a topic? I'd be interested to know, as you seem to think that calling lefties 'thick' is perfectly reasonable. Constantly deviating from the subject in hand by posting videos of game shows and talking about the British Empire does not constitute a 'sensible debate' as far as i'm concerned.

[Johnny Bognor]

I think we, as a society, should share all the wealth out and then thnk about making some money. It's the only sensible thing to do.

 

I think you should offer yourself up for medical research. You have 54 friends on here (more than most) which suggests that your amygdala is pronounced. However, your political beliefs border on the left, so you kind of disprove both research projects.

 

Offer yourself up, let them disect your brain and we may get to the bottom of this.

[Deppo]

Sensible debating is asking someone to engage in conversation, then when that person engages in conversation, tell them that you've won because that person tried to engage in conversation with you. This will mean that you won't be engaging in conversation on the topic, but it's not really about that, is it? It's about winning internet battles. It's the only sensible, adult way to do things.

[Johnny Bognor]

Research in neuroscience like this is conducted all the time on a multitude of different variables which affect cognitive functions. This research, while featured on a radio programme, is still valid in the field of neuroscience research, and will form the basis of further research into the subject which could throw up a lot of interesting ideas and findings. In reality, you've probably paid 0.000001p of your precious tax money to fund this research, and the mere existence of this research led to the creation of this thread and thus another channel for you to have a pop at people on the internet.

 

Great. Let's close some hospitals just so these guys can keep researching to enable thread creation on SWF.

 

Don't tell me, you work in the Public Sector?

 

I really hope that most medical research programmes are not commissioned for a laugh. If that is the case, I would rather my 0.000001p be taken away from these jokers and given to something more worthwhile.

Edited 29 December, 2010 by Johnny Bognor

[Deppo]

I think you should offer yourself up for medical research. You have 54 friends on here (more than most) which suggests that your amygdala is pronounced. However, your political beliefs border on the left, so you kind of disprove both research projects.

 

Offer yourself up, let them disect your brain and we may get to the bottom of this.

 

I would gladly do this. For the good of mankind.

[buctootim]

Great. Let's close some hospitals just so these guys can keep researching to enable thread creation on SWF

 

Knowing how much of our views of the world is learned and how much is hard wired is really valuable. The holy grail of pharmaceutical companies is to find personality enhancing drugs to make shy people more outgoing, the reckless more considered and the pig ignorant less able to post on SW. I thought you would welcome this as applied research.