sotonjoe Posted 2 January, 2011 Share Posted 2 January, 2011 To be honest, I think it's time we abandoned post counts and replaced it with a status which shows how often people actually go to games. I'm not sure what having made 15000 posts on teh internet does to help the validity of somebody's judgement on a particular player. Having owned a season ticket for eight years probably gives somebody a more informed judgement. Starting posts with "Having listened to the game on the radio ...." on the other hand ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 2 January, 2011 Share Posted 2 January, 2011 meh. Good reasoned, well thought out argument for your OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted 2 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 January, 2011 Yeah, he played well the other day admittedly. Didn't play well against Huddersfield and was awful against Brentford (as was the whole team). I support him as a player and hope he has proved me wrong following his Exeter performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted 2 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 January, 2011 This thread is hillarious though. A lot of you need to get over yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 2 January, 2011 Share Posted 2 January, 2011 Yeah, he played well the other day admittedly. Didn't play well against Huddersfield and was awful against Brentford (as was the whole team). I support him as a player and hope he has proved me wrong following his Exeter performance. He played very well against Huddersfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 2 January, 2011 Share Posted 2 January, 2011 What gives you that impression? I only listened to the first few minutes. last question to him was does he want to stay here....he doesnt seem too positive...i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 January, 2011 Share Posted 2 January, 2011 he proved you wrong even before you posted it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 2 January, 2011 Share Posted 2 January, 2011 Yeah, he played well the other day admittedly. Didn't play well against Huddersfield and was awful against Brentford (as was the whole team). I support him as a player and hope he has proved me wrong following his Exeter performance. You shouldn't measure the quality only on the amount of goals somebody scores. Guly had an all round better game against Huddersfield, then he actually had yesterday, although that wasn't bad either. As usual you will always find a good number of backslappers for a goal scorer, even though they usually don't notice any other part of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyhale Posted 2 January, 2011 Share Posted 2 January, 2011 (edited) This thread is hillarious though. A lot of you need to get over yourselves. Yes and everyboby laughing at YOU another pointless thread Edited 2 January, 2011 by dickyhale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Dont think the Taxi will arrive for Guly now unless he does not want to stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Sounded like he had another great game today, and away from home in a battling performance on a bad pitch WELL DONE MY SON Rory, the taxi driver wants paying for his wasted trip mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Please stop bumping this thread. Rory wants it to dies........oh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 This shows the value of having a connected and ambitious chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 (edited) My guly opinion hasn't changed. He has the ability to do well in this league and higher but has been erratic. Understandable in a new country and I hope the goals give him some confidence. Adrian..? erratic Guly? Lambert 2 goals in last 10 Chamberlain 3 in last 10 Lallana 4 in last 10 " Erratic " GULY 5 in last 10 ... Yeah sure ! and not bad for someone who's only been at the club for 4 months - and still can't talk English to his team mates. Maybe the rest of the squad should learn some Portuguese! Edited 3 January, 2011 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Adrian..? erratic Guly? Lambert 2 goals in last 10 Chamberlain 3 in last 10 Lallana 4 in last 10 " Erratic " GULY 5 in last 10 ... Yeah sure ! and not bad for someone who's only been at the club for 4 months - and still can't talk English to his team mates. Maybe the rest of the squad should learn some Portuguese! Fonte already has..good boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denzil Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Taxi for Rory. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 This thread is hillarious though. A lot of you need to get over yourselves. Might sound like Kerr, but that taxi is definitely for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted 3 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 MOTM today. And what a nicely taken goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 MOTM today. And what a nicely taken goal. Indeed. I was with a couple of Daggers supporting friends and after Guly's run and goal they just looked at each other and after a few seconds stunned silence just said to eachother: "superb - different class. He's far too good for this division". I then failed miserably to convince them that he'd failed to impress some Saints fans up until recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 I then failed miserably to convince them that he'd failed to impress some Saints fans up until recently. Hahaha, I bet they thought Saints fans were a right odd bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Indeed. I was with a couple of Daggers supporting friends and after Guly's run and goal they just looked at each other and after a few seconds stunned silence just said to eachother: "superb - different class. He's far too good for this division". I then failed miserably to convince them that he'd failed to impress some Saints fans up until recently. That's because he had failed to impress until recently, hth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Hahaha, I bet they thought Saints fans were a right odd bunch. But Guly hasn't been good until recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 That's because he had failed to impress until recently, hth But Guly hasn't been good until recently. Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. Excellent though Guly has been in recent games, he hasn't quite been good enough to change the past. Perhaps the Daggers fans trousers spoke to wouldn't have been quite so over-awed if they'd seen his performance against Shrewsbury, Rochdale or Brentford. Anyway onwards and upwards. Surely this thread has run its course now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Surely this thread has run its course now. I agree - time to put Rory out of his misery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 (edited) But Guly hasn't been good until recently. Well this is the thing. I think most Saints fans think he has. But what I meant really was how the Daggers fans must have perceived Saints fans. They're watching their team get well beaten and then they hear that the oppositions best player (on the day) isn't rated by some fans. Rubs the salt into the wounds a little I guess. Edited 4 January, 2011 by niceandfriendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 I'll wait until seen his goal before deciding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 That's because he had failed to impress until recently, hth Fair point. Although I feel there are two types of fans when it comes to judging the merits of new players during the "failing to impress" (aka settling in) period. There are those who hastily translate "failing to impress" into "he's crap" versus those who wait to judge until the embedding process has reached the end of a more realistic timeframe. I believe the word is pragmatism. HTH :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Fair point. Although I feel there are two types of fans when it comes to judging the merits of new players during the "failing to impress" (aka settling in) period. There are those who hastily translate "failing to impress" into "he's crap" versus those who wait to judge until the embedding process has reached the end of a more realistic timeframe. I believe the word is pragmatism. HTH :-) Excellent post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 (edited) http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2257457,00.html Sir Rickie's post-match comments. As far as this thread goes, the penultimate paragraphs are particularly pertinent, putting previous problems in the picture and placing poster's perspicacity in perspective. Edited 4 January, 2011 by RonManager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 he clearly had ability when he first came - didn't help arriving with manager getting sacked and Harding refusing to pass to him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Fair point. Although I feel there are two types of fans when it comes to judging the merits of new players during the "failing to impress" (aka settling in) period. There are those who hastily translate "failing to impress" into "he's crap" versus those who wait to judge until the embedding process has reached the end of a more realistic timeframe. I believe the word is pragmatism. HTH :-) You can only judge a player by what you see and before the last couple of games he has been pretty crap and has had enough games to prove himself. He's done well recently but this doesn't stop us commenting on previous poor performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Watching the highlights on Saints Player just now, shows a lot more than FL show, and Guly effectively started the move for our first goal by chasing back, stealing possession and setting AOC away down the right. Missed a couple of difficult headed chances, but so many chances involved him... he was integral to a lot of good things we did it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 he clearly had ability when he first came - didn't help arriving with manager getting sacked and Harding refusing to pass to him! Yep, it was obvious the boy has a lot of ability right from his first game. Now he is more settled, everyone is starting to realise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 his first game was the pathetic home defeat in JPT, with a team with no spirit or organisation, crowd with no atmosphere - first of three straight defeats. Not easy time to arrive. Showed pace and good touch, but couldn't get into the game - partly due to playing LM infront of Harding who was either igniring him or shouting at him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 his first game was the pathetic home defeat in JPT, with a team with no spirit or organisation, crowd with no atmosphere - first of three straight defeats. Not easy time to arrive. Showed pace and good touch, but couldn't get into the game - partly due to playing LM infront of Harding who was either igniring him or shouting at him! To be fair, he was only adopting the normal English person's method of communicating with foreigners who don't speak English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Watching the highlights on Saints Player just now, shows a lot more than FL show, and Guly effectively started the move for our first goal by chasing back, stealing possession and setting AOC away down the right. Missed a couple of difficult headed chances, but so many chances involved him... he was integral to a lot of good things we did it seems. Yep, that's what impressed me most. One minute he was leading the the front line the next he was tracking back winning the ball deep in our own half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted 4 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Taxi for Rory. Happy now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 You can only judge a player by what you see and before the last couple of games he has been pretty crap and has had enough games to prove himself. He's done well recently but this doesn't stop us commenting on previous poor performances. I didn't think he had poor performances. i just think for fans on here Rory did a great job highlighting the player, and the response has got the doubters looking at other parts of his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 I didn't think he had poor performances. i just think for fans on here Rory did a great job highlighting the player, and the response has got the doubters looking at other parts of his game. come on..he has been poor in games..now, he is red hot...long may it continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Taxi for Rory. Happy now? We all make mistakes, I said that Shearer was over-rated, and not a good finisher when he left us.Lol To be fair, he missed loads of one on ones for us, but the moment he pulled on a Blackburn shirt he just grew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 come on..he has been poor in games..now, he is red hot...long may it continue in your eyes DD. if you care to go back to the Yeovil game thread, i then said he was likely to be a good player for us. I may have missed games he was poor in, but when I have seen him play I have seen a consistent desire to do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted 4 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 January, 2011 come on..he has been poor in games..now, he is red hot...long may it continue Nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 in your eyes DD. if you care to go back to the Yeovil game thread, i then said he was likely to be a good player for us. I may have missed games he was poor in, but when I have seen him play I have seen a consistent desire to do well. before everyone drools over him..he is doing very well.. how do we know this is not a purple patch.....even BWP hit one of those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 before everyone drools over him..he is doing very well.. how do we know this is not a purple patch.....even BWP hit one of those I don't think he is the new Maradona , but I suggest most people came on rubbishing you and Rory as it seemed that you were blinkered. He will like all players have good and bad games, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutwood2 Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 As I said on here after his five minutes (most of his touches being rubbish, probably due to over anxiousness) against Rovers, "This guy will turn out to be a class act!" It was obvious he had the awareness, movement and willingness to do a great job for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 I thought he was great at home to oldham a couple of months back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 in your eyes DD. if you care to go back to the Yeovil game thread, i then said he was likely to be a good player for us. I may have missed games he was poor in, but when I have seen him play I have seen a consistent desire to do well. I have seen some of the games he was poor in just like I missed the last two games he has been good in, one thing is for sure everyone will have different views of players but that doesn't make us right or wrong just opinionated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 I have seen some of the games he was poor in just like I missed the last two games he has been good in, one thing is for sure everyone will have different views of players but that doesn't make us right or wrong just opinionated. So if someone came on here and said that in his opinion MLT was useless and over-rated would he be right or wrong or would you value his opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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