Turkish Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Because of tunnel vision and and a dearth of football knowledge. He is a good player at this level at the very minimum. He pulled the Huddersfield defenders all over the place with his movement and passing. He'll do for me. exactly, the same ones that slag off Gully are no doubt the same ones that slagged off Puncheon, Mcgoldrick, Blackstock, Fuller etc. It always amuses me how people bang on now about how great Waigo was yet when he was here people were constantly moaning about him not being that good and always offside, since he's gone though he's become the Senegalese Maradona.
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 exactly, the same ones that slag off Gully are no doubt the same ones that slagged off Puncheon, Mcgoldrick, Blackstock, Fuller etc. It always amuses me how people bang on now about how great Waigo was yet when he was here people were constantly moaning about him not being that good and always offside, since he's gone though he's become the Senegalese Maradona. I think I was too critical yesterday...his finishing (or attempts) are utterly woeful..however, thinking back, his work rate and movement were good... I still dont think he warrants a start should we have barny fully match fit...
niceandfriendly Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Just seen this thread, wish I hadn't. Rory, oh dear oh dear. Hope you've got enough cash on you for the long taxi journey you need to take yourself. Just to echo what most people have said on here, his link up play, movement and passing is better than most in our side, but his finishing at the moment leaves a lot to be desired so is an easy target for the clueless minority. He played a big part in our win yesterday there is no doubt about that.
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Just seen this thread, wish I hadn't. Rory, oh dear oh dear. Hope you've got enough cash on you for the long taxi journey you need to take yourself. Just to echo what most people have said on here, his link up play, movement and passing is better than most in our side, but his finishing at the moment leaves a lot to be desired so is an easy target for the clueless minority. He played a big part in our win yesterday there is no doubt about that. i think you mean majority, judging by the mutterings inside the stadium everytime he makes a mistake.
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 i think you mean majority, judging by the mutterings inside the stadium everytime he makes a mistake. there was a sizable "boo" when his free header went waaaay wide..(or another chance he fluffed)..
Seaford Saint Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 90% of people on this site are thick - fact - end of
OldNick Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Because of tunnel vision and and a dearth of football knowledge. He is a good player at this level at the very minimum. He pulled the Huddersfield defenders all over the place with his movement and passing. He'll do for me. in the 2nd half he took the defence away to leave hammond a free run and shot, that was one of the many good things he did. I was in the Northam end, but his header did not look as easy at some think it was, he was to the left of the goal and not in the middle, and whilst he made a hash of it, it was not an easy chance from where I was.
OldNick Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 90% of people on this site are thick - fact - end of what about the other 20%?
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Quick quiz... What links the following 4 players? Guly, Jason Puncheon, BWP, Jermaine Wright, Ricardo Fuller. They have all been used as a scapegoat when we aren't playing well by certain sections of the crowd, yet have all shown themselves to play well at a higher level than at Saints (perhaps not BWP). What else links them? Ah yes, they aren't white. Come on guys, racism just aint Saintly.
miserableoldgit Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Quick quiz... What links the following 4 players? Guly, Jason Puncheon, BWP, Jermaine Wright, Ricardo Fuller. They have all been used as a scapegoat when we aren't playing well by certain sections of the crowd, yet have all shown themselves to play well at a higher level than at Saints (perhaps not BWP). What else links them? Ah yes, they aren't white. Come on guys, racism just aint Saintly. Oh Dear God!! You cannot be serious! Please tell me that you missed a smiley/winky thing off your post.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Oh Dear God!! You cannot be serious! Please tell me that you missed a smiley/winky thing off your post. No. I genuinely believe that some of the people on this site are being racist. There is no other reason why players like Fuller (playing for Stoke and playing well in the Prem), Puncheon (was not given even time before the boos and groans started and is now ripping apart the Championship) and Guly (2 assists yesterday, great link up play, yet is still ****) are not given a chance here.
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 No. I genuinely believe that some of the people on this site are being racist. There is no other reason why players like Fuller (playing for Stoke and playing well in the Prem), Puncheon (was not given even time before the boos and groans started and is now ripping apart the Championship) and Guly (2 assists yesterday, great link up play, yet is still ****) are not given a chance here. is it racist to take the mick out of wotton and pulis..?
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 is it racist to take the mick out of wotton and pulis..? Nope, because they are genuinely bad players. That's the point. The others aren't, but are still scapegoated. I remember it used to happen with Kenwyne too.
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Nope, because they are genuinely bad players. That's the point. The others aren't, but are still scapegoated. I remember it used to happen with Kenwyne too. what about delap..(who was generally shyt for us)... jermain wright was shyt.....his good games could be counted on one hand
OldNick Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Quick quiz... What links the following 4 players? Guly, Jason Puncheon, BWP, Jermaine Wright, Ricardo Fuller. They have all been used as a scapegoat when we aren't playing well by certain sections of the crowd, yet have all shown themselves to play well at a higher level than at Saints (perhaps not BWP). What else links them? Ah yes, they aren't white. Come on guys, racism just aint Saintly. you forgot DMG. Saying that it is not down to colour, but a mixture of ignorance, arrogance, a belief that we should have better players than we have, and not recognising that you dont have to run around like a headless chicken everytime you are 20 yards from the ball. The common theme with those listed is the accusation that they dont have good body language.lol. MLT looked uninterested and didnt run his ******** off, he just came alive when he got on the ball. I understand why fans like to see players running and chasing aka Barnard, but if you care to watch Guly did a lot of that yesterday (in all games), it is just unfortunate he doesn't interact with the crowd when they give him praise. He is like Ballotelli (Spl ?)and rarely looks happy.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 what about delap..(who was generally shyt for us)... jermain wright was shyt.....his good games could be counted on one hand Look, it's just my opinion on the matter, but it seems that some fans jump on black players backs quicker than they do others. Either they are racist, whether intentional or subliminally, or ****ing pig **** thick. Either way, they usually tend to be wrong.
JRM Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 HAHAHA what an absolute moron this dibden purlieu chap is. i saw the KKK out in force yesterday cheering on Jaidi and Chamberlin, as they have done the years with the wallace brothers, ken monkou, the list goes on. keep working on your theories though.
rallyboy Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Fuller's greatest moment at St Marys was hitting the roof of the stand from six yards in a Pompey shirt. His finishing for us and for Stoke was and has been woeful on occasions, his inability to hit the target has cost them many times especially prior to their promotion, yes he's scored some great goals - but overall I would personally rate him as poor value. Puncheon's finishing for us has been appalling - he may like Guly have other aspects to his game but if you are a goal down and a well-paid professional who practices all week keeps blasting chances all over the shop he is going to get stick - no matter what his nationality, religion, colour, sexuality etc. To suggest most fans are ignorant and it's racism should be late entries for most ridiculous posts of the year. BWP's career has really taken off since he was scooped up by wherever he went and Jermaine Wright who I thought was harshly treated on occasions will always be a Prem legend - yes these guys have all proved us wrong..... A minority booing Davis - is that racism or just people who forget that he has saved us on a few occasions but had a nightmare the other week? Rather than ignorant I would say all fans are fickle, always have been, always will be - they will be annoyed with anyone not pulling their weight in a Saints shirt - whatever their colour. Some are thick but they can't all be wrong. No, the racist accusation doesn't stack up at all.
shane d Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 His finishing was bad but his link up play was outstanding. I thought he had a good game..... too many one dimensional fans not seeing the bigger picture. Total agreement with you mate. His feet were to slow when it came to shooting, but his runs and passing were excellent
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 HAHAHA what an absolute moron this dibden purlieu chap is. i saw the KKK out in force yesterday cheering on Jaidi and Chamberlin, as they have done the years with the wallace brothers, ken monkou, the list goes on. keep working on your theories though. I did say unintentional or subliminal...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Fuller's greatest moment at St Marys was hitting the roof of the stand from six yards in a Pompey shirt. His finishing for us and for Stoke was and has been woeful on occasions, his inability to hit the target has cost them many times especially prior to their promotion, yes he's scored some great goals - but overall I would personally rate him as poor value. Puncheon's finishing for us has been appalling - he may like Guly have other aspects to his game but if you are a goal down and a well-paid professional who practices all week keeps blasting chances all over the shop he is going to get stick - no matter what his nationality, religion, colour, sexuality etc. To suggest most fans are ignorant and it's racism should be late entries for most ridiculous posts of the year. BWP's career has really taken off since he was scooped up by wherever he went and Jermaine Wright who I thought was harshly treated on occasions will always be a Prem legend - yes these guys have all proved us wrong..... A minority booing Davis - is that racism or just people who forget that he has saved us on a few occasions but had a nightmare the other week? Rather than ignorant I would say all fans are fickle, always have been, always will be - they will be annoyed with anyone not pulling their weight in a Saints shirt - whatever their colour. Some are thick but they can't all be wrong. No, the racist accusation doesn't stack up at all. Potentially it is all a coincidence, I just feel that it tends to happen more with black players than any others. But it could be that they are stupid, and not racist.
OldNick Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Fuller's greatest moment at St Marys was hitting the roof of the stand from six yards in a Pompey shirt. His finishing for us and for Stoke was and has been woeful on occasions, his inability to hit the target has cost them many times especially prior to their promotion, yes he's scored some great goals - but overall I would personally rate him as poor value. Puncheon's finishing for us has been appalling - he may like Guly have other aspects to his game but if you are a goal down and a well-paid professional who practices all week keeps blasting chances all over the shop he is going to get stick - no matter what his nationality, religion, colour, sexuality etc. To suggest most fans are ignorant and it's racism should be late entries for most ridiculous posts of the year. BWP's career has really taken off since he was scooped up by wherever he went and Jermaine Wright who I thought was harshly treated on occasions will always be a Prem legend - yes these guys have all proved us wrong..... A minority booing Davis - is that racism or just people who forget that he has saved us on a few occasions but had a nightmare the other week? Rather than ignorant I would say all fans are fickle, always have been, always will be - they will be annoyed with anyone not pulling their weight in a Saints shirt - whatever their colour. Some are thick but they can't all be wrong. No, the racist accusation doesn't stack up at all. I agree about the racist thing being wrong,but your assessment of Fuller is not correct in my mind. Fuller got the wrath of the fans for 2 main reasons 1. being ex pompey 2. for costing only 90k (a bargain). He was never made to feel welcome. The timing was bad for him as we were all frustrated in us selling all the stars and only spending 90k. I bet if we could get a player as good as him for 90k now we would not scoff like some did then
hypochondriac Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 exactly, the same ones that slag off Gully are no doubt the same ones that slagged off Puncheon, Mcgoldrick, Blackstock, Fuller etc. It always amuses me how people bang on now about how great Waigo was yet when he was here people were constantly moaning about him not being that good and always offside, since he's gone though he's become the Senegalese Maradona. I'm guessing that the people praising Waigo now are not the same people who were slagging him off?
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 I'm guessing that the people praising Waigo now are not the same people who were slagging him off? wouldn't surprise me! LOL @ this thread though, some of the divs on here really are clueless. And as for the racist comment, classic.
hypochondriac Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Look, it's just my opinion on the matter, but it seems that some fans jump on black players backs quicker than they do others. Either they are racist, whether intentional or subliminally, or ****ing pig **** thick. Either way, they usually tend to be wrong. HAHAHAHA I don't get personal on here often but that is the most moronic thing I have ever seen on here.
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Quick quiz... What links the following 4 players? Guly, Jason Puncheon, BWP, Jermaine Wright, Ricardo Fuller. They have all been used as a scapegoat when we aren't playing well by certain sections of the crowd, yet have all shown themselves to play well at a higher level than at Saints (perhaps not BWP). What else links them? Ah yes, they aren't white. Come on guys, racism just aint Saintly. Quick Quiz... What links the following 4 players? Alex Chamberlain, Theo Walcott, Danny Wallace, Ken Monkou. They were all the darling of the crowd at some point whilst they were at Saints and are all black. How about another one.... What links the following players? Dean Hammond, Kelvin Davis, Rory Delap, Anders Svenson, Andreas Jackobson, Paul Rideout, Paul Telfer & Graham Baker They were all the scapegoat of the crowd at some point and are all white. Saints fans are racist?? Mental. One of the most ridiculous posts of the century.
ericb Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 I thought Guly was pretty damn good yesterday, though i'm still severely doubting whether he's the right player for the team. I think the interesting thing is that so much of what these types of players are slated for is exactly the same thing the press slate (on a much higher level) creative players for in respects of the England team. Perhaps it's a cultural thing that many want to see a player like Barnard or (in his day) Ormerod running around like a headless chicken, rather than one that's involved in slow build up, drawing defenders away from other players to create space. For me it's no coincidence that Oxo and Lallana had more space yesterday, nor that Ricky was further up the pitch. It's the result of having a link up player that can drop back so the midfield can come forward. As for [some of] the comments on these players, i've always put it down to people that don't/haven't played the game. If you haven't then it's unlikely you can see some of the subtleties that go on off the ball. I was always taught that some players have their best games when they're not noticed at all. Playing the simple pass, picking up your man and creating space for others. I've met a few Saints web type supporters in the past, on trains at away games etc. and they always strike me more as the stato types rather than those that've played. I'm sure this doesn't go for all but it may well explain the loathing for a certain style of player from a few.
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 so..barny is a headless chickhen now..?
Appy Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Quick Quiz... What links the following 4 players? Alex Chamberlain, Theo Walcott, Danny Wallace, Ken Monkou. They were all the darling of the crowd at some point whilst they were at Saints and are all black. How about another one.... What links the following players? Dean Hammond, Kelvin Davis, Rory Delap, Anders Svenson, Andreas Jackobson, Paul Rideout, Paul Telfer & Graham Baker They were all the scapegoat of the crowd at some point and are all white. Saints fans are racist?? Mental. One of the most ridiculous posts of the century. I liked Le Tissier more than i liked McGoldrick, does this make me racist?
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Quick Quiz... What links the following 4 players? Alex Chamberlain, Theo Walcott, Danny Wallace, Ken Monkou. They were all the darling of the crowd at some point whilst they were at Saints and are all black. How about another one.... What links the following players? Dean Hammond, Kelvin Davis, Rory Delap, Anders Svenson, Andreas Jackobson, Paul Rideout, Paul Telfer & Graham Baker They were all the scapegoat of the crowd at some point and are all white. Saints fans are racist?? Mental. One of the most ridiculous posts of the century. I don't think people are getting my point. Never mind.
Andy_Porter Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Quick quiz... What links the following 4 players? Guly, Jason Puncheon, BWP, Jermaine Wright, Ricardo Fuller. They have all been used as a scapegoat when we aren't playing well by certain sections of the crowd, yet have all shown themselves to play well at a higher level than at Saints (perhaps not BWP). What else links them? Ah yes, they aren't white. Come on guys, racism just aint Saintly. You idiot. What about Telfer, Schneiderlin, Hammond, James, Rasiak, Saganowski, Pulis, Wotton etc who have all been given loads of grief?
Tom28 Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Just watched the highlights as I couldnt make the game yesterday. I'm sorry, but the highlight reel was full of Guly doing good things. This thread is absolute nonsense. As are most.
Red&White Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 His finishing was bad but his link up play was outstanding. I thought he had a good game..... too many one dimensional fans not seeing the bigger picture. This
hypochondriac Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 I thought Ali Dia was cr*p. I'm worried I am a racist pig now
hypochondriac Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 It's OK! I thought Mario Licka was rubbish as well so I can't be a racist. Thank goodness
Appy Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 On 2nd viewing without my beer goggles on i thought he did alrite and my view was probably blinded by his lack of finishing ability. Will be interesting to see what plans we have for him though.
Minty Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 (edited) A couple of points: 1 - Guly reminds me of Teddy Sheringham. Teddy was also never an out-and-out striker to many fans (I personally don't like pigeon holing players in specific positions, but it seems the done thing for most fans) but often played in the hole or off another striker, linking play, pulling defences around and creating opportunities for others. Yes, Teddy was a good finisher too, but I am sure Guly can and will improve this aspect, given the support of fans whilst he is on the pitch. But when he plays, I see him play very much in that Teddy style. A valuable option to have. 2 - I admit that favour a settled first XI, but it is always important to have options and variation, and Guly gives us that. I love Barnard and think he is an excellent player. I also readily admit that I thought he should've started the game instead of Guly when I heard the team, but Guly went on to show what he can offer. We don't know what would've happened if Barnard had started, but it is by no means certain that he would've scored Guly's chances. 3 - It doesn't matter who a player is, the best way of helping them settle and improve is to support them vocally when they do miss chances. We all have an initial shout of frustration when an effort goes wide or is saved, but once that passes, the next thing a player or the team hears is crucial IMO... if it is followed by a rousing shout of encouragement, and a cacophony of noise, it intimidates the opposition and lifts our players to think 'Come on, a goal is coming'... if it is followed by even a few boos and mutterings of discontent, it puts players on edge, it makes them fearful of making further mistakes and then it can affects the whole game. No matter what, fans need to get right behind players for the full 95 minutes, even when they miss or muck up... Players DO pick up on our anxieties and nervousness... constant encouragement is essential. Edited 29 December, 2010 by Minty
hypochondriac Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 On 2nd viewing without my beer goggles on i thought he did alrite and my view was probably blinded by his lack of finishing ability. Will be interesting to see what plans we have for him though. Are you suggesting that we make him dress up and dance for us at half time? Dirty racist scum.
Window Cleaner Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 I just suppose that NA thinks Gully's style suits his game plans more than Barnard. Gully does seem to present plenty of what the French call Volume du Jeu,Makes a lot of things happen and unsettles the opposition because of his unpredictability.It's not as if we're lacking attacking potential really is it because at times you'd think AOC was playing at number 9.I think we're better with Gully than without him.
franny Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 A couple of points: 1 - Guly reminds me of Teddy Sheringham. Teddy was also never an out-and-out striker to many fans (I personally don't like pigeon holing players in specific positions, but it seems the done thing for most fans) but often played in the hole or off another striker, linking play, pulling defences around and creating opportunities for others. Yes, Teddy was a good finisher too, but I am sure Guly can and will improve this aspect, given the support of fans whilst he is on the pitch. But when he plays, I see him play very much in that Teddy style. A valuable option to have. 2 - I admit that favour a settled first XI, but it is always important to have options and variation, and Guly gives us that. I love Barnard and think he is an excellent player. I also readily admit that I thought he should've started the game instead of Guly when I heard the team, but Guly went on to show what he can offer. We don't know what would've happened if Barnard had started, but it is by no means certain that he would've scored Guly's chances. 3 - It doesn't matter who a player is, the best way of helping them settle and improve is to support them vocally when they do miss chances. We all have an initial shout of frustration when an effort goes wide or is saved, but once that passes, the next thing a player or the team hears is crucial IMO... if it is followed by a rousing shout of encouragement, and a cacophony of noise, it intimidates the opposition and lifts our players to think 'Come on, a goal is coming'... if it is followed by even a few boos and mutterings of discontent, it puts players on edge, it makes them fearful of making further mistakes and then it can affects the whole game. No matter what, fans need to get right behind players for the full 95 minutes, even when they miss or muck up... Players DO pick up on our anxieties and nervousness... constant encouragement is essential. Not sure I totally agree with the TS comparison but there are elemnts there but would go with 2 and 3. What was very positive for me yesterday was that we had four different scorers which is a big thing not having to rely on RL or whoever to get all the goals. Guly & Barnard can be intercahangeable because they are different players and at times that is what you need to be unpredictable but if Guly played and every game did not score but set up two goals then I would be happy with him.
Lighthouse Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 Quick quiz... What links the following 4 players? Guly, Jason Puncheon, BWP, Jermaine Wright, Ricardo Fuller. They have all been used as a scapegoat when we aren't playing well by certain sections of the crowd, yet have all shown themselves to play well at a higher level than at Saints (perhaps not BWP). What else links them? Ah yes, they aren't white. Come on guys, racism just aint Saintly. They weren't very good. Fuller - Scored 3 goals in 6 months for us, before being loaned out to Ipswich. I think part of the frustration was that he was the only replacement for Crouch, Phillips and Camara. It's not like people can predict the future. Should we all be raving about how great Pulis is because he is going to play for Real Madrid in 2015? Wright - He was just plain bad. You can say all you like about his attitude and effort, but he was crap. We released him, he went to Blackpool, couldn't get a game for love or money, was released again after just 1 season. Think he was last season playing for Croydon Athletic. BWP - Wasted a lot of chances, didn't score all that many goals and unlike Guly or Waigo, his build up play was terrible. Lazy and gave the ball away, a really bad recipe defensively. Puncheon - The booing of him was stupid, bit it really wasn't all that many people. I remember standing at the back of the Northam and seeing/hearing a lot of boos. It looks bad until you realise it's maybe only 1 or 2 dosen in a stand of 3 or 4 thousand. Guly - Didn't see yesterday, but I think he's pretty poor based on what I've seen already. He gives the ball away a fair bit and wastes a lot of chances. Effort and running are all well and good, but we need a player who can do more than that. Barnard any day for me. I never agree with people booing their own players (individually, but they got a good booing from me after the Brentford match), however there is a fairly understandable reason behind it.
SparkySaint Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 is it racist to take the mick out of wotton and pulis..? Paul Wotton football genius. I'm pretty sure he enjoyed the attention he got and knew it was a joke. He's a joker himself There is a link and its not a good one but Jason Puncheon was extremely frustrating at times. I'm happy he is doing well at Millwall
SparkySaint Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 I just suppose that NA thinks Gully's style suits his game plans more than Barnard. Gully does seem to present plenty of what the French call Volume du Jeu,Makes a lot of things happen and unsettles the opposition because of his unpredictability.It's not as if we're lacking attacking potential really is it because at times you'd think AOC was playing at number 9.I think we're better with Gully than without him. He just blows hot and clod. Great awareness to find AOC and overall did very well yesterday. He has bags of energy and put in the effort
Evil Monkey Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 I thought Guly was inspiring yesterday. What game were you watching Rory? You clueless racist.
channonball Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 He played well yesterday, just his shooting was appalling!! Barny is the better player for sure!
Window Cleaner Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 He played well yesterday, just his shooting was appalling!! Barny is the better player for sure! I would very much doubt that, Barney may be a better striker but I'd think Gully was a better all-round player.
70's Mike Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 I would very much doubt that, Barney may be a better striker but I'd think Gully was a better all-round player. totally agree He gives us un predictability something defenders at all levels hate and especially at this level where the more english style strikers you have the easier it is to defend,yesterday Huddersfield could not cope with the movement around the box of Lallana, Chamberlain and Guly. Bernard and Connolly take up traditional British strikers positions
NickG Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 maybe Barney would have scored those but would he have been in those positions?
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 maybe Barney would have scored those but would he have been in those positions? what..in the penalty area..?
Chez Posted 29 December, 2010 Posted 29 December, 2010 he's not a natural striker, so his first instinct is to get the ball under control and then to strike it.Unfortunately there wasn't time for that yesterday A real striker doesn't even think about the possibility of the ball bobbling they just hit it on either foot whenever it comes their way. The problem we have is if lambert is not scoring then we have two non scoring strikers and that is not going to get us promoted. If Ricky is scoring then Guly could still be the right man for the job, though Barnarnd has done little wrong and offers a great deal when it comes to link up play and hold up play himself.
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