Liquidshokk Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 What complete rubbish. A typical Townie view. Hunting is a humane method of controlling foxes. Where the **** do you get humane from? Are you really insane or is it all an act? Ripping a fox apart is not humane. Getting off on it like those posh ****s on horses do is seriously ****ed up and says all you need to know about the ****s that do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 Weren't you out supporting the Essex hunt? Great video from 2008. I was too busy having a life . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 December, 2010 Where the **** do you get humane from? Are you really insane or is it all an act? Ripping a fox apart is not humane. Getting off on it like those posh ****s on horses do is seriously ****ed up and says all you need to know about the ****s that do it. I take it you are a vegetarian, or are you a hypocrite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 December, 2010 I was too busy having a life . Having a life is all too easy the amount of time you get off work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 It's the thrill of the chase, not the kill, that is fun. Do you agree with dog fighting as well then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 I take it you are a vegetarian, or are you a hypocrite? I dont eat meat because I just don't like consuming dead animals flesh. That has nothing to do with getting enjoyment from killing other living things in such a way. Always been undecided about you on here and always swung towards thinking you're alright. Oh well, you live and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 With hunting there are two outcomes, it lives or it dies quickly. In your experience, how long between the first detection of the scent, and the coup de grace ? ie - how 'quick' is it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 December, 2010 I dont eat meat because I just don't like consuming dead animals flesh. That has nothing to do with getting enjoyment from killing other living things in such a way. Always been undecided about you on here and always swung towards thinking you're alright. Oh well, you live and learn. Humans are omnivores. It's natural to eat meat. So you're abnormal in that respect, but I can understand why you'd be upset about intensively farmed meat. Hunting is a natural and humane method of vermin control, the same as pheasant breeding and shooting is the kindest way to produce and kill food. The fact that it is fun to shoot pheasants seems to be what annoys people like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 December, 2010 In your experience, how long between the first detection of the scent, and the coup de grace ? ie - how 'quick' is it ? You've yet to answer how you would rather control vermin like foxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 December, 2010 Do you agree with dog fighting as well then? No, because it doesn't serve a purpose. Hunting does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 No, because it doesn't serve a purpose. Hunting does. They both kill animals for fun, no difference in my view, except one is frowned upon because it is done by chavs. It shows a lack of intelligence if you enjoy killing animals for fun IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 i see i stumbled on the village idiot worzil gummidge thread:lol:tally ho old bean;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 December, 2010 They both kill animals for fun, no difference in my view, except one is frowned upon because it is done by chavs. It shows a lack of intelligence if you enjoy killing animals for fun IMO. The fact that hunting is fun is just a bonus. That fact remains that it is more humane than gassing, snaring or shooting. Would you rather foxes be controlled by a method other than hunting, that isn't as humane, just to satisfy your prejudice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 December, 2010 i see i stumbled on the village idiot worzil gummidge thread:lol:tally ho old bean;) I'd never have guessed you'd be in the same camp as the great unwashed leftie sabateur types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 Having a life is all too easy the amount of time you get off work. I know, brilliant isn't it? So I owe you a debt of gratitude fellow tax payer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 The fact that hunting is fun is just a bonus. That fact remains that it is more humane than gassing, snaring or shooting. Would you rather foxes be controlled by a method other than hunting, that isn't as humane, just to satisfy your prejudice? What gives you the right to take a life in such a way though? Cos we're at the top of the food chain? so we can do what we like without guilt? Does it make you feel big and hard picking on defenceless animals? Do you have issues going on in that head of yours that spurs you into such evilness? We're you touched as a child? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 December, 2010 (edited) What gives you the right to take a life in such a way though? Cos we're at the top of the food chain? so we can do what we like without guilt? Does it make you feel big and hard picking on defenceless animals? Do you have issues going on in that head of yours that spurs you into such evilness? We're you touched as a child? Oh dear. Just accept the fact that country pursuits are supported by most people, and an overwhelming majority of countryside people. You're the crank here. Take pheasant shooting. There would be no pheasants if it wasn't for shooting. Latest poll: Do you think that banning hunting and the subsequent requirement to police the ban is a good use of police resources? No 62% Yes 33% Don’t know 4% Do you think that animal rights activists should be allowed to take the law into their own hands for the purpose of protecting wild animals? No 85% Yes 13% Don’t know 2% Edited 27 December, 2010 by dune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 You've yet to answer how you would rather control vermin like foxes? There are oh so many questions that you avoid ! As for foxes, it depends on whether you conside them vermin requiring 'control', which I do not, ( and please take into account I live in a very rural area, and keep rabbits and chickens ). If I were to feel the need I would rather trap them and move them, but if killing was necessary, shooting them is the most humane way. On the subject of effective control of foxes, how many avoid the kill ? Do you believe badgers spread bovine TB and should be gassed ? IMO another foolish and misguided injustice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 (edited) Take pheasant shooting. There would be no pheasants if it wasn't for shooting. ... Edited 27 December, 2010 by badgerx16 Can't be arsed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 December, 2010 shooting them is the most humane way. And what if the fox is just clipped, runs away and suffers a slow death? Just so long as your social prejudices are allowed you're not bothered. This is what it all boils down to. People like you don't care about the countryside or animal welfare, you've just got big chips on your shoulders and you see hunting as pursuit for the upper classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 December, 2010 ****** they are a native bird Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 Oh dear. Just accept the fact that country pursuits are supported by most people, and an overwhelming majority of countryside people. You're the crank here. Take pheasant shooting. There would be no pheasants if it wasn't for shooting. Latest poll: Do you think that banning hunting and the subsequent requirement to police the ban is a good use of police resources? No 62% Yes 33% Don’t know 4% Do you think that animal rights activists should be allowed to take the law into their own hands for the purpose of protecting wild animals? No 85% Yes 13% Don’t know 2% If the ban was brought in and the toffy nosed ****s actually abided by the law then there wouldn't be the need to police it so heavily. Who's wrong when they don't follow the law then? Oh, the law I hear you say. Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 Humans are omnivores. It's natural to eat meat. So you're abnormal in that respect, but I can understand why you'd be upset about intensively farmed meat. Hunting is a natural and humane method of vermin control, the same as pheasant breeding and shooting is the kindest way to produce and kill food. The fact that it is fun to shoot pheasants seems to be what annoys people like you. Hunting is the exercise of power over a vulnerable prey. This is the source of pleasure it provides for those whose own lives and self-image are inadequate. Shooting should be used where needed for the purpose of control. It should never be done just for the pleasure in killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 (edited) And what if the fox is just clipped, runs away and suffers a slow death? Just so long as your social prejudices are allowed you're not bothered. This is what it all boils down to. People like you don't care about the countryside or animal welfare, you've just got big chips on your shoulders and you see hunting as pursuit for the upper classes. How much attention do you pay to what is posted ? I live in the bloody countryside, I spend my leisure time in the countryside, and I am extremely concerned about animal welfare, whether it be domesticated, like my rabbits, hens, dogs, cats, and ponies, or wildlife. Hunting is an extremely INEFFICIENT method of controlling fox populations, ( where I live there is no local hunt, and we are not overrun with vulpine invaders ), and if the 'thrill of the chase' is what you are after you can drag hunt. All this activity now provides is a form of snobbish exclusivity, where the majority of participants are nouveaus who work as solicitors, architects, etc, and are looking for a way to prove their escape from merely being part of the hoi-polloi. Edited 27 December, 2010 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 Would you prefer gassing, snaring, or shooting? With hunting there are two outcomes, it lives or it dies quickly. That is humane. Professionally shot is much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 I think its a shame we dont have wolves, boars and bears anymore. At least they might take down a few of the toffs with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 Thinking about it, Ive found two of Dunes relatives... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 What complete rubbish. A typical Townie view. Hunting is a humane method of controlling foxes. Not as humane or efficent as a gun though. I have no problem with pest control and to many foxes can be a problem. However there is no way you can convince me that 40 people on horseback and god knows how many dogs (sorry hounds) are going to kill as many foxes as 40 well trainned marksman with guns in the same amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 What if you replaced the foxes with rats, what would be everyone's opinions then? You could go further and just lay down lots of poison for the foxes to take back to their dens and feed to their cubs, that way you could kill a whole family with a long slow painful death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 What if you replaced the foxes with rats, what would be everyone's opinions then? You could go further and just lay down lots of poison for the foxes to take back to their dens and feed to their cubs, that way you could kill a whole family with a long slow painful death. I think is someone goes around killing rats for a laff they are also a c*nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 What if you replaced the foxes with rats, what would be everyone's opinions then? You could go further and just lay down lots of poison for the foxes to take back to their dens and feed to their cubs, that way you could kill a whole family with a long slow painful death. I dont poison rats either thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 I think is someone goes around killing rats for a laff they are also a c*nt. I dont poison rats either thank you. I guarantee you that every single supermarket, restaurant, shopping centre etc etc that you have ever visited poisons the rats for you. It's a sure way to lose customers to have those rats running free around the tables while you're trying to eat your dinner, or have them running up and down the aisles whilst your doing your weekly shop. Rats are vermin - so are foxes - and are controlled mercilessly, mainly by poisoning, which isn't a pleasant way to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 The unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible. http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/rach/hunting.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 I don't deny that, just think killing animals for fun is for c*nts. You're right. Ask any animal and it will tell you it would much rather be killed for food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 No, because it doesn't serve a purpose. Hunting does. Really? So hunting in the Isle of Wight, where they actually had to introduce foxes in order to hunt them, serves a purpose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 the hoi-polloi. A common mistake. One typical of the the masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 Humans are omnivores. It's natural to eat meat. So you're abnormal in that respect, but I can understand why you'd be upset about intensively farmed meat. Hunting is a natural and humane method of vermin control, the same as pheasant breeding and shooting is the kindest way to produce and kill food. The fact that it is fun to shoot pheasants seems to be what annoys people like you. Stupid argument. The Internet isn't 'natural'. Should you stop using it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 A common mistake. One typical of the the masses. Perhaps I should have said "οἱ πολλοί" ? Do you think DunCe would understand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 A common mistake. One typical of the the masses. Like duplicated use of the word "the"? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 A common mistake. One typical of the the masses. Marie Antoinette and Tsar Nicholas II underestimated 'the masses'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 Oh dear. Just accept the fact that country pursuits are supported by most people, and an overwhelming majority of countryside people. You're the crank here. Take pheasant shooting. There would be no pheasants if it wasn't for shooting. Latest poll: Do you think that banning hunting and the subsequent requirement to police the ban is a good use of police resources? No 62% Yes 33% Don’t know 4% Do you think that animal rights activists should be allowed to take the law into their own hands for the purpose of protecting wild animals? No 85% Yes 13% Don’t know 2% That's funny, dune. You usually source all of your 'facts'. Shall I tell them which unbiased source this poll is from or do you want to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 That's funny, dune. You usually source all of your 'facts'. Shall I tell them which unbiased source this poll is from or do you want to? I can only imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 Marie Antoinette and Tsar Nicholas II underestimated 'the masses'. So they did and what did the masses do when they got into power? Thats right turned out to be just as f ucked up as the people they got rid of. The terror was hardly a good advert for people power, neither were the soviets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 I guarantee you that every single supermarket, restaurant, shopping centre etc etc that you have ever visited poisons the rats for you. It's a sure way to lose customers to have those rats running free around the tables while you're trying to eat your dinner, or have them running up and down the aisles whilst your doing your weekly shop. Rats are vermin - so are foxes - and are controlled mercilessly, mainly by poisoning, which isn't a pleasant way to go! I would rather a load of rich people got on horseback and chased the rats around the shopping centre. Why don't they do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 So they did and what did the masses do when they got into power? Thats right turned out to be just as f ucked up as the people they got rid of. The terror was hardly a good advert for people power, neither were the soviets. That's as maybe, but it serves as a warning to pretentious social wannabes like Dunce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 I am with you on this one Dune regarding fox hunting and pheasants. If you don't live in the country then you struggle to get your head around it all, the first time you get bloodied after a kill is better than sex, having blood dripping off your face simple gives you the horn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 Tally Bally Ho! All that ******** needs to be done away with; the countryside needs to be modernised socially. Coming from said countryside I am licensed to comment on the state of it before dunce pipes up. What because yopu watch Emmerdale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 I guarantee you that every single supermarket, restaurant, shopping centre etc etc that you have ever visited poisons the rats for you. It's a sure way to lose customers to have those rats running free around the tables while you're trying to eat your dinner, or have them running up and down the aisles whilst your doing your weekly shop. Rats are vermin - so are foxes - and are controlled mercilessly, mainly by poisoning, which isn't a pleasant way to go! I am aware that there are nasty little mouse like things called rats, and that they are killed as vermin. However it doesn't mean that it's right to kill animals for the fun of it. It's the killing for enjoyment I have issue with not the method of killing. Foxes should be controlled when they are being a pest in the most humane way possible, not ripped apart by dogs because it's something "fun" to do on a bank holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 I am aware that there are nasty little mouse like things called rats, and that they are killed as vermin. However it doesn't mean that it's right to kill animals for the fun of it. It's the killing for enjoyment I have issue with not the method of killing. Foxes should be controlled when they are being a pest in the most humane way possible, not ripped apart by dogs because it's something "fun" to do on a bank holiday. Agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 27 December, 2010 Share Posted 27 December, 2010 What because yopu watch Emmerdale? No, because I come from the countryside cretin, HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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