benjii Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 Alpine's footballing knowledge is there for all to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 welcomed back and carried on where he left off at Millwall..doh! Shhhh, it's not allowed for Alpine to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 welcomed back and carried on where he left off at Millwall..doh! uh oh, is alpine wrong again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamyCM Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 A guess we will wait and see Adkins put him straight back in the team and by the sounds of it had a decent game and possibly should have had a goal if oxo had given him the ball. He is still only 24 and I think he has a chance on Tuesday if he gets a game to prove that he wants to play in league one for the moment. My mate works up at Millwall and said that Puncheon looked a class above their midfield and got 5 goals in 7 games. Adkins will do the right thing with him and I trust him to make the call whether to keep him or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoateallthepies Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 That small minority are responsible for a lot more problems than Puncheon, including the whole demise of SFC from 2004. Best joke of the year so far!!!!!!!! Put that aside for the most ridiculous comment on the site awards 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 Alpine is on suicide watch after 4 victories on the spin. A confident Puncheon is an asset to any League 1 side, hopefully we keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 I thought Puncheon was poo earlier in the season & was not worthy of his place in the side. Today, he played well & as long as his attitude is spot on he can stay if he is also prepared to fight for his place in the side. Mind you I am wondering if Adkins played him today & will for the rest of the month to keep AOC out of the spotlight??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 uh oh, is alpine wrong again In fairness I don't think many would have predicted Puncheon coming back, Adkins starting him and then the excellent, hard working team performance that the player put in. One of the many highlights of the afternoon for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 Puncheon was superb today and it says a lot for the character of the guy to come back in and play so well knowing that some of our less intelligent fans would have ready to criticise any mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 Puncheon was superb today and it says a lot for the character of the guy to come back in and play so well knowing that some of our less intelligent fans would have ready to criticise any mistake. The Northam seemed quick to get behind him, which was pleasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 The Northam seemed quick to get behind him, which was pleasing. I expect it has more to do with the fact that it was not holding the usual ST holding Northam mongs TBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokingFun Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 I think a more central role suits him much better than being a typical winger. He can influence the game more from there rather than relying on pace and crossing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 I expect it has more to do with the fact that it was not holding the usual ST holding Northam mongs TBF a little harsh, smirker? What was the crowd like generally today, I was stuck in the shop (again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 Adkins is a trained and experienced Sports psychologist, something that shouldn't be underestimated or forgotten when thinking about how he deals with players. Whether or not we agree or understand what he does and why he does it, I'm sure he knows what he is doing and which players need a gentle push in the right direction. This. NA sent him out on loan and then, after the Exeter game, when questioned about transfer activity and, in particular Puncheon, he replied " He's our boy, let's get him back and see where we go from there". Playing him today Cup tied him, not an error on NA's part but a statement of intent. He will work on and with Puncheon. NA will improve him, of that I am sure and today was just a taster of what JP is capable of. He played well and was busy all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 The Northam seemed quick to get behind him, which was pleasing. I was also very surprised by that. I have misjudged many of you. Well done. I am not sure if he heard the backing, especially the Puncheon song, but he certainly must have thought he might have got some stick but didn't. Back slaps all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 The transfer window is still open for a few weeks. Puncheon may have come back with a clean slate determined to have a go, or it could be that the club and player are simply keeping him in the shop window. I think it is far too early for the smug "told you so" comments emanating from the likes of NickG after one match. Lets see if he maintains his form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 The transfer window is still open for a few weeks. Puncheon may have come back with a clean slate determined to have a go, or it could be that the club and player are simply keeping him in the shop window. I think it is far too early for the smug "told you so" comments emanating from the likes of NickG after one match. Lets see if he maintains his form. I think the shop window is more likely than a sudden injection of team spirit. Having said that if he has decided to start afresh and is going to give his best and toe the line he would be a big asset giving us cover for several positions. He made a great lung bursting run to get up alongside Chamberlain and create an open goal, only messed up by Chamberlain going for unlikely glory rather than looking up and giving Puncheon an easy third goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 I think the shop window is more likely than a sudden injection of team spirit. Having said that if he has decided to start afresh and is going to give his best and toe the line he would be a big asset giving us cover for several positions. He made a great lung bursting run to get up alongside Chamberlain and create an open goal, only messed up by Chamberlain going for unlikely glory rather than looking up and giving Puncheon an easy third goal. Indeed, the next few weeks will be very revealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 A minor ITK from me on Punch direct from the dressing room. Post match in the channon suite we had the pleasure of listening to Lee Barnatd being interviewed. One question related to Punch's contribution; Lee said and I quote "we were all surprised to see him come back" If his inclusion was just to put him in the shop window and let others know that he IS NOT going to The Den then well done Nigel. If, as I suspect, he's been told to show us what he can do (and unquestionably did) as 1st choice then it is Alex O-C who now has to show how he can deal with the disappointment of playing second fiddle; far more influential than young AOC. Whatever I have a sneaky that we'll cash in on the young gun and invest it in the squad. NB I am not in any way ITK, just more perceptive andf in tune with phsycology than everyone else. (joke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 I think it is far too early for the smug "told you so" comments emanating from the likes of NickG after one match. Lets see if he maintains his form. I agree alpine. Do you not ever think however that sometimes some of your rather judgemental and dismissive comments come too soon? Sadly you attract the replies because of the way in which you often state things yourself. 'Complete fantasy ********' for example? Anyway, everyone's a winner if he stays and continues like he played today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 Adkins was desperate to rest Chamberlain so Puncheon was the natural replacement. Nothing ot do with shop windows from the clubs point of view. On Puncheons side he showed he is a professional and played his usual game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 Good to see that he put some effort in today and a good performance. Showed a lot of character and a definite step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 (edited) lol Edited 9 January, 2011 by Cestrian Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 Adkins was desperate to rest Chamberlain so Puncheon was the natural replacement. Nothing ot do with shop windows from the clubs point of view. On Puncheons side he showed he is a professional and played his usual game. His usual Millwall game I'd say. Just left of centre seems to suit him down to the ground. The question is, can we play with two behind the strikers? The ansewer clearly is yes, yes we can. What he needs to learn and accept is that it's horses for courses and sometimes we need to overcome hurdles and sometimes we are on the flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 His usual Millwall game I'd say. What I meant by that was showing a tremendous first touch, silky in posesion, a very languide style, better on the ball than off, poor tackling, workrate to find space, but maybe not quite as much when tackling back, some wonderful weighted passes and some intecepted overambitous passes. I didn't think he was a million times better than his last game for us, but I didn't think he was playing that bad when we shipped him out. Poor early on in the season, but IMO muc improved once he started passing quicker (after getting some stick from fans). I'm still not convinced he will stay, although I don't think Millwall can afford him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 /\ He works extremely hard to get possesion but we can't have a team of players like that, someone with natural awareness like DoPrado complements him perfectly imho. Oxo on the bench is my persoanl prefference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 9 January, 2011 Share Posted 9 January, 2011 I do find it funny that Adkins saw punch as surplus to requirements and seemingly didnt rate him but his goal fest in the millwall side has made Adkins do a u-turn... Like a kid not wanting to play with a certain toy until some other kid picks it up and finds it fun.... Think he'll stay with a little bit of ass kissing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 9 January, 2011 Share Posted 9 January, 2011 I do find it funny that Adkins saw punch as surplus to requirements and seemingly didnt rate him but his goal fest in the millwall side has made Adkins do a u-turn... Like a kid not wanting to play with a certain toy until some other kid picks it up and finds it fun.... Think he'll stay with a little bit of ass kissing. I don't think that is the case at all. I think Puncheon's attitude, not his ability was the reason Adkins shipped him out. As others have now said, this could have been a master stroke. Fair play to Puncheon, who I thought had a good game yesterday. If has come back to knuckle down and work for the squad, and accept that he might not always be first choice, it could be like another new signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 9 January, 2011 Share Posted 9 January, 2011 I thought Puncheon was poo earlier in the season & was not worthy of his place in the side. Today, he played well & as long as his attitude is spot on he can stay if he is also prepared to fight for his place in the side. I think the main difference at Saints in recent weeks is that we no longer have a "first XI" and some subs, we have a first team squad of about 18 (Nige calls them his group of players). They won't all get to play in every game, but they will all feature significantly in the campaign. Punch has a guaranteed place in that group, if he wants to take it. I hope he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 9 January, 2011 Share Posted 9 January, 2011 I do find it funny that Adkins saw punch as surplus to requirements and seemingly didnt rate him but his goal fest in the millwall side has made Adkins do a u-turn... Like a kid not wanting to play with a certain toy until some other kid picks it up and finds it fun.... Think he'll stay with a little bit of ass kissing. If that gets him playing well and gets us promoted that will be worth it don't you think??? Its called man management - some need an arm round them , some need a kick up the arse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 9 January, 2011 Share Posted 9 January, 2011 I do find it funny that Adkins saw punch as surplus to requirements and seemingly didnt rate him but his goal fest in the millwall side has made Adkins do a u-turn... Like a kid not wanting to play with a certain toy until some other kid picks it up and finds it fun.... Think he'll stay with a little bit of ass kissing. Adkins has never not rated Punch. He shipped him out to get regular game time and improve his attitude and it appears to have worked. It'll be great if we keep hold of him and he continues his good form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torsaint Posted 9 January, 2011 Share Posted 9 January, 2011 One look at the Millwall set-up compared with ours would have told him he's better off here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 9 January, 2011 Share Posted 9 January, 2011 Even if we are intending to sell him, this helps with negotiating. Adkins made a statement yesterday that Puncheon is a first team player - not someone who is going to be sat here waiting for an offer. If Millwall thought he had burnt his bridges and could get him cheap they are wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 9 January, 2011 Share Posted 9 January, 2011 Millwall boss Kenny Jackett has hopes of signing Southampton winger Jason Puncheon. For their FA Cup defeat to Birmingham City, the Lions boss said his side had been hampered by the absence of Jason Puncheon, who returned to Southampton this week after scoring five goals in a month-long loan spell, and admits he wants the midfielder back at the New Den. The winger has also attracted interest from Newcastle United. "Jason scored five goals in seven matches and he is under contract at Southampton," Jackett said. "We are keen on Jason. We'll see what comes about in terms of who's out there. He is still a target." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 9 January, 2011 Share Posted 9 January, 2011 A minor ITK from me on Punch direct from the dressing room. Post match in the channon suite we had the pleasure of listening to Lee Barnatd being interviewed. One question related to Punch's contribution; Lee said and I quote "we were all surprised to see him come back" If his inclusion was just to put him in the shop window and let others know that he IS NOT going to The Den then well done Nigel. If, as I suspect, he's been told to show us what he can do (and unquestionably did) as 1st choice then it is Alex O-C who now has to show how he can deal with the disappointment of playing second fiddle; far more influential than young AOC. Whatever I have a sneaky that we'll cash in on the young gun and invest it in the squad. NB I am not in any way ITK, just more perceptive andf in tune with phsycology than everyone else. (joke) My personnal opinion is that Chamberlain is the more likely player to go (Arsenal ??) In that case, it would be vital that Puncheon remains IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 9 January, 2011 Share Posted 9 January, 2011 will really need him if Alex goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Angel Gabriel Posted 9 January, 2011 Share Posted 9 January, 2011 will really need him if Alex goes. We will need a replacement winger if Alex goes. Punch isn't a winger. Looked so much better in the middle. Maybe the reason for the loan was Punch rocking the boat by complaining about being played on the wing. He was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 31 August, 2011 Share Posted 31 August, 2011 Just a quick update - I heard a rumour he's going to QPR any minute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monosaint Posted 31 August, 2011 Share Posted 31 August, 2011 SKY just showed Puncheon legging it in to QPR's reception to close the deal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 31 August, 2011 Share Posted 31 August, 2011 SSN saying he's signed for QPR but can't see anything official Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 31 August, 2011 Share Posted 31 August, 2011 Still hasn't been confirmed by QPR that the paperwork went through yet, which is a strange one as they have confirmed for other signings. Reckon it must have been right on the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 August, 2011 Share Posted 31 August, 2011 Hope it's actually a fee and not another loan. If they paid our asking price we're laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 31 August, 2011 Share Posted 31 August, 2011 Apparently proposed move is a loan til January with a fee agreed for a permenant move. They're not sure whether the paperwork went through on time, might not be confirmed (or otherwise) until tomorrow morning. Part of me does find it quite funny he might have to play a few more months with the youth team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 August, 2011 Share Posted 31 August, 2011 Apparently proposed move is a loan til January with a fee agreed for a permenant move. They're not sure whether the paperwork went through on time, might not be confirmed (or otherwise) until tomorrow morning. Part of me does find it quite funny he might have to play a few more months with the youth team. and after all the crap Warnock came out with about us hanging around on the Goorks deal, they didn't leave the Puncheon move till the last minute at all did they??? Hypocrites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 31 August, 2011 Share Posted 31 August, 2011 Seriously hope NC has held firm again and got a decent fee for puncheon, not a loan. Anything above a million and were laughing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 31 August, 2011 Share Posted 31 August, 2011 lol at the first line of his Wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Puncheon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 No indication the loan went through, did the SWP deal stop QPR taking him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Sky Sports News are reporting this as being complete for an undisclosed fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 yup, just saw tha too. bye!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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