Chamberlain to Arsenal or Liverpool £10m

[aintforever]

FWIW NC may not have a say in it, in this age of football, once a player wants out, then he's gone, simple.

 

It's true that players generally get their own way but if Cortese decides he doesn't want to sell then he doesn't have to.

 

It's not the typical situation. There havn't been many League 1 clubs owned by billionaires before, there will be a limit to what anyone will pay for a League 1 player, if that limit falls below Saints' valuation then he wont go anywhere IMO.

[Smirking_Saint]

Bale yes, but when did Walcott take charge of games when playing for us? He certainly lit up a game but Chamberlain does that also. People should not under estimate the quality of this lad. He is top notch and finding a `pacey replacement' is not going to be easy. Losing him could seriously effect our rise through the divisions because he could do some serious damage in the championship next season. Tell me what winger is going to be available to us that will do that?

 

TBH i would agree with that.

 

Its pretty much how i would have responded to Joensuu's post in a similar manner if i had seen it earlier, Walcott never really grabbed any games by the scruff of the neck and definately didn't run any games. How many did he start ? I really don't know TBF. But if i remember rightly he didn't start every game and certainly was not relied upon as much as AOC seems to be this season. The boy for me anyways, seems to have more about him then the slap dash play that Walcott had. For instance, when i saw Waclott for the first time i remember thinking 'Jesus, this boy is quick' but i remember thinking he was raw. With Chambo though i remember thinking 'This boy can play' and thats the difference for me, Walcott is first and foremost an athlete, take away away his pace and he is half the player. Chambo is better on the ball, has a better brain and better technique, all IMO anyways.

 

Bale was something else, the fact that he genuinely ran games for us and from left back, LEFT BACK. Bale in my mind at the time i thought would always go on to bigger and better things.

[gazd83]

Aside from Man City, not many teams are splashing the cash at present. I can't imagine anyone would take a risk with 10m right now on a player that may nit be ready for regular premier league football for another few yrs. The prem is so open this yr that clubs need experience and proven talent that may give them the edge over the others. AOC may be one to watch but now isn't his time, there is too much up for grabs inthe prem with 4 possible league winners still.

[JackanorySFC]

TBH i would agree with that.

 

Its pretty much how i would have responded to Joensuu's post in a similar manner if i had seen it earlier, Walcott never really grabbed any games by the scruff of the neck and definately didn't run any games. How many did he start ? I really don't know TBF. But if i remember rightly he didn't start every game and certainly was not relied upon as much as AOC seems to be this season. The boy for me anyways, seems to have more about him then the slap dash play that Walcott had. For instance, when i saw Waclott for the first time i remember thinking 'Jesus, this boy is quick' but i remember thinking he was raw. With Chambo though i remember thinking 'This boy can play' and thats the difference for me, Walcott is first and foremost an athlete, take away away his pace and he is half the player. Chambo is better on the ball, has a better brain and better technique, all IMO anyways.

 

Bale was something else, the fact that he genuinely ran games for us and from left back, LEFT BACK. Bale in my mind at the time i thought would always go on to bigger and better things.

 

Completely disagree, when we had Walcott he was the most exciting teenager in Europe. Barceona, Real, Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal all wanted him and it wasn't because he "was quick" and "raw". It was because he was England U18's best player at 15, and the most exciting young player in England.

 

I suppose the proof will be if at 21 years old AOC has scored goals in cup finals, big Champions Leaue 1/4 and semi finals, a Hat Trick in England's most important win since the Germany 5-1 game, scare the cr4p out of the greatest footballing team since Brazil '70 (Barcelona last season) and start regulary and be one of the top scorers for the best footballing team in England (Arsenal).

 

Personally I'm proud we produced a player as good as Walcott, for the few Months he was playing regulary he was the most exciting player on the ball I've seen since Matty. The lad had the opportunity to get a footballing education from Henry, Fabregas and Wenger - injurys or not, seems to have worked out pretty well for him I'd say!

[Thedelldays]

Completely disagree, when we had Walcott he was the most exciting teenager in Europe. Barceona, Real, Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal all wanted him and it wasn't because he "was quick" and "raw". It was because he was England U18's best player at 15, and the most exciting young player in England.

 

I suppose the proof will be if at 21 years old AOC has scored goals in cup finals, big Champions Leaue 1/4 and semi finals, a Hat Trick in England's most important win since the Germany 5-1 game, scare the cr4p out of the greatest footballing team since Brazil '70 (Barcelona last season) and start regulary and be one of the top scorers for the best footballing team in England (Arsenal).

 

Personally I'm proud we produced a player as good as Walcott, for the few Months he was playing regulary he was the most exciting player on the ball I've seen since Matty. The lad had the opportunity to get a footballing education from Henry, Fabregas and Wenger - injurys or not, seems to have worked out pretty well for him I'd say!

 

completely agree...Theo has been very good this year..was red hot till he got injured (again) earlier this season and then had to wait for his chance again to get back into the team..and he has been very good again..

 

the way he terrorised ashely cole the other day and the way he took his goal was excellent...no matter how bad chelsea are playing, cole is still an excellent LB...

 

if you notice, theo is getting more and more into central positions coming in from the right...no way is he a winger and nor should he be...playing as a right sided forward but being able to move along the forward line is a great position for him..

 

he is a very good player and things happen when he is on the pitch

[Thedelldays]

Nicola Cortese has emphasised that we are no longer a selling club.

 

If Chamberlain or Lallana are sold it would be a serious breach of trust between we fans and the ownership, confirming that all the rhetoric and hyperbole about returning to our rightful place in the Premier League within (now) 3 1/2 years was nothing but brazen barefaced bull**** from the start. This would be one hell of a gamble on the part of the ownership as nobody would ever believe another word they spoke. It just wouldn't do to say "we had no choice as the player wanted to go... "

 

I once vowed that if Lowe returned I would not set foot in the ground again whilst he remained involved - I was true to my word.

 

If these two players are sold, I will be gone for good and there will be plenty more like me.

you are such a moron..you really cannot wait for the day lallana/AOC move on so you can start laying into the chairman

 

why do you bother to support saints...seriously

 

guess what, pretty certain that one day lallana and AOC will be sold...

 

the term "not a selling club"..generally means that there is no need to sell for financial reasons....does not mean players wont be sold....then of course, you know that but you just cant wait for the next time you can lay into the owner

 

you are a complete ****

[hypochondriac]

Bale yes, but when did Walcott take charge of games when playing for us? He certainly lit up a game but Chamberlain does that also. People should not under estimate the quality of this lad. He is top notch and finding a `pacey replacement' is not going to be easy. Losing him could seriously effect our rise through the divisions because he could do some serious damage in the championship next season. Tell me what winger is going to be available to us that will do that?

 

Couldn't disagree more. He is no Walcott.

[hypochondriac]

Completely disagree, when we had Walcott he was the most exciting teenager in Europe. Barceona, Real, Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal all wanted him and it wasn't because he "was quick" and "raw". It was because he was England U18's best player at 15, and the most exciting young player in England.

 

I suppose the proof will be if at 21 years old AOC has scored goals in cup finals, big Champions Leaue 1/4 and semi finals, a Hat Trick in England's most important win since the Germany 5-1 game, scare the cr4p out of the greatest footballing team since Brazil '70 (Barcelona last season) and start regulary and be one of the top scorers for the best footballing team in England (Arsenal).

 

Personally I'm proud we produced a player as good as Walcott, for the few Months he was playing regulary he was the most exciting player on the ball I've seen since Matty. The lad had the opportunity to get a footballing education from Henry, Fabregas and Wenger - injurys or not, seems to have worked out pretty well for him I'd say!

 

Now that is the most sensible post on here!

[Joensuu]

Bale yes, but when did Walcott take charge of games when playing for us? He certainly lit up a game but Chamberlain does that also. People should not under estimate the quality of this lad. He is top notch and finding a `pacey replacement' is not going to be easy. Losing him could seriously effect our rise through the divisions because he could do some serious damage in the championship next season. Tell me what winger is going to be available to us that will do that?

 

TBH i would agree with that.

 

Its pretty much how i would have responded to Joensuu's post in a similar manner if i had seen it earlier, Walcott never really grabbed any games by the scruff of the neck and definately didn't run any games. How many did he start ? I really don't know TBF. But if i remember rightly he didn't start every game and certainly was not relied upon as much as AOC seems to be this season. The boy for me anyways, seems to have more about him then the slap dash play that Walcott had. For instance, when i saw Waclott for the first time i remember thinking 'Jesus, this boy is quick' but i remember thinking he was raw. With Chambo though i remember thinking 'This boy can play' and thats the difference for me, Walcott is first and foremost an athlete, take away away his pace and he is half the player. Chambo is better on the ball, has a better brain and better technique, all IMO anyways.

 

Bale was something else, the fact that he genuinely ran games for us and from left back, LEFT BACK. Bale in my mind at the time i thought would always go on to bigger and better things.

 

I partially agree with both of your responses to my post. Yes, Theo never took a game by the scruff of the neck like Bale did, but he wasn't just pace and nothing else. Theo had some of the best ball control in the team at that time. I remember seeing him and Dyer play together, and the difference in class was obvious. Both were exceptionally fast, but Dyer had little control over the ball, whereas Theo had skills to match his speed. In the Championship games Theo played for us he was easily the classiest player on the pitch, he was marked and feared by the opposition, but still found the net and made opportunities. All the top clubs wanted his signature.

 

Theo might not have bossed games, but he was by far the most dynamic player on the pitch, and forced all our opponants to focus their efforts around preventing him from playing. In this way Theo took control of the games he was involved in for us (if he was substituted either on or off, the oppostion would completely change their line up).

 

Theo's ball control, flair and other key skills, might have been masked by his raw pace, but they certainly weren't as weak as you seem to be suggesting. In fact, skillful as AOC is, I would argue he is only on a par with Theo for skill (at the same age), but lacks the blistering pace that set Theo apart. AOC is a superb talent, but I just can't see quite the same raw promise in him that I could see in both Bale and Walcott.

 

I guess the difference is, every time Alex gets the ball St Mary's is hopeful, whereas every time Theo got the ball St Mary's was expectant.

[del boy]

Completely disagree, when we had Walcott he was the most exciting teenager in Europe. Barceona, Real, Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal all wanted him and it wasn't because he "was quick" and "raw". It was because he was England U18's best player at 15, and the most exciting young player in England.

 

I suppose the proof will be if at 21 years old AOC has scored goals in cup finals, big Champions Leaue 1/4 and semi finals, a Hat Trick in England's most important win since the Germany 5-1 game, scare the cr4p out of the greatest footballing team since Brazil '70 (Barcelona last season) and start regulary and be one of the top scorers for the best footballing team in England (Arsenal).

 

Personally I'm proud we produced a player as good as Walcott, for the few Months he was playing regulary he was the most exciting player on the ball I've seen since Matty. The lad had the opportunity to get a footballing education from Henry, Fabregas and Wenger - injurys or not, seems to have worked out pretty well for him I'd say!

 

I though we had filters on here to stop this sort of comment getting through.

I'm sure this post doesn't fall into the knee jerk, attention seeking, insulting to prove a more worthy supporter, completely not ITK while claiming to be, or your view doesn't count because its not the same as mine categories that we normally comply with?

On a serious note - excellent point, and good luck to Theo. We should be realistic, and pleased for these guys, even if they don't play for Saints, as disappointing as that might be.

[Window Cleaner]

I though we had filters on here to stop this sort of comment getting through.

I'm sure this post doesn't fall into the knee jerk, attention seeking, insulting to prove a more worthy supporter, completely not ITK while claiming to be, or your view doesn't count because its not the same as mine categories that we normally comply with?

On a serious note - excellent point, and good luck to Theo. We should be realistic, and pleased for these guys, even if they don't play for Saints, as disappointing as that might be.

 

don't get your drift, why should a poster's opinion be filtered out;

I also believe that given our current status young players with real promise should be allowed to leave if the price is right.

One has a moral obligation to "be all you can be" and they'll be better players at Arsenal or Barcelona.

[Scudamore]

Couldn't disagree more. He is no Walcott.

 

Agreed. He can cross a ball for one thing. Be interesting to see how he gets on against a Premier League fullback this weekend. I'd be very surprised if he's kept in the pocket.

 

Should probably point out that I'm not having a go at Walcott there. But AOC offers many different facets to a game of football (what a touch the boy has) than Theo so constantly comparing the two is pretty pointless in my eyes. Oh and Walcott's crossing technique of pulling the ball back along the floor 9 times out of 10 without even looking up suggests more luck than judgement when somebody does get on the end of it. But then I think he's destined to play up front because of this. Just wondering when Arsene's gonna get on with it and do it.

[Thedelldays]

Agreed. He can cross a ball for one thing. Be interesting to see how he gets on against a Premier League fullback this weekend. I'd be very surprised if he's kept in the pocket.

 

Should probably point out that I'm not having a go at Walcott there. But AOC offers many different facets to a game of football (what a touch the boy has) than Theo so constantly comparing the two is pretty pointless in my eyes. Oh and Walcott's crossing technique of pulling the ball back along the floor 9 times out of 10 without even looking up suggests more luck than judgement when somebody does get on the end of it. But then I think he's destined to play up front because of this. Just wondering when Arsene's gonna get on with it and do it.

he does play up front for arsenal

[saintmatt]

apologies if already posted but... http://www.skysports.com/football/transfers/scout

 

pace only 9???

[JackanorySFC]

apologies if already posted but... http://www.skysports.com/football/transfers/scout

 

pace only 9???

 

Yep, makes sense really. I'd put him in a similar pace bracket as Lennon and Dyer - ie rapid! That's 9/10. However Theo Walcott is the yardstick for a 10/10 - ie World Class sprinter standard.

[Saint_Ash]

He's going nowhere!

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11700_6639421,00.html

[moon monkey]

I am very distressed and upset about this. Why is Adkins talking to the star of all papers?

[Miltonaggro]

Until we are back in the Premier League we are always going to run the risk of losing talented youngsters. Of course we can make it difficult for the player to leave and difficult for the courting club, but ultimately we cannot pay a 20 year old £40K per week in the third division and unsettle all of the senior pros at the club. When we are back in the Premier League it will be easier for us to compete, but until then this is going to be a sword of Damacles every time we have a good player in a transfer window.

 

One thing is certain, Cortese will squeeze whatever club attempts to sign AL or AC until the pips squeak and every penny will go back into the team...

[merrimd]

10 million. hmmm. We are looking to build a squad capable of competing for promotion from the championship. What would be more beneficial. A 17 year old who, whilst very good, is no world beater at the moment, or 3 or 4 proven quality championship players? I know what I would prefer. So whilst its great to have these youngsters coming in, if silly money is offered, we should take it imho.

[angelman]

£10m is obviously a message to say not bothering to offer peanuts and if you want to buy him then a decent offer has to be made.

 

Why would anyone pay a huge amount on a young kid like this? I see 2 reasons:

 

1) In case one of your competitors buys him and he does turn out to be good.

 

2) I think, within the framework of EU law, going to be a bigger and bigger requirement to have English players in your match day squad. The rules now say that the PL has to have 8 home grown players in your 25 squad, and I can see this getting tougher. At the moment howe grown is quite a loose term as Fabrigas counts as home grown cos he's been here from a young age.