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Andy_Porter

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They won't. But the keeper situation is purely wengers stubbornness as he wants to produce a young keeper or improve one to top class standards. Not sure it's a good idea. A casillas comes along very rarely, big clubs need to spend on keepers and get it right. Experience is a huge asset. No idea why he didn't try for given. Even premiership experience like Howard, Robinson or schwarzer would be better than almunia or fabianski.

 

The kid against man utd didn't do anything wrong though in his first game.

 

Probably because he's one of the most over-rated keepers going, very similar to Davis as he's a fantastic shot-stopper but doesn't do much else.

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krissyboy31

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"The coaching staff rate him more highly than Theo Walcott at the same age" Is that the same coaching staff or different coaching staff then... Just asking.

 

Anyway sounds like agent talk to me, yes I know that his dad is his agent.

 

Sounds like they've been at the cooking sherry a little early this Christmas, if you ask me!!! None of the present coaching staff, with the exception of Doddsy were here when Theo was that age and anyway, hadn't he already been sold for £10million plus by then?

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...In passing heard a bit of interesting news today (although it goes back to Friday) Did you all know that David Jones has been appointed financial director at Plymouth Argyle??

 

It was in the papers last week

http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/football/Argyle-hire-Jones-combat-cash-crisis/article-3017384-detail/article.html

The spokesman confirmed Jones would be joining Argyle on a temporary basis, but the Pilgrims have been unable to say if he would be paid for his involvement. The spokesman added: "David will helping with the day-to-day responsibilities of running the club whilst former financial officer Tom Kristensen continues to assist with the refinancing of the business."

Temporary appointment.

 

 

Jones, who survived several boardroom shuffles during his time at the Hampshire club, had his appointment as a Saints' director terminated in late October.

Pushed then.

 

 

Argyle are searching for £760,000 to pay a tax bill by February 9. If the money cannot be raised, the Pilgrims could be wound up in court and go into liquidation.

Wouldn't it be better for them to appoint somebody from Cheats FC to help them ? say Comical Andy.

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Dr Who?

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I have said all along, IF we are not in a stong position when the transfer window opens, or promoted at the end of the season we will lose Lallana, and Oxo without a doubt. I can see Fonte, and spiderman leaving to. I think there will be a lot of changes, but IF we go up then I believe they will all rally round and see how we fair in the Championship.

 

Please let us go up, please please please!!

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Cabrone

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I am really glad that no-one on this board is responsible for negotiating transfers. You'd probably have sold Walcott for £500k because he was just a kid and any money for him would be a bonus. We don't need the money so why sell? If the "big" teams want him then they'll have to cough up. Its not what he's worth to us that counts in this negotiation - its what he's deemed to be worth to them.

 

Harsh reality is that £4M + is very good money for a kid who has only played a handful of games in league 1. Please note that I said at least £4M.

 

Also £4M, if spent wisely could all but secure our exit from this division - something that is far from certain at the moment.

 

Then you'd have to factor in the extra revenue from promotion which should go a long way to negating any potential revenue we could get by holding on to the lad.

 

I like AOC, he's been a breath of fresh air in what has otherwise been a fairly disappointing season to date but we are league 1 and if one of the big boys does come knocking he'll go I'm afraid.

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I am really glad that no-one on this board is responsible for negotiating transfers. You'd probably have sold Walcott for £500k because he was just a kid and any money for him would be a bonus. We don't need the money so why sell? If the "big" teams want him then they'll have to cough up. Its not what he's worth to us that counts in this negotiation - its what he's deemed to be worth to them.
of course the big clubs haven't any brains and will pay 3 times his worth Lol.

At present they would be buying potential, and whilst he has a great deal of pace and seems to have a footballing brain, he is not ripping teams apart and quite frankly he looked out of his depth in the brighton game. i am allc for developing talent but if it means sacrificing a young player to get some more experienced players in who can get us promotion then do it.

I also do not believe that we will not spend much in Jan as we seem to be running on income earned not a nice wedge of money given to us by the Liebherr family.

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sandwichsaint

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Run this by me again... Arsenal or Liverpool will give us 10mGBP for AoC and some say 'we are not a selling club'?

 

That money would (easily) see us back to the prem; more realistically I would take 1m for him (fat chance of anybody paying that sort of fee up front ) and use it to buy a proven RW and two strikers, = 'guaranteed promo' = start again in NPC.

 

Most of the players we have now are nowhere as good as we make them out to be, looking that promo is our main objective, and looking at goals scored so far, it would be prudent right now to swap AoC for Pugh!

 

10m my Rse!!

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SaintJackoInHurworth

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I have to say there are some simplistic arguments on here... people argue that if we accept £10m or £3-4m we would then be able to go out and buy a team to get ourselves to the Prem. Excuse me, but as I understand it, having the money to buy the right players is not the issue! The issue is finding the right players who are prepared to drop down to League 1 to play!

 

Ultimately, the sort of players we would want should we sell AOC are currently playing in the CCC or Prem. Those sort of players are not going to wish to drop to L1 level, no matter what money is being offered.

 

If we are to mount a bid for promotion, we need first and foremost to keep hold of our best players. Then, maybe if we can find one or two purchases who might improve the team or at least the squad, then maybe we can become serious contenders. Otherwise, we end up with an unsettled squad who don't know each other and we have to waste more time molding the squad together.

 

My hope is that whatever is offered we will not sell. My assumption is that comments about the need to pay crazy money in order to be able to purchase AOC or others are to keep Prem and CC teams from knocking on the door and unsettling our players.

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more realistically I would take 1m for him (fat chance of anybody paying that sort of fee up front ) and use it to buy a proven RW and two strikers, = 'guaranteed promo' = start again in NPC.

 

Why would you take £1m? The guy has shown in four months that he has the pace, tricks, composure and the first touch to enable him to play at a much higher level. You don't get that on the cheap unless the selling club is on its knees.

 

These proven strikers you talk about, who are they?

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Matthew Le God

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Jonjo Shelvey was sold to Liverpool in a deal reported to be worth up to £5m. At the time, Charlton Athletic were desperate for cash to avoid administration, Shelvey was still only a bit part player for them in League One. Yet people happy to see Chamberlain sold by a financially very secure club for as little as £4m or even £1m!? Unlike Charlton, Saints aren't desperate for cash and are in a stronger position in the negotiations.

 

Chamberlain recently signed a 3 year deal, he may have 15 years left as a professional for any new club, Saints will spend on players regardless of if he is sold or not. It therefore makes no business sense to sell him unless the bid is absolutely huge. If true that the top English clubs like Arsenal and Liverpool think he has the potential to play for their first teams then it is clear they think highly of him and is very valuable indeed. I'm glad none of you lot are running Saints and selling players like Chamberlain for £1m - £4m.

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Jonjo Shelvey was sold to Liverpool in a deal reported to be worth up to £5m. At the time, Charlton Athletic were desperate for cash to avoid administration, Shelvey was still only a bit part player for them in League One. Yet people happy to see Chamberlain sold by a financially very secure club for as little as £4m or even £1m!? Unlike Charlton, Saints aren't desperate for cash and are in a stronger position in the negotiations.

 

Chamberlain recently signed a 3 year deal, he may have 15 years left as a professional for any new club, Saints will spend on players regardless of if he is sold or not. It therefore makes no business sense to sell him unless the bid is absolutely huge. If true that the top English clubs like Arsenal and Liverpool think he has the potential to play for their first teams then it is clear they think highly of him and is very valuable indeed. I'm glad none of you lot are running Saints and selling players like Chamberlain for £1m - £4m.

 

Really depends on what we bought with the proceeds.

 

If we sold AoC for circa £5M and got say Papa, Antonio, Austin (or equivalent) and possibly Danns in exchange + signed Chaplow on permanent then I think we'd have a much improved chance of CC football next year.

 

Once out of this league we then get more money which would soften the blow.

 

In a perfect world I'd like to keep him but if he was to go and we replaced him with several decent players I'd be OK with that.

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Matthew Le God

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Really depends on what we bought with the proceeds.

 

If we sold AoC for circa £5M and got say Papa, Antonio, Austin (or equivalent) and possibly Danns in exchange + signed Chaplow on permanent then I think we'd have a much improved chance of CC football next year.

 

Once out of this league we then get more money which would soften the blow.

 

In a perfect world I'd like to keep him but if he was to go and we replaced him with several decent players I'd be OK with that.

 

But if Saints were going to strengthen the side anyway regardless of player sales, then it makes no sense to sell him to a club who may then get 15 years service out of him.

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Matthew Le God

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No journalist has the balls to add their name to this unsubstantiated dartboard of news rumour.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1341781/Chelsea-favourites-land-Southampton-starlet-Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain.html

 

Nor can you comment on the story.

 

It is almost as if the Daily Mail knows it is ******** and they are stirring things up with the club and none of the journalists want to have their name credited with it.

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Bailey

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i have it from a very good and reliable source CHELSEA are the favorites to sign him in Jan

 

You mean you read the Daily Mail too!? ;)

 

Seriously though, I'd be surprised if he left in January, but I doubt it'll be too long before we see one of the top four snap him up.

 

I genuinely believe he's a better prospect than Theo at the same age, but only time will tell.

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Chelsea are the only team that would sign him right now. Think about it...It won't be anything other than a top 4 team because nobody will have the funds. City won't want a kid, Spurs will want a first team player...

 

Liverpool's new owner will not be splashing somewhere near 10m on a kid in there first transfer window.

Man United don't need wingers and certainly not ones that will cost such money at not get anywhere near the team.

Arsenal will not be able to justify spending so much on a kid like they did with Theo, when they haven't won anything in 5 years and won't go splashing out such money on first team players, let alone Alex.

Chelsea, they have the money, they wan't to bring through the youth, so he fits that bill, and I don't think they'd care about spending such money on a kid, but I think for 10m, there are better kids out there.

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At the end of the day it would be stupid for him to go this early and he is playing a key role in our team at the moment. But if Chelsea offered £10m then get a small sell-on fee and wave him off. That money would see us into the play-offs in the championship in 2 seasons no problem.

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if he were to go it would need to be very early in jan for the money to have enough impact on the rest of the season, unless of course we were to throw the lot at 1 or 2 replacements which imo would be an added insult to puncheon's situation. then again I expect jp to have already filed a re-direct with the post office.

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Hopkins

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Please stop saying £10m...

 

We will not be getting £10m...

 

This is true actually. But my point still stands, most clubs will not be spending that kind of money on a kid in these times, especially one they can get better than for the same money.

 

He's nowhere near Theo at his age either.

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alehouseboys

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Please stop saying £10m...

 

We will not be getting £10m...

 

Not up front anyway.

 

But having said that, if Chelski seriously are in for him then I'm sure it's only a matter of time before Man City are on the scene offering silly money if only to snatch him away from Stamford Bridge.

 

This could easily end up in a bidding war.

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BBC Gossip column have a story from one of today's papers that Stoke want to sign him. Seemingly Pulis - god,I hate that name - thinks the fact OC's father played there will be a swaying factor!! Stoke...now that would be OC's career going down downhill.

 

I also agree with the forget £10m view; probably rising to that figure,possibly with a couple more Tommy Forecast level players being thrown in until the end of the season.

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Window Cleaner

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We are no longer a selling club

 

Why sell him?

 

We do not need the money

 

The objective is Premiership in the next 4 years ...you dont get that by selling your best young players ...FACT

 

Anyway Arsenal don't need OxC, they need someone to replace the awful Wilshere.Lad can't pass, can't tackle and is never where he should be.If he's England's great one for the future the rest must be really crap.

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Chez

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We are no longer a selling club

 

Why sell him?

 

We do not need the money

 

The objective is Premiership in the next 4 years ...you dont get that by selling your best young players ...FACT

agreed, but I fear our rise through the divisions might be too slow to keep him. Hope not, but his Dad seems slightly uncomittal when talking about his future. Lots of `happy where we are for now' rather than `he's going nowhere'. I suppose he'd be mad to close doors, but I'm not confident of a long stay at ours. He is a tremendous talent and I think he has what it takes to go all the way.
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krissyboy31

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agreed, but I fear our rise through the divisions might be too slow to keep him. Hope not, but his Dad seems slightly uncomittal when talking about his future. Lots of `happy where we are for now' rather than `he's going nowhere'. I suppose he'd be mad to close doors, but I'm not confident of a long stay at ours. He is a tremendous talent and I think he has what it takes to go all the way.

I agree with this. However, I don't think he'll go this transfer window and what happens in the summer is very much dependant on whether we go up.

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