dune Posted 9 December, 2010 Share Posted 9 December, 2010 Good interview by Cortese and a lot of encouraging stuff. It's nice to aspire to be Barcelona. Chorley aspired to be Real Madrid so Nicole is aiming too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 9 December, 2010 Share Posted 9 December, 2010 Chorley aspired to be Real Madrid so Nicole is aiming too low. 5-0 the other night would say otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 9 December, 2010 Share Posted 9 December, 2010 I was surprised by the Pardew exit, I was sceptical of the reasons and whether it would move us forward. Interviews like this though remove that fear and I am 100% behind Cortese again now. He is obviously passionate and believes he is doing what is best for the club. That is good enough for me..Shame he didn't do the interview sooner.... I am optimistic about our future, I will ignore those with the dark agenda and will enjoy the ride to become Champions of Europe! Come on you reds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 9 December, 2010 Share Posted 9 December, 2010 Premier league by 2014. Ha ha ha ha ha. No chance! I'll take that bet if Mr. Cortese is prepared to put his money where his mouth is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 December, 2010 Share Posted 9 December, 2010 (edited) Premier league by 2014. Ha ha ha ha ha. No chance! Why do you find that so unlikely? Have you not noticed most Championship sides are skint and Blackpool were promoted last season? Newly promoted from League One, Norwich and Leeds both challenging for promotion in the Championship this season having not really changed their squads much from last season. Edited 9 December, 2010 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 9 December, 2010 Share Posted 9 December, 2010 Premier league by 2014. Ha ha ha ha ha. No chance! I'll take that bet if Mr. Cortese is prepared to put his money where his mouth is. It's possible. It can be done. We have the backing to do it. Whether it will be done I don't know, but I'm willing to enjoy the ride and give Cortese my full backing. No point laughing at his dream and being negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 December, 2010 Share Posted 9 December, 2010 Premier league by 2014. Ha ha ha ha ha. No chance! I'll take that bet if Mr. Cortese is prepared to put his money where his mouth is. If Blackpool can do it, we can do it. Football is all about living the dream, lets go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 9 December, 2010 Share Posted 9 December, 2010 The thing with league 1 is that it is a very strange league, the top sides are more or less of the same quality as the majority of the NPC sides and the lower league 1 sides are pretty poor. That pretty much means that if you gain promotion from league 1 you are probably at a level to compete in the NPC anyway and with a fair bit of strengthening should be up there. I think it is achievable, but will take us 2 seasons in the NPC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 December, 2010 Share Posted 9 December, 2010 I think it is achievable, but will take us 2 seasons in the NPC. Thats the plan according to the NC interview. First season in Championship aiminmg for top six - which is perfectly doable imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 9 December, 2010 Share Posted 9 December, 2010 Thats the plan according to the NC interview. First season in Championship aiminmg for top six - which is perfectly doable imo. With the right funding, and by that, as NC said by spending reasonable money on the RIGHT players. Not just chucking loads of cash at players that aren't going to change the side too much just to appease some of the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 9 December, 2010 Share Posted 9 December, 2010 still avoiding the question of why he sacked pardew other then saying it was many reasons, sure i didnt expect him to say anything in detail about him but that was just a dcomplete cop out, oh well he hasnt made any catastrophic decisions yet i guess and adkins is doin reasonable so will have to trust him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 10 December, 2010 Share Posted 10 December, 2010 Thats the plan according to the NC interview. First season in Championship aiminmg for top six - which is perfectly doable imo. Once up I agree. The big question is how long will it take us to get into the Championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 10 December, 2010 Share Posted 10 December, 2010 still avoiding the question of why he sacked pardew other then saying it was many reasons, sure i didnt expect him to say anything in detail about him but that was just a dcomplete cop out, oh well he hasnt made any catastrophic decisions yet i guess and adkins is doin reasonable so will have to trust him Guessing..... but perhaps there are DNA on both sides, and NC is hogtied as to what he can say. However that is old news and to be honest isn't it time we stopped picking at the 'scar tissue' and get on with becoming serious premier league contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 10 December, 2010 Share Posted 10 December, 2010 Thats the plan according to the NC interview. First season in Championship aiminmg for top six - which is perfectly doable imo. Definitely, just look at Leicester last season and the Norwich and Leeds so far this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 10 December, 2010 Share Posted 10 December, 2010 still avoiding the question of why he sacked pardew other then saying it was many reasons, sure i didnt expect him to say anything in detail about him but that was just a dcomplete cop out, oh well he hasnt made any catastrophic decisions yet i guess and adkins is doin reasonable so will have to trust him You are very naive if you think that he will say anything at all about Pardew's sacking. Also, I suspect that if you were fired from your job you would not appreciate your boss broadcasting his reasons for it to the nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 10 December, 2010 Share Posted 10 December, 2010 still avoiding the question of why he sacked pardew other then saying it was many reasons, sure i didnt expect him to say anything in detail about him but that was just a dcomplete cop out, oh well he hasnt made any catastrophic decisions yet i guess and adkins is doin reasonable so will have to trust him I think from what he said, we can connect the dots. He's says that the attributes which NA has were lacking previously and he cited motivation and coummuncation. This also ties in with the stories of the training staff being unhappy and unmotivated under AP. If this is the case then the sacking is perfectly reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 10 December, 2010 Share Posted 10 December, 2010 Premier league by 2014. Ha ha ha ha ha. No chance! I'll take that bet if Mr. Cortese is prepared to put his money where his mouth is. I cant believe you are so pessimistic! If we get promoted this season that would give us three season's in the championship to get back to the promised land. With the current progress/support/backing at the club, that goal is not guaranteed but well achievable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 10 December, 2010 Share Posted 10 December, 2010 If Blackpool can do it, we can do it. Football is all about living the dream, lets go for it. Agreed We are a "proven" Team in the Prem We have double the gates of Blackpool, plus more "resources" I think Once we do get there, we CAN stay there, wheras if Blackpool do stay up this season, that will be a MASSIVE achievement by them A bit like Saints when at the Dell, being forced to manage on 15300 per home gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 December, 2010 Share Posted 10 December, 2010 Umm, all those current players who've come through their youth squad are Catalonian except Bojan and Pedro (and he's from Tenerife). Slightly more local than say, Gareth Bale was for us. So no, they're not scouring the globe, and I don't expect us to either. The problem with Lowe was he would sell at the first hint of interest. Now I feel even if we do end up selling an academy product it will be much more on our own terms. But you'd have to admit that Barcelona's 500 million + euros in debt didn't come from their youth policy. They (and Real Madrid) scavenge in Argentina, great young players but at the first bad couple of games the fans turn on them,happened with Maradonna ffs (true he did spit at the king of Spain a bit). Barca's publicity machine will make you believe whatever it is they want you to believe but at the end of the day they're just one of Europe's top 8 with a debt mountain to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 10 December, 2010 Share Posted 10 December, 2010 Is it a coincedence that we are suddenly getting a lot more content from the OS and Saints Player following Cortese comments about communication not being as good as it is? Not sure how many users on here watch the videos on Saints Player but I for one felt really good after watching the video of the players visiting the hospital, seeing them all getting on so well and everyone appearing so upbeat.. Once again peace is here (As jaidi indicated at the end of the video) and it's a great time to be a saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 10 December, 2010 Share Posted 10 December, 2010 Why do you fully trust him I dont see what he has done to warrant it. I am just happy to see what happens as I am sure we will be in the top six at the end of the season and possibly a lot higher if we start playing really well Errrrrrrr what has he done to warrant it? Helped save the club and keep us in existance Reorganised the club into a proper business Helped assemble a proper team Has a five year plan that looks credible to get us up to the premiere league I guess apart from that "what have the Romans done for us" to quote Mony Python from the life of Brian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larrylove Posted 10 December, 2010 Share Posted 10 December, 2010 Cortese definitely reminds me of Tony Montana (Scarface.) I love the guy. A young Don Corleone at the end of part one when Kay his wife see's the capo's pledging their loyalty to him! And yeah top man in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 10 December, 2010 Share Posted 10 December, 2010 Had to smile when he used the phrases 'in the building' and 'simple as that'. That NA bloke is infectious. I noticed that, I half wonder if he was having a little joke about Nigel's little phrases, NC also went a little bit Cilla at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 10 December, 2010 Share Posted 10 December, 2010 To play devil's advocate... Errrrrrrr what has he done to warrant it? Helped save the club and keep us in existance - saw and took an opportunity to pick up a former top flight English football club for an absolute song Reorganised the club into a proper business - has he? What evidence is there that the club is being well run and making money? Have any accounts been published? Helped assemble a proper team - Didn't Pardew do that? In fairness with our resources we should have had a decent amount of spending power and most of the players we got last season were signed for peanuts. Has a five year plan that looks credible to get us up to the premiere league - what exactly are the details of this plan that look so credible? So far all I've seen is 'get promoted, finish top six the season after' I guess apart from that "what have the Romans done for us" to quote Mony Python from the life of Brian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 December, 2010 Share Posted 10 December, 2010 What exactly has Cortese done to NOT have our trust, is what I wanna know. Despite being proven wrong repeatedly, people still seem to choose to believe the media and other chairman rather than trusting ours first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 10 December, 2010 Share Posted 10 December, 2010 What exactly has Cortese done to NOT have our trust, is what I wanna know. Despite being proven wrong repeatedly, people still seem to choose to believe the media and other chairman rather than trusting ours first. +1 I know NC may not have made 100% the correct decisions, but show me a chairman that has! I think NC is doing a bloody good job overall and i intend to support him(not blindly) but i will support him even when we dont know all the finer details. Can you imagine all the nit picking that would go on if we were told all the details about every decision/plan made. It could also be commercial suicide with certain info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 What exactly has Cortese done to NOT have our trust, is what I wanna know. Despite being proven wrong repeatedly, people still seem to choose to believe the media and other chairman rather than trusting ours first. I don't distrust him but nor do I put my blind faith in anyone. His strategy of building from the youth ranks is unproven - and was disatrous under our previous Chairman... He fired a manager who most Chairmen (except Mike Ashley) would have knighted. He has charged the fans more for the same product. All of the above can be questioned and fairly, in my view. It does not mean that I don't trust him or that I am not hugely grateful for encouraging Markus Leibherr to buy the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 youth set up is getting great plaudits and is showing how it can improve 1st 11 and replaced with manager who is doing better is getting biggest crowds in division Just alternative view! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 youth set up is getting great plaudits and is showing how it can improve 1st 11 and replaced with manager who is doing better is getting biggest crowds in division Just alternative view! And it could well be my view Nick, the point is that Caeser's wife should not be above suspicion... And people should get off their high horses just because someone has an alternate view. Some days this place resembles Salem... she's a witch, burn her... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 I don't trust him completely, or warm to him BUT - the negative seems to cme down to tittle tattle and thing often proven wrong - almost as if some are seeking the negative rather than just questioning / debating his decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 His strategy of building from the youth ranks is unproven - and was disatrous under our previous Chairman... Unproven in what way? Because I'm pretty sure that bringing players through has jn actual fact been proven to be of great benefit to many clubs...including our own. As long as it's done in the right way this can only be seen as a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Unproven in what way? Because I'm pretty sure that bringing players through has jn actual fact been proven to be of great benefit to many clubs...including our own. As long as it's done in the right way this can only be seen as a good thing. Sure, I don't disagree. But you can't rely on youth alone. Investment in proven first team players is also essential, otherwise you're just a farm for the top clubs. So while I admire his ambition to be Barcelona, his comments about the volume of youth team players in their ranks is naive if he doesn't also understand that they scoured the globe and bought the best talent which underpins the youth development programme. The two really go hand in hand, not one or the other. I'm sure he's not daft enough to follow the Lowe model... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Sure, I don't disagree. But you can't rely on youth alone. Investment in proven first team players is also essential, otherwise you're just a farm for the top clubs. So while I admire his ambition to be Barcelona, his comments about the volume of youth team players in their ranks is naive if he doesn't also understand that they scoured the globe and bought the best talent which underpins the youth development programme. The two really go hand in hand, not one or the other. I'm sure he's not daft enough to follow the Lowe model... you're correct, he isn't daft enough. he has already purchased players. ultimately his comments are exciting, but it's pointless discussing their merits until we see evidence, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 January, 2011 Share Posted 31 January, 2011 Cortese Quotes (Courtesy of Radio Solent)(On Oxlade Chamberlin) "He's not going to go anywhere in January. We're talking about a very young player in the first year of a professional contract. We'll have to cope with the rumours and we have to help the kid cope with the rumours. However he's very well looked after and I don't think he'd wish to be anywhere else than here. We're very proud to see the progress he's made in such a short period. A year ago no-one was talking about him, he wasn't even close to the first team… but when he got the first team call he did great. There's still a lot for him to learn, he's aware of that so it's important. We've got got here a great prospect for the future, but not the transfer market." Sounds like we can trust what Cortese tells us then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 January, 2011 Share Posted 31 January, 2011 Sounds like we can trust what Cortese tells us then.... Sufficiently from my perspective that any further comparisons between Cortese and Lowe are completely ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 31 January, 2011 Share Posted 31 January, 2011 Sounds like we can trust what Cortese tells us then.... 10 hours and 50 minutes remaining.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 January, 2011 Share Posted 31 January, 2011 10 hours and 50 minutes remaining.... I always was a little premature.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 January, 2011 Share Posted 31 January, 2011 Sufficiently from my perspective that any further comparisons between Cortese and Lowe are completely ridiculous. Is this a new Alpine I see before me? A more positive one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 31 January, 2011 Share Posted 31 January, 2011 That interview still fills me with hope, even watching it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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