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I feel pretty sorry for pardew, seemed to me like a decent bloke and 90% of us were GUTTED on here when he got the sack. Don't think he deserves the abuse the NUFC fans are planning for him on saturday.

 

My opinion is that this was "set up" months ago, and was the main reason for Pardew's obvious apathetic attitude to being Saints Manager

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I wonder if they've hired him because they think it'll give them a shot at poaching our youth prospects...

LOL - imagine the scene in Ashley's office "I plan to appoint a manager so that we have a chance of poaching one or two future talents from a L1 Club". I think NUFC have higher aspirations than that (even though those aspirations may be completely misguided). We may rightly think that AL and Oxo are great talents, but in the overall scheme of things I really don't think it would be worth installing a particular manager on the off-chance that these players would blindly follow him to Geordie Land.

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It is usually a wonder to me why some managers gets appointed. Doesn't anybody take an interest in what type of football they like to play? Or do they think that "attacking" (Pardew today on the radio) or "winning" (in a previous incarnation) is a good enough description in itself? I doubt that the geordies will be satisfied with a game which kicks long, without a real idea about alternatives, so I can't see 5 years of bliss.

 

But then I remember Ian Branfoot. We were brought up on sophisticated, passing football down here, so didn't the Chairman have a clue what kind of football Branfoot preferred? Or even worse, didn't he know the difference?

 

Compared with these examples we should be grateful that a manager was appointed here with a belief in the 'beautiful game' and not just in sweat, guts and mud. I think our current chairman did that one really well.

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The length of the contract means nothing in terms of compo nowadays. A guy from the LMA was on the radio the other day and he said that nowadays the contracts have severance terms written into them. He said the standard terms was normally a years salary, so even if he has 4 years left on his contract, he'll only get a years pay. With the top managers the club also insert an amount another club would have to pay if the they want to take your Manager, but I doubt they'll need that for Pards.

 

You can understand how the Toon supporters feel, they could proberly except Houghton going, for O Neil or someone similar, but for Pardew?????

 

I wonder how Chris Houghton feels, his first decent job, beats Arsenal away, smashes Sunderland and gets replaced by Pards. I hope he gets another job soon, he deserves a chance.

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Goodluck to him. When he came here we were a complete shambles in freefall. Had a dire squad, no coaching staff pretty much. Pretty amateurish set up to be honest. He brought in our current squad and had one of our best seasons since dropping out of the PL. I am sure most people would agree compared to what we had seen in the previous few years it was actually enjoyable to watch the football again. Add to that a great day out at Wembley and for a lot of us watching Saints win our first cup in our lifetimes. He left with the highest win ratio of a Saints manager since 1897.

 

I don't think he did anything to warrent bad feeling towards him. He is a good manager and it would not surprise me one bit to see him do well at Newcastle. I hope he does.

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Pardew must think he's won the lotto, 5 year contract.Ashley must have bite marks on his hand.

Never been able to find out why Saints sacked him......the real reason that is.......but Alan must be comfortable with it.Good luck to him.......and all Newcastle fans.

 

Because they are going to need it. It will be interesting to see how he tries to play. He says that the target is to stay in the Premier, however he is a safety first manager and that won't go down well at SJP unless the results are good. Rather them than us. Happy Christmas Colin.

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Goodluck to him. When he came here we were a complete shambles in freefall. Had a dire squad, no coaching staff pretty much. Pretty amateurish set up to be honest. He brought in our current squad and had one of our best seasons since dropping out of the PL. I am sure most people would agree compared to what we had seen in the previous few years it was actually enjoyable to watch the football again. Add to that a great day out at Wembley and for a lot of us watching Saints win our first cup in our lifetimes. He left with the highest win ratio of a Saints manager since 1897.

 

I don't think he did anything to warrent bad feeling towards him. He is a good manager and it would not surprise me one bit to see him do well at Newcastle. I hope he does.

 

Pardew's obsession for wanting to win the JP Tinpot Trophy, at the expense of a few more very gettable points in the League, resulted in us STILL being in the Third Tier of UK Football

 

Good day at Wembley or not, I myself would rather be currently in the CCC

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Pardew's obsession for wanting to win the JP Tinpot Trophy, at the expense of a few more very gettable points in the League, resulted in us STILL being in the Third Tier of UK Football

 

Good day at Wembley or not, I myself would rather be currently in the CCC

 

Where's the evidence that not winning the JPT would have got us a play off place? How do you know that a good run in the JPT didn't inspire the plays to win more league matches? I really don't see how you can prove winning the JPT made a difference to our final league postion. We didn't even play our strongest team in the final or run up games due to our new signings being cup tied.

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Pardew's obsession for wanting to win the JP Tinpot Trophy, at the expense of a few more very gettable points in the League, resulted in us STILL being in the Third Tier of UK Football

 

Good day at Wembley or not, I myself would rather be currently in the CCC

 

What a load of absolute cobblers. But then, I'd expect nothing less from the most clueless contributor to this forum. Keep the drivel coming.

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allardyce did ok with the geordies.....he got utterly hounded out because they simply did not like the style of play

 

 

pardew is screwed...i give him 12 months

 

Yep. I like Pardew, he did a good job with us under any reasonable measure, but things didn't work out for whatever reason.

 

But him and Newcastle seem like a terrible fit. He'll have a go, and they probably will stay up, but bobbling about in 16th next season will see him hounded out by fans who didn't want him anyway. If he's still there this time next year he'd have done very well.

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Pardew's obsession for wanting to win the JP Tinpot Trophy, at the expense of a few more very gettable points in the League, resulted in us STILL being in the Third Tier of UK Football

 

Good day at Wembley or not, I myself would rather be currently in the CCC

 

I don't think it was the obsession with wanting to win the JP that screwed us. It was having a poor pre-season and not having a settled team until after the 2nd transfer window shut. If we had a few more games we would of got into the top 6 for sure. It just wasen't to be.

 

This time last year we had 32 points, 4 more then we have now. We just don't start seasons well.

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I don't know all the details of what went on between Pardew and Cortese, but in my opinion, AP did very little wrong during his spell in charge here.

 

When he took over, we had a squad which was short of quality and confidence. The whole atmosphere around St. Mary's was pretty grim in truth. After a slow start to the season, (not helped by the fact that AP came in just two weeks before the season got under way) things began to pick up. Pards made some very astute transfers, strengthening in almost every department. Yes, we narrowly missed out on a playoff spot, thanks largely to the ten point deduction, but with the JPT win and a relatively successful season, he gave us fans one of the most enjoyable campaigns for a long time. For that, I'll always be grateful.

 

Now he's moved on to Newcastle, I hope he is given a fair crack of the whip to prove his worth as a Premiership manager. He's got the ability to do well there, but it could take a while to win round both the players AND the fans. Having said that, there's a strong enough character there to do just that, and I have every faith he'll do just fine.

 

Whatever went on behind the scenes that led to Alan's dismissal should be put to bed now. He's just been appointed as manager of a very good club, and I think the majority of Saints fans should appreciate what he did do for us and wish him all the best for the future.

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BBC article. "In addition to being on the ball when the transfer market reopens, Pardew has also underlined the importance of bring players through Newcastle's academy into the first team. "Some of the most successful sides [in the word], like Barcelona, have created players from within," he continued.

 

Weird. NC and AP now saying exactly the same thing, the day after NC's interview. Who pinched it from who?

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Each to there own. Best season of football in years for me under AP last year this year by comparrassion has been very poor so far. If we're juding soley what he did for us then he did a good job. The idea he played terrible long ball football is false. Funnily enough we're playing the same style of football under Nigel but apparently now we look like Barca everytime we come on the pitch according to some on here.

 

Yes but we played some of our best football under Hoddle and achieved one of our highest points ratio IN THE PREMIERSHIP, but some fans preferred a modest League 1 manager from the mighty Plymouth.

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Goodluck to him. When he came here we were a complete shambles in freefall. Had a dire squad, no coaching staff pretty much. Pretty amateurish set up to be honest. He brought in our current squad and had one of our best seasons since dropping out of the PL. I am sure most people would agree compared to what we had seen in the previous few years it was actually enjoyable to watch the football again. Add to that a great day out at Wembley and for a lot of us watching Saints win our first cup in our lifetimes. He left with the highest win ratio of a Saints manager since 1897.

 

I don't think he did anything to warrent bad feeling towards him. He is a good manager and it would not surprise me one bit to see him do well at Newcastle. I hope he does.

 

This....

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Yes but we played some of our best football under Hoddle and achieved one of our highest points ratio IN THE PREMIERSHIP, but some fans preferred a modest League 1 manager from the mighty Plymouth.

 

The same Glenn Hoddle whose Spurs side was completely and utterly smashed by Strachan's at St Marys?

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Pardew's obsession for wanting to win the JP Tinpot Trophy, at the expense of a few more very gettable points in the League, resulted in us STILL being in the Third Tier of UK Football

 

Good day at Wembley or not, I myself would rather be currently in the CCC

 

Myth... complete and utter myth, peddled on here by people with an agenda against Pardew.

Quite frankly I find it offensive to have one of my best days as a Saints fan written off as tin pot....

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Myth... complete and utter myth, peddled on here by people with an agenda against Pardew.

Quite frankly I find it offensive to have one of my best days as a Saints fan written off as tin pot....

 

Didn't see the news tonight then? Apparently AP highest achivement was a runners up medal in the FA cup.......

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Interesting tweet from a geordie:-

 

I don't feel great about the new manager at my club #nufc . My son Sam is in the academy at #saintsfc and #alanpardue 's rep is poor.

 

taken from the dinner with NC thread

 

Pards basically wanted things done his way and didn’t listen to people telling him he was pushing the players too hard.

 

Those people where the devolpment squad/sports science people so hardly suprising his rep is poor there with the academy. I now understand why Pards is gone. It's a case of old school manager wanting to be in charge of the way things are done and the team vs new style set up where lots of people are involved in different aspects of the team. Kind of reminds me of the Redknapp/sir Clive thing and just like that scenerio it wasn't going to work this time either.

 

Funnily enough that is pretty much what the club statement said but no one believed it (some on here told me it was an out right lie). Pardew was sacked becuase he and his coaches wanted to do things one way and the chairman another, not becuase he made us play bad football or was ****ing fonte's misses or any of the other bull sh it flung around here. It also explains why Nigel feels the need to big up the backroom staff in every interview now. I'm satisfied now I'm going to stop joinning AP threads becuase I feel like I'm becoming the next Dalek2003.

 

The only final thing I'll add if AP was sacked becuase of his insistance to do things his way (as stated by NC) this must have been obvious sometime before he was sacked so why the **** poor timming why not remove him in the summer? that one still doesn't make sense to me.

 

Still AP will always be fondly remembered by me good luck to him at Newcastle (although I think it will be a nightmare for him )

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People wonder why he's taken the job. It's a cast-iron contract termination compensation opportunity.

 

He's four points above the drop zone. Players are p*ssed off, and probably have the attitude "Who's he? What's he ever done?"

So he's in a no lose situation - get relegated and get a pay-off, or keep them up still get the sack and get a pay-off.

If I was him I'd aim for the former - get your money and get out. Nothing more that that moron Ashley and co. deserve IMO.

How anyone thinking they are a "big club" can replace Houghton with Pardew is beyond me.

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he did well for us so good luck to him

BUT

what a mad appointment, sack a perfectly good manager at great expense and replace with a similar level of manager at huge expense with a five year deal, alienating an already annoyed fanbase.

Ashley just needs to wipe his ar$e on the shirt and wee on Milburn's grave and his PR campaign is complete.

 

Has Storrie joined Newcastle?

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Myth... complete and utter myth, peddled on here by people with an agenda against Pardew.

Quite frankly I find it offensive to have one of my best days as a Saints fan written off as tin pot....[/QUOTE]

 

Sorry you feel like that, (I went and had a good day too )

 

But, like you, the reality of THIS season is that we had 46 Matches STILL in Division One ahead of us

 

Are you really saying you would rather have gone to Wembley than have got a few more points in the LEAGUE Matches to get us PROMOTED through the Play Offs ??

 

Cortese's Priority was the LEAGUE, as was publicly well known, even to Pardew

 

But Pardew was hell bent on the JPT

 

Wrong move IMHO, because I would rather be in the CCC right now

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I don't think it was the obsession with wanting to win the JP that screwed us. It was having a poor pre-season and not having a settled team until after the 2nd transfer window shut. If we had a few more games we would of got into the top 6 for sure. It just wasen't to be.

 

This time last year we had 32 points, 4 more then we have now. We just don't start seasons well.

 

Different Season

 

It's a much tighter League this time

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Myth... complete and utter myth, peddled on here by people with an agenda against Pardew.

Quite frankly I find it offensive to have one of my best days as a Saints fan written off as tin pot....[/QUOTE]

 

Sorry you feel like that, (I went and had a good day too )

 

But, like you, the reality of THIS season is that we had 46 Matches STILL in Division One ahead of us

 

Are you really saying you would rather have gone to Wembley than have got a few more points in the LEAGUE Matches to get us PROMOTED through the Play Offs ??

 

Cortese's Priority was the LEAGUE, as was publicly well known, even to Pardew

 

But Pardew was hell bent on the JPT

 

Wrong move IMHO, because I would rather be in the CCC right now

 

But NC said in his interview the plan is ahead of scheduale which suggests they didn't expect promotion last year ( would have liked it of course, but never expected it) so prehaps it wasn't an big an issue as some think. Apparently there is a big picture of NC and ML with the jpt trophy in the boardroom to which doesn't suggest they where upset to win the JPT either. Finally as I said before can you prove winning the JPT cost us promotion last year? (I really don't think you can)

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Different Season

 

It's a much tighter League this time

 

Still don't think it's acceptable this season though, I really didn't expect the likes of Bompey and Charlton to be looking down on us from on high this season, still plenty of time but this season is not going at all like I thought it would. Should we really be 8th at this stage of the season?

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Myth... complete and utter myth, peddled on here by people with an agenda against Pardew.

Quite frankly I find it offensive to have one of my best days as a Saints fan written off as tin pot....[/QUOTE]

 

Sorry you feel like that, (I went and had a good day too )

 

But, like you, the reality of THIS season is that we had 46 Matches STILL in Division One ahead of us

 

Are you really saying you would rather have gone to Wembley than have got a few more points in the LEAGUE Matches to get us PROMOTED through the Play Offs ??

 

Cortese's Priority was the LEAGUE, as was publicly well known, even to Pardew

 

But Pardew was hell bent on the JPT

 

Wrong move IMHO, because I would rather be in the CCC right now

 

And how can you prove that the JPT cost us those 4 points?

 

I could counter that by saying the whole experience buoyed the players, increased their confidence and got the team playing better...

 

(wasn't having at pop at you by the way..)

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taken from the dinner with NC thread

 

Pards basically wanted things done his way and didn’t listen to people telling him he was pushing the players too hard.

 

Those people where the devolpment squad/sports science people so hardly suprising his rep is poor there with the academy. I now understand why Pards is gone. It's a case of old school manager wanting to be in charge of the way things are done and the team vs new style set up where lots of people are involved in different aspects of the team. Kind of reminds me of the Redknapp/sir Clive thing and just like that scenerio it wasn't going to work this time either.

 

Funnily enough that is pretty much what the club statement said but no one believed it (some on here told me it was an out right lie). Pardew was sacked becuase he and his coaches wanted to do things one way and the chairman another, not becuase he made us play bad football or was ****ing fonte's misses or any of the other bull sh it flung around here. It also explains why Nigel feels the need to big up the backroom staff in every interview now. I'm satisfied now I'm going to stop joinning AP threads becuase I feel like I'm becoming the next Dalek2003.

 

The only final thing I'll add if AP was sacked becuase of his insistance to do things his way (as stated by NC) this must have been obvious sometime before he was sacked so why the **** poor timming why not remove him in the summer? that one still doesn't make sense to me.

 

Still AP will always be fondly remembered by me good like to him at Newcastle (although I think it will be a nightmare for him )

 

Nail on head.

 

Whatever you think of Pardew it was his neck and reputation on the line and how many times have we said let the manager manage and the CEO look after the money?

He knew that he had a short time to get promotion and by the look of things went for it big time. Rather at odds to the detractors who were saying that he didn't care.

 

I think Cortese made a big mistake this season. Well 2 actually. Letting him go and letting him go when he did. From what was said at the Nosh Charm Offensive it seems like promotion this year might not be as crucial as we were led to believe if it won't be until the summer until we go after the players we need. Hmmmm.

 

My trust in Cortese was not high before and is even lower now. All the innuendo about having to sack him leading us to believe that maybe there was a grain of truth in some of the b*ll*cks being spouted on here has done him no favours. I'd have more respect for him if he had just said I want manager in who is going to do what I tell him to do. I would draw a comparison here with a former CEO but don't want to upset Jack Frost.

 

As for Pardew, good luck to him at Newcastle, he will need it. Glad he got a Prem job (that must rankle with his detractors on here) and as has been said, he can't lose. If he turns things round he is a hero, if he doesn't he is minted. Feel sorry for Hughton but again, his bank balance will not suffer.

 

And as for us. If things are solid with the family, why a Plan B (yes I know every company should have a plan B) but to mention it like that makes me wonder if everything is as solid as NC would like us to believe. If you you want players badly enough you find the cash to bring them in - all the excuses about why that would be hard mid season do not wash. Where were they last summer? Where were they before the loan window closed? Perhaps the players will be here next summer because we will have new owners then....just a thought.

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Still don't think it's acceptable this season though, I really didn't expect the likes of Bompey and Charlton to be looking down on us from on high this season, still plenty of time but this season is not going at all like I thought it would. Should we really be 8th at this stage of the season?

 

NO we shouldn't and you can get your mortgage that if Pardew was still here that would not be acceptable. Somehow it is now. You could argue why replace Hughton with Pardew, don't you go for someone better. Same with Adkins and Pardew. I think the only difference is that Adkins gets on with NC (at the moment) and Pardew didn't. Adkins has done a steady job but has hardly set the world alight and if he can't bring in new blood in January promotion this year is far from a certainty.

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Nail on head.

 

Whatever you think of Pardew it was his neck and reputation on the line and how many times have we said let the manager manage and the CEO look after the money?

He knew that he had a short time to get promotion and by the look of things went for it big time. Rather at odds to the detractors who were saying that he didn't care.

 

I think Cortese made a big mistake this season. Well 2 actually. Letting him go and letting him go when he did. From what was said at the Nosh Charm Offensive it seems like promotion this year might not be as crucial as we were led to believe if it won't be until the summer until we go after the players we need. Hmmmm.

 

My trust in Cortese was not high before and is even lower now. All the innuendo about having to sack him leading us to believe that maybe there was a grain of truth in some of the b*ll*cks being spouted on here has done him no favours. I'd have more respect for him if he had just said I want manager in who is going to do what I tell him to do. I would draw a comparison here with a former CEO but don't want to upset Jack Frost.

 

As for Pardew, good luck to him at Newcastle, he will need it. Glad he got a Prem job (that must rankle with his detractors on here) and as has been said, he can't lose. If he turns things round he is a hero, if he doesn't he is minted. Feel sorry for Hughton but again, his bank balance will not suffer.

 

And as for us. If things are solid with the family, why a Plan B (yes I know every company should have a plan B) but to mention it like that makes me wonder if everything is as solid as NC would like us to believe. If you you want players badly enough you find the cash to bring them in - all the excuses about why that would be hard mid season do not wash. Where were they last summer? Where were they before the loan window closed? Perhaps the players will be here next summer because we will have new owners then....just a thought.

 

You're drawing some ridiculous conclusions from what he's said.

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Yes but we played some of our best football under Hoddle and achieved one of our highest points ratio IN THE PREMIERSHIP, but some fans preferred a modest League 1 manager from the mighty Plymouth.

 

No they didn't. They just thought Hodd le was and is and always will be a total c * nt. And how right we are.

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Nail on head.

 

Whatever you think of Pardew it was his neck and reputation on the line and how many times have we said let the manager manage and the CEO look after the money?

He knew that he had a short time to get promotion and by the look of things went for it big time. Rather at odds to the detractors who were saying that he didn't care.

 

I think Cortese made a big mistake this season. Well 2 actually. Letting him go and letting him go when he did. From what was said at the Nosh Charm Offensive it seems like promotion this year might not be as crucial as we were led to believe if it won't be until the summer until we go after the players we need. Hmmmm.

 

My trust in Cortese was not high before and is even lower now. All the innuendo about having to sack him leading us to believe that maybe there was a grain of truth in some of the b*ll*cks being spouted on here has done him no favours. I'd have more respect for him if he had just said I want manager in who is going to do what I tell him to do. I would draw a comparison here with a former CEO but don't want to upset Jack Frost.

 

As for Pardew, good luck to him at Newcastle, he will need it. Glad he got a Prem job (that must rankle with his detractors on here) and as has been said, he can't lose. If he turns things round he is a hero, if he doesn't he is minted. Feel sorry for Hughton but again, his bank balance will not suffer.

 

And as for us. If things are solid with the family, why a Plan B (yes I know every company should have a plan B) but to mention it like that makes me wonder if everything is as solid as NC would like us to believe. If you you want players badly enough you find the cash to bring them in - all the excuses about why that would be hard mid season do not wash. Where were they last summer? Where were they before the loan window closed? Perhaps the players will be here next summer because we will have new owners then....just a thought.

 

LOL, you just couldn't resist it could you :lol:

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No they didn't. They just thought Hodd le was and is and always will be a total c * nt. And how right we are.

 

Some people thought that about Brian Clough when he joined Nottingham Forest. I am sure they would have been happy for him not to have been appointed so that they could settle for obscurity over winning the European Cup twice.

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