landford.saint Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 It's all paper talk bollix on a slow day. Why do some people on here take any snippet of unsubstansiated gossip, then shout "doomed, doomed we're all doomed" like that bloke off Dads Army, without engaging brain or logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 The club needs to issue a statement (if the story is untrue) denying they are looking to sell the club. They owe us that after all the nonsense/worry we've had to put up with over the last few years. NC has issued a statement (to staff) that there is not an ounce of truth in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 NC has issued a statement (to staff) that there is not an ounce of truth in this. Did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Did he? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doubting_Thomas ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doubting_Thomas ? TBF would be nice to hear exactly what was said if you have the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 TBF would be nice to hear exactly what was said if you have the info Short and sweet, 'that there is not an ounce of truth in this' Ok, he did add a few more lines but this (above) is the short version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Cortese also said there was no truth in pardew getting the sack despite everyone in southampton knowing that it was fact ! the bloke lies through his teeth constatly so i will take norms post with a massive pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Cortese also said there was no truth in pardew getting the sack despite everyone in southampton knowing that it was fact ! the bloke lies through his teeth constatly so i will take norms post with a massive pinch of salt. You have a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Cortese also said there was no truth in pardew getting the sack despite everyone in southampton knowing that it was fact ! the bloke lies through his teeth constatly so i will take norms post with a massive pinch of salt. My post re the statement is fact. I'm unable to comment on the content, if it is true or false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 You have a point. No he doesnt. At the time there was no truth in it otherwise he would have been sacked in the summer / late last season. The fact is that NC decided aroud 3 months later to sack him for whatever his reasons where at the time. How long after a statement that he isn going to be sacking him is it ok to go an sack him without being called a liar? 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, 1 decade? NC doesnt strike me as a man that will dawdle over a decision for 2/3 months, more so a man that will identify a problem and deal with it quickly, concisely and without semtiment. A man that continues headlong into disaster without the balls to reverse a decision that he feels isnt working is a fool and has no place running a company IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 No he doesnt. At the time there was no truth in it otherwise he would have been sacked in the summer / late last season. The fact is that NC decided aroud 3 months later to sack him for whatever his reasons where at the time. How long after a statement that he isn going to be sacking him is it ok to go an sack him without being called a liar? 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, 1 decade? NC doesnt strike me as a man that will dawdle over a decision for 2/3 months, more so a man that will identify a problem and deal with it quickly, concisely and without semtiment. A man that continues headlong into disaster without the balls to reverse a decision that he feels isnt working is a fool and has no place running a company IMO You're entitled to your view. I don't share it though. Pardew was a dead man walking long before he was sacked. I think sacking AP was the right decision btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Cortese also said there was no truth in pardew getting the sack despite everyone in southampton knowing that it was fact ! the bloke lies through his teeth constatly so i will take norms post with a massive pinch of salt. Whilst I'm a normal fan and not associated with the club in any way other than as a fan who goes to games, that is a dangerous statement to make without back-up and you have not provided any whatsoever. We also don't have any proof that NC has contacted staff telling them this is untrue and the club has been in dispute with this "newspaper". I don't want to get involved in the whole pro/anti NC thing as I'm a Saints fan, not any individual, but can you provide any example of where he has lied? I didn't agree with some of his actions including the ST installment removal and lack of notice but generally he has proved to be fairly savvy. The club may well be up for sale but my friendly advice to you as a fellow fan would be to take care in your use of language so that you protect yourself and the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbattigger Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 I don't get why people think NC should issue a statement. This is a business being run by a businessman, it's not owned by fans. He has told the people who matter, the staff. Why can't the rest of you understand that releasing statements everytime someone comes up with a bit of unsubstantiated gossip/rumour is not the way businesses are run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 I don't get why people think NC should issue a statement. This is a business being run by a businessman, it's not owned by fans. He has told the people who matter, the staff. Why can't the rest of you understand that releasing statements everytime someone comes up with a bit of unsubstantiated gossip/rumour is not the way businesses are run? Tut tut, this is far too sensible a post for this forum. Shame on you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 My post re the statement is fact. I'm unable to comment on the content, if it is true or false. Sorry i meant what cortese said and not you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 My my what a lot of speculative (and rather silly) threads today. I thought we'd got past all that.Must be the time of year because I see also that someone is spreading a rumour about Israel training sharks to eat German tourists in Egypt.Just goes to show that when there is no football the devil finds work for idle keyboard pinkies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Cortese also said there was no truth in pardew getting the sack despite everyone in southampton knowing that it was fact ! the bloke lies through his teeth constatly so i will take norms post with a massive pinch of salt. Shut up smears ! All you seem to do is look for negatives...some "fan". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 I don't get why people think NC should issue a statement. This is a business being run by a businessman, it's not owned by fans. He has told the people who matter, the staff. Why can't the rest of you understand that releasing statements everytime someone comes up with a bit of unsubstantiated gossip/rumour is not the way businesses are run? Well said. Some fans are such whingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Why wouldn't the Glazer story be true? Do you know the Glazer family's financial situation and plans for United? I think a national newspaper might have a bit of an idea. IF the Liebherr ladies did sell, wouldn't be suprised if Cortese took it on with the help of a consortium. Apparently the grandson of Burma's dictator wanted said dictator to buy Man U. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 From Official Saint twitter account in response to someone :- @officialsaints statement? Anything? This is causing fans quite a bit of concern. Tell NC to pull his finger out. @ben_stroud Really?! I'd put it in the same category as the "Paul Hart set to take over as new Saints manager" story a few months ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Maybe Cortese has someone in mind already. It might explain Left backs comments regards a court case and falling out with Marcus Liebher's daughter. Have I missed something?? When was this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Have I missed something?? When was this? yeah when NC fall out with Marcus Liebher's daughter and have a court case with her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Would put money on us having new owners in next 12 to 18 months months. To me it is a no brainer. If I was Cortese the fun would have gone out of the project with the very sad passing of M.L. He will be hear now out of loyalty, i suspect more than what is in it for himself. I would also feel confident that he will be selective in who he sells the club too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 I apologise, i missed this thread when posting my own. TBF though as i wasn't looking to buy anything i wasn't going to open a 'for sale' thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Cortese also said there was no truth in pardew getting the sack despite everyone in southampton knowing that it was fact ! the bloke lies through his teeth constatly so i will take norms post with a massive pinch of salt. he didn't say he will not be sacked if we start season badly / incident happens etc in few months time. he wasn't lying - if he was intending to sack him when statement was issued he would have preferred the timing and done so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Cortese also said there was no truth in pardew getting the sack despite everyone in southampton knowing that it was fact ! the bloke lies through his teeth constatly so i will take norms post with a massive pinch of salt. you are a nutter..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 TBF i am confident that if i asked my manager if he was thinking of sacking me he would say no but i am also pretty sure that would have no basis on a future sacking if i then did something that was considered gross misconduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 When you think about it speculation that the club will eventually be put up for sale is entirely plausible, indeed I'd be mildly surprised if ownership of the club hadn't passed into somebody else's hands within the next few years. This club is obviously going to require a substantial and ongoing level of investment if ML's dream of returning it to its former glories is to be relised, if our current owner (ML's daughter presumably) heart really isn't in it (and why should it be?) then she better start looking for a good buyer and let them get on with it. I'm quite confident there would be a number of interested parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 I can predict with some certainty that the club will, at some point, be sold. I look forward to being able to say "I told you so". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 I really like NC and am very very happy with how the club has been run esp if we get the upgrade of the academy. BUT if there was any change at all hopefully with a bit of money behind them I hope they don't ever put the club in dept and also would actually love MLT to have a significant role like sunderland with Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 I think it's actually the Sun that is up for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Would put money on us having new owners in next 12 to 18 months months. To me it is a no brainer. If I was Cortese the fun would have gone out of the project with the very sad passing of M.L. He will be hear now out of loyalty, i suspect more than what is in it for himself. I would also feel confident that he will be selective in who he sells the club too. Your best mate, called Dave, has shed loads of cash. One day, he turns up on your door step and says "alright mate, I have bought a motor, bit of a mess, but it's my baby. And now, your baby aswell. I'll supply the lot, you just tell me what it needs to make this motor a future example to follow. I want it to be the pride of England." You politely agree, thanking him for choosing you and ensure him you will do all you can to make it all that he wants. You are informed that he wants it done in the right way. "Don't just go and buy the best parts and whack it all in there. I want you to bit by bit, make this a world beater. You get underway, making vital changes to the infrastructure of the motor. The very thing that will make or break the machine. The motor is tinkered with, only as far as you can go at the level your at. Changes will be made later as you go up through the stages. You start to get respected at a lower level. This machine is gradually coming away from being the laughing stock. It won a little competition at the worlds best venue. Tens of thousands of fans adored it. Unfortunatly, a few short months later. Bad news. Just as you are starting to move in the right direction, Dave passes away. You have lost a best friend and someone who left there dream in your hands. Everything was put in place for the sad eventuality, and you are informed by Dave's family that nothing will change as far as they are concerned. Dave's dream remains in your hands and the funds remain there. But what do you do? Let Dave's dreams burn? Or be even more determined to make the machine not only what Dave dreamed of but even more. Do you take his machine to the very top and when you get there, tell them, "This is for Dave."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Brilliant post, making a point in very entertaining way. *applause* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 You can buy her, you can buy her This one's here, this one's here, this one's here and this one's here Ev'rything's for sale For sale? dumb ****'s same dumb questions Oh virgins? listen, all virgins are liars honey And I don't know what I'm scared of or what I even enjoy Dulling, get money, but nothing turns out like you want it to And in these plagued streets of pity you can buy anything For $200 anyone can conceive a God on video He's a boy, you want a girl so tear off his cock Tie his hair in bunches, **** him, call him Rita if you want I eat and I dress and I wash and I still can say thank you Puking - shaking - sinking I still stand for old ladies Can't shout, can't scream, hurt myself to get pain out I 'T' them, 24:7, all year long Purgatory's circle, drowning here, someone will always say yes Funny place for the social, for the insects to start caring Just an ambulance at the bottom of a cliff In these plagued streets of pity you can buy anything For $200 anyone can conceive a God on video He's a boy, you want a girl so tear off his cock Tie his hair in bunches, **** him, call him Rita if you want, if you want I eat and I dress and I wash and I can still say thank you Puking - shaking - sinking I still stand for old ladies Can't shout, can't scream, I hurt myself to get pain out Power produces desire, the weak have none There's no lust in this coma even for a fifty Solitude, solitude, the 11th commandment The only certain thing that is left about me There is no part of my body that has not been used Pity or pain, to show displeasure's shame Everyone I've loved or hated always seems to leave And in these plagued streets of pity you can buy anything For $200 anyone can conceive a God on video He's a boy, you want a girl so tear off his cock Tie his hair in bunches, **** him, call him Rita if you want, if you want Power produces desire, the weak have none There's no lust in this coma even for a fifty Solitude, solitude, the 11th commandment Don't hurt, just obey, lie down, do as they say May as well be heaven this hell, smells the same These sunless afternoons I can't find myself Two dollars you rub her tits Three dollars you rub her ass Five dollars you can play with her pussy Or you can lick her tits Choice is yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Let me add a ray of sunshine for a moment on this otherwise very bleak story. Marcus Liebherr's legacy for to NC and the club may have amounted to a few million or a few tens of million quid but a finite and limited amount of money so to drive on into te premier League, NC already realises we will need a minimum of £50-100m. The shortfall isn't going to come from gate receipts unless the stadium is enlarged... Perhaps, NC is in the market for more investors to come on board and be partners in the venture. If the total value of the assets plus the legacy under NC's control was (say) £50m maybe he could expand the sharebase to allow investments of up to £49m and still retain control so that the Club ends up with a fighting fund of around £100m... Hence the Sun rumour could have been true in part and NC's alleged comments to staff would not be untrue - that part of the club is for sale but not the whole club and he NC would still retain control? Not the man U or Chelsea style of single family ownership but the Arsenal style collective ownership of like minded people? Discuss.. my further contribution to get off the whingeing old codger step and give all you suicidal types a reason for not jumping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Your best mate, called Dave, has shed loads of cash. One day, he turns up on your door step and says "alright mate, I have bought a motor, bit of a mess, but it's my baby. And now, your baby aswell. I'll supply the lot, you just tell me what it needs to make this motor a future example to follow. I want it to be the pride of England." You politely agree, thanking him for choosing you and ensure him you will do all you can to make it all that he wants. You are informed that he wants it done in the right way. "Don't just go and buy the best parts and whack it all in there. I want you to bit by bit, make this a world beater. You get underway, making vital changes to the infrastructure of the motor. The very thing that will make or break the machine. The motor is tinkered with, only as far as you can go at the level your at. Changes will be made later as you go up through the stages. You start to get respected at a lower level. This machine is gradually coming away from being the laughing stock. It won a little competition at the worlds best venue. Tens of thousands of fans adored it. Unfortunatly, a few short months later. Bad news. Just as you are starting to move in the right direction, Dave passes away. You have lost a best friend and someone who left there dream in your hands. Everything was put in place for the sad eventuality, and you are informed by Dave's family that nothing will change as far as they are concerned. Dave's dream remains in your hands and the funds remain there. But what do you do? Let Dave's dreams burn? Or be even more determined to make the machine not only what Dave dreamed of but even more. Do you take his machine to the very top and when you get there, tell them, "This is for Dave."? Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 NC has issued a statement (to staff) that there is not an ounce of truth in this. Although - I once worked for a very big company, not a football club but bigger than Southampton in that sense. It was rumoured in the press they were being sold and the company then sent an email denouncing the story to the staff (apparently). A few months later the company is sold - to the very other company detailed in the original story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Although - I once worked for a very big company, not a football club but bigger than Southampton in that sense. It was rumoured in the press they were being sold and the company then sent an email denouncing the story to the staff (apparently). A few months later the company is sold - to the very other company detailed in the original story. So, what your trying to say is... in a few months time we will be sold? Because by god damn it if the company you worked for was sold, that must certainly mean that, that, that... we too, are gonna be sold!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 So, what your trying to say is... in a few months time we will be sold? Because by god damn it if the company you worked for was sold, that must certainly mean that, that, that... we too, are gonna be sold!? Or more likely he is trying to point out that what a companies management say to their employees and what they actually do are quite often two very different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 still carries more weight than a quoteless, byline -less two lines in the sun. no reason to doubt him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Or more likely he is trying to point out that what a companies management say to their employees and what they actually do are quite often two very different things. So everything they have told us about taking us to the prem and beyond, completely rebuilding the infrastructure and basically making us something we could only ever dream of before, is all bull sheeite and that they are going to kiss goodbye to the millions they have already spent and sell a league one club for a fraction of the money they have invested? No. That's what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmusicdude Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 So everything they have told us about taking us to the prem and beyond, completely rebuilding the infrastructure and basically making us something we could only ever dream of before, is all bull sheeite and that they are going to kiss goodbye to the millions they have already spent and sell a league one club for a fraction of the money they have invested? No. That's what I thought. yep thats the idea completely twist every grain of what was said to 100% the other end of spectrum to rubbish it .. what a hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 8 December, 2010 Share Posted 8 December, 2010 yep thats the idea completely twist every grain of what was said to 100% the other end of spectrum to rubbish it .. what a hero How have I twisted anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 8 December, 2010 Share Posted 8 December, 2010 Cortese also said there was no truth in pardew getting the sack despite everyone in southampton knowing that it was fact ! the bloke lies through his teeth constatly so i will take norms post with a massive pinch of salt. I love you people, with your 'fact'....if only you knew the truth, if only I could enlighten you, one day maybe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 December, 2010 Share Posted 8 December, 2010 So everything they have told us about taking us to the prem and beyond, completely rebuilding the infrastructure and basically making us something we could only ever dream of before, is all bull sheeite and that they are going to kiss goodbye to the millions they have already spent and sell a league one club for a fraction of the money they have invested? No. That's what I thought. How do you know they would sell for a fraction of what they have invested? Do you know how much they would sell for? No. Thats what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 December, 2010 Share Posted 8 December, 2010 I love you people, with your 'fact'....if only you knew the truth, if only I could enlighten you, one day maybe! Yawn. Go right ahead if its the truth you've nothing to fear from Libel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 8 December, 2010 Share Posted 8 December, 2010 christ!! is this really still running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torsaint Posted 8 December, 2010 Share Posted 8 December, 2010 Somebody start a thread about Saturday's game, please. This is such a boringly speculative subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 December, 2010 Share Posted 8 December, 2010 Somebody start a thread about Saturday's game, please. This is such a boringly speculative subject. That would be the one at the top of the page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 8 December, 2010 Share Posted 8 December, 2010 there is not an ounce of truth in this. there might be a pound or a stone, though. have been a saints fan for too long not to see problems around the corner, even when they are only hints. er. written up in a national newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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