LostBoys Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 The Sun - give me strength they are nearly as bad as the Mirror. Now if it was the Times or FT I would be worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Come on,no serious investment is complete without Barry the Briefcase. I remember that hilarious picture of him at the time LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 I'll tell you something, we'll neve find out anything on here because every time someone posts something contentious they get the thread closed or banned... Feck me. It's like the stazi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 The Sun - give me strength they are nearly as bad as the Mirror. Now if it was the Times or FT I would be worried So a Murdoch paper is ok, but a Murdock paper is not ok? Are you aware that the journalists of the Sun receive the same training as those at the FT or the Times? Do football clubs provide selective information to journalists based on the perceived quality of their employer?? You would be surprised how often the Sun journalists scoop their brethren... (Although I have no idea whether this story is remotely true - but why the hell would somebody make it up? At best we are a provincial club who can just about garner 20,000 fans to a game...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Sounds about right. Oh dear. Here we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 I wouldn't mind betting Cortese has given this story to the paper. What better way to advertise the clubs availability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 It wouldn't suprise me in the least..... I don't think there's any money at the moment - We'll see what happens in january. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 I wouldn't mind betting Cortese has given this story to the paper. What better way to advertise the clubs availability? Hold a press conference and put an article on the OS rather than a three sentence story tucked away (almost hidden) in one papers Monday football pullout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 It wouldn't suprise me in the least..... I don't think there's any money at the moment - We'll see what happens in january. So why 4 days ago did they submit plans for a multi-million training ground development? AND Why over the past few weeks has Adkins been hinting heavily they are spending in January? AND Why did Cortese tell those in the Itchen concourse after a game they will be spending in January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 three sentences in the UKs largest paper is bloody good coverage considering who we are these days. If you know anything abut PR you will know that you try and get the story in the most applicable paper first and then work downwards. We may have offered the SUn an exclusive to guarentee the coverage. Just an educated guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 It wouldn't suprise me in the least..... I don't think there's any money at the moment - We'll see what happens in january. I still believe we will do very well with the Liebherrs, but Markus could have spent CL money on us. Originally Posted by aintforever Like I said, the only important thing is what the Leibherrs say. Cortese is an employee of the club. Cortese is the glue that hold everything that is left together. Without his influence and ambition for the club there is not a lot left. Cortese is especially important to the club, even more so than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Wouldn't surprise me if it is confirmed in the next hour, coming up to the usual time for big news to hit the OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 So why 4 days ago did they submit plans for a multi-million training ground development? AND Why over the past few weeks has Adkins been hinting heavily they are spending in January? AND Why did Cortese tell those in the Itchen concourse after a game they will be spending in January? Smoke and mirrors? Nah, that would never happen in the world of business and high finance...silly me... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Ok. Let's assume for a moment that the Sun made up a 3 line story about a 3rd Division club being up for sale and found space for said story in a fairly prominent place in their multi-million circulation 'Goals' supplement. One question: why on earth would they make up a story as insignificant as that? The fact that 99% of their readership would find this story somewhat mundane would suggest to me that it wasn't made up. That said, whether it came from a 'reliable source' is not so clear cut Just a hunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Ok. Let's assume for a moment that the Sun made up a 3 line story about a 3rd Division club being up for sale and found space for said story in a fairly prominent place in their multi-million circulation 'Goals' supplement. One question: why on earth would they make up a story as insignificant as that? The fact that 99% of their readership would find this story somewhat mundane would suggest to me that it wasn't made up. That said, whether it came from a 'reliable source' is not so clear cut Just a hunch The paper today also contained a story saying the debt ridden Glazers are giving Fergie £100m to spend. This is one of the best supported clubs in the world and the Sun's readership would be interested in the story. Yet it sounds extremely unlikely to be true. Why would they make that up? ANSWER Because Fleet Street is full of crap journalists and the British public keep buying the rags and believing the crap they make up even though most of it is rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 (edited) I have tried finding the picture of Barry the Briefcase to complete the thread. Unable to find the original but after much googling it appears his "fame" is such that he has been immortalised in Lego : Also here is a mock up found after it was suggested he might be involved with an Indian consortium : (ORIGINALLY POSTED BY ALEHOUSEBOY APRIL 2009) Edited 6 December, 2010 by Badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Well, I did warn you months ago that all the signs were there for a fire sale in the spring and those warnig signs were lised. Maybe this old lad is not so paranoid after all? Forget those dreams my friends we are down in this sh*t*hole for ever Thank **** I am not you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Well, I did warn you months ago that all the signs were there for a fire sale in the spring and those warnig signs were lised. Maybe this old lad is not so paranoid after all? Forget those dreams my friends we are down in this sh*t*hole for ever you maybe but don't try to drag us in with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 The paper today also contained a story saying the debt ridden Glazers are giving Fergie £100m to spend. This is one of the best supported clubs in the world and the Sun's readership would be interested in the story. Yet it sounds extremely unlikely to be true. Why would they make that up? ANSWER Because Fleet Street is full of crap journalists and the British public keep buying the rags and believing the crap they make up even though most of it is rubbish. Why wouldn't the Glazer story be true? Do you know the Glazer family's financial situation and plans for United? I think a national newspaper might have a bit of an idea. IF the Liebherr ladies did sell, wouldn't be suprised if Cortese took it on with the help of a consortium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Why wouldn't the Glazer story be true? Do you know the Glazer family's financial situation and plans for United? I think a national newspaper might have a bit of an idea. There have been lots of investigation in the national print media into the Glazer situation and TV doccumentaries. Their US businesses are failing and they are lacking in cash. To believe they are suddenly going to give Fergie £100m plucked from nowhere seems extremely unlikely. This is the same paper that has people worried about the Liebherr's pulling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Knowing saints its probably true. Wills as big as ML's can take years to sort out which may explain the lack of spending in the summer. Its not as if the club have denied it with a statement. A statement of denial for 2 lines in The Sun? What kind of a club would you run?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Its not as if the club have denied it with a statement. Because, as the club have stated in the past. They won't respond to every rumour about the club just because it appears in the press. It is a three sentence, unsubstantiated rumour hidden away in a tabloid. Some journalists when they make up bull**** aren't worth even responding to and is a waste of the clubs time and effort to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Todays Echo says no one at the club will comment. However, they have been told from sources in the national media that there have been whispers over the past few weeks that a buyer is being sought for the club and that some potential investors have been sounded out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 So why 4 days ago did they submit plans for a multi-million training ground development? AND Why over the past few weeks has Adkins been hinting heavily they are spending in January? AND Why did Cortese tell those in the Itchen concourse after a game they will be spending in January? If you are trying to sell your house you ensure it looks good when buyers come to view? I am sure NC will continue to "look after" this club and enhance its position - after all that can only drive the price up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 i agree witth FF about his earlier point.....lets look at the swansea model(or similar) and get some wide based supporter ownership. Also, its pretty obvious to me that NC has been anticipating this for a while, hence the restricited spending, and maximising of revenue streams...both good ideas if you need to be self sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 I don't find it that unrealistic to be honest. Saints were Markus' hobby not his families, now he has gone, it isn't crazy to suggest that the family would see out the season and sell up. I thought The Leibherr Family had said that they would Honour Markus's wishes, and at the Service at St Mary's, that was certainly said Cortese had siad that too So, WHO is lying, the Sun, or the Leibherrs ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Todays Echo says no one at the club will comment. However, they have been told from sources in the national media that there have been whispers over the past few weeks that a buyer is being sought for the club and that some potential investors have been sounded out. Rupert Lowe & Co, with a 2nd Reverse Takeover ??? Happy Days are here again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 I still believe we will do very well with the Liebherrs, but Markus could have spent CL money on us. Cortese is the glue that hold everything that is left together. Without his influence and ambition for the club there is not a lot left. Cortese is especially important to the club, even more so than before. I am sure his Alliegience would be with the Leibherrs, NOT SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Rupert Lowe & Co, with a 2nd Reverse Takeover ??? Happy Days are here again Do you know what a reverse take over is actually is? That's just ga ga land. If they are selling it will be cold hard cash and well out of lowes budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Do you know what a reverse take over is actually is? That's just ga ga land. If they are selling it will be cold hard cash and well out of lowes budget. NO, I myself do not know what a reverse takeover is, and had never heard the phrase until Lowe engineered it to gain control But, knowing Lowe, nothing would surprise me He did it before without spending actual cash, ask all genuine original Shareholders what they think of Lowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Que sera sera! Guess most clubs are for sale most of the time, not always a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 NO, I myself do not know what a reverse takeover is, and had never heard the phrase until Lowe engineered it to gain control But, knowing Lowe, nothing would surprise me He did it before without spending actual cash, ask all genuine original Shareholders what they think of Lowe He has gone and won't be coming back through a reverse takeover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 I hear a Mr R Lowe won the Euro Millions quadruple rollover the other month.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 My worry is NC will be in the one doing the 'selling'. And using his contacts in the banking world will find another non-hands on owner, who'll install NC as the CEO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 If you are trying to sell your house you ensure it looks good when buyers come to view? I am sure NC will continue to "look after" this club and enhance its position - after all that can only drive the price up. Which will make it harder to sell surely. In the current climate people are looking for a bargin plenty of clubs on the edge out there. Far batter to do what ML did wait for a club to go to the wall pick it up for a bargin price pay a small percentage of the debt and then build the club up to hopefully sell on for more money latter. We're going to cost a lot more which makes us less attractive I would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 I believe it when its announced on wikileaks on cable 249009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 My worry is NC will be in the one doing the 'selling'. And using his contacts in the banking world will find another non-hands on owner, who'll install NC as the CEO. Excellent solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 I have tried finding the picture of Barry the Briefcase to complete the thread. Unable to find the original but after much googling it appears his "fame" is such that he has been immortalised in Lego : Also here is a mock up found after it was suggested he might be involved with an Indian consortium : (ORIGINALLY POSTED BY ALEHOUSEBOY APRIL 2009) Thats the picture - but without the turban LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Did no one else listen to Radio Solent this morning? Classic media approach on Solent. The Sun reported yesterday that Saints were up for sale. Solent's headline was "Saints refuse to comment on story". Then in detail of story they admitted that Saints' policy is never to comment on media speculation and then said .. anyway Solent 'understands that the speculation is wide of the mark' !! So Solent are both hyping the story to get listeners interested and then pretty much saying it is nonsense. 'Wide of the mark' does not give much credence to the Sun's 3 lines of gossip in an obscure bit of the paper, not even repeated on line, but still if you lot would rather work yourselves up into lather about the evil empire striking back etc, then you go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 My worry is NC will be in the one doing the 'selling'. And using his contacts in the banking world will find another non-hands on owner, who'll install NC as the CEO. It won't happen. Cortese only took on the CEO job because he was very friendly with Markus. it was THEIR project That tie no longer exists, so he won't be staying once we are sold or taken over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 So why 4 days ago did they submit plans for a multi-million training ground development? AND Why over the past few weeks has Adkins been hinting heavily they are spending in January? AND Why did Cortese tell those in the Itchen concourse after a game they will be spending in January? Also the Liebherr family saying they will honour Markus' wishes. This sounds like a wind-up from a skate journo, or he is being fed the story by a skate. It doesn't add up to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 (edited) Since Markus died NC has stated that this will be his last job and intends staying on for the long haul. A statement has been issued via the club on the Liebherrs family behalf staing they are honouring Markus's wishes and are sticking with (investing in?) the club. The Liebherr family are regular attendees at St. Mary's. New plans for Staplewood are ongoing. NA and NC have said money available for transfers January. Markus's untimely death was not unexpected apparently, and knowing what little I do about him he would have prepared and made his wishes over the club made clear to those he loved and trusted. Put this against 3 lines of unsubstantiated (non source stated) gossip in the gossip section of a frankly dross so-called newspaper ....... Edited 7 December, 2010 by landford.saint poor spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 When have the liebherr family actually said anything ? I think people are getting confused with statements from the clubs pr which is not the liebherrs ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 My worry is NC will be in the one doing the 'selling'. And using his contacts in the banking world will find another non-hands on owner, who'll install NC as the CEO. Maybe Cortese has someone in mind already. It might explain Left backs comments regards a court case and falling out with Marcus Liebher's daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 When have the liebherr family actually said anything ? I think people are getting confused with statements from the clubs pr which is not the liebherrs ! Agreed, they've said nothing official, but that could also be viewed as a positive. I'd be surprised if they were to go against their fathers wishes and sell the club. I'm assuming that they're not short of a bob or two so there's no need to sell if the club is self financing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 The club needs to issue a statement (if the story is untrue) denying they are looking to sell the club. They owe us that after all the nonsense/worry we've had to put up with over the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torsaint Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 This thread is going round in circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrimd Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 The club needs to issue a statement (if the story is untrue) denying they are looking to sell the club. They owe us that after all the nonsense/worry we've had to put up with over the last few years. Why bother. People on here will only say it is 'club PR' and ignore it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon monkey Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 Cortese has said in the past that he will not respond to every rumour that appears in the papers. The sun have had a quiet day and want to wind someone up. There are no facts or sources behind their story, just someone sat at their desk thinking of something to write. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 December, 2010 Share Posted 7 December, 2010 The club needs to issue a statement (if the story is untrue) denying they are looking to sell the club. They owe us that after all the nonsense/worry we've had to put up with over the last few years. why worry? It's got very little to do with the fans if they sell up, we're the least important people at the club as far as things like this are conerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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