Thedelldays Posted 4 December, 2010 Share Posted 4 December, 2010 yeah yeah...its sat night and im watching it... however..apart from two of them, the rest are really really awful, YET they get told how talented they are and how many records they will go on to sell... terrible standards and this is going to produce the next "star".. discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 4 December, 2010 they are already telling some little goofy ***** called cher (who was terrible by the way) how she will sell tons of albums beyond the show....cher claims she wants to give english music a new "twist" christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 4 December, 2010 Share Posted 4 December, 2010 Its because of that show,im on here on a Saturday night,ha. I agree with you Thedelldays,most of the singers are off key and wouldnt come up to the standards of the popular singers of today. I cant stand that young singer Cher,why does she have to keep talking loud in the middle of her songs?Guess i getting old. I think its all fixed anyway.No one gets told how many votes they get and i think the judges decide whos going to win way before the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 4 December, 2010 Share Posted 4 December, 2010 You gotta admire Simon Cowell for cashing in on the type of people who follow this closely, and buy the records that get released afterwards. It's trash TV obviously but fair play to Cowell for seeing the gap in the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 4 December, 2010 Share Posted 4 December, 2010 I just don't get why it's even watched any more, let alone one of the biggest showns on TV. Then again there are a lot of things I just plain don't get. February will mark the 10th anniversary of the creation of Hear'say (from wiki, I don't know the date they were created). That's a decade of Pop Idol, Fame Accademy, X-Factor etc. and still people tune in every Saturday night to see which HMV check-out assistant will get the next 15 minutes of fame. It's just the same s**t every time. Why does this not get old for so many people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 4 December, 2010 Share Posted 4 December, 2010 Thanks to a great Beef Wellington from a cracking butcher in Marlborough accompanied by a very pleasant Cote du Rhone thankfully I am in a state of mind that numbs me from the pain that is the X Factor, that the miss us and tin lids enjoy. That said Mary whatsit is the only high point most weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 4 December, 2010 Share Posted 4 December, 2010 If this is the best undiscovered british talent we have, god help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 4 December, 2010 Share Posted 4 December, 2010 Disagree with you lot entirely. They are talented....Mary is a good singer but the question I keep wondering is this. What song will whoever wins it sing? None of them write so they all have limited shelf lives.....probably a plus point for Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 4 December, 2010 cher cannot sing...she pulls funny faces and makes poor attempts at rapping...then gets told how wonderful she is and claims she is going to change english music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 Shows like the X Factor do nothing for music. Not so long ago you had to be different to be noticed in the music industry.Now you have shows like this one where everyone tries to look the same and sound the same.After one or two records everyone forgets who they were. Apart from Butlins and cruise ships,(where these contestants will end up),none of these X Factor hopefuls will contribute to the progression of music in this country. What ever happened to music being exciting and new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 I was made to watch it last week and it is utter sh!te!! Completely agree with rocknrollman no2, he's expressed my opinion for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 Thanks RedAndWhite91. I know my musical tastes are best described as 1954-74, but even i believe that music should always be re-inventing itself. I feel sorry for the youth of today. Where as past generations had the likes of Elvis,Beatles,Stones,Elton John etc what have they got now? Cher on X Factor or Mary from Tescos to look forward to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 It's disgusting that it is billed as a talent contest. If they want to chase ratings by keeping in the sh*te but interesting people (not to me fwiw) then go for it, but don't try and make out they are better than hundreds of people who were turned down in auditions and boot camp. I lost all interest in the show last year when Jedward were in the bottom two with Lucie Jones - who was easily the best in the competition - and the f*cking twins got put through by Cowell and co. Even more ridiculous is the fact that she has slid into obscurity whilst they have sold millions of records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 Thanks RedAndWhite91. I know my musical tastes are best described as 1954-74, but even i believe that music should always be re-inventing itself. I feel sorry for the youth of today. Where as past generations had the likes of Elvis,Beatles,Stones,Elton John etc what have they got now? Cher on X Factor or Mary from Tescos to look forward to? I agree to an extent, but I think that Foo Fighters for one will go down as one of the greats. One of the only acts going who can replicate what they do on record on a stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 It's disgusting that it is billed as a talent contest. If they want to chase ratings by keeping in the sh*te but interesting people (not to me fwiw) then go for it, but don't try and make out they are better than hundreds of people who were turned down in auditions and boot camp. I lost all interest in the show last year when Jedward were in the bottom two with Lucie Jones - who was easily the best in the competition - and the f*cking twins got put through by Cowell and co. Even more ridiculous is the fact that she has slid into obscurity whilst they have sold millions of records. Completely agree with you. Lucie is however currently in Les Mis in West End and has sined a modelling contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 If they cannot win Xfactor they at least can go onto bigger and better things like win I'm a celeb.................jeese, give me strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 We have Cowell to thank for a lot of the boyband culture and general crap that is popular today. Would love another Sex Pistols to come through right now and smash all this talentless manufactured rubbish to bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 We have Cowell to thank for a lot of the boyband culture and general crap that is popular today. Would love another Sex Pistols to come through right now and smash all this talentless manufactured rubbish to bits. It wouldn't happen though as they are not the sterile, mainstream sh**** the media loves to promote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 I agree to an extent, B. One of the only acts going who can replicate what they do on record on a stage. I dropped a bollock with the quote here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 I agree to an extent, but I think that Foo Fighters for one will go down as one of the greats. One of the only acts going who can replicate what they do on record on a stage. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 I agree to an extent, but I think that Foo Fighters for one will go down as one of the greats. One of the only acts going who can replicate what they do on record on a stage. There is so much wrong with this post that I don't know where to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 You sad bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 As one of my managers always says to us; it's all well and good coming to me with the problem, tell me what the solution is ffs! What would people moaning about XF like to see replace it? Do we really want a new Huey Green, Mickey Most et al? No, I thought not. fwiw I am willing to bet my favourite hat that Rebecca Ferguson will win it outright and rightly so. Current odds - 4/1 KERCHING NB i have £2.50 riding on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 (edited) The only talent on that show is the people who make the programme. It is genius how they have made a fortune by getting half the British public to give a **** about a bunch of talentless mongs. I do enjoy watching it though, not for the music, I just love watching them having their hopes crushed. Edited 5 December, 2010 by aintforever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 /\ Do you not think that Rebecca Ferguson has a great voice and a certain stage presence in spite of her not really moving about much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2010 The only talent on that show is the people who make the programme. It is genius how they have made a fortune by getting half the British public to give a **** about a bunch of talentless mongs. I do enjoy watching it though, not for the music, I just love watching them having their hopes crushed. yeah..and the scandal.....who would have thought that this year we would discover the UKs oldest whore....thrilling stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 It's just a TV show. The mongs are not the people on the show, but the mongs who vote, the mongs who buy the singles, and the mongs who buy the magazines. ie The General Public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 Prior to these (XF, BGT etc) who do people think made all the money from the commercialised home entertainment business? Just Simon Cowell is out there fronting his own venture should not make him and his shows the target of such jealous anger imho. He must employ thousands of people through his companies, if he was Rich Branson people would be hailing him not hating him. Vive le entrepeneur (sp) I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 Prior to these (XF, BGT etc) who do people think made all the money from the commercialised home entertainment business? Just Simon Cowell is out there fronting his own venture should not make him and his shows the target of such jealous anger imho. He must employ thousands of people through his companies, if he was Rich Branson people would be hailing him not hating him. Vive le entrepeneur (sp) I say. If I discovered a way of making £500m by slapping my pork sword around your ears, would you be saying the same thing? As Hatch said, it's not the fault of the contestant who are chasing their dream, or Cowell who has done a brilliant job lining his pockets from other peoples idiocy. It's the mongs who watch the show and buy the records. There are two guarantees about the Xfactor winners song. It will be sh*t and it will get to number 1. People will buy that record come rain or shine, regardless of how appaling it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 I agree to an extent, but I think that Foo Fighters for one will go down as one of the greats. One of the only acts going who can replicate what they do on record on a stage. Agreed, in a few years time people will look back on them and rate them up with the greats like the Beatles, Sum 41 and the Vengaboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 My sister used to go to Laine Theatre Arts in London. Before one of the series started a load of X Factor execs came to watch all the pupils to decide who to put through for auditions etc. It is a complete fix and I haven't watched an episode since the Gareth Gates one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2010 seriously..that cher is terrible yet they go on and on about how brilliant she is and how she will sell out concert halls etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 I have recently had a load of building work done and I'm up to my neck in DIY. The good thing about this is that instead of saying to the Mrs that I woud rather watch paint dry, I can go upstairs, roller a wall, pull up a chair (with a beer in hand) and watch the ****er dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2010 haha..the mics have stopped working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 Prior to these (XF, BGT etc) who do people think made all the money from the commercialised home entertainment business? Just Simon Cowell is out there fronting his own venture should not make him and his shows the target of such jealous anger imho. He must employ thousands of people through his companies, if he was Rich Branson people would be hailing him not hating him. Vive le entrepeneur (sp) I say. See Hamster, you're coming round slowy but surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 My sister used to go to Laine Theatre Arts in London. Before one of the series started a load of X Factor execs came to watch all the pupils to decide who to put through for auditions etc. It is a complete fix and I haven't watched an episode since the Gareth Gates one. I agree with hypo - I don't think we'll find another artist as good as Gareth Gates again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 If I discovered a way of making £500m by slapping my pork sword around your ears, would you be saying the same thing? As Hatch said, it's not the fault of the contestant who are chasing their dream, or Cowell who has done a brilliant job lining his pockets from other peoples idiocy. It's the mongs who watch the show and buy the records. There are two guarantees about the Xfactor winners song. It will be sh*t and it will get to number 1. People will buy that record come rain or shine, regardless of how appaling it is. I'd congratulate you. re your last sentence; you do know what (pile of **** imho) got to number 1 last year don't you? Someone made lots of money as a direct result of them going up against Cowell and ironically boosted the Cowell Machine's coffers too. I should stress that never in a month of Sundays would I buy the single but my point is that just cos I don;t like something does not make it rubbish, that would be quite silly of me in all honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2010 no..they never boosted cowells coffers at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 See Hamster, you're coming round slowy but surely. I do not have a clue what you are talking about. Apologies for my temporary loss of sanity; Simon Cowell is the anti-christ. Send him away for eternity to live in the jungle living on grubs and kangaroo testes. Now there's agood idea for a programme.....Nah, that would make too much money and I'd be hated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 no..they never boosted cowells coffers at all Oh yes they did dd. By exactly replicating the thinking behind buying that otheer release some people were motivated to buy the Cowell record. It's not even ironic, it was pathetic imho, all good fun for the neutral observer though. People (self included) like the sex pistol phenominum (sp) yet the XF effect would pale into insignificance compared to what a 'rip off' punk is/was, were it not for the fact that SC is better at it and would appear to share it around with a better socila conscience. fwiw, if Simon Cowell ever makes a film about how he royally shafted the british public I will gladly join you in hunting him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 /\ God save the queen (SP's version) is one of my all time fave records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2010 (edited) Oh yes they did dd. By exactly replicating the thinking behind buying that otheer release some people were motivated to buy the Cowell record. It's not even ironic, it was pathetic imho, all good fun for the neutral observer though. People (self included) like the sex pistol phenominum (sp) yet the XF effect would pale into insignificance compared to what a 'rip off' punk is/was, were it not for the fact that SC is better at it and would appear to share it around with a better socila conscience. fwiw, if Simon Cowell ever makes a film about how he royally shafted the british public I will gladly join you in hunting him down. rage against the machine were/are run by sony...simon cowell does not own sony....he owns (or owns the majority) of SiCo....Sony own the rest Edited 5 December, 2010 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2010 right..the bottom two this week cher and mary. mary sang much better in the sing off..but you know full well they will save cher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 if i urged yyou are playing with me aren;t you dd, you little minx. I know that you are not so silly as to believe what you are typing. Just in case you are being serious, no offence intended but everyone who bought RATM did so to get it to nuber 1 not because they wanted to own a copy for any other reason. Some of the people who bought Jo McEddery (sp - again!) did so to stop RATM winning the contest not because they wanted to own a copy. Cause and effect/affect i think it is called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2010 and cher goes through shock...horror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 Go to bed dd, you are over-tired mate. xx ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 if i urged yyou are playing with me aren;t you dd, you little minx. I know that you are not so silly as to believe what you are typing. Just in case you are being serious, no offence intended but everyone who bought RATM did so to get it to nuber 1 not because they wanted to own a copy for any other reason. Some of the people who bought Jo McEddery (sp - again!) did so to stop RATM winning the contest not because they wanted to own a copy. Cause and effect/affect i think it is called. If only everyone was as awesome as me and bought neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 and cher goes through shock...horror Id go through her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 Who are these people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 5 December, 2010 Share Posted 5 December, 2010 I've gone from wanting to sex Cher to wanting to punch her. In an ideal world, I'd sex her first and then punch her and leave. Although, if I had to pick between the two, I think she would be recieving a fist planted on her acne ridden face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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