Possible Banksy in Southampton

[Hatch]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-11827202

 

Well, it's not there any more as local yoof have spray painted over it.

 

I bet the property owner is well chuffed. (assuming it was a genuine Banksy)

[Dog]

Yes it was him, I saw him doing it at around 6.14am on the wednesday.

Edited 24 November, 2010 by Dog

[GenevaSaint]

It was on his website, not sure if that was him claiming it?

[Macey_J2]

Only yesterday the Echo reported about this image on a wall in B.V, and its already been defaced!

 

Image:

http://ventnorblog.com/copy_images/no-future-banksy-wooster.jpg

 

Todays story:

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8684295.Banksy_work_of_art_ruined/?ref=mr

 

Was supposedly worth 20k, randomly the Echo say "It is believed the urban warrior sprayed his iconic stencil en route to the Isle of Wight"! Questionable, seeing as the artists' identity is unknown!

 

I think its sad a jealous individual has white washed the work.

[Dog]

Is this true??

 

If so, he (Banksy) should be prosecuted for criminal damage.

[franny]

Only yesterday the Echo reported about this image on a wall in B.V, and its already been defaced!

 

Image:

http://ventnorblog.com/copy_images/no-future-banksy-wooster.jpg

 

Todays story:

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8684295.Banksy_work_of_art_ruined/?ref=mr

 

Was supposedly worth 20k, randomly the Echo say "It is believed the urban warrior sprayed his iconic stencil en route to the Isle of Wight"! Questionable, seeing as the artists' identity is unknown!

 

I think its sad a jealous individual has white washed the work.

 

It is sad it has been covered up and interestingly on the BBC news at lunchtime they put the value at up to £35k so clearly inflation is at work but consider it from another angle. Was it defacing the plain wall with the image first? If he did not have the owners permission perhaps the image could be construed simply as graffiti on private property by others? Why does the artist called Banksy not divulge his name, is it to maintain a mystique and drive up the price of his images or is it fear of being prosecuted or is it he is simply up himself ? What right does he have to impose his idea of art on others?

[toofarnorth]

Surely someone with appropriate expertise could restore that quite easily, as it looks like it's only a thin layer of paint. Would be a shame to lose it as long as the permission of the home owner is sought first.

[IamLeGod]

Is it impossible to think that he may have painted over it himself?

 

'No Future'...?

[the stain]

Is it impossible to think that he may have painted over it himself?

 

'No Future'...?

 

Have you tried thinking it?

[IamLeGod]

Thinking is for the weak. I tend to not let knowledge or information blur my decision making processes.

[alpine_saint]

Southampton : the home of brain dead idiots who dont even know how to spell "culture" and whose idea of creativity is going shopping at West Quay and getting blind drunk.

[Dog]

Southampton : the home of brain dead idiots who dont even know how to spell "culture" and whose idea of creativity is going shopping at West Quay and getting blind drunk.

 

That's rich coming from a country who lock up their own daughters & breed with them.

[the stain]

A sensible precaution.

[rallyboy]

I'm not sure that the systematic sexual, physical and mental abuse case you refer to was done as an art installation, so criticising it on creative grounds would be wrong.

Why couldn't he just do some watercolours of thatched stuff and bowls of fruit?

[saint_stevo]

Robin Gunningham

[Andy_Porter]

The idiot who done that could have at least done it properly and used masonry paint.

[Hamilton Saint]

What bothers me is this strange locution in the Echo article: "the Daily Echo can this morning reveal". And the author refers to the image as a "masterpiece". Really?

[st alex]

No one cares about street art unless its a Banksy.

 

I pointed out the stencil a couple of months ago on the grafitti thread, when I walked past it and recognised it from an image I saw on the web. It didn't take 2 months to verify it since it was on Banksy's website way back then, it's just that media have only just noticed it and brought it to the attention of morons who've now painted over it.

 

Although the original could have been interpreted as being an insult to Bevois Valley or Southampton, to say that those from the area have 'no future' is quite discriminatory.

[Gingeletiss]

Only yesterday the Echo reported about this image on a wall in B.V, and its already been defaced!

 

Image:

http://ventnorblog.com/copy_images/no-future-banksy-wooster.jpg

 

Todays story:

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8684295.Banksy_work_of_art_ruined/?ref=mr

 

Was supposedly worth 20k, randomly the Echo say "It is believed the urban warrior sprayed his iconic stencil en route to the Isle of Wight"! Questionable, seeing as the artists' identity is unknown!

 

I think its sad a jealous individual has white washed the work.

 

I think it's sad, that this individual, thinks he can go around defacing other peoples property, but hey!, we all have an opinion.

[SO16_Saint]

I think it's sad, that this individual, thinks he can go around defacing other peoples property, but hey!, we all have an opinion.

 

All have an opinion?

 

Not on here you don't laddie!!

[Hamilton Saint]

One man's graffito is another man's 35,000 pound mural.

Edited 25 November, 2010 by Hamilton Saint

[Lighthouse]

Southampton : the home of brain dead idiots who dont even know how to spell "culture" and whose idea of creativity is going shopping at West Quay and getting blind drunk.

 

Yes. Nobody from Austria has ever shown intollerance towards another culture. Oh no...

[mickn]

It is sad it has been covered up and interestingly on the BBC news at lunchtime they put the value at up to £35k so clearly inflation is at work but consider it from another angle. Was it defacing the plain wall with the image first? If he did not have the owners permission perhaps the image could be construed simply as graffiti on private property by others? Why does the artist called Banksy not divulge his name, is it to maintain a mystique and drive up the price of his images or is it fear of being prosecuted or is it he is simply up himself ? What right does he have to impose his idea of art on others?

 

How can they put a value on that? If I wanted to buy it how could I if it's painted on a wall?

[Sheaf Saint]

Southampton : the home of brain dead idiots who dont even know how to spell "culture" and whose idea of creativity is going shopping at West Quay and getting blind drunk.

 

In all fairness Alpine, replace West Quay with 'Any other shopping centre' and you've just described pretty much every town or city in the UK.

Edited 24 November, 2010 by Sheaf Saint

[aintforever]

Maybe the whitewashing was a work of art. An ironic post-modern reaction to the use of vandalism as a critique of modern culture perhaps?

Edited 24 November, 2010 by aintforever

[Redbul]

"What's this, then? "Romanes eunt domus"? People called Romanes, they go, the house?"

[alpine_saint]

Yes. Nobody from Austria has ever shown intollerance towards another culture. Oh no...

 

I am not from Austria though, am I ?

 

I am from Southampton. And things like this make me embarassed to say so.

[dune]

I fail to see how anyone can appreciate grafitti. Good on whoever white washed over it.

[Deppo]

If I went round painting stuff on walls and buildings, would that make me a modern artist? Would I be celebrated?

 

Would I f*ck.

 

This man needs to be hung up by the testicles.

[alpine_saint]

If I went round painting stuff on walls and buildings, would that make me a modern artist? Would I be celebrated?

 

Would I f*ck.

 

This man needs to be hung up by the testicles.

 

I fail to see how anyone can appreciate grafitti. Good on whoever white washed over it.

 

Spoken like true Sotonians.

 

Brings back fond memories of when I was excited in November 2004, looking forward to Xmas and discovering Southampton was going to have a German Christmas MArket, only to read on the letters page of the Echo :

 

"If I wanted to look at a row of wooden sheds, I would have gone to B & Q"

[benjii]

Look, I quite like that Banksy piece so I would have preferred it if it hadn't been amended, but that is my purely subjective relative viewpoint on the two "works". The fact is - and this is correct and if you don't agree you're completely missing the point - Banksy, or any fans thereof, have no moral recourse whatsoever against whoever defaced this. Banksy makes his statements on people's property without warning or endorsement. If someone chooses to make a statement on his works then that's just tough luck. End of story.

 

As for the comments about Southampton, this isn't the first time a Banksy has been defaced and it won't be the last. He is from Bristol and his work on Park Street in Bristol has been splatted by blue paint.

[Jonnyboy]

I think it's sad, that this individual, thinks he can go around defacing other peoples property, but hey!, we all have an opinion.

 

he can deface my property anytime he likes, itll shoot up in value!

[Jonnyboy]

I fail to see how anyone can appreciate grafitti. Good on whoever white washed over it.

 

thats alright, most of his stuff mocks you

[Lighthouse]

I am not from Austria though, am I ?

 

I am from Southampton. And things like this make me embarassed to say so.

 

Not really a statement on people from Southampton, just on pikeys in general.

[Jez]

Spoken like true Sotonians.

 

Brings back fond memories of when I was excited in November 2004, looking forward to Xmas and discovering Southampton was going to have a German Christmas MArket, only to read on the letters page of the Echo :

 

"If I wanted to look at a row of wooden sheds, I would have gone to B & Q"

 

I bet you hold grudges really well too!!

[Saint_Ash]

Is it criminal damage if it increases the object being defaced to increase in value? Especially by 35k!

[Rory]

As a regular Bristol goer, the Banksys that virtually remain untouched are the ones high up. Like the one in Upper Maudlin Street and the artwork near the O2 arena.

[Crab Lungs]

Southampton : the home of brain dead idiots who dont even know how to spell "culture" and whose idea of creativity is going shopping at West Quay and getting blind drunk.

 

Pretty good summary IMO.... and I live here!

[moon monkey]

After reading the report that the work had been scrubbed off, I hope Banksy won't bother visiting this truly ugly city.

[Deppo]

I heard that Banksy painted over it himself. He said that he wanted to create an artistic allegory of what alpine saint does on main board threads.