Redknapp, we all hate but we all know we missed out, don't we?

[Thedelldays]

And are man city above Spurs or not?

 

are man city in the champions league..beating the champions of europe..?

[up and away]

Redknapp and Lowe ??? was never going to work cos they both wanted to be in charge of the purse strings.If you hire a bloke like Harry you have to let him do it his way and wedge up when needed and don't look any too closely at what he does. What you don't want to do is hire one of your rugby mates to get under his feet and eventually under his skin.

 

The only thing Lowe got wrong with that twitchy faced tosser, was by not sacking him as soon as we went down. Lowe gave him open reign in the Premier and he failed woefully. Virtually £4.5M in that window and got out thought by Brian ******* Robson without a pot to **** in.

 

We over spent trying to stay in the Premier, when we went down we had no money and big over heads. Fuller would have been a good buy, 2 years down the line when he had recovered from his knees. The guy cannot coach, has the tactical nous that Keegan would doubt and has not a hope in hell without the right players. Redknapp for England, they should give Steve McLaren a knighthood on that basis.

[Turkish]

The only thing Lowe got wrong with that twitchy faced tosser, was by not sacking him as soon as we went down. Lowe gave him open reign in the Premier and he failed woefully. Virtually £4.5M in that window and got out thought by Brian ******* Robson without a pot to **** in.

 

We over spent trying to stay in the Premier, when we went down we had no money and big over heads. Fuller would have been a good buy, 2 years down the line when he had recovered from his knees. The guy cannot coach, has the tactical nous that Keegan would doubt and has not a hope in hell without the right players. Redknapp for England, they should give Steve McLaren a knighthood on that basis.

 

Two promotions, an FA Cup win, Two finals and currently manager of a champions league side who have just beaten the holders, not bad for a guy who cant coach with no tactical nouse.

[Tamesaint]

... not bad for a guy who cant coach with no tactical nouse.

 

But look at how Avram Grant (yes Avram Grant of all people!!) completely out thought him in last season's FA Cup semi final!!

 

I watched that game determined to support Spurs against the P*mpey scum and ended up being amazed at how Avram completely out thought him. Redknapp had no tactical nouse in that game so that the team who ended up being rock bottom of the league that season thoroughly defeated Spurs.

[Thedelldays]

But look at how Avram Grant (yes Avram Grant of all people!!) completely out thought him in last season's FA Cup semi final!!

 

I watched that game determined to support Spurs against the P*mpey scum and ended up being amazed at how Avram completely out thought him. Redknapp had no tactical nouse in that game so that the team who ended up being rock bottom of the league that season thoroughly defeated Spurs.

 

like saying dave merrington is a better manager than fergie...because whispering dave "out thought" fergie once at the dell when we beat utd...

[Turkish]

like saying dave merrington is a better manager than fergie...because whispering dave "out thought" fergie once at the dell when we beat utd...

 

Exactly Jamie, didn't Pompey win away at Man Utd en route to their FA cup win? Redknapp must be better than Fergie in that case too.

[Tamesaint]

like saying dave merrington is a better manager than fergie...because whispering dave "out thought" fergie once at the dell when we beat utd...

 

No. It is just an example of how Redknapp lacked tactical nous in a big game (FA Cup Semi Final ) and was in response to the comment that Redknapp did not lack tactical nous.

[John B]

I doubt if Adkins will get an imnterview for the next England Manager but I expect Harry will

[Turkish]

No. It is just an example of how Redknapp lacked tactical nous in a big game (FA Cup Semi Final ) and was in response to the comment that Redknapp did not lack tactical nous.

 

But he had the tactical nouse to beat Man U at Old Trafford on the way to winning the FA Cup, the reigning European Champions and too come back from 0-2 to win at Highbury yesterday.

[Trader]

I think it was pretty obvious when he was here that Gareth Bale wasn't really a full back - more of a left midfielder.

 

A bit like Wayne Bridge really.....

[Tamesaint]

But that is simpy not true, many players are better players under him, including Bale, who you used as an example against him. He has got the best out of olders players as as per my comments above look at his transfer record over his 26 years as a boss you find that he has spent £208.23 million and recouped £230.37 million A quick comparison with Rafael Benitez has the Liverpool manager spending £210 million since 2004 and only accruing £125 million in the same period. While in almost 24 years at Old Trafford, Alex Ferguson has spent £392.44 million on 89 players and made some £244 million by selling 216 players in that same time. You dont hear people blamning Man Utd debt of Alex Fergusson now do you.

 

 

I have no idea where these numbers have come from and whether they are correct. I have no idea of what is included in these numbers.

 

What I do know is that West Ham, Saints and Portsmouth have all experienced financial difficulties after he left them. Even Bournemouth have had their problems!!

 

Is this a co-incidence?? Maybe....but your figures above exclude reference to signing on fees and wages. Nowadays these need to be considered as well as transfer fees. I am pretty sure that the likes of Peter Crouch did not leave Champion League Liverpool for Pompey just to enjoy the Portsmouth air. The same could be said of Sol Campbell, Jermain Defoe, Glen Johnson etc etc. No wonder Pompey are up financial s*it creek without a paddle.

 

Give the man resources and he will / can deliver ..... but by god he needs plenty of resources!!

[Thedelldays]

Give the man resources and he will / can deliver ..... but by god he needs plenty of resources!!

 

you could levy that against mourinho...fergie...mancini...benitez...even dalgleish back in 1995 or when ever it was...

 

it costs money (lots) just to compete...all the top managers need serious wonga..the only one who has done it on the cheap (relatively) is wenger...which is an exception

 

 

you could even say that about pardew last season when we blew everyone out of the water in this league and would have finished 5th..

[thesaint sfc]

Hate him but 100% correct. He signed Ricardo Fuller with that money - and IMO he was a fantastic player - certainly would take him back now wouldn't we!

[Dazza82]

But he had the tactical nouse to beat Man U at Old Trafford on the way to winning the FA Cup, the reigning European Champions and too come back from 0-2 to win at Highbury yesterday.

 

Add to that the ability to guide his team to 4th in the league the first time for years!

 

Then guide them through the qualifying rounds,Also its been 17 years since beat arsenal on their patch.

[Turkish]

I have no idea where these numbers have come from and whether they are correct. I have no idea of what is included in these numbers.

 

What I do know is that West Ham, Saints and Portsmouth have all experienced financial difficulties after he left them. Even Bournemouth have had their problems!!

 

Is this a co-incidence?? Maybe....but your figures above exclude reference to signing on fees and wages. Nowadays these need to be considered as well as transfer fees. I am pretty sure that the likes of Peter Crouch did not leave Champion League Liverpool for Pompey just to enjoy the Portsmouth air. The same could be said of Sol Campbell, Jermain Defoe, Glen Johnson etc etc. No wonder Pompey are up financial s*it creek without a paddle.

 

Give the man resources and he will / can deliver ..... but by god he needs plenty of resources!!

 

The figures came from this article. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...rd-in-football You could argue that about any manager re signing on fees wages etc. unless i am mistaken dont the board sign off transfers and agree contracts with the manager simply identifying players they wish to sign and letting the chairman do the rest? Any manager will tell you they need new players and give them money they will spend it, they wouldn't be doing their job probably if they weren't constantly looking to improve their squad. But based on those figures in that article Redknapp has produced a net profit on his overall transfers in his management career, which disproves the myth that he bankrupts clubs. Just talking about Saints, adminstration was nothing to do with him, and as far as i am aware West Ham, Pompeys and Bournemouths financial problems were nothing to do with him either, as i say, he doesn't sign the cheques now does he.

 

And as for your comment about him needing plenty of rescources, you could say that about any manager, give them money they will spend it. BUt look at some of his transfers, £5m for Diarra, a pitance by PL standards, sold for £18m, Sully Muntari, signed for £7m, sold for more than double, neither of which costing heaven and earth by PL standards. As well as already noted his ability to improve players he has, only a fool would say he cant spot a decent player and cant bring out the best in those that he has.

Edited 21 November, 2010 by Turkish

[Dazza82]

I have no idea where these numbers have come from and whether they are correct. I have no idea of what is included in these numbers.

 

What I do know is that West Ham, Saints and Portsmouth have all experienced financial difficulties after he left them. Even Bournemouth have had their problems!!

 

Is this a co-incidence?? Maybe....but your figures above exclude reference to signing on fees and wages. Nowadays these need to be considered as well as transfer fees. I am pretty sure that the likes of Peter Crouch did not leave Champion League Liverpool for Pompey just to enjoy the Portsmouth air. The same could be said of Sol Campbell, Jermain Defoe, Glen Johnson etc etc. No wonder Pompey are up financial s*it creek without a paddle.

 

Give the man resources and he will / can deliver ..... but by god he needs plenty of resources!!

 

Yes. Bournemouth had their troubles long after he left, West ham was due to the Icelandic bank collapse (they were owned by Icelandics), Us could be down to many reasons i look back to after redknapp left us and burley came in and spent 7m (so we couldnt of been that skint after he left) to gamble on promotion which didnt happen and that was our downfall. Pompey was down to bad management by the owners and living beyond there means.

 

Who is to blame for the money troubles at leeds,derby,cardiff,sheff wed, palace and alike?? Redknapp??

 

No, The buck stops with the money men(owners) they make final decisions on everything

[Crab Lungs]

He's a good manager - as long as he's allowed to manage *his way* (meaning; jobs for the boys, debatable transfer dealings etc)

 

His lack of success here was Rupes keeping him on leash. That said, besides a few last minute goals, it could have been very different under him. We weren't actually that far away from staying up. One or two goals difference at the end of games, that's all.

[Turkish]

He's a good manager - as long as he's allowed to manage *his way* (meaning; jobs for the boys, debatable transfer dealings etc)

 

His lack of success here was Rupes keeping him on leash. That said, besides a few last minute goals, it could have been very different under him. We weren't actually that far away from staying up. One or two goals difference at the end of games, that's all.

 

the 2-2 draw at home to Middlesborough when 2-0 up injury time, last minute equlisers at home to Everton and away to Arsenal!

 

What would you rather have had, him keeping us up his way, or relegated and all that followed Ruperts way?

[sambosa75]

to be fair...he has hardly spent any money at spurs

 

Eh?

 

Jermain Colin Defoe (£15m, Portsmouth)

Wilson Roberto Palacios Suazo (£12m, Wigan)

Pascal Chimbonda (£2.5m, Sunderland)

Robert David Keane (£12m, Liverpool)

Peter James Crouch (undisclosed, Portsmouth) - wasnt it about £11m?

Kyle Walker (undisclosed, Sheffield United) - thought to be around £3m

Kyle Naughton (undisclosed, Sheffield United) - thought to be around £3.5m

Sébastien Aymar Bassong Nguena (undisclosed, Newcastle United) - thought to be around £8m

Younes Kaboul (undisclosed, Portsmouth) - thought to be around £7m

Rafael Van Der Vaart (£9m, Real Madrid)

 

Around £83m

 

He's made around £19m by way of sales by my records.

 

If that's not spending, I'd like to see what is.

 

He's a cheque book record with a great record in the transfer market, but it doesnt stop him being a chequebook manager.

[Crab Lungs]

the 2-2 draw at home to Middlesborough when 2-0 up injury time, last minute equlisers at home to Everton and away to Arsenal!

 

What would you rather have had, him keeping us up his way, or relegated and all that followed Ruperts way?

 

 

Hmmm, whilst I was glad that Rupes kept him in check, honestly... would have much preferred to stay up! I like the lower leagues... It has been fun, it has been exciting and it's been good to see us win more games but - I do miss the Premier League. It's what I grew up with and I guess, in a sense, I was spoilt. I want us to get back there as soon as but seeing as you asked; yes, I'd have much rather have not left in the first place!

[Turkish]

Hmmm, whilst I was glad that Rupes kept him in check, honestly... would have much preferred to stay up! I like the lower leagues... It has been fun, it has been exciting and it's been good to see us win more games but - I do miss the Premier League. It's what I grew up with and I guess, in a sense, I was spoilt. I want us to get back there as soon as but seeing as you asked; yes, I'd have much rather have not left in the first place!

 

I think if it had just been relegation to the championship then that would have been okay. But two relegations, administration, fans turning on each other, such as at the Doncaster game a few years back and all the board room nonsense, rubbish football, seeing the likes of Bale & Walcott not only sold off but us being mugged off too stay out of admin, i even found celebrating a last day win to stay in the championship like we had won the league embarassing. Give me staying up Harrys way anyday. Cant but regularly think what if everytime i see Bale, Walcott, Crouch etc play.

[Dazza82]

Eh?

 

Jermain Colin Defoe (£15m, Portsmouth)

Wilson Roberto Palacios Suazo (£12m, Wigan)

Pascal Chimbonda (£2.5m, Sunderland)

Robert David Keane (£12m, Liverpool)

Peter James Crouch (undisclosed, Portsmouth) - wasnt it about £11m?

Kyle Walker (undisclosed, Sheffield United) - thought to be around £3m

Kyle Naughton (undisclosed, Sheffield United) - thought to be around £3.5m

Sébastien Aymar Bassong Nguena (undisclosed, Newcastle United) - thought to be around £8m

Younes Kaboul (undisclosed, Portsmouth) - thought to be around £7m

Rafael Van Der Vaart (£9m, Real Madrid)

 

Around £83m

 

He's made around £19m by way of sales by my records.

 

If that's not spending, I'd like to see what is.

 

 

Unless your Daniel Levy you dont know the exact figures or if all of those fees were paid upfront or on installments and clauses.

 

Plus you said they made 19m on sale but havent taken into account the undisclosed sale of Taarabt, Plus the loans of some first team squad players which also would of incurred a loan fee for each loan

[Crab Lungs]

I think if it had just been relegation to the championship then that would have been okay. But two relegations, administration, fans turning on each other, such as at the Doncaster game a few years back and all the board room nonsense, rubbish football, seeing the likes of Bale & Walcott not only sold off but us being mugged off too stay out of admin, i even found celebrating a last day win to stay in the championship like we had won the league embarassing. Give me staying up Harrys way anyday. Cant but regularly think what if everytime i see Bale, Walcott, Crouch etc play.

 

Likewise with the players we produced. It's incredible, really, the level of quality and frequency/volume of the talent in recent years. Off the top of my head, I cannot think of another team which has produced players of that quality, in that short space of time and at the rate we did - and we've another two off the production line since in AL and AOC.

 

It is hypothetical but who knows where we might have been today if we'd stayed up? Would we have kept those players? What ones would have been given an opportunity? What ones would have left? How many of them can realistically do it in the Prem...

 

... actually, wouldn't mind writing a fictional, topical novel on that scenario!

[aintforever]

You can't doubt his talent as a manager, but was never right for us with Lowe giving him peanuts to spend.

 

When you see what he's doing at Spurs it makes you cringe thinking about Lowe forcing him to work with rugby coaches and non league ex-school teachers.

[Dazza82]

I dont remeber him being linked to us back then! does anyone else?

 

 

Just months before being promoted to the manager's seat at Upton Park, he was linked with the managerial vacancy at Southampton after the departure of previous manager Ian Branfoot, but the job went to Alan Ball instead

Edited 21 November, 2010 by Dazza82

[Turkish]

Likewise with the players we produced. It's incredible, really, the level of quality and frequency/volume of the talent in recent years. Off the top of my head, I cannot think of another team which has produced players of that quality, in that short space of time and at the rate we did - and we've another two off the production line since in AL and AOC.

 

It is hypothetical but who knows where we might have been today if we'd stayed up? Would we have kept those players? What ones would have been given an opportunity? What ones would have left? How many of them can realistically do it in the Prem...

 

... actually, wouldn't mind writing a fictional, topical novel on that scenario!

 

Even if we hadn't have kept them we'd have been able to get a lot more money for them. With both we had to sell, if we'd have stayed up we could have held out for much more. You're though, no other club has produced such players of high quality, just a shame they all had to be sold off.

[Saint_clark]

to be fair...he has hardly spent any money at spurs

 

You reckon?

[Thedelldays]

You reckon?

 

yes..compare to city...chelsea...man utd....yes I do reckon

took spurs from bottom to champions league and beat the european champs in 2 years..

 

yeah, I do reckon

[Saint_clark]

yes..compare to city...chelsea...man utd....yes I do reckon

took spurs from bottom to champions league and beat the european champs in 2 years..

 

yeah, I do reckon

 

Spurs already had a top 6 team when he arrived. For some reason the players just didn't like Ramos.

[aintforever]

Spurs already had a top 6 team when he arrived. For some reason the players just didn't like Ramos.

 

Spurs have always spent shed loads of cash - only Redknapp has got them Champions League football.

[Weston Saint]

I dont remeber him being linked to us back then! does anyone else?

 

 

Just months before being promoted to the manager's seat at Upton Park, he was linked with the managerial vacancy at Southampton after the departure of previous manager Ian Branfoot, but the job went to Alan Ball instead

 

I spoke to Harry on the phone about that when Branfoot sacked. He said there was no chance as McMenemy was still living too near to the Chairman and influencing things at Southampton. He would have liked an opportunity.

[Crab Lungs]

Even if we hadn't have kept them we'd have been able to get a lot more money for them. With both we had to sell, if we'd have stayed up we could have held out for much more. You're though, no other club has produced such players of high quality, just a shame they all had to be sold off.

 

We had United in the early nineties (Giggs, Nevilles, Beckham etc), then West Ham late nineties (Lampard, Ferdinand, Cole, Carrick) then ourselves (Bale, Baird, Walcott and a plethora of other possibles (Surman, Blackstock, Best, McGoldrick, Howard), including current players Lallana and AOC...). Obviously, in comparison the latter of our products haven't reached Bale/Walcott-esque heights but we've still produced a huge quantity of Championship/Prem players in such a small space of time.

 

I agree though, we'd have been able to keep Bale/Walcott much, much longer than we did if we'd not been relegated. I think the likes of Bale and Walcott also wouldn't have been shown the door either; they would have come through and played in the Premier League with no problem at all, much like Oakley, Bridge did.

 

Oh, what if

[Colinjb]

I spoke to Harry on the phone about that when Branfoot sacked. He said there was no chance as McMenemy was still living too near to the Chairman and influencing things at Southampton. He would have liked an opportunity.

 

Wasn't he also linked to us when Glenn Hoddle left us back in 2001?

[Noodles34]

Wasn't he also linked to us when Glenn Hoddle left us back in 2001?

 

we appointed WGS over Redknapp, common knowledge that he had an interview and at that time he was well up for it, but obviously Strachan got the nod.

I remeber when we beat the Skates (might have been the cup game) and he was quoted as saying what a big club we were with the faciliies, ground etc, etc and no comparrison to portsmouth (obviously before the Russian came on board), and he'd love to have it there. You always had the feeling that this was the job he always wanted after WHU but by the time he got it, we were were in trouble on the pitch and heading for plenty offit, thanks to RL and his visions.

Lets face it, you get the job you want (theres no way he walked out down the road without having SMS lined up) and then your boss brings in someone above you that has no experience of that field, you are told to play the kids when they aint ready and your transfer requests are blocked. He is a moany, whingy old git but working under Lowe? Well. who wouldn't be?

Lets say we get to the PL, and we have lots of cash, HCDAJFU?

[Rebel]

Your forgetting all the money he's spent in player wages - not just transfer fees. It was this that sent Bournemouth and Portsmouth into administration - and left West Ham in a real mess and Glen Roeder with his hands tied when it came to transfers - and with a squad that got relegated.

 

Anyone could have built a great squad at Portsmouth with the money he spent - and all he won was one very lucky FA cup. It's not like he signed unknown players or paid small transfer fees either.

 

Spurs are just as likely to implode under him as make the top 4 or win something.

 

He got lucky with Bale - but seems to have got very little out of Keane, Bentley or Naughton or Walker at Spurs

[wessex saint]

redknapp... came to Saints and one of the 1st things he said was that we had no leader in the back 4 and conceded too many goals.

He then signed Bernard and Davenport in January.

 

cut to May and we're relegated. redknapp quoted as saying the reason we went down is we just didn't have any leaders at the back and conceded too many.

 

My point? He publicly identified a problem... had money and time to address it.... got it wrong..... blamed it on the squad he inherited.

 

Twitchy is a slimy east end crook who has never taken ANY responsibility for the demise of all the clubs he has managed.

[hypochondriac]

Hate him but 100% correct. He signed Ricardo Fuller with that money - and IMO he was a fantastic player - certainly would take him back now wouldn't we!

 

Speak for yourself. There is no way I would take him back now. I would have to stop supporting saints whilst he was in charge.

[Chin Strain]

redknapp... came to Saints and one of the 1st things he said was that we had no leader in the back 4 and conceded too many goals.

He then signed Bernard and Davenport in January.

 

cut to May and we're relegated. redknapp quoted as saying the reason we went down is we just didn't have any leaders at the back and conceded too many.

 

My point? He publicly identified a problem... had money and time to address it.... got it wrong..... blamed it on the squad he inherited.

 

Twitchy is a slimy east end crook who has never taken ANY responsibility for the demise of all the clubs he has managed.

 

This.

 

Plus the fact that he didn't want to be here, which was obvious to all (sauce: a player who was at the club at the time)

Edited 21 November, 2010 by Chin Strain

[Tamesaint]

adminstration was nothing to do with him, and as far as i am aware West Ham, Pompeys and Bournemouths financial problems were nothing to do with him either, as i say, he doesn't sign the cheques now does he.

 

 

 

You don't really believe that do you??

 

Pompey go out and acquire half the England side on gates of 18k and their subsequent financial problems are a pure coincidence?? I don't think that the two are unconnected!!

[Tamesaint]

you could levy that against mourinho...fergie...mancini...benitez...even dalgleish back in 1995 or when ever it was...

 

it costs money (lots) just to compete...all the top managers need serious wonga..the only one who has done it on the cheap (relatively) is wenger...which is an exception

 

 

 

Most of the managers you refer to abovve are in a totally different league than Harry.

 

Mourinho has won Champion Leagues with different clubs. Fergie has won Champion Leagues and 20 plus other trophies. Benitez has won European trophies. Dalglish did the double in the days when nobody did that. All Redknapp has to boast about is a dodgy FA cup win and the fact that his team beat the European champions after losing to them the previous week.

 

I think you have read too much of Harry's self publicity if you think that he can be comapared with them.

[Noodles34]

Speak for yourself. There is no way I would take him back now. I would have to stop supporting saints whilst he was in charge.

 

I'd have to agree there, even though i have put a case forward that he could have done a job for us (and probably (on management abilities..arguably) could do a better one with money), after all that has gone on, if he ever came back, it would be very, very hard to go SMS.

I can't wait until one day we get Spurs, and there is only one chant and thats "Twitch in a minute....He's gonna twitch in a minute, .....Twitch in a minute.....", its funny and even better he really hates it, actually became very upset about it, can't ****ing wait!

[Crispypie]

Its a slippery slope, surely it cant just be a coincidence?

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11733227

[sfc1971]

Needs Joe Jordan in order to be successful. Knew when he didn't bring him here that something wasn't right.

 

 

And been helped out by his good friend (who he shat on) Jim Smith.

[St_Tel49]

taking Spurs from bottom to the champions league in less than two seasons??? I am no bigger fan of him than anyone, i dont like the bloke, but the myth that he spends fortunes and leaves clubs skint is nonsense and not backed up by facts.

 

These stats make interesting reading and disprove the myth. People just need to get over it and accept that he is bloody good manager who failed here because of Lowe....

 

"Between 1994 and 2001 at West Ham, he signed 58 players for the Hammers, spending £52.09 million, bringing £77.01 million into the club."

"In just two years at Fratton Park, 'Arry signed 41 players for £7.65 million and sold 41 players for £5.4 million." (first spell in charge)

At Saints - "In just one season at the club he signed eight players for £2.57 million, but sold 18 players for £16 million as he began a clear out at the club."

Second stint at Pompey -"It is worth noting that although Redknapp's time in charge of Portsmouth ended in a deficit of some £40 million, the club has since gone on to sell many of the players he signed while he was there, giving the club a staggering £103,940,000 million in sales in just three years. A massive profit of around £30 million for the struggling club."

"look at his transfer record over his 26 years as a boss you find that he has spent £208.23 million and recouped £230.37 million A quick comparison with Rafael Benitez has the Liverpool manager spending £210 million since 2004 and only accruing £125 million in the same period. While in almost 24 years at Old Trafford, Alex Ferguson has spent £392.44 million on 89 players and made some £244 million by selling 216 players in that same time"

 

Taken from this article

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/368365-harry-redknapp-transfer-history-1984-to-2010-best-record-in-football

 

Balance of transfers is only half the story. What about the wages- those are what really did for Pompey.

[CB Fry]

we appointed WGS over Redknapp, common knowledge that he had an interview and at that time he was well up for it, but obviously Strachan got the nod.

I remeber when we beat the Skates (might have been the cup game) and he was quoted as saying what a big club we were with the faciliies, ground etc, etc and no comparrison to portsmouth (obviously before the Russian came on board), and he'd love to have it there. You always had the feeling that this was the job he always wanted after WHU but by the time he got it, we were were in trouble on the pitch and heading for plenty offit, thanks to RL and his visions.

Lets face it, you get the job you want (theres no way he walked out down the road without having SMS lined up) and then your boss brings in someone above you that has no experience of that field, you are told to play the kids when they aint ready and your transfer requests are blocked. He is a moany, whingy old git but working under Lowe? Well. who wouldn't be?

Lets say we get to the PL, and we have lots of cash, HCDAJFU?

 

 

You're mixing things up. The Woodward thing was only after Redknapp had so skilfully relegated us by telling the press at every opportunity how rubbish the players were.

 

Redknapp and Saints (read: Lowe) was never ever going to work - even if he had kept us up I doubt he would have been around for much longer anyway.

[Wes Tender]

If we'd hired him the first time he met Rupert it may well have turned out better, can't remember what marvel we got that time, Stuart Gray maybe.The right man for the job my arse, a criminal decision from our beloved ex Chairman.

 

I'm with you here. We should have got him the first time that he was available. He was living locally and seemed to be up for coming here, but apparently never got the telephone call from Lowe inviting him for an interview.

[Turkish]

Balance of transfers is only half the story. What about the wages- those are what really did for Pompey.

 

So does the manager decided the wages or is it the chairman and money people?

[Turkish]

You don't really believe that do you??

 

Pompey go out and acquire half the England side on gates of 18k and their subsequent financial problems are a pure coincidence?? I don't think that the two are unconnected!!

 

Once again, who agrees the fees and wages at a club? Is it the manager or the chairman? 90% of mangers if offered the chance to sign Jermain Defoe/Diarra/Muntari etc is going to take them.

[Ken Tone]

taking Spurs from bottom to the champions league in less than two seasons??? I am no bigger fan of him than anyone, i dont like the bloke, but the myth that he spends fortunes and leaves clubs skint is nonsense and not backed up by facts.

 

These stats make interesting reading and disprove the myth. People just need to get over it and accept that he is bloody good manager who failed here because of Lowe....

 

"Between 1994 and 2001 at West Ham, he signed 58 players for the Hammers, spending £52.09 million, bringing £77.01 million into the club."

"In just two years at Fratton Park, 'Arry signed 41 players for £7.65 million and sold 41 players for £5.4 million." (first spell in charge)

At Saints - "In just one season at the club he signed eight players for £2.57 million, but sold 18 players for £16 million as he began a clear out at the club."

Second stint at Pompey -"It is worth noting that although Redknapp's time in charge of Portsmouth ended in a deficit of some £40 million, the club has since gone on to sell many of the players he signed while he was there, giving the club a staggering £103,940,000 million in sales in just three years. A massive profit of around £30 million for the struggling club."

"look at his transfer record over his 26 years as a boss you find that he has spent £208.23 million and recouped £230.37 million A quick comparison with Rafael Benitez has the Liverpool manager spending £210 million since 2004 and only accruing £125 million in the same period. While in almost 24 years at Old Trafford, Alex Ferguson has spent £392.44 million on 89 players and made some £244 million by selling 216 players in that same time"

 

Taken from this article

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/368365-harry-redknapp-transfer-history-1984-to-2010-best-record-in-football

 

That is pretty typical Redknapp propaganda. Transfer fees are amost irrelevant nowadays compared to players wages. Redknapp leaves clubs skint because he overpays and gives players long contracts on those high wages ...and that's not even counting any alleged brown envelopes and the "odd" agents' fees.

 

When a premiership player can be paid over £10 milion a year and be given a 4 year contract, then leave on a free transfer, transfer fees are only half the story at most.

[Ken Tone]

So does the manager decided the wages or is it the chairman and money people?

 

You can't have it both ways. You seem to be praising him for the transfer fees but blaming someone else for the wages. Ever since bloody Bosman ruined football's finances, wages and fees have been tied up together.