Training Ground Planning...

[georgeweahscousin]

......applied for.

 

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/8675273.Saints_submit_ground_plans/?ref=rss

[Saint_clark]

Once again the echo publish training ground plans before the club announce it

[Matthew Le God]

Not listed on the New Forest District councils webstite (yet) if you do a search for SO40 4WR. Just lists the main building development proposed in 2009 and granted in January 2010 as the last application.

Edited 18 November, 2010 by Matthew Le God

[bowers-sfc]

I know that's only part of the plans, but sounds nothing like the original plans before..?

 

Sounds like just basic upgrades to what we have now.

Maybe the Money has stopped flowing so much?

[derry]

Also sounds like additional work, stand, security and groundsmans hut.

[Liquidshokk]

Off topic ish but whats the crack with the training ground anyway... can you go down and watch the players train and have a look around as you wish or is everything behind closed doors. Never been down there before and would like to. I think someone confirmed before that all reserver games are behind closed doors but im guessing if they are going to put a new stand in then this will change???

[Golden Balls]

I know that's only part of the plans, but sounds nothing like the original plans before..?

 

Sounds like just basic upgrades to what we have now.

Maybe the Money has stopped flowing so much?

 

To me, these sound like extra plans on top of the already agreed plans before?

[Matthew Le God]

The original plans I don't think mentioned any of the things proposed in the Echo article today. Seems they are in addition to those granted planning permission in Feb 2010.

[RobM]

To me, these sound like extra plans on top of the already agreed plans before?

 

It could be that they want to make changes to the already agreed plan and have had to re-submit the plans for some parts. That's not uncommon for any planning application if changes are made after approval. It can even be really simple stuff, it doesn't have to be particularly complicated.

[niceandfriendly]

It'll be interesting if someone asks Cortese about the plans at the Fans forum in the new year. It has gone rather quiet on the Staplewood front.

[Weston Saint]

Echo suggests they are bigger and better than the previous development proposals. Put's paid to those rumours that there is no money available from the family?

[Liquidshokk]

Off topic ish but whats the crack with the training ground anyway... can you go down and watch the players train and have a look around as you wish or is everything behind closed doors. Never been down there before and would like to. I think someone confirmed before that all reserver games are behind closed doors but im guessing if they are going to put a new stand in then this will change???

 

Thanks guys :-)

[Saint_clark]

Thanks guys :-)

 

No-one knows. Best bet is to ring the club.

[hypochondriac]

Echo suggests they are bigger and better than the previous development proposals. Put's paid to those rumours that there is no money available from the family?

 

Hope so. Lets wait till it actually happens though.

[The9]

Echo suggests they are bigger and better than the previous development proposals. Put's paid to those rumours that there is no money available from the family?

 

Not if the money had already been set aside for the development before Markus' death and Cortese's been spending the time since the original announcement renegotiating the contracts to get better value for money... it could be at the same cost for a bigger project. There must be SOME reason why the original plans didn't happen and the delay has occurred.

 

The key here is whether the money was tied up by Markus prior to the original announcement.

[Sour Mash]

Not if the money had already been set aside for the development before Markus' death and Cortese's been spending the time since the original announcement renegotiating the contracts to get better value for money... it could be at the same cost for a bigger project. There must be SOME reason why the original plans didn't happen and the delay has occurred.

 

The key here is whether the money was tied up by Markus prior to the original announcement.

 

I doubt the contracts were renegotiated to get better value for money, that doesn't happen in the COnstruction industry. More like they went back to the plans and revisited what they were going to do, where savings/improvements could be made before going out to tender with a scope of work NC was fully happy with.

[ottery st mary]

Spoke to a builder for the site...He said, "Let us take one brick at a time." or was it one pr...

 

PS There were four of us asking him questions at the same time...so it maybe I misheard his statement:blush:

Edited 19 November, 2010 by ottery st mary

[MarkSFC]

Maybe after Reed amd Hunter arrived they suggested a few things. Maybe as the Echo suggests, they have merely done a bit more research at other Academy/training grounds and decided to implement more and better improvements.

 

God forbid this is actually a good thing.....although it appears to have been delayed Cortese said that when they announced it first time round that they had actually brought it forward in the overall plan. I would have thought that the important thing is to get the best project they can in time for the Prem....

 

No money.....my Rse!!!!

[The9]

I doubt the contracts were renegotiated to get better value for money, that doesn't happen in the COnstruction industry. More like they went back to the plans and revisited what they were going to do, where savings/improvements could be made before going out to tender with a scope of work NC was fully happy with.

 

That pretty much sounds like the same thing to me - bearing in mind Cortese appears to have put the kibosh on the original deal for reasons which remain unclear. Better outcome, but same costs, better value for money.

[hypochondriac]

I doubt the contracts were renegotiated to get better value for money, that doesn't happen in the COnstruction industry. More like they went back to the plans and revisited what they were going to do, where savings/improvements could be made before going out to tender with a scope of work NC was fully happy with.

 

Are we sure it is the same company? I highly doubt it.

[Smirking_Saint]

Wouldn't have thought it was the same company doing the work.

[Matthew Le God]

Still no sign of any new applications on the New Forest Council planning website. Last entry remains the one granted permission early in 2010.

[hypochondriac]

Still no sign of any new applications on the New Forest Council planning website. Last entry remains the one granted permission early in 2010.

 

Hmmm.

[Window Cleaner]

Still no sign of any new applications on the New Forest Council planning website. Last entry remains the one granted permission early in 2010.

 

and the importance of this is ?????

[diggs]

Does any one know if you can still go watch the players train at Staplewood??????

[Liquidshokk]

Does any one know if you can still go watch the players train at Staplewood??????

 

Apparently not or don't know was the response last time I asked about this. Certainly the games are behind closed doors these days.