Puncheon joins Millwall on loan - OS

[doddisalegend]

ah big difference is we all had our issues with RL over the way the club was clearly not run in a way we wanted, and the countless other issues we had with him. Leftback has constant swipes without really backing up his reasons. Yes, maybe his reasons are genuine but he doesnt have to swipe at him with every post. It is also odd that LB appeared after AP went, there is definitely an agenda of sorts here

 

So if the majority don't like the chairman it's ok to have an issue with him, however if lots of people don't agree with you you're just a s hit stirring trouble maker?

Edited 17 November, 2010 by doddisalegend

[LostBoys]

He has been a bit of enigma. In his early days he was quite excellent but recently he has been just awful - cannot trap a bag of cement cannot cross cannot pass. Very disappointing.

[The9]

a few below par games just like any other wideman. But in general his laid back style just grates with some fans who choose to ignore the decent things he does and then jump on his back as soon as he does something bad.

 

I thought he had turned it round to be honest. He started passing quicker and he had a very good game against Tranmere. But once fans have made their mind up its very hard to turn them round and Chamberlain was a revelation straight away.

 

I agree with this entirely. Anyone suggested Butterfield as cover for the right midfield position yet ? Or switching wings for Lallana, which he's already done umpteen times during matches this season, meaning we'd have the option of Dickson on the left ?

 

Puncheon served a role and did reasonably well, picked up a fair bit after a poor start (like the rest of them) and if nothing else, has given me a reason to actually believe leftback's stuff now, which I can't say I did before.

[The9]

So if the majority don't like the chairman it's ok to have an issue with him, however if lots of people don't agree with you you're just a s hit stirring trouble maker?

 

Clearly reflecting the majority view is the easier path. Of course the pro-Cortese group took a bit of a hammering when he fired Pardew, but then Markus died and lots of people seemed to go a bit soft...

[trousers]

As an aside, why do Millwall need an "emergency" loan in the first place? Surely they've got a squad big enough to fill the midfield week in, week out?

 

Emergency loans for goalkeepers I can understand. But a midfielder?

[JustMike]

So if the majority don't like the chairman it's ok to have an issue with him, however if lots of people don't agree with you you're just a s hit stirring trouble maker?

 

are we seriously comparing RL and NC and putting them both in the same bracket? RL ruined us, we all know that. LB has an agenda with NC for whatever reason and he uses every post to hammer it home without actually saying what his problem is. And yes, LB could be classed as a s hit stirring trouble maker, i am sure the club are delighted with what he has posted on here

[John B]

are we seriously comparing RL and NC and putting them both in the same bracket? RL ruined us, we all know that. LB has an agenda with NC for whatever reason and he uses every post to hammer it home without actually saying what his problem is. And yes, LB could be classed as a s hit stirring trouble maker, i am sure the club are delighted with what he has posted on here

 

I do not think Lowe ruined us he may well have contributed to our relegation but he got us a stadium a FA CUP FINAL and other things with very little money.

 

On the other hand Cortese got us a JPT Trophy and an under performing team despite the backing of a billionaire and has upset the press old players and some season ticket holders so some fans may not think he is with out criticsism

[doddisalegend]

are we seriously comparing RL and NC and putting them both in the same bracket? RL ruined us, we all know that. LB has an agenda with NC for whatever reason and he uses every post to hammer it home without actually saying what his problem is. And yes, LB could be classed as a s hit stirring trouble maker, i am sure the club are delighted with what he has posted on here

 

No of course I'm not. I'm pointing out that your comment is absurd it was ok for people to to have a problem with Lowe becuase you agreed with them however becuase you don't have a problem with NC no one else is allowed to have a problem with him. Leftback has always stated his problem with NC is he is not a football person and doesn't know what he is doing a opinion that is based on the info he has got from his source I may not agree with LB about every thing he says but he has a right to say it.

 

Regardless of his opinion of NC his info is proving to be right time after time.

[SaintRichmond]

After much speculation, the official website has confirmed it http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2222518,00.html

 

A telling example that there is still unrest at St Mary's

 

IMHO, he has not been happy for a long time, and one of MANY who thought we would be in the CCC this season

 

Not "football" I know, but I lost all respect for him when he turned up at Markus's Service at St Mary's Church in jeans

 

(nothing wrong with jeans, but NOT at a Rememberance Service)

 

Just watch him perform for Millwall

[SFC Forever]

You cannot blame NC for the players that AP brought into the club, unless he refused AP the money for players that he really wanted, and he had to get alternatives. I can't believe this happened so apart from upsetting a few people he has done all that he coul;d to give us a better team.

[beancounter saint]

Just watch him perform for Millwall

 

Yes, probably only for a few weeks though, or until he gets a contract, if past form is anything to go by!

[corky morris]

Hands up - I am not JP's biggest fan. But this funeral story reminds me of a certain Mr Marsden who performed brilliantly for Saints. I play 5 a-side with a load of Wolves fans who told about how he was very direspectful at Jack Haywards funeral. As soon as the dust settled they shipped him out to Stockport. As CM matured he realised the error of his ways & peaked with Saints. Maybe JP will have a few more years of sulking & basically being immature & turn out to be a great player for another club in 3 or 4 years??

There is no doubt he has talent, but I worry about his application or motivation to play for Saints???

[alpine_saint]

I do not think Lowe ruined us he may well have contributed to our relegation but he got us a stadium a FA CUP FINAL and other things with very little money.

 

On the other hand Cortese got us a JPT Trophy and an under performing team despite the backing of a billionaire and has upset the press old players and some season ticket holders so some fans may not think he is with out criticsism

 

Wow, I thought Lowe Luvvies had died out..

 

I found Puncheon's attitude to MLs remembrance service a disgrace, but could have lived with it if he had delivered on the pitch.

 

I am totally ambivalent about his departure.

 

I am worried that the squad seems to have some mewling prima-donnas within its ranks still.

[Window Cleaner]

Exactly.

 

And whilst not wishing to be a pedant, if someone has the writing standard of a ten year old it is hard to take them seriously.

 

although some might make it look that way for reasons of their own. It's easy for a relatively intelligent,educated person to look dumb by writing in an incult manner, it's a bit more difficult the other way round.

[SaintRichmond]

As an aside, why do Millwall need an "emergency" loan in the first place? Surely they've got a squad big enough to fill the midfield week in, week out?

 

Emergency loans for goalkeepers I can understand. But a midfielder?

 

IMHO, Puncheon has made it pretty obvious for quite a while that he did NOT want to play for Saints, especially now that we are still in Division Three

 

By moving to Millwall, he has gone to a (currently) better Club, in a higher Division

 

For all those "Saints are a much better Club"" Brigade ... NO, we are not

 

We are currently in Division Three, with no God Given Right to be any higher

 

Promotion has to be earned, and I fear that with (still) so much unrest at St Mary's, we have a long long way to go before you can view Saints as Promotion candidates

[Window Cleaner]

IMHO, Puncheon has made it pretty obvious for quite a while that he did NOT want to play for Saints, especially now that we are still in Division Three

 

By moving to Millwall, he has gone to a (currently) better Club, in a higher Division

 

For all those "Saints are a much better Club"" Brigade ... NO, we are not

 

We are currently in Division Three, with no God Given Right to be any higher

 

Promotion has to be earned, and I fear that with (still) so much unrest at St Mary's, we have a long long way to go before you can view Saints as Promotion candidates

 

I said towards the end of last season that some players wouldn't fancy another season in Div 3 any too much, 4 of them to be

precise, all 4 of them have been underperforming and now one has left, for the time being anyway.The other 3 will surely follow.

The next 2 games will be decisive for our season because we'll need another 60 points or so from our remaining 30 games,win both and we're on our way,lose both and it's virtually all over, win one,lose one...well we'll see.

[John B]

Wow, I thought Lowe Luvvies had died out..

 

I found Puncheon's attitude to MLs remembrance service a disgrace, but could have lived with it if he had delivered on the pitch.

 

I am totally ambivalent about his departure.

 

I am worried that the squad seems to have some mewling prima-donnas within its ranks still.

 

Or perhaps they are not happy with the atmosphere at Southampton where promotion is required at all costs and wish to earn their living elsewhere

[Matthew Le God]

As an aside, why do Millwall need an "emergency" loan in the first place? Surely they've got a squad big enough to fill the midfield week in, week out?

 

Emergency loans for goalkeepers I can understand. But a midfielder?

 

Use are misunderstanding what an "emergency loan" is...

 

An "emergency loan" is ANY loan between early September and 3rd Thursday in November when the loan window shuts and again from early February until 3rd Thursday in March.

 

Richard Chaplow, Nicholas Bignall, Anthony Pulis, Jack Saville, Paul Wotton have all been emergency loans in/out for Saints so far this season.

[SaintRichmond]

I said towards the end of last season that some players wouldn't fancy another season in Div 3 any too much, 4 of them to be

precise, all 4 of them have been underperforming and now one has left, for the time being anyway.The other 3 will surely follow.

The next 2 games will be decisive for our season because we'll need another 60 points or so from our remaining 30 games,win both and we're on our way,lose both and it's virtually all over, win one,lose one...well we'll see.

 

Very very true

 

Some people on here seem to think that because they play for Saints, they love playing in the Third Tier of UK Football

 

Well people, breaking news ... THEY DON'T, and are making it painfully obvious

 

One in particular, ie Lambert, thinks he is still CCC Class

 

Think again Ricky, because you are nowhere near it any more

 

Remedy ?? As with any Club, get rid of the Wasters, you cannot progress with Drains on the Rations

[Saint_clark]

Wow, I thought Lowe Luvvies had died out..

 

I found Puncheon's attitude to MLs remembrance service a disgrace, but could have lived with it if he had delivered on the pitch.

 

I am totally ambivalent about his departure.

 

I am worried that the squad seems to have some mewling prima-donnas within its ranks still.

 

People are STILL saying that Puncheon was wearing disrespectful clothes, but;

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70xt5Q_pS4s

 

Look 5 seconds in. Black trousers, black shirt. Not white shirt and jeans as people keep saying.

[Window Cleaner]

People are STILL saying that Puncheon was wearing disrespectful clothes, but;

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70xt5Q_pS4s

 

Look 5 seconds in. Black trousers, black shirt. Not white shirt and jeans as people keep saying.

 

Some people say whatever suits them. I'll be in a minority of 1 as usual but I can't see what difference it makes, how you can judge a man's character by what he wears to a memorial service, not a funeral just a local service organised for local people.Not to say anything about the fans outside!!! And the first player off the bus had his tie badly knotted, must be a real knob.

Edited 18 November, 2010 by Window Cleaner

[Jez]

I said towards the end of last season that some players wouldn't fancy another season in Div 3 any too much, 4 of them to be

precise, all 4 of them have been underperforming and now one has left, for the time being anyway.The other 3 will surely follow.

 

Which other three Saints players are you saying are underperforming?

I would presume you would have said, Lallana, Lambert and Fonte, as they are our three other 'best' players (imo) but Lambert aside, I would not say they are all underperforming? Or do you have other players in mind?

Agree though that those would all be disappointed to still be in League One, but they can rectify that easy enough by winning us promotion!

[jimmysaint7]

People are STILL saying that Puncheon was wearing disrespectful clothes, but;

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70xt5Q_pS4s

 

Look 5 seconds in. Black trousers, black shirt. Not white shirt and jeans as people keep saying.

I'm not so sure that is puncheon

[Window Cleaner]

Which other three Saints players are you saying are underperforming?

I would presume you would have said, Lallana, Lambert and Fonte, as they are our three other 'best' players (imo) but Lambert aside, I would not say they are all underperforming? Or do you have other players in mind?

Agree though that those would all be disappointed to still be in League One, but they can rectify that easy enough by winning us promotion!

 

Lambert, Schneiderlin and Fonte are all underperforming by last season's standards.They were all here last season to gain promotion, it is common knowledge (well LB told us so anyway) that Schneiderlin wanted to leave last May.Probably not of his own doing but the FFF will have been getting on at him about it again.They see him as a future international and are probably not happy with the standard of play in our league or maybe even the day to day coaching that he gets.

[Window Cleaner]

I'm not so sure that is puncheon

 

Looks like him to me.

[Chez]

Hands up - I am not JP's biggest fan. But this funeral story reminds me of a certain Mr Marsden who performed brilliantly for Saints. I play 5 a-side with a load of Wolves fans who told about how he was very direspectful at Jack Haywards funeral. As soon as the dust settled they shipped him out to Stockport.

 

The fact Jack Hayward is still alive, and Chris joined Notts County not Stockport, is just the start of the errors in this `story'. There were much more serious rumours as to why he was shipped out of Wolves.

Edited 18 November, 2010 by Chez

[Chez]

People are STILL saying that Puncheon was wearing disrespectful clothes, but;

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70xt5Q_pS4s

 

Look 5 seconds in. Black trousers, black shirt. Not white shirt and jeans as people keep saying.

 

funny that he is chastised for what he is supposed to have worn, yet pretty much all of the fans that have turned up are in teeshirt and shorts.

[Chez]

IMHO, Puncheon has made it pretty obvious for quite a while that he did NOT want to play for Saints

in what way?

 

I love how fans are able to determine players feelings from their performances.

[Saint_clark]

funny that he is chastised for what he is supposed to have worn, yet pretty much all of the fans that have turned up are in teeshirt and shorts.

 

Indeed.

Saying "the boos spurred me on to do better" actually makes me think he's got a better attitude than most.

[Chez]

Indeed.

Saying "the boos spurred me on to do better" actually makes me think he's got a better attitude than most.

 

he certainly played well in the game he returned back into the side despite fans looking to jump all over him if he did anything wrong. Althought it perhaps was more along the lines of him thinking to himself that he'd rather pass it quicker so they don't moan at him adn that was exactly what we needed - less ball hogging. I was told that he acts like a billy big balls, but then again he's a professional footballer, many tend to act like that don't they?

[Window Cleaner]

funny that he is chastised for what he is supposed to have worn, yet pretty much all of the fans that have turned up are in teeshirt and shorts.

 

Or stupid football shirts over massive beer guts, if they wore proper clothes they wouldn't look so feckin fat.

[Badger]

People are STILL saying that Puncheon was wearing disrespectful clothes, but;

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70xt5Q_pS4s

 

Look 5 seconds in. Black trousers, black shirt. Not white shirt and jeans as people keep saying.

 

No tie and top botton undone by a mile.

[Andyb1]

he's gone.... Lets move on...

[Window Cleaner]

he's gone.... Lets move on...

 

 

 

only on loan though,may or may not be back

[corky morris]

The fact Jack Hayward is still alive, and Chris joined Notts County not Stockport, is just the start of the errors in this `story'. There were much more serious rumours as to why he was shipped out of Wolves.

 

OK the person who dies & the club he joined are not the most important thing..........It must have been a player, but for the life of me I cant remember who as I am not a Wolves luvey & dont have enough time to research all the bits & pieces. I stand corrected on who & where he went, but the point is still relevant - Mr point scorer!

[buctootim]

OK the person who dies & the club he joined are not the most important thing..........It must have been a player, but for the life of me I cant remember who as I am not a Wolves luvey & dont have enough time to research all the bits & pieces. I stand corrected on who & where he went, but the point is still relevant - Mr point scorer!

 

So it wasnt Jack Hayward's funeral, it wasnt Chris Marsden and it wasnt Stockport. But the point is still relevant. Thats clears that up.

[Sour Mash]

OK the person who dies & the club he joined are not the most important thing..........It must have been a player, but for the life of me I cant remember who as I am not a Wolves luvey & dont have enough time to research all the bits & pieces. I stand corrected on who & where he went, but the point is still relevant - Mr point scorer!

 

I wouldn't have ever mentioned it again if I was you, but fair play for trying to come back from that one!

[corky morris]

So it wasnt Jack Hayward's funeral, it wasnt Chris Marsden and it wasnt Stockport. But the point is still relevant. Thats clears that up.

 

No it was Chris Marsden & the Wolves Player who dies was one of their most respected............Jees......

[Window Cleaner]

Anyway to sum it all up,he got dropped, didn't like it and wanted to move on...standard football practice nowadays.

[Badger]

Adkins says Millwall approached saints, Adkins sat down with Punch and agreed for him to go out on loan. Apparently, Punch didn't ask for a move. He also speaks highly of Lee Holmes and it sounds he is ahead of Puncheon in the 'hierachy' of wingers. Oxo seems to be our starting winger.

 

Source: Adkins on Saints player.

[Weston Saint]

He has not signed the loan deal yet. Tomorrow if he wants to play for them on Saturday!

[Saint_clark]

Adkins says Millwall approached saints, Adkins sat down with Punch and agreed for him to go out on loan. Apparently, Punch didn't ask for a move. He also speaks highly of Lee Holmes and it sounds he is ahead of Puncheon in the 'hierachy' of wingers. Oxo seems to be our starting winger.

 

Source: Adkins on Saints player.

 

Mental if Holmes is ahead of Puncheon. Simply mental. Hope he proves me wrong.

[Badger]

Mental if Holmes is ahead of Puncheon. Simply mental. Hope he proves me wrong.

 

Adkins didn't actually say that, but it is what it sounds like an the impression I got.

[Andy_Porter]

Adkins says Millwall approached saints, Adkins sat down with Punch and agreed for him to go out on loan. Apparently, Punch didn't ask for a move. He also speaks highly of Lee Holmes and it sounds he is ahead of Puncheon in the 'hierachy' of wingers. Oxo seems to be our starting winger.

 

Source: Adkins on Saints player.

 

 

We're so screwed, quite looking forward to a third year in league one anyway.

 

Comparing Holmes and Puncheon is silly anyway, there's no way Holmes could play from the right, he's all about his crossing so he has to play on the left which would mean Lallana getting played on the right, we would lose a massive goal threat.

 

Still can't see any logic in this loan unless it's to free up fund for another player in? Maybe money is a lot tighter than some like to think, maybe we're not the 'man city' of league one?

[Matthew Le God]

 

We're so screwed, quite looking forward to a third year in league one anyway.

 

Comparing Holmes and Puncheon is silly anyway, there's no way Holmes could play from the right, he's all about his crossing so he has to play on the left which would mean Lallana getting played on the right, we would lose a massive goal threat.

 

Saints wingers swap sides throughout games. Lallana/Puncheon/Chamberlain never stay on the same side for 90 minutes in any game.

[Andy_Porter]

Saints wingers swap sides throughout games. Lallana/Puncheon/Chamberlain never stay on the same side for 90 minutes in any game.

 

What a suprise It's MLG pointing out the obvious.

 

Lallana plays the majority of the game from the left, and Puncheon/Chambleron from the right, I go the vast majority of games and don't need someone pointing out how we play. Thank you.

[Matthew Le God]

What a suprise It's MLG pointing out the obvious.

 

Lallana plays the majority of the game from the left, and Puncheon/Chambleron from the right, I go the vast majority of games and don't need someone pointing out how we play. Thank you.

 

Well listening to Adkins numerous interviews over the last few weeks where he makes huge hints they will be spending in January is also "obvious" isn't it? But you have overlooked them and also Cortese "apparently" telling those in the Itchen concourse after one game that they will be spending.

[Andy_Porter]

He can drop as many hints as he likes, I'm just worried we won't have the squad depth untill that happens. Losing Puncheon is a massive blow.

[buctootim]

Having just watched the interview I dont think he did imply Pucheon was out to make way for Holmes. Sounded to me like a loan is coming in.

[derry]

Having just watched the interview I dont think he did imply Pucheon was out to make way for Holmes. Sounded to me like a loan is coming in.

 

I would be gobsmacked if we didn't bring in at least one, but I'd be surprised if we didn't bring in more.