saint lard Posted 11 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Come on everyone, let us break the spell and campaign for Glenn Hoddle. He could do the job. Alan Pardew could have done the job. Very regretable that he was shown the door,whatever his misdemeanor . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Newcastle seem to be 1 up, still it's only Liverpool, if Hodgson can get a top job why not AP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Alan Pardew could have done the job. Very regretable that he was shown the door,whatever his misdemeanor . Many people could have done the job,what about the bloke from Brentford or that chap at Swindon or Poyet. Trouble is we didn't appoint them. I really do tax NC with this, he could have done a bit of spade work and then sacked AP when we had a viable alternative because Wilkins for 3 or 4 games just wasn't an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Alan Pardew could have done the job. Very regretable that he was shown the door,whatever his misdemeanor . Like he did last season.... We underachieved last season and with the funds he had available we should have been top six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Like he did last season.... We underachieved last season and with the funds he had available we should have been top six. The thing is though when he left us we were in 7th place, i not looked at the table today but we started the day in 8th so obviously we must still be around there. This time last year we actually had 4 more points then we have now. So if we underachived last season what are we doing now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulGilchrist_76 Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Didn't realise we have never lost at St Marys under Adkins Drew first game Won last 6. Can't wait to he starts getting players playing for him! Neither can I! When will that be exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Jesus H Christ, can we at least give the bloke a transfer window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Until NA has his own team,he cannot fairly be judged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Until NA has his own team,he cannot fairly be judged. This is 100% unequivocally correct - simple as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulGilchrist_76 Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Until NA has his own team,he cannot fairly be judged. Agreed - send him back to S****horpe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 That was shambolic today - I think even Adkins would be critical of himself today. It looked like none of the players had ever met each other before 3pm. NA must shoulder some blame for one of the worst performances at SMS for quite a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 11 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 11 December, 2010 he bloody well can be judged,his squad or not. he should be getting more out of this squad and that is a fact. where the hell is the improvement. many seem to conveniently forget that we had minus ten points last season.pardew did a good job whilst here and i would have been a damn site more optimistic if he had remained.appointimg adkins will prove to be a balls up.hope he proves me wrong obviously,but he is medioce at best and he has turned this side into a very average team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 I'm still stunned that we did nothing to bring in a couple of loans before the window closed. We need different options - pace mainly up front and out wide. Our squad is paper thin quality-wise and the decision to let Puncheon out without replacement was daft. As if Lee Holmes was going to be able to stay injury free from November to 1st Jan. We might have great plans for the future but we needed a few f**king ideas for now first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Jesus H Christ, can we at least give the bloke a transfer window? He'll get that, but if he buys six new players people like you will be bleating on about "Jesus H Christ can we give the players six months to gel before we think about judging etc etc" Until NA has his own team,he cannot fairly be judged. Yes he can. Judgement started on day one. Adkins got the job to deliver promotion, without fail, this season. Not to settle in. Not to get his feet under the table. And no, not to "have his own team" either. Nigel Adkins got the job to deliver promotion this season - that remit means he has to do it with the players he has inherited. He'll get to "build his team" in the Championship. So judgement started months ago. And it's so far, pretty good but we need to be contenders, not pretenders, in the second half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Saints both as as a team and many of the individuals in it have underperformed for at least five years regardless of manager, chairman or resources. I dont know why that it is. I do know that whatever malignancy has infected the club isnt down to NA and its ridiculous to expect him to sort the problems in a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Saints both as as a team and many of the individuals in it have underperformed for at least five years regardless of manager, chairman or resources. I dont know why that it is. I do know that whatever malignancy has infected the club isnt down to NA and its ridiculous to expect him to sort the problems in a few months. Didn't we do rather bloody well last season? The idea that Nigel Adkins walked into some train wreck of malignancy is stretching the bounds of credulity. He inherited the best squad in the division who just needed a bit of direction and inspiration. Not easy, but not that hard for a manager from the level above. As managerial inheritences go - from players, to facilities to exec support - I'd say Adkins had a far stronger hand than almost any other managerial appointment at any other club in the country this year. He has far less to "sort out" than most new managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Saints both as as a team and many of the individuals in it have underperformed for at least five years regardless of manager, chairman or resources. I dont know why that it is. I do know that whatever malignancy has infected the club isnt down to NA and its ridiculous to expect him to sort the problems in a few months. The rot started in 2004, we appointed a League 1 manager over an England and premier manager. We are getting what we deserved. A small minority of fans are directly to blame for this, but they won't admit and won't own up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Saints both as as a team and many of the individuals in it have underperformed for at least five years regardless of manager, chairman or resources. I dont know why that it is. I do know that whatever malignancy has infected the club isnt down to NA and its ridiculous to expect him to sort the problems in a few months. We didn't under perform last season and without starting the season with one hand tide behind out back we would have made the play offs and probably gained promotion. If that manager was still here and allowed to build on last season we would probably be looking at promotion this season. As it is it looks like a struggle this season. What did Keegan say about Ashely? Perhaps the same comment could be levelled at Cortese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Saints both as as a team and many of the individuals in it have underperformed for at least five years regardless of manager, chairman or resources. I dont know why that it is. I do know that whatever malignancy has infected the club isnt down to NA and its ridiculous to expect him to sort the problems in a few months. Depends on your point of view. Our last season in the championship we achieved pretty much what I expected given the circumstances. I don't think we under achieved last season at all, given our starting point in August . This season we were in the strongest postion of any team in league one to be this far into the season and not even in the play offs is a massive under achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Didn't we do rather bloody well last season? The idea that Nigel Adkins walked into some train wreck of malignancy is stretching the bounds of credulity. He inherited the best squad in the division who just needed a bit of direction and inspiration. Not easy, but not that hard for a manager from the level above. As managerial inheritences go - from players, to facilities to exec support - I'd say Adkins had a far stronger hand than almost any other managerial appointment at any other club in the country this year. He has far less to "sort out" than most new managers. Pardew inherited a decent core of players for league 1, had more money to spend than anyone else and risding a tide of optimism and good will - came fifth not counting points deductions. The exceptional performance of RL flattered what was often a pretty average /poor team. Not bad - but doing "bloody well" is just hyperbole. Now Lambert isnt scoring the deficiences of the team are clear. Things are little better under NA, there is some progress. Anybody who would condemn him because pardew had the figleaf of Lambert scoring and NA doesn't is pretty myopic imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Why the hell haven't you mentioned this before?! One thing for sure we have not learnt our lesson. We need a big name manager. Sturrock was out of his depth and since then we have been making the same mistake over and over again. Strachan or Hoddle would have been a far better appointment than Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Alan Pardew could have done the job. Very regretable that he was shown the door,whatever his misdemeanor . Like he did last season.... We underachieved last season and with the funds he had available we should have been top six. Pardew finished last season with 83 points. If you add 3 points on for the Gillingham game at the end of the season where we played a weak team, that would have given us 86 points and a better goal difference than Leeds = auto promotion. Unfortunately we had -10 points so finished 7th instead. He also won the JPT and had a decent run in the FA Cup. I hardly call that underachieving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 Pardew inherited a decent core of players for league 1, had more money to spend than anyone else and risding a tide of optimism and good will - came fifth not counting points deductions. The exceptional performance of RL flattered what was often a pretty average /poor team. Not bad - but doing "bloody well" is just hyperbole. Now Lambert isnt scoring the deficiences of the team are clear. Things are little better under NA, there is some progress. Anybody who would condemn him because pardew had the figleaf of Lambert scoring and NA doesn't is pretty myopic imo. Really? Saga (no longer playing for a contract), Matt Patterson, Wotton, Lloyd James, of what pardew inherited Lallana, Morgan, bart and Kelvin where about the only ones worth much. Maybe Lambert doing so well last years was becuase Pardew could get something out of him Nigel can't? Lamberts form hasn't been a secret but nothing seems to have been done to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 11 December, 2010 Share Posted 11 December, 2010 The thing is though when he left us we were in 7th place, i not looked at the table today but we started the day in 8th so obviously we must still be around there. This time last year we actually had 4 more points then we have now. So if we underachived last season what are we doing now? No we didnt. Last season after 19 games we had 29 points. 1 more than we do now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Anyway it's still pardews players failing us. They never got into the playoffs and can barely get there this year which is pathetic. Seems to be a mental thing as it was last year. No consistency and no bottle, and on occasion not enough effort. Pardews players who last season ended up as the inform side at the end of the season with second higest goal difference behind the league champions? The same team that lost eleven games all of last season (we've lost nine already this season)? The same team that actually had a point more than this time last season in argubly in a much strong league than this season.? They didn't get to the play offs becuase they had ten points less than everyone else. Mentally last year they came from behind in several games and never showed a lack of bottle (although immagination to unlock teams was lacking at times). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 No we didnt. Last season after 19 games we had 29 points. 1 more than we do now yes we did http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/teams/Southampton.html We had 1 game called off but even if we win that game we still would of been 1 point behind last season Our record last year was 20 games, 8 wins, 8 draws and 4 losses. Scoring 35 goals in the process = 32 points This season played 19, won 8, 4 draws, 7 losses. Scoring 25 goals in the process = 28 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 One thing for sure we have not learnt our lesson. We need a big name manager. Sturrock was out of his depth and since then we have been making the same mistake over and over again. Strachan or Hoddle would have been a far better appointment than Adkins. But we have learned our lesson! We've appointed a manager who won't **** off to South Africa in order to negotiate a move to another club (without having the character to even say goodbye and thanks to the players that had helped him rehabilitate his career) before he committed managerial hara-kiri at his spiritual home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Amazing to see the manager we unfairly sacked starting off with a win against Liverpool while his replacement is getting beaten at home by Brentford. I questioned the decision to sack Pardew at the time, let's hope Adkins does come good. He should be doing better with this squad for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Yes disappointed to see Pardew kick off with a win - not cos to wish him ill but cos i had £50 on the scousers. Was hoping they would sulk more. And first abject performance at home for a while so cant level it all at Adkins. We dont want many repeats tho. Puncheon whilst being **** at least gave us an option from the bench which we didnt have today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Pardew inherited a decent core of players for league 1, had more money to spend than anyone else and risding a tide of optimism and good will - came fifth not counting points deductions. The exceptional performance of RL flattered what was often a pretty average /poor team. Not bad - but doing "bloody well" is just hyperbole. Now Lambert isnt scoring the deficiences of the team are clear. Things are little better under NA, there is some progress. Anybody who would condemn him because pardew had the figleaf of Lambert scoring and NA doesn't is pretty myopic imo. maybe, but he inherited a basket-case of a club, leaderless, rudderless and an aimless shambles. Plus the remnants of a bsaket case of leadership at the non-football level, plus a bonus strat of -10 points! How many who finished the 2008-9 season are with us now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Until NA has his own team,he cannot fairly be judged. Tbf he is in a better position in the league than every other manager,he has the best,most expensive squad to work with filled with quality players...we shouldn't be waiting for him to fill it with his chosen players,the players we have should easily be maintaining a top two position but they are not. He is in an enviable position that every manager in this league could only dream about yet he delivers a performance like yesterdays. Perhaps this squad is wasted on him.....who knows?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 If you look at NA's record with us it shows that the results to date during his tenure (without counting MK Dons) would not be good enough to obtain automatic promotion. P13 W7 L3 D3 24 points extrapolated over the whole season that would be 84/85 points which probably won't get us automatic. In fact we now need another 60 points from 27 games including a majority away.I don't think we'll do that because nothing than NA has shown us so far leads me to believe that we can beat the better sides in the league like Charlton and Oldham. Oh without a doubt we'll go to Walsall and win 4-0 and euphoria will reign here again but we aren't doing it when it counts on a constant basis no matter what team we put out and that my friends is down solely to the manager and the coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 There are those, including me, who felt Pardew was an OK Manager but not good enough to take the business plan far enough. He is an old fashioned Manager who did not believe in width. There are those who felt he was good enough and were disappointed with his sacking. They felt he was the Manager for us long term. The pro Pardew will be against Adkins and his start. The anti Pardew will give Adkins a bit more time. There is better width but we still lack pace and a crab like central midfield. That is something Adkins needs to address in the window. I was pleased with Adkins appointment. I am reserving judgement if it was the right one. I know Lallana challenged Cortese over Pardew's sacking (before Adkins was appointed) I also know Lallana is happy with Adkins, the spirit in "the changing room" is great and that is not just down to Adkins and his team but Kelvin Davis as club captain as well. He has massive respect from the players. Saturdays result was a big blow but we are still in the game, we CAN get promotion this season but the team needs to up its performance level. Adkins will be judged on that in the next few games I m sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Pardew inherited a decent core of players for league 1, had more money to spend than anyone else and risding a tide of optimism and good will - came fifth not counting points deductions. The exceptional performance of RL flattered what was often a pretty average /poor team. Not bad - but doing "bloody well" is just hyperbole. Now Lambert isnt scoring the deficiences of the team are clear. Things are little better under NA, there is some progress. Anybody who would condemn him because pardew had the figleaf of Lambert scoring and NA doesn't is pretty myopic imo. Nail & Head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 I still don't get why some people were not happy with Pardew. His team scored an awful lot of goals and he surely must take credit for that, width or no width. He certainly got the best out of Lambert. His team also won football matches. Whether Adkins will be better or not only time will tell, but we haven't set Div 1 alight this season and if we don't bring in some quality in January it is hard to see how we can push on with what we have. Pardew was expected to take us up last year and was under no illusion that it was this year or bust. Somehow Adkins is escaping that pressure so far this year but why? Surely the expectation should be the same? HOwever, whereas Pardew had money to use, it doesn't seem as though the same financial support is there for Adkins (so far at least). If Cortese is serious about his ambitions he will have to spend more money. He tells us he is the boss. Fine, then do what you need to do otherwise we will be spending another year in League 1 and people like Lallana won't hang around much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 (edited) Pardew inherited a decent core of players for league 1, had more money to spend than anyone else and risding a tide of optimism and good will - came fifth not counting points deductions. The exceptional performance of RL flattered what was often a pretty average /poor team. Not bad - but doing "bloody well" is just hyperbole. Now Lambert isnt scoring the deficiences of the team are clear. Things are little better under NA, there is some progress. Anybody who would condemn him because pardew had the figleaf of Lambert scoring and NA doesn't is pretty myopic imo. Making out we "underperformed" last season is pretty myopic in my opinion. The only person partaking in hyperbole is you - describing last years team as part of some long term "malignancy" is fairyland stuff. And if, according to you Pardew inherited a "decent core" of players, then Adkins had definitely inherited an even better core of players. You can witter on about Lambert, but I'd say Adkins is pretty lucky that the club went out and bought another of the top five goalscorers in L1 last season to help. And has a golden oldie and a young star to support too. Oh, and a box to box goalscoring midfielder from the league above too. And a well regarded striker/forward from a Serie A team too. Doesn't look too "malignant" to me. Making out Adkins has some gigantic rebuilding job to do it just ill-informed hype on your part. Edited 12 December, 2010 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Making out we "underperformed" last season is pretty myopic in my opinion. The only person partaking in hyperbole is you - describing last years team as part of some long term "malignancy" is fairyland stuff. And if, according to you Pardew inherited a "decent core" of players, then Adkins had definitely inherited an even better core of players. You can witter on about Lambert, but I'd say Adkins is pretty lucky that the club went out and bought another of the top five goalscorers in L1 last season to help. And has a golden oldie and a young star to support too. Oh, and a box to box goalscoring midfielder from the league above too. And a well regarded striker/forward from a Serie A team too. Doesn't look too "malignant" to me. Making out Adkins has some gigantic rebuilding job to do it just ill-informed hype on your part. Wow. You really are the most egotistical ****** on the board. If you had a fraction of the insight you like to think you have, you would realise that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 There are those, including me, who felt Pardew was an OK Manager but not good enough to take the business plan far enough. He is an old fashioned Manager who did not believe in width. There are those who felt he was good enough and were disappointed with his sacking. They felt he was the Manager for us long term. The pro Pardew will be against Adkins and his start. The anti Pardew will give Adkins a bit more time. There is better width but we still lack pace and a crab like central midfield. That is something Adkins needs to address in the window. I was pleased with Adkins appointment. I am reserving judgement if it was the right one. I know Lallana challenged Cortese over Pardew's sacking (before Adkins was appointed) I also know Lallana is happy with Adkins, the spirit in "the changing room" is great and that is not just down to Adkins and his team but Kelvin Davis as club captain as well. He has massive respect from the players. Saturdays result was a big blow but we are still in the game, we CAN get promotion this season but the team needs to up its performance level. Adkins will be judged on that in the next few games I m sure This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 I only post here on rare occassions but have to say I totally agree with CB FRY, Adkins is underperforming and more importantly the players are underperforming. Adkins does not seem to have either the motivational skills or the dressing room backing that Pardew had. I thought all things considered Pardew did a pretty good job last year and I totally disagreed with his sacking. I actually think that had Pardew still been here we would probably be in the top two at the moment. There is no doubt that something is missing from the set up at the moment, the results and players performances are to erratic. NA still has time to sort it but many more days like yesterday and it will be another year lost from the Cortese 5 year Master plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 I only post here on rare occassions but have to say I totally agree with CB FRY, Adkins is underperforming and more importantly the players are underperforming. Adkins does not seem to have either the motivational skills or the dressing room backing that Pardew had. I thought all things considered Pardew did a pretty good job last year and I totally disagreed with his sacking. I actually think that had Pardew still been here we would probably be in the top two at the moment. There is no doubt that something is missing from the set up at the moment, the results and players performances are to erratic. NA still has time to sort it but many more days like yesterday and it will be another year lost from the Cortese 5 year Master plan. With just 27 games left including Charlton at home and away, Brighton away, Plymouth away and Oldham twice as well what you have to realise is that we can only afford to lose another 3 matches this season because we need at least 19 more wins. To Play 27, W19,L3 D5 Is probably about the minimum requirement. Even being generous (with reason) and leaving MK Dons out NA's record to date just doesn't suggest that will happen as we've about 15 away games to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Wow. You really are the most egotistical ****** on the board. If you had a fraction of the insight you like to think you have, you would realise that. Not really. You tend to be pitifully wrong time and time again, and I'm delighted to put you right. "Pardew inherited a decent core of players for league 1" you say and it is total piffle, especially when the inference is that Adkins inherited a "malignancy" in contrast. Your contributions are utter, utter garbage so spare me the judgement on my insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 We could still win the league easily, the important thing is to spend some cash in January. Adkins has had to work with another manager's team judge him after he's had a chance to mould his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Not really. You tend to be pitifully wrong time and time again, and I'm delighted to put you right. "Pardew inherited a decent core of players for league 1" you say and it is total piffle, especially when the inference is that Adkins inherited a "malignancy" in contrast. Your contributions are utter, utter garbage so spare me the judgement on my insight. The joy of your posts is that no-one needs to ridicule them. They come ready equipped with a loudhailer so everyone can hear for themselves how past it and occluded you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 We could still win the league easily, the important thing is to spend some cash in January. Adkins has had to work with another manager's team judge him after he's had a chance to mould his own. He knew that was the case when he took the job I'm sure he didn't go into the interview with NC and say "the teams gash I'll have to rebuild it in Jan and spend a load of money ok nikki?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Not really. You tend to be pitifully wrong time and time again, and I'm delighted to put you right. "Pardew inherited a decent core of players for league 1" you say and it is total piffle, especially when the inference is that Adkins inherited a "malignancy" in contrast. Your contributions are utter, utter garbage so spare me the judgement on my insight. I think you have just proved his point to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 The joy of your posts is that no-one needs to ridicule them. They come ready equipped with a loudhailer so everyone can hear for themselves how past it and occluded you are. Whatever you say, sweetheart. At least I don't come out with horseplop like this garbage: Saints both as as a team and many of the individuals in it have underperformed for at least five years regardless of manager, chairman or resources. I dont know why that it is. I do know that whatever malignancy has infected the club, its ridiculous to expect to sort the problems in a few months. ...as you were saying on Wembley Way last season. If you think we were suffering "malignancy" last season then your expectations as a football supporter are shot to f u ck and you have the perspective of an autistic eight year old. Rocketing up the table and winning a trophy is not "malignancy", darling. Remember, it's not just me disagreeing with your nonsense on this thread. Because you are pitifully wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Whatever you say, sweetheart. At least I don't come out with horseplop like this garbage: ...as you were saying on Wembley way last season. If you think we were suffering "malignancy" last season then your expectations as a football supporter are shot to f u ck and you have the perspective of an autistic eight year old. Rocketing up the table and winning a trophy is not "malignancy", darling. Of course gramps. Perhaps with your larger than average intellect you could tell us why a dozen or so of the players who left have left under a cloud in the past few years are now playing succesfully in higher leagues with other clubs. Mid table league 1 is fitting for a club with 20,000 plus attendances and the highest wages and transfer budget. Oh and you're right, its all Adkins fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Making out we "underperformed" last season is pretty myopic in my opinion. The only person partaking in hyperbole is you - describing last years team as part of some long term "malignancy" is fairyland stuff. And if, according to you Pardew inherited a "decent core" of players, then Adkins had definitely inherited an even better core of players. You can witter on about Lambert, but I'd say Adkins is pretty lucky that the club went out and bought another of the top five goalscorers in L1 last season to help. And has a golden oldie and a young star to support too. Oh, and a box to box goalscoring midfielder from the league above too. And a well regarded striker/forward from a Serie A team too. Doesn't look too "malignant" to me. Making out Adkins has some gigantic rebuilding job to do it just ill-informed hype on your part. Well said as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Of course gramps. Perhaps with your larger than average intellect you could tell us why a dozen or so of the players who left have left under a cloud in the past few years are now playing succesfully in higher leagues with other clubs. Mid table league 1 is fitting for a club with 20,000 plus attendances and the highest wages and transfer budget. Oh and you're right, its all Adkins fault. What has that got to do with your original point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 What has that got to do with your original point? Just leave them to their argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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