Carlisle 3 - 2 Saints - post match reaction.

[harvey]

Let me see, the manager has a squad of 14-16 potential 'starters' and three 'vital' games in 10 days.

We are on a good run but not playing particularly well; tricky away game to a top-6 side.

Manager changes a couple of players (Jaidi/AOC) and the formation to 4-5-1 (following poor performance at Notts and a formation the same players did well with on a number of times last year), and enables him to include fans' favourite MS (the 'best midfielder in Lge 1').

Saints have 54% of the game and create more chances and have more shots on target than the home team.

Has the manager done very much wrong up to this point?

Saints concede three carp goals, score two and coulda/shoulda had more (Chaplow 1 on 1) ..... the 'players' or the 'manager' ... ?

I wouldn't be averse to giving Bart the next 6 games in goal ... I love KD to bits but Bart did v well in his mini-spell last year.

Harding: his head hasn't been right since the completely pointless signing and subsequent non-playing of Dickson ... give Dickson next 6 games at LB.

Don't mess with the CH pairing ... Fonte and Seaborne every game they are available.

There are no obvious answers up front (hence RL playing ever game), people rave about LB (I like him) but he doesn't score lots of goals.

Is Gully any good? I haven't seen him, 50% of people on here rate him as the best thing in a Saints shirt in the last 5 years, 50% would be happy if he never played again.

Possiility of Holmes (or Puncheon) on the left and Lallana, our most consistent finisher, in the 'number 10' position?

Anyway, onwards and upwards: I haven't yet wet my bed and I'm not calling for a new manager tonight. Six points from Carlisle a, P'boro h, Brighton h, will be a good return!

COYRS!

 

All very reasonable, but after 35 minutes maximum it was obvious that Carlisle had us sussed......NA was caught out today big time.

[St Chalet]

I didn't see the match but I am sure we have lost matches like this before, and will lose matches like this in the future.

 

Ultimately, we made a big tactical change and it failed. With some better performances from individuals we might have still won through.

 

I have no problems with Nigel Adkins trying things and making mistakes, the thing I will be unable to forgive is if he doesn't learn from them and I expect to see changes for the P'boro bage.

 

30 games to go and we will be there or thereabouts at the end of the season.

Edited 13 November, 2010 by St Chalet

[Saint Billy]

I suppose I could cope with an away loss now and then if we were firing on all cylinders in the others. I keep waiting for saints to hit real form but I'm not convinced it is coming!

[Saint_Jonny]

I had a really shocking day. Car broke down twice, alternator packed up on the way there (RAC replaced it), front right blow out on the way back. Saints lost and the day ended up costing me over £200.

 

I'm supposed to be a ****ing student.

 

**** off Saints.

[Charlie Wayman]

For sure Adders ain't Moses.

 

That's Huddersfield and Carlisle accounted for then. We're rather good against top 6 sides wouldn't you say?

 

What happens then if we don't make the play-offs does adders get another year or ill it be manager No 14's turn?

[Charlie Wayman]

I had a really shocking day. Car broke down twice, alternator packed up on the way there (RAC replaced it), front right blow out on the way back. Saints lost and the day ended up costing me over £200.

 

I'm supposed to be a ****ing student.

 

**** off Saints.

 

Stop wasting your money on Saints and buy a new car.. no brainer! Are you sure you're bright enough to be a student ;-)

[harvey]

I didn't see the match but I am sure we have lost matches like this before, and will lose matches like this in the future.

 

Ultimately, we made a big tactical change and it failed. With some better performances from individuals we might have still won through.

 

I have no problems with Nigel Adkins trying things and making mistakes, the thing I will be unable to forgive is if he doesn't learn from them and I expect to see changes for the P'boro bage.

 

30 games to go and we will be there or thereabouts at the end of the season.

 

Hello!!!!! is there anyone there?, "learn from mistakes".....it was crystal clear that he'd ****ed up after 20-30 minutes and I was only listening on the radio. If he couldn't see that whilst actually at the game and managing the team then we're ****ed.

[Saint_Jonny]

Stop wasting your money on Saints and buy a new car.. no brainer! Are you sure you're bright enough to be a student ;-)

 

lol £20 match ticket + petrol VS buying a new car! I know your only joking mate, but I wish I could have a new car! I'd do dirty horid things for something more reliable!

[Badger]

Just read Adkins comments after the game. His verbiage is so full of solecisms, repetitions, unattached participles, split infinitives and cliches that I find it hard to believe he has any real grasp of language. Chris Nicholl had the same problem but at least he had played the game at the highest level so could be forgiven. Think Adkins is probably out of his depth and should restrict his comments to a paragraph at the most.

 

Don't necessarily disagree with your critiscisms of the Adkins interview but he is a damn sight more fluent than Chris Nicholl who struggled to put any kind of coherent sentence together.

[CanadaSaint]

Just read Adkins comments after the game. His verbiage is so full of solecisms, repetitions, unattached participles, split infinitives and cliches that I find it hard to believe he has any real grasp of language. Chris Nicholl had the same problem but at least he had played the game at the highest level so could be forgiven. Think Adkins is probably out of his depth and should restrict his comments to a paragraph at the most.

 

For heaven's sake, he's a football manager, not an English professor. And his day to day conversations are with football players and coaches, not Rhodes scholars and fellow academics.

 

You must go nuts listening to all these managers and former players on television.

[saint_stevo]

Get Do Prado back in the team

[leftback]

Id heard when na was first linked with us that he struggled to make strong decisions at scunny,(think i posted as much) and the reason we played 451/433 today was that na flaked on the decision to drop either chaplow or morgan.

we must be braver in our quest for victories, i must confess to being a 442 advocate,and it seems we were more assertive and more of an attacking force when we changed formations.

aox is playing well, and.lalana is a shoe in.

So its Barney or connolly to partner lambert if we go back to 442 for the home games coming up.

I dont see barney and connolly as a pair ,plus, does dc's injury record suggest he can play an active role in the 30 games left?,....history suggests no.

And what about guly?

 

dont duck decisions nige, when bruno starts asking questions you better have the answers....more to the point the answers he wants to hear.

[David Strover]

Amazing - one bad result and performance and Nigel Adkins are instantly transformed into utter ****e again by some 'fans' on this forum. Next week if we win about 4-0 or something we'll be world beaters with the best manager in the universe at the helm - again.

 

How ****ing tedious this place is.

[washsaint]

No wonder this place is like the Mary Celeste these days.....what a bunch of moaners and muppets! One defeat and the sky has fallen in, let's forget about the previous 6/7 games and the fact we went from bottom 4 to top 6.

 

Honestly, what a bunch of tarts!

[Professor]

Liked Adkins notes on the OS. Very realistic and no excuses. One way that he differs from Pardew is his honest assessment when things go wrong. Gives you confidence that he will act on things that need doing.

 

If you ask what can be done about Lambert, droppping him and making him win his place back would be the best solution. With Barnard and Connolly there's no reason to think we'd do any worse, and more likely to do better. Couldn't understand selection of Jaidi over Seaborne. Side is much better balanced with Seaborne and he is so much more mobile across the back. As for LB, the substitution at Carlisle might indicate that Dickson could get a run in the side, and not before time.

[Liquidshokk]

No wonder this place is like the Mary Celeste these days.....what a bunch of moaners and muppets! One defeat and the sky has fallen in, let's forget about the previous 6/7 games and the fact we went from bottom 4 to top 6.

 

Honestly, what a bunch of tarts!

 

As others have mentioned we have struggled against a top team again and results of late have been against poor sides so the question of whether we have been flukey lately has arisen. We have a lot of good sides still to play so they may well go the same way... If we win the peterborough and Brighton games then people may be a bit more confident. We won't if we play as we did today though..

[Kingsbridge Saint]

Still not happening consistently enough for us to justify promotion favouritism. We had a **** start and simply cannot afford another shaky spell or the season will be half over, we'll be mid table and the top two slots will be over the hill and far away. Two testing home league games next - win them both and we'll be bang there. Win one draw one and we're still fluffing around.

[trousers]

No wonder this place is like the Mary Celeste these days.....what a bunch of moaners and muppets! One defeat and the sky has fallen in, let's forget about the previous 6/7 games and the fact we went from bottom 4 to top 6.

 

Honestly, what a bunch of tarts!

 

Yeah, get rid of the moaners and keep those moaning about the moaners.

[del boy]

I don't think NA is doing much wrong. He was a hero before the match with 6 wins from 7 then, as usual after one loss, its recrimination time and sack the manager.

 

I think his tactics and selections were fine - he's probably learning a lot now about which members of the team he can rely on to execute his plans.

Some are up to it, in terms of technical ability, intelligence and attitude - and some are not. His job is to replace the ineffective, and gel the rest into a unit, and I'm sure that will happen over time.

[saint lard]

I don't think NA is doing much wrong. He was a hero before the match with 6 wins from 7 then, as usual after one loss, its recrimination time and sack the manager.

 

I think his tactics and selections were fine - he's probably learning a lot now about which members of the team he can rely on to execute his plans.

Some are up to it, in terms of technical ability, intelligence and attitude - and some are not. His job is to replace the ineffective, and gel the rest into a unit, and I'm sure that will happen over time.

Not with me he isn't.

[georgeweahscousin]

I think as I suggested in the build up thread, that Carlisle are/were a tougher prospect than many fans would credit them for. Traditionally slim pickings for Saints so far north, and Carlisle have been doing well.

 

A lot of comments on Lambert being able to play up front on his own. He seemed to do ok at it in plenty of games last season.

 

Still only 4 points from second, and hopefully Brighton's result is sign of a blip. Keep the faith, we have the right manager and a talented squad, but this league is tough to get out of, we were never going to have it all our own way.

[saint lard]

I think as I suggested in the build up thread, that Carlisle are/were a tougher prospect than many fans would credit them for. Traditionally slim pickings for Saints so far north, and Carlisle have been doing well.

 

A lot of comments on Lambert being able to play up front on his own. He seemed to do ok at it in plenty of games last season.

 

Still only 4 points from second, and hopefully Brighton's result is sign of a blip. Keep the faith, we have the right manager and a talented squad, but this league is tough to get out of, we were never going to have it all our own way.

 

What makes you,like so many others,so sure he is?

We have a talented squad? how come we are underperforming week in week out?

How many time this season we have heard 'well we got the win but we are not playing well'

Adkins has been here long enough now to have made his mark,he is seriously underperforming,just like Lambert is on the pitch....this shows no sign changing either,another marker that Adkins is inept.

We are going nowhere under Adkins.

I sincerely hope i'm wrong.

[georgeweahscousin]

What makes you,like so many others,so sure he is?

We have a talented squad? how come we are underperforming week in week out?

How many time this season we have heard 'well we got the win but we are not playing well'

Adkins has been here long enough now to have made his mark,he is seriously underperforming,just like Lambert is on the pitch....this shows no sign changing either,another marker that Adkins is inept.

We are going nowhere under Adkins.

 

Winning while underperfoming = sign of a great team.

 

The fact is, we were shocking this season until he took over. He has turned us into a team that is back challenging for promotion, and he has done it playing better football than we were.

 

We aren't going to win every week. That is football. What has he done to upset you so much?

[Andy_Porter]

I'd like to see us start Lallana and and Dickson outwide with Guly and Barnard up top.

 

We're putting too much pressure on AOC.

[Window Cleaner]

 

We're putting too much pressure on AOC.

 

 

He's also playing too much football for a kid of his age.NA has got that one wrong, whether it's because someone is telling him to play AOC all the time I couldn't say but at barely 17 190 minutes of competitive football every week is too much.Just like a couple of our other better young players AOC needs to move on to a club where he will be nurtured and brought on for the future, not sent down the mine every tuesday and saturday.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Let me see, the manager has a squad of 14-16 potential 'starters' and three 'vital' games in 10 days.

We are on a good run but not playing particularly well; tricky away game to a top-6 side.

Manager changes a couple of players (Jaidi/AOC) and the formation to 4-5-1 (following poor performance at Notts and a formation the same players did well with on a number of times last year), and enables him to include fans' favourite MS (the 'best midfielder in Lge 1').

Saints have 54% of the game and create more chances and have more shots on target than the home team.

Has the manager done very much wrong up to this point?

Saints concede three carp goals, score two and coulda/shoulda had more (Chaplow 1 on 1) ..... the 'players' or the 'manager' ... ?

I wouldn't be averse to giving Bart the next 6 games in goal ... I love KD to bits but Bart did v well in his mini-spell last year.

Harding: his head hasn't been right since the completely pointless signing and subsequent non-playing of Dickson ... give Dickson next 6 games at LB.

Don't mess with the CH pairing ... Fonte and Seaborne every game they are available.

There are no obvious answers up front (hence RL playing ever game), people rave about LB (I like him) but he doesn't score lots of goals.

Is Gully any good? I haven't seen him, 50% of people on here rate him as the best thing in a Saints shirt in the last 5 years, 50% would be happy if he never played again.

Possiility of Holmes (or Puncheon) on the left and Lallana, our most consistent finisher, in the 'number 10' position?

Anyway, onwards and upwards: I haven't yet wet my bed and I'm not calling for a new manager tonight. Six points from Carlisle a, P'boro h, Brighton h, will be a good return!

COYRS!

 

Almost entirely agree but I'd like to see Martin in with a chance at CG as I rate him.

 

Just read Adkins comments after the game. His verbiage is so full of solecisms, repetitions, unattached participles, split infinitives and cliches that I find it hard to believe he has any real grasp of language. Chris Nicholl had the same problem but at least he had played the game at the highest level so could be forgiven. Think Adkins is probably out of his depth and should restrict his comments to a paragraph at the most.

 

Sorry, but NA is a football manager not a professor in English!

 

Let's get off his back eh? One game lot is not a season lost. Yes, it's galling to lose but Carlisle are not a crepe team, especially just because we did well against them last season.

 

Still a way to go and hopefully our last 'blip'?

[saint lard]

Winning while underperfoming = sign of a great team.

 

The fact is, we were shocking this season until he took over. He has turned us into a team that is back challenging for promotion, and he has done it playing better football than we were.

 

We aren't going to win every week. That is football. What has he done to upset you so much?

 

I sincerely respect your opinion,but......

in my view we are so far off being a great team it is untrue.

Who did he takeover from? Dean Wilkins,under his tenure we were very poor so it was hardley a surprise there would be a slight up turn in performance considering the upheaval after Pardew left.

you are correct we will not win every week,but i expect us,with the sqaud, coupled with all that goes with it we should be much much better on the pitch.

He has done nothing to upset me,i just want the best for SFC and i do not think he is the man for the job.

The bloody blind 'materstroke appointment' and 'superb manager' 'in Adkins we trust' ******** from the moment he was linked is vomit inducing.

He took Scunny up twice,so that means he took them down once...wow,thats the best credentials ever to take the helm at SFC ISN'T IT.

Scunny and Saints are completely different animals,where is this fast free flowing football with width people were pontificating he would introduce?

We are in no way better under his stewardship than any other manager that was linked with us,yet to some he is the messiah,even before a ball was kicked in anger.

All imo,which i,like you, are entitled too.

[saint lard]

Almost entirely agree but I'd like to see Martin in with a chance at CG as I rate him.

 

 

 

Sorry, but NA is a football manager not a professor in English!

 

Let's get off his back eh? One game lot is not a season lost. Yes, it's galling to lose but Carlisle are not a crepe team, especially just because we did well against them last season.

 

Still a way to go and hopefully our last 'blip'?

But it is'nt really one game is it,we are playing well below par,and have been for sometime.

[Window Cleaner]

 

 

Woe of woes wilkins been taking more of a hand in training for the last 10 days.

PUT THE SUITS BACK!!!!

 

 

Probably the most worrying of all your revelations to be honest.I thought he'd gone or moved out of harm's way at least, staggered when I heard on the commentary yesterday that he was still on the touchline working his magic.Bloke is a dinosaur, why oh why do we keep doing this to new managers, did the same when Dodd was always hanging about the place (think he still is as well).New manager=clean sweep and all the coaching staff from the old regime should go .

[Weston Saint]

leftback, whoever he is or wants to be, has posted twice on this thread and I have to say his comments are worrying and to a certain extent he may have put the finger on why we are not flying with the team we have.

 

few of the lads rolling their eyes at change of tactics and personel for this game!!!!

 

Id heard when na was first linked with us that he struggled to make strong decisions at scunny,(think i posted as much) and the reason we played 451/433 today was that na flaked on the decision to drop either chaplow or morgan.

 

Has Adkins won ALL the dressing room?. Why do some players not seem to want to play whilst others give 110%?

 

I am not unduly worried by a defeat at Carlisle. They are a better side than the one we played last season. However, add that to the Huddersfield loss away and doubt begins to creep in. Then look at some of our recent home games were we have won but not really performed as a team and it says to me that we are not as good as we think we are. Fortunately it is still early enough in our season to put it right. We are up there with the rest and on the basis that we are unlikely to get any worse a playoff slot should be well within our grasp. I have doubts on automatic promotion and playoffs bring the risk of failure and the loss of some of our better players.

 

Not a disaster but as leftback says, sort it out Mr Adkins. So far so good but not yet good enough for success of our 5 year plan.

[Thedelldays]

Fecking hell

 

The knives are out for Adkins already it seems...

 

Seems us saints fans have the league position we deserve

[NickG]

I doubt any manager wins all the dressing room.

 

There was a profile on Ferguson the other day on radio, when he said fans comment on one or two decisions managers make not realising the hundreds they do and how little fans understand. The amount of times decisions are slated about player being dropped etc only for us to find out they were injured etc.

 

The best way to judge is results - yesterday was a failure.

 

The results since he came in, particulraly on the back of how we were doing before him - show cause to suspect he knows what he is doing.

[yorkie]

Having gone yesterday and slept on it - we were a bit naieve yesterday.

We clealry had more idea coming forward - but Carlisle invited us to, and they counter attacked very well. Unfortunately Rhadi has no pace against fast forwards, and with Harding unable to cover effectively they were easily ahead of the game at h\t being 2-goals up. We didn't play that badly - but we do lack something when Chappers gets the ball as the most forward player! Rickie wasn't really in the game the centre back had him in his pocket (I think he is the loanee from Leeds?).

Second half much more in it - everyone seemed to up their game - but we were nearly caught by a counter attack - which led to the corner to make it 3-1.

I just wish people wouldn't over react - Saints cannot win every game!

Just a couple of more home games - and then the trip to Hartlepool. The season isn't over because we lost one game - but I do question the constant palying of Lambert. I would have taken him off at h\t and got Barney on - but that's just another option. Adam showed touches of brilliance too - but what is the point of playing Chamberlain if you don't pass it to him? I think he saw a lot more of the ball in the second half - I think an impact sub on the away games. It was tough for him yesterday - but even then he scored with his head (I think) and was regularly beating his man and putting in some decent crosses.

Lot to learn as a team - not quite there yet! When No.3 went in everyone looked at each other and started pointing to blame someone. More coaching on defending corners - but please what about scoring from one ourselves. Our corners are absolute sh*te - rarely hit our man, and never seem to threaten the goal. I can see managers telling their players - if in doubt put it out for a corner - they never score from them!

[Window Cleaner]

Fecking hell

 

The knives are out for Adkins already it seems...

 

Seems us saints fans have the league position we deserve

 

 

I very much doubt that they were ever really put away,we are a very old club with a big history, many of us shudder to see us down in the bargain basement of football, it's like purgatory.When we sacked AP for whatever reason, I fully expected us to get a name,although I have no particular problems with NA,I thought yesterday's system was apt and expected it to work very well but it didn't,but he isn't a big name manager and he obviously hasn't won over all of the fans and some are going to question him at the

least failing. I do wonder if he really knows how to handle all of the players he has at his disposition because let's face it he's a lower league manager working with players who obviously have higher league aspirations.

[Window Cleaner]

t- but please what about scoring from one ourselves. Our corners are absolute sh*te - rarely hit our man, and never seem to threaten the goal. I can see managers telling their players - if in doubt put it out for a corner - they never score from them!

 

 

Although it would help if your main striker could jump wouldn't it? just a vague notion that I picked up from some idle TV football watching.

[Seaford Saint]

????? Really ?

 

Its obvious Fitz, we need a new manager.

 

Its obvious Fitz, we need a new manager "winky weasel", of course we don't!!!!!! .....I do laugh when I think that some of the poeple on here who have said we should no longer discuss the rights and wrongs of Pardew's sacking to those who were disappointed by the events are starting to get irritable with Nigel Adkins..... I think sacking Pardew was a mistake , but we'd only be making another one if we were to sack Nigel....

 

An awful lot of people on here are thick.

 

Perhaps we should bring back George Burley as he has got his team to win 2 games in a row.

[eelpie]

I didn't see the match but have been to every home match.

What stands out is that our two main strikers who notched up 40+ goals last season and drove our run to 7th place have only managed 9 goals in open play this season. Lambert is completely out of his depth now especially when marked by two defenders. Barny has only scored four times but give legs to tired old Lambo and they can combine well -but not score enough.

 

So if Nicola wants to save this season he simply MUST bring in a top fast striker in January to replace Lambert -who has to be retired. He has become a liability and his only use will be on the bench to come on late to take penalties IF we reach the play-offs.

[saintant]

It's time for a reality check. Despite what some would say we do not have a squad that is head and shoulders above anyone else in this division or the envy of them. We have some quality players and one of genuine class in Lallana. However, we are littered with mistakes and poor individual performances so are never going to roll over every side we play. If we accept this it will be much easier to overcome the disappointment associated with defeats. Fortunately, nobody is likely to run away with this divison so we need to dig in and stay in touch which is pretty much what we are doing. There will be defeats, especially in away games but provided we do not go into a prolonged slump we have a chance of making the top two spots and a more realistic shot at the play-offs. We are not a class above the rest and need to realise that. It's a fairly even race with many teams in with a shout so, unless we spend big in the next transfer window, we're in a dogfight with the rest.

[Saint Billy]

I blame the lack of nuns on the matchday thread.

[Saint_John]

The goals (nothing else) can be seen of BBC iplayer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00w5cp5/The_Football_League_Show_2010_2011_Episode_15/

 

(47:52 to 48:55)

 

How many loan players did Carlisle have on the pitch ?

[up and away]

I didn't see the match but have been to every home match.

What stands out is that our two main strikers who notched up 40+ goals last season and drove our run to 7th place have only managed 9 goals in open play this season. Lambert is completely out of his depth now especially when marked by two defenders. Barny has only scored four times but give legs to tired old Lambo and they can combine well -but not score enough.

 

So if Nicola wants to save this season he simply MUST bring in a top fast striker in January to replace Lambert -who has to be retired. He has become a liability and his only use will be on the bench to come on late to take penalties IF we reach the play-offs.

 

This has to have a major impact. If you factor in the 20? goals Barny got at Southend before joining us, it looks far worse. What the fook Pardew did to these players in the close season I do not know, but they are poor imitations of their previous form. The only question against Adkins is for how much longer do we have this faith in Ricky?

 

The midfield was always the weak point under Pardew that suffered from consistency. Chaplow has helped but not enough. A strong midfielder and forward and I believe we can get this back on track very quickly, but I feel it has to be done.

 

I like what Adkins has done and a lot of his changes has been in response to weaknesses that needed fixing, no problem there. The one thing I am concerned with is relying on Ricky to do the business that he was performing so easily previously.

[Dalek2003]

I very much doubt that they were ever really put away,we are a very old club with a big history, many of us shudder to see us down in the bargain basement of football, it's like purgatory.When we sacked AP for whatever reason, I fully expected us to get a name,although I have no particular problems with NA,I thought yesterday's system was apt and expected it to work very well but it didn't,but he isn't a big name manager and he obviously hasn't won over all of the fans and some are going to question him at the

least failing. I do wonder if he really knows how to handle all of the players he has at his disposition because let's face it he's a lower league manager working with players who obviously have higher league aspirations.

 

We made the same msitake nearly 7 years ago when we appointed Sturrock over Hoddle (influenced by the vocal few of course). Seems we haven't learnt our lesson.

[suewhistle]

The one thing I am concerned with is relying on Ricky to do the business that he was performing so easily previously.

 

I can understand why NA has been playing Lambert on the grounds that he needs to play himself into both fitness and the form we remember, but he must surely have come to the point where he must try the approach of dropping him.

[Andy_Porter]

He's also playing too much football for a kid of his age.NA has got that one wrong, whether it's because someone is telling him to play AOC all the time I couldn't say but at barely 17 190 minutes of competitive football every week is too much.Just like a couple of our other better young players AOC needs to move on to a club where he will be nurtured and brought on for the future, not sent down the mine every tuesday and saturday.

 

Agreed, it's mental that he's still playing for the under 18's.

[Window Cleaner]

I can understand why NA has been playing Lambert on the grounds that he needs to play himself into both fitness and the form we remember, but he must surely have come to the point where he must try the approach of dropping him.

 

1 goal from open play in what 18 games is just utterly unacceptable, Fonte has managed 2 or 3,Lallana 3 and AOC 3 as well.

He won't play himself into form we are just deluding ourselves,he's not scoring because he's just not fit and adding on another 30 games just won't change that.He's over the hill for some reason or other and we're just flogging a dead horse.I don't doubt he's undroppable, it was rumoured to be so last season and I think it's probably true.

[Window Cleaner]

I've just noticed that their goals (apart from Dan's OG) were scored by players on loan from EPL clubs, pity we can't seem to get any of those then; wonder why.

[View From The Top]

Strange how it's the people who don't attend games who are the biggest c**ts with the most "informed" opinions.

 

Our support is full of total and utter w@nkers.

[THEVMAN]

Whilst it has been touched on before i would love to see Adam being played in the hole in a more central position.I think given the ball there he would cause twice the damage that he is already causing this season,he was a little ****ed off with the amount of ball he got yesterday.

[Window Cleaner]

Whilst it has been touched on before i would love to see Adam being played in the hole in a more central position.I think given the ball there he would cause twice the damage that he is already causing this season,he was a little ****ed off with the amount of ball he got yesterday.

 

Same sort of 4-4-1-1 that Carlisle played yesterday then. Would probably be good but in that system the front man has to be

particularly percussive.

[fanimal]

Interesting that in the last 3 away games, the opposition have been really up for it - Greg Abbott said it was their best performance this season. We hae got to get wise to this asap and start bullying teams in the first 15 - 20 minutes like we did alot last season.