NickG Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 0/10 for Adkins on that . Was prepared to give him a chance but now convinced that he is not only technically enept but also lacks the bottle to admit mistakes and makes changes far too late. joker of the day award! so basing your rating as tactically inept on the comments of dumb and dumber on solent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Because our keeper is a line hogger ??? I really don't know, it shouldn't be a problem but it obviously is. Nothing to do with the SH I T E marking then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 "always with those negative waves, moriarty". hth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 To boot Bignall had a decent game, apparently wanted to keep him but Reading wanted him to play games...told you so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Oh the doom, it's overwhelming me. FFS! Why can't we win every single away game to top of the table sides? If we don't win all our games home and away, we will be relegated. Coming back at the end and making a fight of it for a point was just pathetic. We should have been 3-0 up before the kick off. The manager is a pansy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 To boot Bignall had a decent game, apparently wanted to keep him but Reading wanted him to play games...told you so. point I made at the start of the season, it is hard attracting good players to league 1 if they are not guaranteed 1st team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Nothing to do with the SH I T E marking then... Zone marking by the principal central defenders may not help. Never liked it myself, man for man at corners, otherwise you get mismatches like AOC marking a 7 foot central defender or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Oh the doom, it's overwhelming me. FFS! Why can't we win every single away game to top of the table sides? If we don't win all our games home and away, we will be relegated. Coming back at the end and making a fight of it for a point was just pathetic. We should have been 3-0 up before the kick off. The manager is a pansy. Such a comedian. Please stitch my sides up. People are right to be annoyed. Adkins played with things unnecesarily and then failed to react in time. It was a great opportunity to carry on doing what we've been doing and come out looking really good at the end of it. instead it couldnt really have been worse. I accept in the grand scheme of things its not the end of the world but on a game by game analysis it was a bit of a c o c k up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 I just want to blast everyone who thinks that the only formation worth playing is 4-4-2; that everything else is defensive; and that the number of strikers you play determines how many goals you score. None of it is correct. The problem we had today were two: Firstly that we let three in. Every time we score two away we ought to win the game. Secondly that apart from AL and AOC, nobody else has shown the sharpness to score yet from open play. That Hammond did today couldn't be predicted. RL has lost his confidence and his sharpness; LB works hard and tries to appeal for freekicks and penalties, but he hasn't convinced me yet that he is a natural goalscorer. All our central midfield players shows no aptitude toward becoming a goalscoring mf, and JP doesn't look like a first choice even, anymore. In spite of all this we have done fairly OK since NA came in. I will not be down hearted in spite of the fact that this was the typical Saints loss of three points, i.e. when gaining three would have made all the difference. Is it merely a coincidence or do we bottle it when it really matters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 point I made at the start of the season, it is hard attracting good players to league 1 if they are not guaranteed 1st team Especially when we seem to have a player who is always on the team sheet no matter what he does or doesn't do. I am very depressed today, thought we'd do better but I am singularily worried by NAs team selections, he seems to be ****ing players off with his "binkys" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Disappointing but at least we never gave up. Gutting to miss out on the chance to make up three points on first but at least we haven't lost ground on top spot. On to the next match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Bad result today and not helped by negative tactics by NA. Nevertheless, one poor result changes nothing. We are still in the mix and have two homes league games coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Phew, close call, luckily I was stuck out in the middle of the Desert relying on txt updates from EoA. Not sure which the bigger disaster was in his household - the performance or running out of OSH. Started reading the post match thread but as Samaritans aren't online at the moment.... Will go read about the egg chasers instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 And the point of replacing AP with NA was.....? AP didn't seem to get on with senior management and it was affecting morale behind the scenes. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 To boot Bignall had a decent game, apparently wanted to keep him but Reading wanted him to play games...told you so. What is your point? Do you think Bignall should have started more matches? Matches we mostly won anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 must play 4-4-2 and, on another note, why oh why are we **** at defending corners???? Havent we started zonal marking? Doesn't seem to have helped at all ! Sounds like we played much better with 2 up front just make sure you start Barnard next weekend please Nige! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 AP didn't seem to get on with senior management and it was affecting morale behind the scenes. HTH but the arbitrary dropping of some players and not others won't win many friends either. Wouldn't be surprised if there were a few transfer requests flying about at SMS already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 must play 4-4-2 and, on another note, why oh why are we **** at defending corners???? Because we have a GK who does not command his box. Simples. Probably the best shot stopper in the Football League but aspects of his game such as this are not the same class (if they were he would probably be playing in the PL). LOL at those saying we must play 442 every week and then blaming NA for being tactically inept. Poor show today, hopefully we won't suffer backlash from Posh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 I accept in the grand scheme of things its not the end of the world but on a game by game analysis it was a bit of a c o c k up. On a game by game basis, there WILL be c o ck ups! This will be a lesson learned. Even with the c oc k up, we finished strongly and nearly got a point against a top club in the league away from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 What is your point? Do you think Bignall should have started more matches? Matches we mostly won anyway. Everybody knows that I think we are flogging a dead horse with Lambert ffs I've made no secret about it. Bloke has been entirely useless as a striker this season and that is his only talent. 1 goal from open play in what 17 or 18 matches is just total crap, he knows it, I know it, the manager knows it but every week he has to be on the team sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 but the arbitrary dropping of some players and not others won't win many friends either. Wouldn't be surprised if there were a few transfer requests flying about at SMS already. Agreed. Problem with having so many decent players on the bench is you have to use them or they will feel they are wasting their time and missing out on starting games at another club. Think there were a few players who should have started today and didnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 joker of the day award! so basing your rating as tactically inept on the comments of dumb and dumber on solent! Obviously you are happy with the performance today then ? Wont mind a few more seasons in this league then ? Playing one out of form striker up front on his own was not likely to get as result.Go a goal down very quickly negated the starting tactics, what does manager do..... NOTHING. Go a further goal down, what does manager do......NOTHING. ( Theres a pattern forming here if you look close ) No pressure is put on the Carlisle defence which in turn makes our five man midfield even more pointless. Yet another goal scored from an unmarked player, how many times does that happen ? FINALLY manager concedes and reverts to 442 with the result of pressure on the opposition,s defence resulting in a far better but futile ( due to now lack of time ) ending of the game. If you cant see that then YOU are the joke.............. be happy with second rate , obviously you have lower standards in life than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Disappointing result - I didnt like the formation at the start - hopefully Adkins has that one out of his system now and will not try that again. Beat Posh and Brighton and we are back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Agreed. Problem with having so many decent players on the bench is you have to use them or they will feel they are wasting their time and missing out on starting games at another club. Think there were a few players who should have started today and didnt. And there were players who shouldn't have started but they did.NA has f*cked with our midfield because of some strange reason of his own.Our main striker isn't scoring so he has had to go for goals from midfield thus bringing into play players who are a defensive disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 On a game by game basis, there WILL be c o ck ups! This will be a lesson learned. Even with the c oc k up, we finished strongly and nearly got a point against a top club in the league away from home. They may be a top club but we beat them twice last season pretty easily and if things weren't messed with today I think we would have done it again. I accept co ckups when its the winning regular side having an off day (almost) but when its random tactics causing it i think it shouldnt just be accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Jaidi and Spiderman very poor selections.. Jaidi has no legs and Spiderman is not for this league or our side..especially away from home.Get rid of both. Barnard should be playing at least alongside Lambert. We have to win our next two games or else Nigel.. Poor show Coach.. Come on Saints ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Adkins - soft goals, you cannot concede when one player doesn't do their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 NA sounds angry.3 bad goals just like I said.We went not to lose and gave away soft goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Sat in the car on the M6 with corky morris driving after watching a total pile of ****e. Harding was as poor as I've ever seen from a saints player. A very poor day at the office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Adkins " players must do better and they know it" re formation - "last two performance away were not good enough" needed for way Carlisile play - its not formation its players not doing their jobs. had more chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Adkins - soft goals, you cannot concede when one player doesn't do their job. who was that then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 3rd goal really blaming one player. - who was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Scapegoat time.... Yawn In such a tight promotion chase, the whole team has to perform, including Adkins, including Lambert. We f**ked up big time today. Got ourselves a sniff of a promotion spot, then failed to turn up YET AGAIN. We did it under Burley, we did it under Pardew. Only teams that can perform week in, week out, get promoted. And we are looking like also rans who cannot cope with the competition - again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsterdam Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 0/10 for Adkins on that . Was prepared to give him a chance but now convinced that he is not only technically enept but also lacks the bottle to admit mistakes and makes changes far too late. Maybe your username explains your agenda? Why are you "now convinced" that he is technically inept (I assume that's what you mean) and lacks bottle? Unless I was dreaming, I distinctly remember Adkins saying even after the 4-0 game against the Daggers that he wasn't satisfied and we needed to work on a few things. I accept that this is an internet forum and everyone has a right to express their views, but honestly?! Some of the drama queens we have on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 I asked that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Listen....at the end of the day...we weren't good enough...simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 FFS Adkins, just admit you coc ked up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Listen....at the end of the day...we weren't good enough...simple as that. then it is best to reconcile to no promotion again, right now. It will help to cushion the blow for the resulting pull-out of Cortese and the Liebherr family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 DON'T CHANGE A WINNING SIDE!! When you screw up don't take 70 mins to realise you screwed up. STOP SAYING ITS ABOUT WINNING A GAME OF FOOTBALL!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 when its random tactics causing it i think it shouldnt just be accepted. Random tactics? I seriously doubt they were random. I fully accept they were wrong for this game. This is footy, no team always gets it right on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Listening to Adkins trying to explain it away...simple as that. Tactically naive but hopefully we know not to try it again...although Harding sounded dire I felt NA was blaming him over all others -simple as that. Still...all there still to play for still......... simple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 FFS Adkins, just admit you coc ked up! As he says it wasn't the formation it was the execution,you don't go 4-3-3 to concede 3 goals.Missed too many easy chances just as I say as he says as well.You cannot go 4-5-1 with a lame duck like Lambert, that's what he got wrong and just that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 We got our noses up along side the leaders and the chasing pack, and choked - yet again. Its as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Clearly Adkins doesnt think he made any mistakes, which is worrying. Granted there is more than 1 way to play football but when you make the wrong decision in terms of formation you have to admit it and reassure fans that you have learnt from it. Scared to Admit he's wrong incase or Cortese Backlash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 We got our noses up along side the leaders and the chasing pack, and choked - yet again. Its as simple as that. because we beat weak sides and our principal striker still couldn't score.Until we resolve this "I have a divine right to play so up yours" attitude from that player we will have these saw toothed results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Hell yeah In such a tight promotion chase, the whole team has to perform, including Adkins, including Lambert. We f**ked up big time today. Got ourselves a sniff of a promotion spot, then failed to turn up YET AGAIN. We did it under Burley, we did it under Pardew. Yep agree with this. I find extremely frustrating when players are not dropped for under performing. Makes you wonder if certain players have clauses in their contracts? ??? Only teams that can perform week in, week out, get promoted. And we are looking like also rans who cannot cope with the competition - again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Blame the players all you want coach but today... put your hands up...YOU flucked up big time. Player selection and tactics....If this was Pards our Forum experts would be spouting lots of drivel. In reality Our Nigel is not any better......He needs to sort this out very quickly and stop blaming others. Move onto the next two home games and win both and we move on up. Come on Nigel Adkins...BIG improvement on your part coach.....six poiunts needed next two games...without fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 then it is best to reconcile to no promotion again, right now. It will help to cushion the blow for the resulting pull-out of Cortese and the Liebherr family. What??? Oh. No, I was doing an Adkins impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 Random tactics? I seriously doubt they were random. I fully accept they were wrong for this game. This is footy, no team always gets it right on the day. Maybe not random, wrong word. But such a change in formation and players used was only going to end up one way imo. As soon as I heard Jaidi was in and Lambert was up on his own I knew how it would go as per my first post of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsterdam Posted 13 November, 2010 Share Posted 13 November, 2010 I asked that! You are a faster typist than me, obviously - fair play to you!! And LVSaint - +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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