Sour Mash Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 I am being taken to task for explaining why so many long-term season ticket holders do not come to early cup games. The supporters in the Kingsland expect to have a good view of the game and that is certainly not true in the corners. The crowd figures speak for themselves. The vast majority of St Marys has good views. Yes maybe the centre of the Kingsland has the best views, but the rest of our support seems happy watching games from all over the ground. Anyone who only goes to a game if they are guaranteed the best vies in the ground aren't really Saints fans. Imagine if everyone took that attitude, we'd only have 4 or 5k at each game! Sounds more like yet another excuse for not bothering with the less glamorous games I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 No, these are the 20,000 odd seats that are happily filled by normal Saints fan on a regular basis. I do laugh at this elite group of people that will only be happy watching Saints if they have these seats to sit in when tens of thousands of Saints fans have been turning up and getting behind the side while sat all over the ground. I think I'm being polite when I call this a bit "strange". What a bunch of mugs the rest of us have been all these years, doing ridiculous things like sitting in block 5 of the Itchen to watch a game, how have we ever been able to enjoy the match I don't know..... But those 20,000 seats are not in the corner, they are always the last to sell out and for good reason. You might very well think it 'strange', but that is one of the reasons why these early-round cup games have smaller crowds, and I am not one for telling other people what to think or do. It's not a very complicated situation, if you close the best stand in the ground then you will get a smaller crowd. It was a similar situation when Rupert closed blocks 1 & 2 in the Itchen expecting that those sat there would be happy to move elsewhere. I know of several fanatical Saints fans who were so p!ssed off by the decision that they cancelled their tickets and haven't come back. The money from those tickets would have paid for the bounced cheque that put us into administration. Block 5's not too bad. Try block 11, row M seat 302. Then see if you ever want to do that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 The vast majority of St Marys has good views. Yes maybe the centre of the Kingsland has the best views, but the rest of our support seems happy watching games from all over the ground. Anyone who only goes to a game if they are guaranteed the best vies in the ground aren't really Saints fans. Imagine if everyone took that attitude, we'd only have 4 or 5k at each game! Sounds more like yet another excuse for not bothering with the less glamorous games I'm afraid. Not an excuse at all. The Shrewsbury game was an awful matchday experience and a few days before the game the only seats available were in the corners of the Itchen whilst the whole of the Kingsland was empty. You cannot blame people for not wanting to go to a game where they can't see what's happening. I feel very sorry for those young kids who were taken along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 Not an excuse at all. The Shrewsbury game was an awful matchday experience and a few days before the game the only seats available were in the corners of the Itchen whilst the whole of the Kingsland was empty. You cannot blame people for not wanting to go to a game where they can't see what's happening. I feel very sorry for those young kids who were taken along. I think you're definitely on a wind-up or just looking for an argument. 1) If the view mattered that much, then they could have made an effort and got as close to the half way line as possible as I know plenty of people didn't have any trouble doing just that. I ended up sitting as far in a corner as was possible (went to sit with a mate who had a ticket on his own and a spare seat next to him), back far corner of the Itchen North, view was fine, no problem following the game and plenty of kids there etc seemed happy enough considering the game wasn't the best, certainly no problems with the view. It is just an excuse and a poor one at that I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 But those 20,000 seats are not in the corner, they are always the last to sell out and for good reason. You might very well think it 'strange', but that is one of the reasons why these early-round cup games have smaller crowds, and I am not one for telling other people what to think or do. It's not a very complicated situation, if you close the best stand in the ground then you will get a smaller crowd. It was a similar situation when Rupert closed blocks 1 & 2 in the Itchen expecting that those sat there would be happy to move elsewhere. I know of several fanatical Saints fans who were so p!ssed off by the decision that they cancelled their tickets and haven't come back. The money from those tickets would have paid for the bounced cheque that put us into administration. Block 5's not too bad. Try block 11, row M seat 302. Then see if you ever want to do that again. I personally think that the whole ground should be open, I agree with you on that. But it's not an excuse to not go to one match. The corners make up a relatively small part of St Marys and it is VERY easy to avoid sitting in those parts if makes such a difference to you. It was VERY easy to buy a seat with a decent view for the Shrewsbury game and it'll it'll be the same for this Cheltenham game, so that's no excuse not to attend I'm afraid. For what it's worth I've sat all over St Marys for various reasons and although, the far corners don't provide as good a view as the half-way line, I can honetly say I've never had a problem enjoying or following the game from them and my eyesight isn't even that good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 (edited) I think you're definitely on a wind-up or just looking for an argument. 1) If the view mattered that much, then they could have made an effort and got as close to the half way line as possible as I know plenty of people didn't have any trouble doing just that. I ended up sitting as far in a corner as was possible (went to sit with a mate who had a ticket on his own and a spare seat next to him), back far corner of the Itchen North, view was fine, no problem following the game and plenty of kids there etc seemed happy enough considering the game wasn't the best, certainly no problems with the view. It is just an excuse and a poor one at that I'm afraid. When I bought my ticket there were very few seats available - and this with a crowd of 10,000 in a 32,000 seater stadium - because of course the directors' and Press seats take up a large area and no matter how much effort you make the number of seats there is limited. Just please try the view from M302. Call it excuses, call them poor supporters, it makes no difference. The club is a business and not a charity and needs all the income that it can get. We cannot afford to be fussy about who comes through the turnstiles. In my opinion, closing the Kingsland is a very misguided policy and results in reduced net income for both clubs. Next time, why not open the Kingsland and close the Northam? Edited 17 November, 2010 by Whitey Grandad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmysaint7 Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 I personally prefer to sit in the corners at grounds or behind goals never in the centre. I sit kingsland north half way back and it's a cracking view so people are diffferent. I do agree though that it is very strange for someone not to attend just because they can't have the exact seat.on another note it is def the quietest part of the ground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 I personally prefer to sit in the corners at grounds or behind goals never in the centre. I sit kingsland north half way back and it's a cracking view so people are diffferent. I do agree though that it is very strange for someone not to attend just because they can't have the exact seat.on another note it is def the quietest part of the ground! It's even quieter when it's closed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted 18 November, 2010 Share Posted 18 November, 2010 Centre Kingsland I gather are the most expensive seats in the ground. the club is happy to take their money season ticket wise, so why not allow them to buy cup tickets there. If you are used to watching the game on a 50" flat panel, why would you want to watch a cup game on an 18" portable in yor bedroom. A Kingsland fan is just as good as anyone else sitting in the ground, but why be told that buying a season ticket enables you to buy your seat for cup games, but only if we think the game/crowd warrants it. As i have said before, surely the cost of opening the Kingsland would be offset by those going to the game, who wish to buy their ticket there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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