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For me, it's a straight up choice between a team that looks like they work behind a deli counter (stripes) and a team that looks like a load of Embassy fag packets running around (sash).

 

Wait, that doesn't make it any easier, does it?

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Cricketphilly

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Basically, if any team changes their kit then fans wont be happy as it is "not part of their history"..... however, after a couple of years it becomes accepted and 20 years down the line, what was the controversial kit is then seen as the normal kit, and god forbid if there is any other change, despite the fact it will be accepted eventually.

 

All in all, it doesn't really matter.

 

Like the cruddy badge!

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The sash is great. Having stripes this year would have detracted from the specialness, because we have had so many variations on that shirt that it would have been very difficult to create one that was memorable as our 125th aniversary shirt.

 

Of course we should go back to stripes next season though, for that same reason of keeping the sash special.

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I like the sash and supported the idea of it for this season.

 

Stripes are more 'Saintly' though, so we should return to conventional striped shirt next season. The only acceptable alternative would be a KK style shirt from the early 80's.

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The badge looks like it was designed by a junior work experience in the design studio and presented for a joke. There's no elegance about it at all, which is a shame because our badge is actually one of the better looking football badges.

 

The badge is a seperate debate.

 

Don't agree with your view of our badge though. Gecko has produced far better on this forum as have a couple of others.

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Trouble is, if we go back to stripes (which we will) then we only get an Umbro template version and probably the same as some other club has for this season.

 

Love the idea of playing in our original kit in this our special season but best of all it is unique to Saints. That status will end next year which is a shame and I would like to see us continue with a kit that other clubs don't play in. My vote would be a return to the KK kit, which seems universally popular and would sell like hot cakes, but apart from a special year like this I can't see Umbro doing us a separate kit each year.

 

If we continue with a sash (either home or away) I notice that MC have the sponsor logo under their badge not across the sash (on MC away strip). Logo is therefore smaller but looks quite neat. We could follow suit should we have any further sashed kit.

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I can confirm that whatever SFC & the more up to date Saints fans on here will be wearing next season, Chapel End Charlie plans to persevere with his ancient (& seldom washed) Friends Provident red & white shirt regardless.

 

I can also confirm that referring to yourself in the 3rd person is indeed the first sign of madness.

 

Nigel Adkins thinks Nigel Adkins would agree with this.

 

Back to the stripes next season please, lets leave this years kit as a one-off commemorative kit.

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Where can I start?

It never made sense to me to celebrate 125 years of history by wearing a kit nobody alive saw us play in. For the vast vast majority of our 125 years we have proudly worn Red and White stripes. ALL the greats who have thrilled the Saints faithful over the years wore Red & White stripes. Ted Bates, Mick Channon, Charlie Wayman, Matthew Le Tissier, Ron Davies, Nick Holmes, Terry Paine, Peter Osgood, Derek Reeves, Kevin Keegan all wore Red & White Stripes (Red & White stripe (sic) in KKs case)

Civic and private triumph and disaster have been played out in Southampton over the last century against the backdrop of a community club recognised by the Red & White Stripes.

My parents, your parents, my grandparents, and your grandparents would all have know Southampton play in Red & White Stripes. Why then throw all that heritage away in the name of 'celebrating' our 125 anniversary? A cynic might think it was just about separating Saints fans from their hard earned money.

The quicker we can turn our back on this aesthetically displeasing, tradition busting, peruvian kit the better.

Until then, COYW.

 

Nonsense. Aesthetics is subjective. Heritage and tradition are different branches of the same tree. The kit celebrates our heritage not necessarily our tradition. You don't have to have been there to appreciate heritage, you simply need to have an appreciation of the importance of our past. You can't get more important than our founding. Playing in red and white stripes is customary and will no doubt return next season. The red sash is celebrating the 125th anniversary. It's actually quite straight forward.

 

As for what a cynic might think. Don't all clubs modify their kits every now and then to seperate us from our hard earned cash? Red sash or stripes, I suspect many of us who bought the new kit would have purchased a striped kit.

 

Your precious stripes will be beack soon.

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Leeds didn't wear white until the 1960's

 

Crystal Palace didn't wear red/blue stripes until the 1970's

 

Southampton didn't have black shorts and white/red socks until the 1950's (they were blue for the first 65 years of the club)

 

Teams can make radical changes to the kit and stick with them. The current style of Saints kit with the red sash would be unique in English football and differentiates us from Stoke/Sunderland/Sheff Utd etc.

 

It will always be the red & white stripes for me, though I have suspicion Cortese might want to keep the new 'brand'.

 

Incidentally, if anyone is interested in old kits/colours, this is a great little site. (Palace have never known what there true colous are - worse than shopping with the wife.)

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/English_Football_League/index.html

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Leeds didn't wear white until the 1960's

 

Crystal Palace didn't wear red/blue stripes until the 1970's

 

Southampton didn't have black shorts and white/red socks until the 1950's (they were blue for the first 65 years of the club)

 

Teams can make radical changes to the kit and stick with them. The current style of Saints kit with the red sash would be unique in English football and differentiates us from Stoke/Sunderland/Sheff Utd etc.

 

It will always be the red & white stripes for me, though I have suspicion Cortese might want to keep the new 'brand'.

 

Incidentally, if anyone is interested in old kits/colours, this is a great little site. (Palace have never known what there true colous are - worse than shopping with the wife.)

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/English_Football_League/index.html

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I like it and if we kept it I'd be happy. But we will revert to red and white stripes shirts but let's have blue shorts instead of black. It's made a change to looking like Stoke, Sunderland, Exeter, Sheff Utd, Brentford, Lincoln this season.

I've heard Man U fans want to change their traditional Red shirt as they are fed up with looking like Barnsley, Charlton, and Boro.

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I like it and if we kept it I'd be happy. But we will revert to red and white stripes shirts but let's have blue shorts instead of black. It's made a change to looking like Stoke, Sunderland, Exeter, Sheff Utd, Brentford, Lincoln this season.

I've heard Man U fans want to change their traditional Red shirt as they are fed up with looking like Barnsley, Charlton, and Boro.

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Couldn't care less about Man Utd. I like the sash kit and it makes us look completely different from the other teams I listed.

It looks pants, and very much like Leeds, Bolton etc from the back. If it was kept, after a couple of years all the girls on here would want yet another change to match their handbags.

Red & White stripes and black shorts, it's not difficult.

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It looks pants, and very much like Leeds, Bolton etc from the back. If it was kept, after a couple of years all the girls on here would want yet another change to match their handbags.

Red & White stripes and black shorts, it's not difficult.

 

What about from the sides as well? That'll be two more reasons to go with the 'it's traditional since the 1950's'. We'll have to disagree.

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What about from the sides as well? That'll be two more reasons to go with the 'it's traditional since the 1950's'. We'll have to disagree.

I'm not exactly sure when we started wearing stripes (ask FF) but it was at least 50 years before the 1950's. I've got a picture of the team in 1896 wearing the stripes.

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I like the sash and supported the idea of it for this season.

 

Stripes are more 'Saintly' though, so we should return to conventional striped shirt next season. The only acceptable alternative would be a KK style shirt from the early 80's.

 

all the way

 

so when are the photoshop gang getting to work on next season's proposals?

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My favourite Saints kit... ever I think, was the first CCC season kit. The one below. I like everything about it. The stripes are perfectly sized and spaced, the sleaves actually match the torso unlike last season's ghastly attempt. The badge looks good on the shield. Even the sponsor looked good. The Friends Provident logos always looked classier than the kit of plastic stickers Flybe sgeed to give away in packs of Corn Flakes. Nicely embroided and well proportioned. No collar/buttons either. I don't like the polo shirt style collars on this years shirt.

 

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Apart from the current one, this was the only kit we had for just one year. I tried it on in the shop but couldnt get it on due to only half the collar being elastic (no my head isnt that big). Also serves as our most depressing kit as it was the one that signalled a start to non Prem football.

 

My faves had to be 89-91 (hummel draper proper stripes), 97-99 (sanderson with black collar) and 2003-2005 (Friends prov solid red arm). I like my thick red stripes but not too thick so theres only like 2 stripes.

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