C`mon guys

[itchen_dan]

Got better things to do than watch some crappy FA Cup tie.

 

+1!

[Chez]

Got better things to do than watch some crappy FA Cup tie.

I honestly don't understand the mentality of some Saints fans. The FA Cup still is the best competition in the world no matter what some mug journalists say. Last seasons cup run was bloody brilliant and I hope we go bloody miles in this one as well. £15 to watch Saints in the FA cup. ****ing tremendous.

[Sour Mash]

I honestly don't understand the mentality of some Saints fans. The FA Cup still is the best competition in the world no matter what some mug journalists say. Last seasons cup run was bloody brilliant and I hope we go bloody miles in this one as well. £15 to watch Saints in the FA cup. ****ing tremendous.

 

My thoughts exactly. Shrewsbury are a decent enough side and will definitely give us a game, reckon they'll bring a few downa nd make a bit of noise as well. Anyone else see the stupidity of saints fans saying their not going to the game because the ground will be half-empty, it wouldn't be half-empty if you bothered to go!

[doddisalegend]

I was all set to go with my son for this one until my other half pointed out it's my duaghters 5th birthday party on saturday my suggestion that we hold at SMS didn't go down to well with the female side on the house ho hum . I'm gutted I ****ing love the FA cup. I really don't understand why so many fans (not just saints ones) can't be arsed with cups anymore these days most clubs would rather be bottom half of the PL than win a trophy (I remember Tony Pulis saying as much in an interview last season) I know that the leagues are the money spinners but really what about the glory of winning something.

Edited 5 November, 2010 by doddisalegend

[Sour Mash]

yeah, lets, and then see the mongs lol at you cause you are lying on the floor

 

Deciding not to go to a particular game becuase you can't sit in your usual seat is sad.

[The Kraken]

I honestly don't understand the mentality of some Saints fans. The FA Cup still is the best competition in the world no matter what some mug journalists say. Last seasons cup run was bloody brilliant and I hope we go bloody miles in this one as well. £15 to watch Saints in the FA cup. ****ing tremendous.

 

You do realise that the majority of fans don't go to every game? It's natural that people will pick and choose the games they want to go to, and this one will come low on the radar for many. Add in the fact that 2 of the stands will be closed, and it's not exactly an appealing way to spend a lot of money (the £15 ticket price is just a starting point for costs).

 

If people don't want to go, fair enough, that#s entirely their right. I don't think it's anyone's place to second guess them and criticise them for it.

[The Kraken]

Well, according to Nick Illingsworth on his site (and as I'm sure he'll soon be bleating to the Echo), those who aren't going to this game aren't proper fans.

 

I will be going, in truth I think your standing as a fan of any club is judged by the number of games you attend.[/Quote]

 

I wish I could be as good a fan as Nick, but alas it will never be.

[Whitey Grandad]

Deciding not to go to a particular game becuase you can't sit in your usual seat is sad.

 

Why? Several thousand people can't be wrong. It's not just 'your usual seat', it's not sitting with your friends that you have know for years, getting a crap view from a corner when you normally sit on the halfway line, it's a different experience. Those of you who only go to one or two games may think it doesn't matter where you sit. For the regulars it's like going to an away game.

 

Why close the best stand in the stadium? It's madness. You can't sell seats in a closed stand.

[JRM]

Why? Several thousand people can't be wrong. It's not just 'your usual seat', it's not sitting with your friends that you have know for years, getting a crap view from a corner when you normally sit on the halfway line, it's a different experience. Those of you who only go to one or two games may think it doesn't matter where you sit. For the regulars it's like going to an away game.

 

Why close the best stand in the stadium? It's madness. You can't sell seats in a closed stand.

 

you can still sit on the halfway line, you can still buy tickets with your mates. get a grip and stop looking for excuses not to go.

[JRM]

Well, according to Nick Illingsworth on his site (and as I'm sure he'll soon be bleating to the Echo), those who aren't going to this game aren't proper fans.

 

 

 

I wish I could be as good a fan as Nick, but alas it will never be.

 

he is absolutely right though.

 

you cannot say you can't be bothered to turn up, and then try and claim to be a loyal fan at the same time.

 

I'm going, really looking forward to it. Love the FA Cup. Hope we get through will be buzzing for the draw on sunday.

[Noodles34]

Deciding not to go to a particular game becuase you can't sit in your usual seat is sad.

 

no, its a right, its an expression of desire, people might think writing on this forum is sad.

[The Kraken]

he is absolutely right though.

 

you cannot say you can't be bothered to turn up, and then try and claim to be a loyal fan at the same time.

 

I'm going, really looking forward to it. Love the FA Cup. Hope we get through will be buzzing for the draw on sunday.

 

It's got nothing to do with loyalty; its that your "standing as a fan" is dictated by the number of times you go through the turnstiles.

 

Typical uber-fan nonsense, trying to justify his opinion as more important than others.

[JRM]

no, its a right, its an expression of desire, people might think writing on this forum is sad.

 

it's a right?

 

have a word with yourself and ask if you are being realistic, some people are so precious, almost like the league of gentlemen don't let anyone else touch their special seat!!

 

I used the JPT last year as a chance to sit in a few different areas of the ground.

 

i would prefer away games in the cup, chance to do a few new grounds, but ultimately want to have a decent cup run and get through a few rounds, a lot of you are so short sighted think about games like Middlesbrough v Chesterfield, one of the greatest cup semi finals i can remember, and Wycombe playing Liverpool in the semi final at Villa Park, with a decent draw we can still have a good cup run regardless of the division we are in.

[Noodles34]

you can still sit on the halfway line, you can still buy tickets with your mates. get a grip and stop looking for excuses not to go.

 

its not looking for excuses, clearly some people dont want to go. It may be that the fact you can't sit where you usually sit is a deciding factor, think everyone has the right to assess the pros and cons of going on Saturday and make up their own mind.

 

Pros - Its Saints, we support the team

Cons - We are playing a team a div below us, maybe it wont be that competitve

Pro - Its only £15

Cons - ST holders only pay that for league games that mean so much more

Pro - Its the FA Cup

Cons - Its not that important, we aint going to win it so what is the point (it is sad that this great competition has evolved into a season bit part but thats the way it seems to be these days)?

Pro - Can't think of any more

Cons - Half empty stadium, no atmosphere, sitting in a stand you dont want to otherwise you would have got your ST in it originally, boring game probably, second string team, I could go on........

[JRM]

It's got nothing to do with loyalty; its that your "standing as a fan" is dictated by the number of times you go through the turnstiles.

 

Typical uber-fan nonsense, trying to justify his opinion as more important than others.

 

i have more respect for fans who go regularly than those who don't "because they cant be bothered with the 1st round of the cup"

 

you can find the elite at the northern away games on the train.

[Noodles34]

it's a right?

 

have a word with yourself and ask if you are being realistic, some people are so precious, almost like the league of gentlemen don't let anyone else touch their special seat!!

 

I used the JPT last year as a chance to sit in a few different areas of the ground.

 

i would prefer away games in the cup, chance to do a few new grounds, but ultimately want to have a decent cup run and get through a few rounds, a lot of you are so short sighted think about games like Middlesbrough v Chesterfield, one of the greatest cup semi finals i can remember, and Wycombe playing Liverpool in the semi final at Villa Park, with a decent draw we can still have a good cup run regardless of the division we are in.

 

yeah, might happen and then we'll all be wanting to go, thats football supporters for you. Good luck to you if you want to go every game come what may, used to be like that myself back in the 90's (glad it was then and not now), but to have a go at people who say their reason for not going, well....

[The Kraken]

i have more respect for fans who go regularly than those who don't "because they cant be bothered with the 1st round of the cup"

 

you can find the elite at the northern away games on the train.

 

You rank fans? Odd.

 

A Saints fan is a Saints fan; it's not something you earn.

[Noodles34]

i have more respect for fans who go regularly than those who don't "because they cant be bothered with the 1st round of the cup"

 

you can find the elite at the northern away games on the train.

 

so to be a 'true' supporter you have to go by train? Give it up mate!

[Sour Mash]

It's got nothing to do with loyalty; its that your "standing as a fan" is dictated by the number of times you go through the turnstiles.

 

Typical uber-fan nonsense, trying to justify his opinion as more important than others.

 

More games you bother going to, the better fan you are, as a general rule, what is wrong with that? I think those who can be "bothered" to go tomorrow are better fans than those that can't be "bothered".

[The Kraken]

More games you bother going to, the better fan you are, as a general rule, what is wrong with that? I think those who can be "bothered" to go tomorrow are better fans than those that can't be "bothered".

 

Nothing wrong with it; I just disagree with it.

 

But then I've only been to 7 games this season, so I'm not a very good fan. Someone who's been to 8 or more games will be along to put me straight soon.

[JRM]

yeah, might happen and then we'll all be wanting to go, thats football supporters for you. Good luck to you if you want to go every game come what may, used to be like that myself back in the 90's (glad it was then and not now), but to have a go at people who say their reason for not going, well....

 

when their reason for not going is genuine, fair enough, or just say you cant be arsed, but don't use the old "cant have my own seat" nonsense, or "the ground will be half full"

 

you can either be bothered to go or you cant.

 

shame we didn't draw someone like Gateshead away , just a few hundred of us up there would have done for me. proper.

[Sour Mash]

Nothing wrong with it; I just disagree with it.

 

But then I've only been to 7 games this season, so I'm not a very good fan. Someone who's been to 8 or more games will be along to put me straight soon.

 

Why do you disagree with it?

[The Kraken]

Why do you disagree with it?

 

Like I say, I've been to 7 games this season. I don't for one minute think my status as a fan is much higher than someone else who has only been to six or less games.

 

Have I been to more games? Yes. Is that showing more loyalty? Yes, perhaps. Does it in any way make me a "better" fan? No, of course not.

[JRM]

Like I say, I've been to 7 games this season. I don't for one minute think my status as a fan is much higher than someone else who has only been to six or less games.

 

Have I been to more games? Yes. Is that showing more loyalty? Yes, perhaps. Does it in any way make me a "better" fan? No, of course not.

 

Some of these posts remind me of the conversations i have at work in west london

 

"oh yes, i'm into football, i'm a massive chelsea fan"

 

"oh right, do you go much"

 

"i watch on tv mostly"

 

ah ok, massive pal, so big you can't even get yourself down the ground and support "your" team. at least you know who sponsors anelka's boots.

[The Kraken]

Some of these posts remind me of the conversations i have at work in west london

 

"oh yes, i'm into football, i'm a massive chelsea fan"

 

"oh right, do you go much"

 

"i watch on tv mostly"

 

ah ok, massive pal, so big you can't even get yourself down the ground and support "your" team. at least you know who sponsors anelka's boots.

 

Yes, its exactly like that conversation. Great analogy.

[Whitey Grandad]

you can still sit on the halfway line, you can still buy tickets with your mates. get a grip and stop looking for excuses not to go.

 

1. No you can't.

2. How do you go about doing that?

3. Who said I was not going? I know plenty of people who won't be.

[Sour Mash]

its not looking for excuses, clearly some people dont want to go. It may be that the fact you can't sit where you usually sit is a deciding factor, think everyone has the right to assess the pros and cons of going on Saturday and make up their own mind.

 

Pros - Its Saints, we support the team

Cons - We are playing a team a div below us, maybe it wont be that competitve. You could argue that if we were playing Man Utd or Chelsea it wouldn't be "that competitive", but we'd get a full house for it.

Pro - Its only £15

Cons - ST holders only pay that for league games that mean so much more. Is that actually a "con"?

Pro - Its the FA Cup

Cons - Its not that important, we aint going to win it so what is the point (it is sad that this great competition has evolved into a season bit part but thats the way it seems to be these days)? On that basis only teams likely to win it should bother, so 10 teams out of 100+ sides? Great logic.

Pro - Can't think of any more

Cons - Half empty stadium, no atmosphere, sitting in a stand you dont want to otherwise you would have got your ST in it originally, boring game probably, second string team, I could go on. It wouldn't be half empty if you bothered going

 

Come on, it's only £15, give it a try, you might even enjoy the game, even if it isn't in your usal seat!

[JRM]

1. No you can't. - when the tickets went on sale my mate went down the ground and bought us a row of seats halfway line infront of directors box.

2. How do you go about doing that? - see above, by going to the ticket office any buying some tickets.

3. Who said I was not going? I know plenty of people who won't be.

Good, i hope you enjoy the game

[IFHP]

when their reason for not going is genuine, fair enough, or just say you cant be arsed, but don't use the old "cant have my own seat" nonsense, or "the ground will be half full"

 

you can either be bothered to go or you cant.

 

shame we didn't draw someone like Gateshead away , just a few hundred of us up there would have done for me. proper.

 

Yep, agree i'm going tomorrow because Saints are playing. I go to games, when I can, because Saints are playing.

 

 

I don't chose my games because the ground will be full, I dont chose my games becasue I can have Seet 102 row M block 5.

I don't chose my games becasue we are playing Brighton rather than Oldham.

 

I'm a Saints fan, not a fan of the opposition, not a fan only when the groung is full and not a fan only if I can have seat 102 row M block 5.

[The Godfather]

46 more important games means low sales.

 

Make it £7 or so for adults and I'm sure there'd be 22,000+.

 

The fact is under FA rules for this competition we cant charge £7 for this match.

[Whitey Grandad]

Your reasons are fair enough, but several thousand people can definitely be wrong. If numbers were right, x-factor is the best tv show around and the acts it produces make the best music. Sadly, the majority of people are morons.

 

That's the first rule of life, although I use the term 'idiots' myself. Not that it is more politically correct, just a result of my upbringing and experiences. Always assume that and you won't be far wrong.

 

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/03/the-words-moron-imbecile-and-idiot-mean-different-things/

[Whitey Grandad]

Yep, agree i'm going tomorrow because Saints are playing. I go to games, when I can, because Saints are playing.

 

 

I don't chose my games because the ground will be full, I dont chose my games becasue I can have Seet 102 row M block 5.

I don't chose my games becasue we are playing Brighton rather than Oldham.

 

I'm a Saints fan, not a fan of the opposition, not a fan only when the groung is full and not a fan only if I can have seat 102 row M block 5.

 

Fair enough, but I assume you are not a long-term ST holder who has been sitting with the same group for over 20 years?

[IFHP]

Fair enough, but I assume you are not a long-term ST holder who has been sitting with the same group for over 20 years?

 

Wrong, I am and I have.

[Sour Mash]

Fair enough, but I assume you are not a long-term ST holder who has been sitting with the same group for over 20 years?

 

Well you assume wrong then, he's been going regularly home and away for 20+years, but unlike some weirdos on here enjoys watching Saints play whether he is sits in the same seat as usual or not.

[Whitey Grandad]

Wrong, I am and I have.

 

Well if you normally sit in seat 102 row M block 5 I'm not surprised that you don't mind changing.

[Whitey Grandad]

Well you assume wrong then, he's been going regularly home and away for 20+years, but unlike some weirdos on here enjoys watching Saints play whether he is sits in the same seat as usual or not.

 

Look, everybody is different and I am only explaining why a very large number of people are not going tomorrow. That's their choice. It doesn't make them bad or good, just different. Personally I think that the Club has made a big commercial mistake. There is a big difference between sitting halway up the stand near the halfway line and being on the touchline in the corner. Some people have paid for parking season tickets and for the first season at St. Mary's are having to pay for cup games as well. I repeat, it's madness to close the best stand in the stadium and expect a big crowd.

[Whitey Grandad]

The fact is under FA rules for this competition we cant charge £7 for this match.

 

Correct, £10 minimum, and it has to be agreed between the two clubs.

[StDunko]

There is an aweful lot of whinging going on in this thread.

 

I've got tickets for me +1. I'm in Block 43 for a change, and looking forward to seeing a good win.

 

It's the cup, I want to get Poopey in the 3rd round and avenge last year!

 

COYR, bring it on.

[Wes Tender]

why do people have to come on here and encourage people to go? I think most people have their own minds and dont need someone (who is hoping his wife will like so she comes again???) to say "come on guys......".

 

I was embarrassed as a Saints fans in the way NC beliiteld Shrewsbury because they wanted to earn a few quid, a niave view perhaps but all the same they were entitled to ask. His reply was very disrespectful and showed a complete lack of class and professionalism.

 

I, llike a lot of others simply can't be bothered and I dont think opening two stands helps, as well as not having the chance to book your own seat. If I want to sit in a stadium watching a mathch that has a non league feel about it then I might as well go to Eastleigh and save a journey.

 

You're all over the place here it seems.

 

I see nothing wrong in somebody encouraging others to attend. Some waiverers like to have a bit of encouragement to go, but others can't be bothered like you.

 

Frankly I'm amazed that anybody would be embarrassed by the response that the club gave Shrewsbury. If they hadn't insisted on increasing the ticket price by 50% then we would not have had people on here moaning about the ticket price. Just what was disrespectful in the statement of the obvious, that they were not exactly the big name draw and therefore we were inclined to reduce the ticket price as an incentive for our fans "to be bothered"? And I wonder whether you realise the irony of you then saying that you won't be going because the match has a non-league feel about it?

 

As to whether Cortese's response showed a lack of class and professionalism, I don't see it at all. It might have smacked of him being a bit peeved because it scuppered our plans to offer our own fans a decent price in order to get the support increased, but if you prefer to support the management of the other club over ours, then go ahead.

[Saint_clark]

Stop with the threats of violence FFS, it's really quite pathetic.

[Toadhall Saint]

I honestly don't understand the mentality of some Saints fans. The FA Cup still is the best competition in the world no matter what some mug journalists say. Last seasons cup run was bloody brilliant and I hope we go bloody miles in this one as well. £15 to watch Saints in the FA cup. ****ing tremendous.

 

Nail on head.

 

The FA Cup still holds some of my best Saints memories the wins the loses the traveling F Kin great.

 

It's got nothing to do with loyalty; its that your "standing as a fan" is dictated by the number of times you go through the turnstiles.

 

Typical uber-fan nonsense, trying to justify his opinion as more important than others.

 

 

Kraken - do you know Nick? I can assure you he doesn't see himself as an Uber fan. He is just very passionate about Saints and is always open to debate if you don't agree with what he says (in this case I do not so next time I bump into him we will have a debate about it).

Edited 5 November, 2010 by Saint_clark

[dune]

If we draw a big club in the 3rd round i'll go. Until then i'll leave these noddy games for the noddy fans.

[Noodles34]

You're all over the place here it seems.

 

I see nothing wrong in somebody encouraging others to attend. Some waiverers like to have a bit of encouragement to go, but others can't be bothered like you.

 

Frankly I'm amazed that anybody would be embarrassed by the response that the club gave Shrewsbury. If they hadn't insisted on increasing the ticket price by 50% then we would not have had people on here moaning about the ticket price. Just what was disrespectful in the statement of the obvious, that they were not exactly the big name draw and therefore we were inclined to reduce the ticket price as an incentive for our fans "to be bothered"? And I wonder whether you realise the irony of you then saying that you won't be going because the match has a non-league feel about it?

 

As to whether Cortese's response showed a lack of class and professionalism, I don't see it at all. It might have smacked of him being a bit peeved because it scuppered our plans to offer our own fans a decent price in order to get the support increased, but if you prefer to support the management of the other club over ours, then go ahead.

 

Listen, if NC has said it how it was then fine, but saying stuff like "they were trying to line their own pockets...", well I dont think thats right, he didn't need to add those sort of comments on really. Its not a case of supporting another teams management as you put, its just it wasnt so long ago that we were collecting money to stay afloat, not every club has the resources that we do and you cant blame them for trying to cash in on a big draw for them.

[Noodles34]

Stop with the threats of violence FFS, it's really quite pathetic.

 

yeah, you're right but you have deleted my point about the word 'mong', so you clearly do not tolerate racist, homophobic abuse but you are saying its alright to call someone a spastic on this forum, yeah?

[Macey_J2]

Me and my mates are going, we're not in our normal seats, but we dont care. There's all day parking across the road from Solent uni, next to park view mansions and the travel inn for £4. Theres usually space in there too.

[Chez]

If we draw a big club in the 3rd round i'll go. Until then i'll leave these noddy games for the noddy fans.

 

Every JPT tie was a noddy game last season, the FA Cup however, is special, whatever round.

 

Each to their own. I have two ST pals that can't be arsed, they have bairns and want to spend time with them, but the chance to watch Saints in a proper game for £15 is too good for me to turn down.

 

By the way Shrewsbury will be decent and it will be tough, but games like this are part of what the cup is about and hopefully it will the start of a long giant killing run. Its not so long ago League 1 Wycombe made it to the quarters. We could easily do the same. ManUre were toppled by Leeds last year, maybe we can be the side that shines this time round. Can't wait for Saturday. The last few home games have been tremendous and there is nothing better in football than the FA Cup.

[Chez]

As to whether Cortese's response showed a lack of class and professionalism, I don't see it at all. It might have smacked of him being a bit peeved because it scuppered our plans to offer our own fans a decent price in order to get the support increased, but if you prefer to support the management of the other club over ours, then go ahead.

 

I personally felt it was embaressing.

 

Shrewsbury wanted £25 we want £10, the FA awarded it at £15. Seems like we did quite well there. Why the website did not just say the price was set by the FA I don't know. There was absolutely no need whatsoever to start critiscising Shrewsburys actions or belittling them as a club. We effectively got what we wanted and should have been happy with that. No need to abuse Shrewsbury. Another very very poor piece of PR from the Club to add to the list.

[JRM]

Listen, if NC has said it how it was then fine, but saying stuff like "they were trying to line their own pockets...", well I dont think thats right, he didn't need to add those sort of comments on really. Its not a case of supporting another teams management as you put, its just it wasnt so long ago that we were collecting money to stay afloat, not every club has the resources that we do and you cant blame them for trying to cash in on a big draw for them.

 

ironically with the price at £25 it is quite possible shrewsbury would have ended up with less money due to a tiny crowd. We did them a favour.

[benjii]

he is absolutely right though.

 

you cannot say you can't be bothered to turn up, and then try and claim to be a loyal fan at the same time.

 

Yes you can.

 

I will continue to go to some matches whatever division we're in, whatever numpties run out on to the pitch and despite the comings and goings of ejits in the directors' box.

 

I am a loyal fan.

 

Can't be arsed to go on Sat though.

[JRM]

Yes you can.

 

I will continue to go to some matches whatever division we're in, whatever numpties run out on to the pitch and despite the comings and goings of ejits in the directors' box.

 

I am a loyal fan.

 

Can't be arsed to go on Sat though.

 

 

hahaha. nice one.

 

"loyal" and "can't be arsed" don't tend to fall into the same category.

 

Carlisle and Hartlepool away coming up in the next few weeks chaps...................