Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 Stupid PC government allowing murderers/rapists to vote for whoever they wish. Presumably they will just vote for the party that are softest on criminals and on crime, and it appears that party is the Conservatives. At least the Labour Party wanted to machine-gun our prison population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 18 Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 Its not the government allowing it, its the european court of human rights yet again screwing around with our right to make our own policys. This government like the last lot are both opposed to the very idea of prisoners having any of the normal benifits that we as free men enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 We should tell the European Court of Human Rights to go and get lost and if they don't like it, we will have a referendum on whether they should have precedence over the laws enacted by our democratically elected Government. If they then don't like that, we should leave the EU, as that was not the body we originally joined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 We should tell the European Court of Human Rights to go and get lost and if they don't like it, we will have a referendum on whether they should have precedence over the laws enacted by our democratically elected Government. If they then don't like that, we should leave the EU, as that was not the body we originally joined. Utter joke... From an utter sham of a parliament/organisation (the EU that is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 Bet they are pleased that they are not in a Russian prison then. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=704_1288642818 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 We should tell the European Court of Human Rights to go and get lost and if they don't like it, we will have a referendum on whether they should have precedence over the laws enacted by our democratically elected Government. If they then don't like that, we should leave the EU, as that was not the body we originally joined. The European Court of Human Rights is not governed by the European Union. It is overseen by the Council of Europe. The Council is a distinct entity and is not a branch of the European Union. If the UK were to leave the EU, we would still be a signature party to the ECHR. We would, however, be able to withdraw from the ECHR should we so wish. Heck, we can leave the EU, the Council of Europe and the ECHR; we just have to consider the consequences of any decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 Bet they are pleased that they are not in a Russian prison then. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=704_1288642818 . bet the European Court of Human Rights wont get involved with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 All well and good them getting the vote, but they cant get to the polling stations anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 All well and good them getting the vote, but they cant get to the polling stations anyway! Postal votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 There seems to be a blurring of the line between human rights and civil rights. Human right,IMO, are the right to food, water, shelter, clothing. Civil rights, again imo, are about freedom, having a say, participating in society etc Prisoners are entitled to human rights irrespective of their crime. They should however automatically forfeit their civil liberties for the duration of their sentence. I heard on the radio that the potential compensation bill could run to hundreds of millions. Who said crime doesn't pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 There seems to be a blurring of the line between human rights and civil rights. Human right,IMO, are the right to food, water, shelter, clothing. Civil rights, again imo, are about freedom, having a say, participating in society etc Prisoners are entitled to human rights irrespective of their crime. They should however automatically forfeit their civil liberties for the duration of their sentence. I heard on the radio that the potential compensation bill could run to hundreds of millions. Who said crime doesn't pay. So what category does the right to freedom come under? Only a matter of time before they start protesting that imprisonment is a breach of their rights too. I'm with you, that the minute that they are imprisoned until the day they are released, the have forfeited their rights to personal freedom and the right to vote amongst others. And another aspect of this cretinous judgement that needs consideration is the question of where they should be allowed to vote. In the constituency where they are resident, i.e. where the nick is, or their home constituency? Technically, the place of their abode is the nick, in the same way that students can vote in the Constituency of their University. So thousands of them could potentially change the result of a Parliamentary Election in the Constituency where the prison is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 It's a joke how we're told what to do by Europeans. We need a referendum and we need to get out of the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 With regards to this potential compensation, why doesn't our government just turn round and say, "no, sorry, but we don't agree with that European law and refuse to comply and here's two fingers to your compensation bill, what are you going to do about it, cut our EU handout?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 Had the British people realised what the EEC would become, they would have voted to come out back in the 70'S.We were lied to by Grocer Heath and the rest of the Euro loons. I bet the leftie BBC want be ramming home the point that an unelected body is telling us who can vote in our elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 This is an outrage! These oiks spend all day in their cosy cells watching tv and planning future criminal activities while their families also sit at home in their council estates watching sky tv and living the life of riley on benefits with their kids getting free laptops etc. And no we are giving them the right to vote as well as eat porridge. All of these convicted low life scum should be shot and their families forced to work in work houses to earn food and water. I didn't spend years working hard on gaining my HND qualification to pay for this. I expect much better from a Tory government. This would not have happened under Thatcher! Disgusted Col. Stanley Mustard Rightwingbarsteward Ivory Castle England The Empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 (edited) This is an outrage! These oiks spend all day in their cosy cells watching tv and planning future criminal activities while their families also sit at home in their council estates watching sky tv and living the life of riley on benefits with their kids getting free laptops etc. And no we are giving them the right to vote as well as eat porridge. All of these convicted low life scum should be shot and their families forced to work in work houses to earn food and water. I didn't spend years working hard on gaining my HND qualification to pay for this. I expect much better from a Tory government. This would not have happened under Thatcher! Disgusted Col. Stanley Mustard Rightwingbarsteward Ivory Castle England The Empire ha ha made me laugh ,looks like you got the measure of these posters it sums up the same people who post their predicible daily mail bile on this thread. Edited 2 November, 2010 by solentstars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 The ECHR is not part of the EU. Thankyou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 Had the British people realised what the EEC would become, they would have voted to come out back in the 70'S.We were lied to by Grocer Heath and the rest of the Euro loons. I bet the leftie BBC want be ramming home the point that an unelected body is telling us who can vote in our elections. oh dear:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 (edited) The ECHR, which is not part of the EU also performs an important roll in our democracy. It's the closest we have to a US style Supreme Court. And our Supreme Court is pathetic... before anyone points out we do have one. I suppose some of you want us to leave the council of Europe? Even Russia is in the council of Europe! Edited 2 November, 2010 by Saintandy666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 2 November, 2010 Share Posted 2 November, 2010 It's not Daily Mail bile - I just fundamentally disagree with convicted felons having the right to vote. I also believe that prisoners should be rehabilitated - although I don't believe that an automatic right to vote is particularly helpful in acheiving this. If it was truely a rehabilitation measure then how about they can "earn" back their right to vote after, say, they have served 50% of their sentence without trouble and have participated in whatever rehab programmes sent their way. Surely that is better than carte blanche right to all convicts irrespective of their crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 3 November, 2010 Share Posted 3 November, 2010 This is an outrage! These oiks spend all day in their cosy cells watching tv and planning future criminal activities while their families also sit at home in their council estates watching sky tv and living the life of riley on benefits with their kids getting free laptops etc. And no we are giving them the right to vote as well as eat porridge. All of these convicted low life scum should be shot and their families forced to work in work houses to earn food and water. I didn't spend years working hard on gaining my HND qualification to pay for this. I expect much better from a Tory government. This would not have happened under Thatcher! Disgusted Col. Stanley Mustard Rightwingbarsteward Ivory Castle England The Empire http://order-order.com/2010/11/02/lowlife-celebrates-votes-for-prisoners/ You keep good company Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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