Echo match ratings

[saintrich]

Saw in the echo that lallana was the only one with an 8/10... Yet SIX notts county players were given an 8... Including the defender that was sent off. wtf.

[sfc4prem]

Saw in the echo that lallana was the only one with an 8/10... Yet SIX notts county players were given an 8... Including the defender that was sent off. wtf.

 

Ratings are relative to the performance compare to the quality of the player. By all accounts we played poorly on Saturday and were lucky that they went a man down.

[MarkSFC]

Who really gives a **** about one journalists opinion? It's meaningless.

[LostBoys]

Who cares about the Echo - you must be the only one reading it by now. AdamLeitch is the biggest joke around - he just makes it up as he goes along - was he actually at Nottingham?

[Fitzhugh Fella]

They got all the booking mixed up as well

[stanthemanfairoak]

Who cares about the Echo - you must be the only one reading it by now. AdamLeitch is the biggest joke around - he just makes it up as he goes along - was he actually at Nottingham?

anyone see him there,i think not ,the echo is just a load of rehashed news from the day before.

[John B]

Who really gives a **** about one journalists opinion? It's meaningless.

 

Just like your opinion perhaps

[Wes Tender]

Nobody actually gives a damn what the Echo thinks anymore. The most important figures associated with that match are Saints 3 points, Notts County zero points.

[MarkSFC]

Just like your opinion perhaps

 

That's your parogative.

[The Kraken]

Christ, the amount of Echo bashing really is a bit sad on here. Get over yourselves, they're a local newspaper and provide coverage that their many readers need and enjoy. Strangely enough not everyone who buys the Echo is also a member on here and checks the Official Site every day. If you don't like the paper (and there are clearly many who don't) then simply don't buy it; it's a very simple equation.

[saintrich]

Ratings are relative to the performance compare to the quality of the player. By all accounts we played poorly on Saturday and were lucky that they went a man down.

 

I know it's relative to performance, but seeing six players with an 8/10 rating would suggest they played a lot better than they did.... We didn't play our best, but they weren't that good either.

 

Not echo bashing, just wondered if people agreed with the ratings.

[doddisalegend]

Personally I like to sit down with a copy of the Pink, a bacon sarnie and a big mug of coffee on a sunday morning to get someone elses view on the match, don't always agree with it but that's football (just look at the post match threads on here). Don't really give a **** about the whole NC/echo spat the echo is the only paper that gives any meanigful coverage to saints so I'll read it. Prehaps when we get back to the prem the national press might gives us more coverage and I'll swap to a different sunday morning rag, but while we're down in the lower leagues the Echo is going to be it as far as press coverage goes.

 

As for the OP we were by all accounts pretty poor until Notts county went down to ten men so that may reflect the scores some what, but it's just one guys opinion doesn't mean you have to agree.

[chocco boxo]

Neil McCann once got 8/10 in the Echo.

[rolosfc]

Neil McCann once got 8/10 in the Echo.

 

He was also once a professional footballer and an international, unbelievable really.

[a1ex2001]

he was also once championed by this forum as a solution to our prolems when we were relegated!

[Pedro]

Don't think Hammond featured much in any ratings but made the division team of the day.

[Hatch]

anyone see him there,i think not ,the echo is just a load of rehashed news from the day before.

 

Damn papers, printing yesterdays news. Jeez.

[SaintRichmond]

Saw in the echo that lallana was the only one with an 8/10... Yet SIX notts county players were given an 8... Including the defender that was sent off. wtf.

 

To be honest, if you were a neutral, you would have to concede the simple fact that (IMHO), had the Notts player not been sent off, the likelyhood was that Saints were heading for defeat

 

I know that is scralege to all Rosy Specs, but, at that stage in the match, Saints were definitely NOT playing well

 

Welcome as any Win is, it has to be viewed allowing for all circumstances

 

We are NOT quite Invincible yet

[Eric The Red]

I agree Saint Richmond that we were not playing well at the time County gave away the penalty but over the whole game up to then we had more possession and had played the better football. Our problem as usual was making it count. After the sending off there is no doubt about the better team.

So (allowing for the fact I'm biased) I can see how a neutral might have rated the players pretty even but from the look of it those were the ratings of a Notts County fan

[Wes Tender]

To be honest, if you were a neutral, you would have to concede the simple fact that (IMHO), had the Notts player not been sent off, the likelyhood was that Saints were heading for defeat

 

I know that is scralege to all Rosy Specs, but, at that stage in the match, Saints were definitely NOT playing well

 

Welcome as any Win is, it has to be viewed allowing for all circumstances

 

We are NOT quite Invincible yet

 

If their player had not been sent off, we were heading towards defeat? Rather like saying that had we not scored the three goals, they would have beaten us 1-0. Did you think that the challenge by their defender was not a foul in the penalty area? That he should not have been sent off as the last defender between Barnard and the goal? Because if you allow that the penalty was just, then you also accept that the score was then 1-1 and that we were headed for a draw at least. That our spirits were raised, that they weren't able to shut up shop in the second half, that Adkins made some telling substitutions are all additional reasons why we came away with a victory and all three points.

 

Even had the penalty and sending off not happened, there is no cast iron guarantee that the substitutions would not have changed the match in our favour.

 

But if the report is correct that the player who got sent off and arguably lost the game for them (in accordance with some opinions) was given an 8 by the Echo, then that is just plain bizarre.

[SaintRichmond]

I agree Saint Richmond that we were not playing well at the time County gave away the penalty but over the whole game up to then we had more possession and had played the better football. Our problem as usual was making it count. After the sending off there is no doubt about the better team.

So (allowing for the fact I'm biased) I can see how a neutral might have rated the players pretty even but from the look of it those were the ratings of a Notts County fan

 

I agree

 

I still think we lack another recognised striker, or, at the very least, someone who can come on and be unpredictable, ie Waigo or Antonio

 

Waigo especially, No One in the ground ever knew what he was going to do, but he was certainly effective, and different

[skintsaint]

clue is in the title...'Match' rating...not a 'played well up until the 60th min' rating.

[SaintRichmond]

If their player had not been sent off, we were heading towards defeat? Rather like saying that had we not scored the three goals, they would have beaten us 1-0. Did you think that the challenge by their defender was not a foul in the penalty area? That he should not have been sent off as the last defender between Barnard and the goal? Because if you allow that the penalty was just, then you also accept that the score was then 1-1 and that we were headed for a draw at least. That our spirits were raised, that they weren't able to shut up shop in the second half, that Adkins made some telling substitutions are all additional reasons why we came away with a victory and all three points.

 

Even had the penalty and sending off not happened, there is no cast iron guarantee that the substitutions would not have changed the match in our favour.

 

But if the report is correct that the player who got sent off and arguably lost the game for them (in accordance with some opinions) was given an 8 by the Echo, then that is just plain bizarre.

 

It is all down to opinions

 

Mine is that we were NOT playing well, and were one goal down. The sending off certainly changed the game Big Time IMHO

 

Before you ask, yes, I am a Saints fan, and I think that watching Saints for over Fifty years does allow me to form a credible opinion of a game

 

Blind Faith is one thing, Reality is another

 

A very welcome Victory, but it COULD have turned out differently, had County retained Eleven players (My opinion, no more, no less)

[madruss]

You've got to admit though, it's 10 times more satisfying to win and get the 3 points having not played that great, than it is to draw or lose yet be told you were the better side.

 

At the start of last season it was always so frustrating having to say 'we should have won that, we played them off the park', the same thing happened at the start of our 1st season in the ccc, give me loads of scrappy wins over winless 'performances' any day of the week

[SaintRichmond]

You've got to admit though, it's 10 times more satisfying to win and get the 3 points having not played that great, than it is to draw or lose yet be told you were the better side.

 

At the start of last season it was always so frustrating having to say 'we should have won that, we played them off the park', the same thing happened at the start of our 1st season in the ccc, give me loads of scrappy wins over winless 'performances' any day of the week

 

That is the pleasing aspect about it, the fact we got 3 points yet did not play too well, as opposed to what you have said

 

The sort of thing that Hansen anf Lawrenson go on about, "grinding out a victory without playing well"

 

Let's hope we can go on from strength to strength, starting tonight V's a potential Banana Skin

[jam]

To be honest, if you were a neutral, you would have to concede the simple fact that (IMHO), had the Notts player not been sent off, the likelyhood was that Saints were heading for defeat

 

I know that is scralege to all Rosy Specs, but, at that stage in the match, Saints were definitely NOT playing well

 

Welcome as any Win is, it has to be viewed allowing for all circumstances

 

We are NOT quite Invincible yet

 

If it had been eleven v eleven do you think that Notts would have scored again?

[benjii]

Don't think Hammond featured much in any ratings but made the division team of the day.

 

Hammond was probably our best player on Saturday IMO.

[Jesus Reigned]

Hammond was probably our best player on Saturday IMO.

 

Other than his ability to score from 3 yards....

 

[benjii]

Other than his ability to score from 3 yards....

 

 

That was a bad miss actually!

[Wes Tender]

It is all down to opinions

 

Mine is that we were NOT playing well, and were one goal down. The sending off certainly changed the game Big Time IMHO

 

Before you ask, yes, I am a Saints fan, and I think that watching Saints for over Fifty years does allow me to form a credible opinion of a game

 

Blind Faith is one thing, Reality is another

 

A very welcome Victory, but it COULD have turned out differently, had County retained Eleven players (My opinion, no more, no less)

 

I don't question your loyalty to the Saints, nor your right to your opinion. Just that County brought about the change to their position themselves when they were making it hard for us to break them down. As I say, it isn't really feasible to say that had they not committed the foul that resulted in the penalty and the sending off they would have won, as that was the turning point in the game. But if the penalty and sending off was the fault of their player and fair, then that player was the architect of their downfall. Would Barnard have scored if not fouled? Would we still have gone on to have scored the other two goals? Who knows? But it might well have happened following the substitutions. As the old cliche says, it is a game of two halves. I am always mindful of that game against Leeds when they overturned a 3 goal deficit to win 3-4 within the last 20 minutes. No doubt their fans thought that we were flying and that there was nothing in it for them.

 

Just as a matter of interest, just try putting into Google Southampton 3 and see what comes up.

[SaintRichmond]

If it had been eleven v eleven do you think that Notts would have scored again?

 

IMHO, Yes

[Lets B Avenue]

Other than his ability to score from 3 yards....

 

 

That was a bad miss actually!

 

A defender got a touch and a corner was awarded.

 

Mind you with that ref.........