Aitch or haitch

[alehouseboys]

OK, another one, how many put the 'area code' for Southampton as (02380) when it is really just '023'. The '80' bit became part of our personal numbers when they were running out of variations. Anyway it's 'aitch' aint it...innit...is it not?

[Whitey Grandad]

OK, another one, how many put the 'area code' for Southampton as (02380) when it is really just '023'. The '80' bit became part of our personal numbers when they were running out of variations. Anyway it's 'aitch' aint it...innit...is it not?

 

I wold go even further than that... Why does anybody put the '0' on the front?

[Redondo Saint]

Aitch

Should have

 

End of.

[dune]

And another irritation is the word "subsidence".

 

Will all the spastics who say sub-sid-ence please correct themselves and say sub-side-ence.

 

Thick ****s.

[norwaysaint]

This is all a bit pointless as language is meant to change, but I've noticed one formerly correct British pronunciation all but disappear over the years and that's "advertisement".

 

adver-TIZE-ment = US English

ad-VER-tiss-ment = British English

 

I don't have a problem with it though, language changes, the original article on the OP points out that none of us say finn-ance instead of Fine-ance, yet this was previously "correct". If you stick with "correct" pronunciation despite the changes that take place, you'll eventually be wrong.

[Dimond Geezer]

OK, another one, how many put the 'area code' for Southampton as (02380) when it is really just '023'. The '80' bit became part of our personal numbers when they were running out of variations. Anyway it's 'aitch' aint it...innit...is it not?

 

If we have moved on too numbers, I'd like to add, that the first & last digits (the eliptical things) in the number 02380 are called zeros or naughts, not 'oh' which is a letter.

 

Thanks I feel better now I've got that off (or as some say 'off of' ) my chest.

[Whitey Grandad]

If we have moved on too numbers, I'd like to add, that the first & last digits (the eliptical things) in the number 02380 are called zeros or naughts, not 'oh' which is a letter.

 

Thanks I feel better now I've got that off (or as some say 'off of' ) my chest.

Strictly speaking it's not 'naught' because that means nothing. Each of these symbols is merely one digit in a long number so a zero cannot be a nought or naught.

[Dimond Geezer]

Strictly speaking it's not 'naught' because that means nothing. Each of these symbols is merely one digit in a long number so a zero cannot be a nought or naught.

 

I thought, probably incorrectly, that zero was an americanism, and naught is wot us edjerkated people this side of the pond say.

 

It's lucky I alway use zero then.

[benjii]

This is all a bit pointless as language is meant to change, but I've noticed one formerly correct British pronunciation all but disappear over the years and that's "advertisement".

 

adver-TIZE-ment = US English

ad-VER-tiss-ment = British English

 

I don't have a problem with it though, language changes, the original article on the OP points out that none of us say finn-ance instead of Fine-ance, yet this was previously "correct". If you stick with "correct" pronunciation despite the changes that take place, you'll eventually be wrong.

 

I haven't noticed a prevalence of the Yank variation amongst my peer group but then we are all (well, mostly) well educated.

[dune]

This is all a bit pointless as language is meant to change, but I've noticed one formerly correct British pronunciation all but disappear over the years and that's "advertisement".

 

adver-TIZE-ment = US English

ad-VER-tiss-ment = British English

 

I don't have a problem with it though, language changes, the original article on the OP points out that none of us say finn-ance instead of Fine-ance, yet this was previously "correct". If you stick with "correct" pronunciation despite the changes that take place, you'll eventually be wrong.

 

I have a problem with the yank pronounciation. I'm English so i expect English to be spoken properly by English people.

[Nellie]

I have a problem with the yank pronounciation. I'm English so i expect English to be spoken properly by English people.

 

Pronunciation, FFS.

 

I thought you were claiming intelligence?

[norwaysaint]

Dune, do you say finn-ance instead of fine-ance? Or have you just moved on with popular culture?

 

Do you still use the polite form of the pronoun "you" (thou)or have you discarded that as it has become unfashionable?

 

If you've accepted any of these changes which were once wrong, but now accepted, why don't you accept others that are happening in just the same way?

[dune]

Pronunciation, FFS.

 

I thought you were claiming intelligence?

 

Welldone. I didn't think any of you thickos would spot it.

[norwaysaint]

I have noticed before on this thread that Dune uses the American spelling variant "pronounciation" rather than the British spelling "pronunciation".

 

I suppose he just likes to use Americanisms, which is fine.

[dune]

I have noticed before on this thread that Dune uses the American spelling variant "pronounciation" rather than the British spelling "pronunciation".

 

I suppose he just likes to use Americanisms, which is fine.

 

See above post.

[Whitey Grandad]

I thought, probably incorrectly, that zero was an americanism, and naught is wot us edjerkated people this side of the pond say.

 

It's lucky I alway use zero then.

 

Zero drives from the Arabic 'zephyr' via a long route and its invention was an important step in arithmetic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(number).

 

Naught is, I believe, and older english version meaning 'nothing', as in the famous poem by Arthur Hugh Clough: 'Say not the struggle naught availeth' http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/arthur_hugh_clough/poems/7006

[Pancake]

Dune, do you say finn-ance instead of fine-ance? Or have you just moved on with popular culture?

 

Run that one by me again.... finn-ance?

[benjii]

Yes finn-ance. As in financier. I'm going for some respit from this nunsince.

[Whitey Grandad]

Yes finn-ance. As in financier. I'm going for some respit from this nunsince.

 

When did this so-called poshtalk start? If you listen to Winston Churchill or King Edward VIII for example they just sound like us ordinary people. They didn't say 'hice' for 'house'.

[skintsaint]

Dune likes to big note oneself eh?

[Dimond Geezer]

Zero drives from the Arabic 'zephyr' via a long route and its invention was an important step in arithmetic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(number).

 

Naught is, I believe, and older english version meaning 'nothing', as in the famous poem by Arthur Hugh Clough: 'Say not the struggle naught availeth' http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/arthur_hugh_clough/poems/7006

 

Thanks for that Grandad. Interestingly though wiki says zero comes from the arabic "safira" :

 

Etymology

The word "zero" came via French zéro from Venetian zero, which (together with cipher) came via Italian zefiro from Arabic صفر, ṣafira = "it was empty", ṣifr = "zero", "nothing".[27]

 

Also when entering nought into wiki it directs you (thou) to the "zero" page.

I guess we are just going around in circles here (pun intended).

[Whitey Grandad]

Thanks for that Grandad. Interestingly though wiki says zero comes from the arabic "safira" :

 

Etymology

The word "zero" came via French zéro from Venetian zero, which (together with cipher) came via Italian zefiro from Arabic صفر, ṣafira = "it was empty", ṣifr = "zero", "nothing".[27]

 

Also when entering nought into wiki it directs you (thou) to the "zero" page.

I guess we are just going around in circles here (pun intended).

 

Yes, when I said arabic 'zephyr' I was, of course, anglicising the word. I believe that cipher is also related. There are plenty of other words from arabic, azimuth, zenith, nadir. (and 'bint', but that has nothing to do with mathematics or astronomy)