Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 (edited) Because it has a legal implication on those that have paid for a very specific facility. Dont get me wrong, i WANT to do it, but Im concerned about what position it would leave us in if a number of users strongly opposed us giving away something for free that they have paid for Perhaps gauge what the feeling is by doing a poll first. If it is a lot of people who don't like the idea, then obviously another solution will have to be proposed. It's got to be worth trying as it has got very boring (realise this isn't your fault). EDIT: Turns out it's fine so ignore everything I say. Now to get naked girls to replace those ugly mugs at the top of the page. Edited 27 October, 2010 by Dibden Purlieu Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Hooray for saintsweb democracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 can someone who's a registered user confirm you can now start a thread... not sure if ive done it right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Some very good points on this thread, but of course the problem is we would then be giving away for free a "facility" that subscribed members have paid the privilege for. Its all well and good saying we should just do it, but how would you (if you were in our shoes) deal with the complaints of those subscribed members who feel we have cheapened their membership. Hardly fair on them is it? You apologise and tell them that if they wish to cancel their membership as a result of the changes you will refund them pro rata for the remainder of their membership year. I'd be more worried about losing the already paid up members who are expressing concerns about the way this place is run and operated than of losing the number (seriously, how many, 1, 2?) of people who would genuinely be annoyed enough to quit on the basis of those changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 can someone who's a registered user confirm you can now start a thread... not sure if ive done it right No luck for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Absolutely not, don't implement it for a year or so. I've just coughed up specifically to start a thread. Me and steve have checked, and as far as we can tell there's no where where we state starting threads is a privilege, except for this thread of course :S With that in mind, ill make the changes to the forum now and put an announcement out that all registered users can now start threads. FFS. I trust my fiver will be refunded to my paypal account forthwith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Cheers Wurzel... that's a really good spot! FFS. Seriously. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 And has Deppo been banned? FFS. Seriously. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Yes he has. For some reason Baj and SG have decided that no one can make a funny or flippant comment on a football based thread. Can you imagine if real life reflected this? If at the pub you were chatting about football and one of your mates said something funny, then they had to leave the pub for ruining the conversation? Or a better comparison, some over-earnest member of the group, say as a random example, Hypochondriac, went and complained to the barman that somebody had said something funny and asked for them to be kicked out. Why can't people laugh and joke on a football based thread? What kind of dull real life conversations do these people who report flippant posts have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 I don't think it would be as bad if deppo had posted anything of any seriousness on the main board for about a year. All he ever posted about was stupidity which is fine in moderation but gets out of hand when you do it every time on the main board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Deppo hardly spammed the threads though. If anything he made them more readable. Ridiculous, jobsworth, pretentious nonsense to ban him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 I don't think it would be as bad if deppo had posted anything of any seriousness on the main board for about a year. All he ever posted about was stupidity which is fine in moderation but gets out of hand when you do it every time on the main board. Deppos contributions were invaluable in puncturing some of the posturing and pomposity. I can see why you werent a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Deppos contributions were invaluable in puncturing some of the posturing and pomposity. I can see why you werent a fan. And yet it had no effect on you. How odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Deppos contributions were invaluable in puncturing some of the posturing and pomposity. I can see why you werent a fan. Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 If you wanted real wit on the main board then you should invite evil monkey to post on there again. He was brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 And yet it had no effect on you. How odd. Just admit it's a stupid decision, that only someone with a sense of humour bypass and an over-inflated sense of importance would make, and we'll say no more about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao Cap Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Deppo banned? If anything, he must have prevented the suicides of half a dozen posters by breaking up the walls of bile-splattered text from the usual saddos with some humour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 I don't think it would be as bad if deppo had posted anything of any seriousness on the main board for about a year. All he ever posted about was stupidity which is fine in moderation but gets out of hand when you do it every time on the main board. Am I the only one who thinks attitudes like this are what have made SWF a duller place to come to and Deppo actually made it a more entertaining place. It was the same with posters like Wiltshire and Kadeem, both banned too. They could cut to the point far quicker with a satirical comment than a hundred of these endless repetitive and earnest posts. Sadly people who struggle with satire think it's just someone being stupid, off topic or flippant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Just admit it's a stupid decision, that only someone with a sense of humour bypass and an over-inflated sense of importance would make, and we'll say no more about it. The only stupid decision was his - that, despite numerous warnings, he couldn't leave his "humour" for the parts of the site where it would actually be relevant. I'm sure you'll be pleased to know that the infractions that were handed out to him which pushed him over the 10-point milestone recently weren't done by me, so you can direct your "over-inflated sense of importance" digs elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 And yet it had no effect on you. How odd. Ah sticking up for your mates again no matter how ridiculous or unpopular they are Steve. 10 out of 10 for loyalty. 1/10 on 'How to run a successful and vibrant forum'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Ah sticking up for your mates again no matter how ridiculous or unpopular they are Steve. 10 out of 10 for loyalty. 1/10 on 'How to run a successful and vibrant forum'. How do you score on that one, by the way? FWIW, to my knowledge I've never even met "hypochondriac", so I don't see how I'm "sticking up for my mates" there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 How do you score on that one, by the way? FWIW, to my knowledge I've never even met "hypochondriac", so I don't see how I'm "sticking up for my mates" there In that case retracted with apologies. I perceived he was one of the golden circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Am I the only one who thinks attitudes like this are what have made SWF a duller place to come to and Deppo actually made it a more entertaining place. It was the same with posters like Wiltshire and Kadeem, both banned too. They could cut to the point far quicker with a satirical comment than a hundred of these endless repetitive and earnest posts. Sadly people who struggle with satire think it's just someone being stupid, off topic or flippant. But as I said, I have already praised the likes of evil monkey for his use of wit and satire. I suppose I just found the likes of Kadeem and deppo a bot too obvious and unfunny. Maybe I just remember the hilarity of the old s4e. Each to their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 How do you score on that one, by the way? FWIW, to my knowledge I've never even met "hypochondriac", so I don't see how I'm "sticking up for my mates" there I have met you , you just didn't realise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Am I the only one who thinks attitudes like this are what have made SWF a duller place to come to and Deppo actually made it a more entertaining place. It was the same with posters like Wiltshire and Kadeem, both banned too. They could cut to the point far quicker with a satirical comment than a hundred of these endless repetitive and earnest posts. Sadly people who struggle with satire think it's just someone being stupid, off topic or flippant. Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 The only stupid decision was his - that, despite numerous warnings, he couldn't leave his "humour" for the parts of the site where it would actually be relevant. I'm sure you'll be pleased to know that the infractions that were handed out to him which pushed him over the 10-point milestone recently weren't done by me, so you can direct your "over-inflated sense of importance" digs elsewhere. They are directed at the management team. You can't pass the buck. This is a stupid decision that has made the forum much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Hypochondriac, whatever else some may think of them, or how appropriate their contribtions, Kadeem, Wiltshire etc made some contributions that were so far beyond the obvious that I can't help you just didn't get them, which isn't your fault, but they were often very funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Aboslutely. But as I'm sure you appreciate, he broke the rules repeatedly. You can't just do nothing purely because some find him entertaining whilst others consider him boring and unfunny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 The only stupid decision was his - that, despite numerous warnings, he couldn't leave his "humour" for the parts of the site where it would actually be relevant. I'm sure you'll be pleased to know that the infractions that were handed out to him which pushed him over the 10-point milestone recently weren't done by me, so you can direct your "over-inflated sense of importance" digs elsewhere. Is Deppo banned for good, or just suspended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 But as I'm sure you appreciate, he broke the rules repeatedly. You can't just do nothing purely because some find him entertaining whilst others consider him boring and unfunny. I find your avatar boring and unfunny. Im not pushing for you to get banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Hypochondriac, whatever else some may think of them, or how appropriate their contribtions, Kadeem, Wiltshire etc made some contributions that were so far beyond the obvious that I can't help you just didn't get them, which isn't your fault, but they were often very funny. I accept that. I did find some of that stuff on the off topic forums mildly amusing. It was more deppo all over the main board which was irritating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 I find your avatar boring and unfunny. Im not pushing for you to get banned. But I'm breaking no rules so why would I be banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 It wasn't loads, though. I understand a need for boundaries, but I also think that the main forum doesn't have to be entirely devoid of humour or flippancy to be a valid medium for football based discussion. I thought Deppo was pretty funny as well. I know someone who knows him, and apparently he's quite fat, which makes him even funnier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Is Deppo banned for good, or just suspended? Suspended as in hung out to dry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 The only stupid decision was his - that, despite numerous warnings, he couldn't leave his "humour" for the parts of the site where it would actually be relevant. I'm sure you'll be pleased to know that the infractions that were handed out to him which pushed him over the 10-point milestone recently weren't done by me, so you can direct your "over-inflated sense of importance" digs elsewhere. Is this really what this place is coming to ?? Really ?? FFS I struggle to see how those that have a problem with humour and sattire fit with the day to day runnings of real life ? I mean, do they just wander from library to library constantly upset by those in the street laughing and joking ?? How dare they break up a well meant convosation with a slap dash of interesting and laugh worthy humour. F*ck me i hope i am never stuck in a lift with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Deppo sleeps with the fishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Is this really what this place is coming to ?? Really ?? FFS I struggle to see how those that have a problem with humour and sattire fit with the day to day runnings of real life ? I mean, do they just wander from library to library constantly upset by those in the street laughing and joking ?? How dare they break up a well meant convosation with a slap dash of interesting and laugh worthy humour. F*ck me i hope i am never stuck in a lift with them. It wasn't loads, though. I understand a need for boundaries, but I also think that the main forum doesn't have to be entirely devoid of humour or flippancy to be a valid medium for football based discussion. I thought Deppo was pretty funny as well. I know someone who knows him, and apparently he's quite fat, which makes him even funnier. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Am I the only one who thinks attitudes like this are what have made SWF a duller place to come to and Deppo actually made it a more entertaining place. It was the same with posters like Wiltshire and Kadeem, both banned too. They could cut to the point far quicker with a satirical comment than a hundred of these endless repetitive and earnest posts. Sadly people who struggle with satire think it's just someone being stupid, off topic or flippant. Nope. Your are amoungst a majority. Unfortunately the Daily Mail moan club minority once again ruins the world for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 who would ever want to run a football forum?????? This is madness, Granty and Baj have provided a service that I suspect makes them little if anything. Tot up the time and they will be in the negative. If they decide the aggro is too much and decide to pull the plug you will soon tire of the UI and its odd layout and way the posts are displayed. this site i believe is as good as any and whilst i feel that the posters are banned too easily, it is not my site and so respect their concerns. I like Deppo and the other off the wall posters, as they do lighten some of the more polarised threads, Baj has now stated that non members can start their own threads. Now there is no excuse to keep moaning about the site being quiet. Of course it is nothing to do with the fact that we are now a L1 club with the stuffing knocked out of us with little to get excited about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 (edited) But I'm breaking no rules so why would I be banned? Ah you believe in a rules based community rather than a principles based one with mods exercising sound judgement. Thats exactly how this forum ended up where it is and the financial crisis happened - two events which, to my knowledge, have not previously been linked... Edited 27 October, 2010 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 I accept that. I did find some of that stuff on the off topic forums mildly amusing. It was more deppo all over the main board which was irritating. Why don't you just ignore it ?? You must be pretty easy to annoy if you can't just skip past his posts. It wasn't like he was a spammer was it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Quite simply, if you ban people for exhibiting wit or flair, you end up with a bunch of humourless twonks regurgitating the same tired points over and over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 May i add i have met Granty and Baj. Both are good lads,(to me they are still lads, must be mid to late 30's ....kidding) even though Baj never sent me a DVD he said he would Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Why don't you just ignore it ?? You must be pretty easy to annoy if you can't just skip past his posts. It wasn't like he was a spammer was it ? I did ignore it. I didn't ban him I'm just saying I'm not displeased he has gone as personally I didn't find him funny. Others are extremely amusing on here. I think deppo would have been better if he contributed to the topics in a sensible way an posted other comments as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 I did ignore it. I didn't ban him I'm just saying I'm not displeased he has gone as personally I didn't find him funny. Others are extremely amusing on here. I think deppo would have been better if he contributed to the topics in a sensible way an posted other comments as well. In his defence, I noticed a lot of posts from him that were indeed on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Quite simply, if you ban people for exhibiting wit or flair, you end up with a bunch of humourless twonks regurgitating the same tired points over and over... That wasn't why he was banned though. Also I don't think he dd dismay much with tbh. Just my opinion though. Wish we still had access to the saintsforever archive. There was comedy gold on there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 I did ignore it. I didn't ban him I'm just saying I'm not displeased he has gone as personally I didn't find him funny. Others are extremely amusing on here. I think deppo would have been better if he contributed to the topics in a sensible way an posted other comments as well. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 In his defence, I noticed a lot of posts from him that were indeed on topic. Fair enough. Must have missed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Has Alpine been banned?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Has Alpine been banned?? Think he just finds the forum too depressing for his taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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