Sunday Report for Rupert

[SaintRichmond]

 

Something tells me there is more to this picture than meets the eye as it doesn't make good business sense to keep driving the valuation of this club downward if you are looking to sell??????????

 

Jacksons farm? Personal Vendetta? First signs of a man losing his marbles?

 

 

A combination of both IMHO

 

Lowe has never, or will never, forgive and forget the fact that he WAS ousted from his lofty Throne

 

He will NEVER relinquish any semblance of power to anyone now, Come Hell and High Water

 

He came back, thanks to Judas Wilde, for his OWN Egotistical motives ....... and they have absolutely NOTHING to do with the Football Players that the likes of you and I go to see

 

I cannot believe that so many Southampto people can be so Gullible ....... perhaps when we line up against Div 1 and Div 2 opposition, the penny will drop ......... The PLC will still be viable, but the Team will be very poor

[OldNick]

A combination of both IMHO

 

Lowe has never, or will never, forgive and forget the fact that he WAS ousted from his lofty Throne

 

He will NEVER relinquish any semblance of power to anyone now, Come Hell and High Water

 

He came back, thanks to Judas Wilde, for his OWN Egotistical motives ....... and they have absolutely NOTHING to do with the Football Players that the likes of you and I go to see

 

I cannot believe that so many Southampto people can be so Gullible ....... perhaps when we line up against Div 1 and Div 2 opposition, the penny will drop ......... The PLC will still be viable, but the Team will be very poor

some high and mighty remarks that actually contradict.

 

'Lowe has never, or will never, forgive and forget the fact that he WAS ousted from his lofty Throne'

 

'He came back, thanks to Judas Wilde

[SaintRichmond]

some high and mighty remarks that actually contradict.

 

'Lowe has never, or will never, forgive and forget the fact that he WAS ousted from his lofty Throne'

 

'He came back, thanks to Judas Wilde

 

 

It does NOT contradict, IF it is viewed for what it was ...... A Devils Alliance .... purely BUSINESS ...... a Means to an End ..... it does in no way mean that Lowe has Forgiven OR Forgotten ...... As time progresses, it will be interesting to see WHO puts the knife into the others back first

 

We have yet to discover as to WHY they are hand in hand, but you can bet your bottom Dollar, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with Football

[OldNick]

It does NOT contradict, IF it is viewed for what it was ...... A Devils Alliance .... purely BUSINESS ...... a Means to an End ..... it does in no way mean that Lowe has Forgiven OR Forgotten ...... As time progresses, it will be interesting to see WHO puts the knife into the others back first

 

We have yet to discover as to WHY they are hand in hand, but you can bet your bottom Dollar, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with Football

Well if he would never forgive he would never join forces and even attend meetings with him.It is just another wild statement to try and sway opinion.

[SaintRichmond]

Well if he would never forgive he would never join forces and even attend meetings with him.It is just another wild statement to try and sway opinion.

 

 

BUSINESS .. BUSINESS ...

 

Just because Two people make a BUSINESS Alliance does not make them FRIENDS ...... cant you see that ??

 

It is a BUSINESS Alliance .... to get both back in "power"

[OldNick]

BUSINESS .. BUSINESS ...

 

Just because Two people make a BUSINESS Alliance does not make them FRIENDS ...... cant you see that ??

 

It is a BUSINESS Alliance .... to get both back in "power"

but he was never going to forgive.An egotist does not get revenge like you are portraying.

You are gilding the Lily to suit your arguement.

[Snowballs2]

but he was never going to forgive.An egotist does not get revenge like you are portraying.

You are gilding the Lily to suit your arguement.

 

Nick we know that you have some sort of contacts at SMS is this the reason that you are so supportive of the various boards of directors we have and have had ? Its a fair question, because according to you the sun shines 24 hours a day. Do you never question the happenings of individuals at SMS ?

[OldNick]

Nick we know that you have some sort of contacts at SMS is this the reason that you are so supportive of the various boards of directors we have and have had ? Its a fair question, because according to you the sun shines 24 hours a day. Do you never question the happenings of individuals at SMS ?

Snowballs. I can understand where you come from and it surprises me sometimes how upbeat I can be about something that is so dire in my life.

I can categorically tell you I have never met or had any contact from RL except when I wrote and told him it was crucial to get the choice of manager right in the close season when we moved stadia.I got a courteous reply, form a computer generated letter.

If you were bored enough to trawl through my posts you would see many critical posts against the clubs board, some against RL and many more against the people who hoodwinked many and took the club over before RL's return.

I dont know how many times I have to post it 'Nickh would love someone to take over the club who was credible. I dont wish for change for change sake but wish for someone to take over put money in and make us stable again.

At present of the very few options we have RL is the best IMO.'

Get a plausible option in and I will jump ship immediately

[Greenridge]

Nick we know that you have some sort of contacts at SMS is this the reason that you are so supportive of the various boards of directors we have and have had ? Its a fair question, because according to you the sun shines 24 hours a day. Do you never question the happenings of individuals at SMS?

 

It's this aspect I think which prevents Nick from making objective viewpoints on matters unfortunately and why he makes himself a target.

[Snowballs2]

Snowballs. I can understand where you come from and it surprises me sometimes how upbeat I can be about something that is so dire in my life.

I can categorically tell you I have never met or had any contact from RL except when I wrote and told him it was crucial to get the choice of manager right in the close season when we moved stadia.I got a courteous reply, form a computer generated letter.

If you were bored enough to trawl through my posts you would see many critical posts against the clubs board, some against RL and many more against the people who hoodwinked many and took the club over before RL's return.

I dont know how many times I have to post it 'Nickh would love someone to take over the club who was credible. I dont wish for change for change sake but wish for someone to take over put money in and make us stable again.

At present of the very few options we have RL is the best IMO.'

Get a plausible option in and I will jump ship immediately

 

Ok I see where you are coming from, but your continual defence of all at SMS is often questionable. However I respect that you do have an opinion , which, is different to mine. I guess we will agree to disagree...mostly

[southamptonfc]

If Lowe hadn't left, we wouldn't be in the dire financial situation we are in now. All of the OPs points are innacurate.

 

Lowe isn't that bad, he's trying to stop us going bankrupt. It was the people in charge after Lowe left that screwed us over. Before we just not very good. Now we aren't very good and could go into administration. Given the choice, I know which I would chose.

[OldNick]

Nick we know that you have some sort of contacts at SMS is this the reason that you are so supportive of the various boards of directors we have and have had ? Its a fair question, because according to you the sun shines 24 hours a day. Do you never question the happenings of individuals at SMS?

 

It's this aspect I think which prevents Nick from making objective viewpoints on matters unfortunately and why he makes himself a target.

Greenridge, that is offensive. Perhaps intentional I dont know.

As my viewpoints are not the same as yours what makes you have the arrogance to say Iam wrong.

I left school at 16 and have since that day made my living by my own actions.I never in that time relied on anyone in this world to put clothes on my or my famillies back and have a good lifestyle that many would be envious of.Because of that I have made decisions and weighed up opportunities that were sometimes brave and stupid to others but i did it my way.Perhaps that experience gives me a different perspective than others, I dont know but my objectivity and judgement should not be disrespected just because you have your own blinkered views how a football club should be run..

[Greenridge]

Nick we know that you have some sort of contacts at SMS is this the reason that you are so supportive of the various boards of directors we have and have had ? Its a fair question, because according to you the sun shines 24 hours a day. Do you never question the happenings of individuals at SMS? Greenridge, that is offensive. Perhaps intentional I dont know.

As my viewpoints are not the same as yours what makes you have the arrogance to say Iam wrong.

I left school at 16 and have since that day made my living by my own actions.I never in that time relied on anyone in this world to put clothes on my or my famillies back and have a good lifestyle that many would be envious of.Because of that I have made decisions and weighed up opportunities that were sometimes brave and stupid to others but i did it my way.Perhaps that experience gives me a different perspective than others, I dont know but my objectivity and judgement should not be disrespected just because you have your own blinkered views how a football club should be run..

 

I can't see how you can take that comment as offensive or arrogance but that is your choice. It was not meant as either. I am not saying you are wrong, my point is Nick is that debating with you is somewhat pointless as you only see the absolute positives of everything connected to SFC and RL in particular. It's clearly not just myself who find your perceived obsession with RL as somewhat intriguing. If you were able to acknowledge that not everything they touch turns to gold then maybe it would make the debating process more constructive. We all want the same thing and to achieve that we have to recognise there are some significant shortfalls in where we are right now.

[OldNick]

 

I can't see how you can take that comment as offensive or arrogance but that is your choice. It was not meant as either. I am not saying you are wrong, my point is Nick is that debating with you is somewhat pointless as you only see the absolute positives of everything connected to SFC and RL in particular. It's clearly not just myself who find your perceived obsession with RL as somewhat intriguing. If you were able to acknowledge that not everything they touch turns to gold then maybe it would make the debating process more constructive. We all want the same thing and to achieve that we have to recognise there are some significant shortfalls in where we are right now.

It is not the quote highlighted that you put up but your post accompanying it that I found offensive.

You again have got me wrong.I dont see all positive in RL or the club.Perhaps you are too blinkered to see.

You have a total dislike of RL and cant bear to think some others can see he does not do all wrong.Read above and you will see a statement I made to Snowballs about him.

I disliked hsi words when Hoddle was going to return and it still wrankles with me 'you are only fans, when we run the club' or words to that effect.That doesnt blind me so much that we have very little choice in the business sense and how little we can manouver now.

IF RL can save us from adminstration (when I say RL save us, I mean his actions) that is as good as a forward who scores enough goals to gain us 15 points. That is why it is imperitive he does get it right off the pitch.

Again get someone in who can finance the club and spend money on the team and Im with you, if you can't then I'm still in the RL camp while he keeps the banks at bay and the administrators out.

[Greenridge]

It is not the quote highlighted that you put up but your post accompanying it that I found offensive.

You again have got me wrong.I dont see all positive in RL or the club.Perhaps you are too blinkered to see.

You have a total dislike of RL and cant bear to think some others can see he does not do all wrong.Read above and you will see a statement I made to Snowballs about him.

I disliked hsi words when Hoddle was going to return and it still wrankles with me 'you are only fans, when we run the club' or words to that effect.That doesnt blind me so much that we have very little choice in the business sense and how little we can manouver now.

IF RL can save us from adminstration (when I say RL save us, I mean his actions) that is as good as a forward who scores enough goals to gain us 15 points. That is why it is imperitive he does get it right off the pitch.

Again get someone in who can finance the club and spend money on the team and Im with you, if you can't then I'm still in the RL camp while he keeps the banks at bay and the administrators out.

 

Maybe we both have perceptions of each other wrong - as we have in the past. I would consider myself very much 'middle ground' on the situation at the club in that I can see some positive elements in the work RL and his team have done but also see that there are many negatives ones also. I have no bias either way and am more than happy to debate and take on board contributions from all 'sides'. Surely that is what a forum is for? Like you, from my limited knowledge of such matters I see absolutely no positives for the case of administration which could easily be the end of the road for SFC.

 

I guess we'll continue to disagree but as long as it is an adult manner then I for one have no problems and like you wish for a brighter future for our club. Financial strength and a united Club (Board, Staff, Players and Fans) is the way forward but as we all know from bitter experience there appears to be no easy route to this.

[Snowballs2]

Nick and Greenridge..we all three of us love the club and have for many years , that is a fact. I suppose that the three of us have totally different views both of the club and some of the directors past and present.

The one thing that binds us together (our support excepted) is that we care.

Our opinions may vary our concerns do not, and, as long as the debates are both sensible and healthy it can only be good.

[OldNick]

Another of the things I put up regularily is that I have no issue with anyone on the forum.We are all Saints fans and so that is fine by me.I only cannot respect a poster who put up that he wished for a player from our team got a career threatening injury.perhaps in hindsight he may regret that comment, but to this day has never retracted it.

[Matt SFC]

I think that is valid, but also with the squad we have now would have NP and I for 1 still say that he took us into the relegation spot in the first place when he arrived we were miles clear.I still was happy to give him a chance though.

 

 

I generally agree with Nick's views on this thread. In particular the above post. We're already doing better than last seasons final position so why doesn't everyone cheer up a little.

[Long Shot]

 

I can't see how you can take that comment as offensive or arrogance but that is your choice. It was not meant as either. I am not saying you are wrong, my point is Nick is that debating with you is somewhat pointless as you only see the absolute positives of everything connected to SFC and RL in particular. It's clearly not just myself who find your perceived obsession with RL as somewhat intriguing. If you were able to acknowledge that not everything they touch turns to gold then maybe it would make the debating process more constructive. We all want the same thing and to achieve that we have to recognise there are some significant shortfalls in where we are right now.

 

 

Greenridge has a fair point Nickh - you do seem a bit too fervent in your defence of Lowe to make me think your views are genuine and unbiased.

[um pahars]

 

 

Greenridge has a fair point Nickh - you do seem a bit too fervent in your defence of Lowe to make me think your views are genuine and unbiased.

 

It's all very similar to long lost LongLifeMilk who was being used and abused by Lowe & Cowen on a regular basis.

 

How I long for those outbursts where he was fed ****** and bullshtyit and used to shoot from the hip on here:D

[OldNick]

[umpahars]

 

It's all very similar to long lost LongLifeMilk who was being used and abused by Lowe & Cowen on a regular basis.

 

How I long for those outbursts where he was fed ****** and bullshtyit and used to shoot from the hip on here:D

I think AC has the ear of others on here, I have never met or spoken to him either.As for people being fed B####it that is comical when we have posters actually believing DMG has a guarentee to play.So before some get all ****sure of themselves they should look into a mirror.

 

Apologies to Greenridge as this was attributed to him earlier when in fact it was in answer to Um Pahars, sorry Greenridge

Edited 8 October, 2008 by OldNick