70's Mike Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 Why do the football authorities think it is ok to inflict a Ref on League One who was not good enough for the Premiership or CCC On todays performance we is not good enough for any level of football
markr27 Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 (edited) Another shocking performance at St Marys, joining his effort against Blackburn in the Prem in Sturrock's last game... Has he been involved with Saints between those times, if so, was he as bad then as he was today? Got a great view of the challenge on Guly in the 2nd half, a clear spot kick, yet both D'Urso and the linesman were well behind the play..... Any other thoughts to share? mods please merge with other thread please! Edited 23 October, 2010 by markr27
Nexstar Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 He seemed to be looking away from the ball when key decisions needed to be made and then gave everything to Oldham. The linesman weren't much better, missed most free-kick/penalty appeals and failed to spot some obvious offsides. Useless overall, the FA need to sort a lot of things out.
Thedelldays Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 Terrible... Barnard was getting thrown all over and he did nothing and they nearly scored from it.. 5 mins added time.. What the hell for???
Huffton Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 It says something when you come away form a game with 3 points and still moaning about the officials. Incompetant tw ats of the highest order.
Huffton Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 5 mins added time.. What the hell for??? 6 subs, 1 goal, and at least 3 physio visits. Not defending his awful performance, but the added time was about right.
Lighthouse Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 6 subs, 1 goal, and at least 3 physio visits. Not defending his awful performance, but the added time was about right. Plus, is it not the 4th official who calculates the added time anyway?
Saint Samuel Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 I get a lift to the games with an ex referee, he reckons D'Urso was banned from taking charge of Premier League games and took them to court, anyone know anything about this?
Window Cleaner Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 I get a lift to the games with an ex referee, he reckons D'Urso was banned from taking charge of Premier League games and took them to court, anyone know anything about this? it"s a well documented case. D'Urso ****ed up at the Saints v Blackburn match back in 2004, booked the same Blackburn player twice without sending him off. For this he got suspended from taking PL games for a while, about a month initially.Look him up on Wiki..
madruss Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 Totally agree, he was terrible. Guly was about to pass the ball into the back of the net, then was clearly fouled. Should have been both a pen and a red card. No consistency in his decisions, and just before they had their last minute chance, Barnard was flattened and he gave nothing.
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 I think the only way he was going to give Lee Barnard a free kick today if was a Oldham player pulled out a gun and shot him in the head - anything less than that and it was 'play on'.
saintscottofthenortham Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 Barnard was flattened about 2 minutes prior to the one where they nearly scored from aswell. I have been cursing the standard of refereeing in this division, but to be honest, I'll be glad to get back to league one standard after that display. To say I was gobsmacked at the entire display from him would be an understatement. Absolutely shocking. What's worse is that the Lino didn't do him any favours either. And they wonder why refs have no respect...? Watch back that display and it's a perfect advert for why refs get abused non stop. An utter disgrace.
Saint Samuel Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 it"s a well documented case. D'Urso ****ed up at the Saints v Blackburn match back in 2004, booked the same Blackburn player twice without sending him off. For this he got suspended from taking PL games for a while, about a month initially.Look him up on Wiki.. I remember that now, shame he wasn't banned for life judging by today's performance.
Saint_clark Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 I can't quite decide which was worse - his performance today or Peter Waltons V Leeds.
markr27 Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 I can't quite decide which was worse - his performance today or Peter Waltons V Leeds. That was bad.
MK Saint Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 I can't quite decide which was worse - his performance today or Peter Waltons V Leeds. Thats the worst I can remember. D'urso was poor today, I didn't have a clear view of the Guly incident but Barnard was getting consistently fouled and got absolutely nothing.
Saint_clark Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 I wonder if they were deliberately trying to wind Barnard up to get him to retaliate?
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 Plus, is it not the 4th official who calculates the added time anyway? No, the allowance for time lost is 'at the discretion of the referee'.
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 He certainly wasn't at his best today. There were some unorthodox decisions and he turned his back on one or two incidents. I'm not sure what happened to Guly. The players didn't seem to protest and the crowd behind the goal were cool about it.
Andy_Porter Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 Wasn't D'Urso the ref for our play-off game against Derby? He's ****.
saintscottofthenortham Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 He certainly wasn't at his best today. There were some unorthodox decisions and he turned his back on one or two incidents. I'm not sure what happened to Guly. The players didn't seem to protest and the crowd behind the goal were cool about it. Chapel Stand...
markr27 Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 (edited) From where I was sat in Block 10, Guly was definitely impeded. The players presumably didn't bother to protest as they thought it was a waste of time. Edited 23 October, 2010 by markr27
Huffton Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 the crowd behind the goal were cool about it. Umm, no, we weren't!
doddisalegend Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 He certainly wasn't at his best today. There were some unorthodox decisions and he turned his back on one or two incidents. I'm not sure what happened to Guly. The players didn't seem to protest and the crowd behind the goal were cool about it. Well I certainly wasn't and the 10 year old sat a couple of seats from me shouting the "refrees a ******" wasn't.
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 Umm, no, we weren't! Sorry, I must have missed you. I'm in the Kingsland and all I could see were blank staring faces.
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 Well I certainly wasn't and the 10 year old sat a couple of seats from me shouting the "refrees a ******" wasn't. So what exactly happened to Guly, then?
doddisalegend Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 So what exactly happened to Guly, then? from where I was sitting he was hauled down as he went to shoot, the Oldham defender had his arms all over Guly and pulled him down. Having said that the Oldham defenders quite happily did the same to Barnard loads of shirt tugging, arms over the shoulders and little pushes all of which the ref didn't seem bothered about. Although he did do Barnard for backing in once and Fonte for holding on so maybe he was only bothered when saints players did something.
Saint_lambden Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 I can't quite decide which was worse - his performance today or Peter Waltons V Leeds. Don't think anyone could be as bad as he was although D'Urso was heading that way.
corky morris Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 He was poor today. A number of times Barnard was simply pushed & he ignored it. BUT IMHO I thought the Guly incident was not a pen. I though Guly just did not connect with his pass/shot & fell over becuase he was embarrassed!
rallyboy Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 it always feels more valid when the winning team complain about the ref and he was very poor, so fill your boots! When he let the Oldham player off early on for angrily throwing the ball at an opponent right in front of him he issued a licence for any dissent. The fouls on Barnard were ridiculous, I couldn't see the Gully one but did wonder why he didn't seem to muster a shot, the ref also missed at least one handball when they were on the attack and one of the linesman looked like he missed the ball out of play - twice. Why did he let them contest that drop ball??? That created ill-feeling which was great for us (cos we were winning and we hate dirty northerners) but not so good for anyone who cares about player behaviour. A very odd performance from the ref which thankfully didn't cost us points, but when I next hear of a manager going ape and getting a ban following a D'Urso performance I will assume he has had another mare. Full marks to Adkins for keeping the players' disciplined and finishing with eleven players and three points.
Saint Lindford Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 Guly was clearly fouled in the act of shooting. Penatly No 1. Ball clearly crosses the line for a throw in, linesman 5 yds away does nothing. Barnard clearly was held back. Penalty No 2 Barnard was thrown to the floor, clear free kick and Oldham nearly score an undeserved equaliser. Same linesman for all 4 decisions and he must have had a clear view of all four. Possibly the worst display from a referee at SMS for years, just glad it did not cost us the points today. The offici
latter day saint Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 was a shocking performance! Barney must of thought he was back in Whitehouse, with all the roughing up he received. i now have a couple of inches of skin missing from my shin from booting the seat in front of me, as i got so frustrated by his inept performance.
rallyboy Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 just seen the photos - clearly a pen for Gully, the guy has got hold of his arm and pulled him back. More worryingly it looks like Saint Lindford just had a seizure mid-rant! Unless of course that mystery sentence was about to start - The official photos.....
BILLY Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 So what exactly happened to Guly, then? I was in the Family Section - it was a defo pen. Everyone around me agreed too.
georgeismyname Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 Why did he let them contest that drop ball??? The referee can't get involved with telling a team to give the ball back to their opponents from a drop ball. He's not allowed to say 'you kick it back to them' cos it's not up to him. However, I think it backfired on Oldham cos it got the crowd fired up, the team fired up and on the way to victory (at a time when if i remember correctly, we were at 1-1). I do agree though that it was a terrible performance. Can't comment on the penalty cos I didn't get a good enough view but he seemed determined for Oldham to get an equaliser at the end!!
Appy Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 He is cvnt end of, always has a chip on his shoulder for us because of that incident with Barry Ferguson in the relegation season.
rocknrollman no2 Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 (edited) was a shocking performance! Barney must of thought he was back in Whitehouse, with all the roughing up he received. i now have a couple of inches of skin missing from my shin from booting the seat in front of me, as i got so frustrated by his inept performance. Yeah i know what you mean Latter day saint. Not only are my shins skinless,my voice is sore because of shouting abuse at that ref. Edited 23 October, 2010 by rocknrollman no2 spelling when drunk
Saint Lindford Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 just seen the photos - clearly a pen for Gully, the guy has got hold of his arm and pulled him back. More worryingly it looks like Saint Lindford just had a seizure mid-rant! Unless of course that mystery sentence was about to start - The official photos..... No idea what happened there. Have just sent an e-mail rant to the FL regarding Mr D'Urso's performance today.
red robbo Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 i had a rant at him as he came off,just grinned at me.........utter *****
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 The referee can't get involved with telling a team to give the ball back to their opponents from a drop ball. He's not allowed to say 'you kick it back to them' cos it's not up to him. However, I think it backfired on Oldham cos it got the crowd fired up, the team fired up and on the way to victory (at a time when if i remember correctly, we were at 1-1). I do agree though that it was a terrible performance. Can't comment on the penalty cos I didn't get a good enough view but he seemed determined for Oldham to get an equaliser at the end!! I'm sure that when he stopped play the ball was nowhere near the place where he dropped the ball. That was where the injured player was lying.
LostBoys Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 Astonishingly poor performance from him and his myopic linesmen.
Chorlton Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 Only a small point, and agree with the above, but at one point Oldham were attacking and they were offside. The lino flagged and D'Urso acknowledged it but played on. We didn't have the ball under control and it was bobbling around the edge of our area. A goal for them then would have made for an interesting reaction
Jonnyboy Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 add to that the ****e linesman in the first half giivning about 6 dodgy offsides
Jimmy_D Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 That refereeing performance was one of the very worst I've seen. I can't decide whether it was worse than the Leeds one or not. (Still, at least we won both of those games )
devonsaint Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 The referee can't get involved with telling a team to give the ball back to their opponents from a drop ball. He's not allowed to say 'you kick it back to them' cos it's not up to him. Yes he can, Chris Foy did exactly that in the Spurs/Everton game today. Another example of D'Urso's incompetance.
devonsaint Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 Only a small point, and agree with the above, but at one point Oldham were attacking and they were offside. The lino flagged and D'Urso acknowledged it but played on. We didn't have the ball under control and it was bobbling around the edge of our area. A goal for them then would have made for an interesting reaction This was probably the only decision D'Urso got right - he overruled the linesman because Seabourne played the ball to the Oldham man. However, it does show how bad the linesman was!
hamster Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 I feklt that the crap lino gave up towrd the end too. He was way behind play for most of the first half but second half he started off being ignored by d-urso so maybe he thought, oh well, f it i won;lt bother.
benjii Posted 23 October, 2010 Posted 23 October, 2010 Walton was worse. D'urso was a D'inlo today though.
dronskisaint Posted 24 October, 2010 Posted 24 October, 2010 I can't quite decide which was worse - his performance today or Peter Waltons V Leeds. Walton's was worse but this was more inept. Walton seemed happy to give decisions until Leeds scored...this twart is purely incompetent.
derry Posted 24 October, 2010 Posted 24 October, 2010 Yes he can, Chris Foy did exactly that in the Spurs/Everton game today. Another example of D'Urso's incompetance. No he can't. He can drop the ball but it is up to the players. In a game that is so full of hypocrisy and cheating it is a rediculous situation to knock the ball out and expect to get it back. If the referee thinks one of the players needs immediate attention it is down to him to halt the game not the players. All dropped balls should be contested. Yesterday the ball was in Oldham's half when the whistle was blown, it was rediculous to give the drop ball level with the penalty area where the player went down. I got the feeling he was going to keep playing until Oldham equalised.
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