MOBO awards

[iansums]

If I started the MOWO (Music of white origin awards) would that make me a racist?

 

Does the fact that I think the MOBO awards are racist make me a racist?

 

I don't like a lot of MOBO i.e. rap, soul etc., does that make me a racist?

 

Personally, I detest racism, it has no place in today's society but the MOBO awards irritate me.

[David]

More importantly, why were no rock acts nominated? Isn't just about every genre of music 'of black origin'.

[JackFrost]

it's basically every genre you hear on 1xtra

[Lighthouse]

The problem with starting a MOWO awards ceremony is that MOWO doesn't really exist. That and the fact that all the EDL/BNP skinhead types would all rally around it and turn it into a race war.

[Colinjb]

The fact that these awards exist damages the whole race equality argument in itself.

[SuperMikey]

I can't wait until Dune posts on this thread.

[Chorlton]

They do exist. Awards ceremony was the other night

 

http://newsarse.com/2010/10/21/chas-and-dave-secure-clean-sweep-at-mowos/

[Pancake]

[iansums]

They do exist. Awards ceremony was the other night

 

http://newsarse.com/2010/10/21/chas-and-dave-secure-clean-sweep-at-mowos/

 

Bloody racists!

[Redondo Saint]

over here there is a tv channel called BET

 

 

 

 

 

 

Black Entertainment Television

 

 

 

 

go figure!

[dune]

I can't wait until Dune posts on this thread.

 

I will be making no comment. Anyway can't stop - i'm currently watching Death drums along the river on Film4 which is one of my favourite films.

[Hamilton Saint]

More importantly, why were no rock acts nominated? Isn't just about every genre of music 'of black origin'.

 

No.

 

Classical

Folk

Country & Western

Bluegrass

Pop

[Johnny Bognor]

The problem with starting a MOWO awards ceremony is that MOWO doesn't really exist.

 

That's right, Beethoven, Mozart et al were all from Africa

[saint lard]

I find it a tad ironic that there is a 'Black Police officers association'.

Uproar would ensue if there were a 'White Police officers association' would there not ?

[swannymere]

Is this the annual post about the MOBO's with someone having read something somewhere else and deciding it was funny and reposting it here everybody would think he was some kind of comedy genius, or just some sad ****?

[Jonnyboy]

No.

 

Classical

Folk

Country & Western

Bluegrass

Pop

 

ill pass on watching that night out then

[Lighthouse]

That's right, Beethoven, Mozart et al were all from Africa

 

That's classical music and I'm sure they have their own awards.

 

I have no moral objection to the concept of MOWOs, it's just a silly idea. Having an awards ceremony which lumps together Chas 'n' Dave with Beethoven just because they happen to be white. MOBO works because black music, as far as I can tell, is pretty much in a similar vein. Rap, Hip-hop, contemporary R&B etc.

[The Kraken]

Is this the annual post about the MOBO's with someone having read something somewhere else and deciding it was funny and reposting it here everybody would think he was some kind of comedy genius, or just some sad ****?

 

I think it's the former, yes.

 

When the MOBO awards start excluding white artists I might lend the criticism a semblance of credibility.

[Colinjb]

That's classical music and I'm sure they have their own awards.

 

I have no moral objection to the concept of MOWOs, it's just a silly idea. Having an awards ceremony which lumps together Chas 'n' Dave with Beethoven just because they happen to be white. MOBO works because black music, as far as I can tell, is pretty much in a similar vein. Rap, Hip-hop, contemporary R&B etc.

 

Then why not call it the 'Ethnic Minority Awards'?

 

The Emas. Nice.

[Kadeem Hardison]

It would be a bit strange on here if someone didn't post this boring, reactionary post around this time again. Perhaps we should make it a sticky then we could use the same thread every year?

[hamster]

Why are all the judges on the X Factor white?

 

There's one to think about eh? eh?

 

And why no gay judges either eh? eh?

[badgerx16]

..... as far as I can tell, is pretty much in a similar vein. Rap, Hip-hop, contemporary R&B etc.

R&B is Rhythm & Blues - what they are talking about is more like an evolution of Philadelphia Soul.

 

What does R&B refer to in this context anyway ?

[Ponty]

Every f**king year. Without fail.

[badgerx16]

?

 

And why no gay judges either eh? eh?

 

The Israeli version of Strictly Come Dancing is about to get it's first lesbian celebrity, she will be dancing with a female professional.

[Lighthouse]

R&B is Rhythm & Blues - what they are talking about is more like an evolution of Philadelphia Soul.

 

What does R&B refer to in this context anyway ?

 

The "contemporary" is important in this context. I think it covers anything sung by a black person.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

If I started the MOWO (Music of white origin awards) would that make me a racist?

 

Does the fact that I think the MOBO awards are racist make me a racist?

 

I don't like a lot of MOBO i.e. rap, soul etc., does that make me a racist?

 

Personally, I detest racism, it has no place in today's society but the MOBO awards irritate me.

 

A good point but if you view MOBO as racist then your mindset MUST view MOWO as racist surely because you need to apply the same thought process, fairly, to both examples?

 

Anyway, you're not being racist, what you are highlighting is the unfairness. Or does the music industry not value white artists sufficiently to warrant a MOWO awards ceremony?

 

Just a question.

 

Obviously I'm coming from the opposite direction as I am a fan of black music primarily and find very little enjoyable in contemporary white music, although I like Roxy Music and ELP (because of their classical influenced albums). Then again both ELP & Roxy are hardly contemporary are they?

 

I'm not into Rap and the modern day R'n'B by the way.

[Saint-scooby]

I missed top of the pops again, its always on Thursday then Tomorrows world.

[Hatch]

If we had no MOBO awards then we wouldnt have Aleesha Dixon in tight dresses with pokey nipples.

 

So they can stay.

[mightysaints]

I find it a tad ironic that there is a 'Black Police officers association'.

Uproar would ensue if there were a 'White Police officers association' would there not ?

 

You just beat me to to this, been saying for years that there should not be a Police Officers association that is related to creed or colour

[Lighthouse]

If we had no MOBO awards then we wouldnt have Aleesha Dixon in tight dresses with pokey nipples.

 

So they can stay.

 

Rule 1

[The Cat]

The problem with the MOBO's is nothing to do with race or whatever, more the fact that it lacks any sort of credibility because they give the awards to complete dump like JLS and N Dubz.

[David]

No.

 

Classical

Folk

Country & Western

Bluegrass

Pop

 

If you're going to divide country, folk and blue grass up into separate genres then the amount of rock genres far outweigh any other. Pop music is colourless and derivative of soul and rock 'n' roll.

[JRM]

The problem with the MOBO's is nothing to do with race or whatever, more the fact that it lacks any sort of credibility because they give the awards to complete dump like JLS and N Dubz.

 

what do you call a fit bird with 2 cUUnts?

 

Ndubz

 

[Verbal]

Every f**king year. Without fail.

 

Yep. Funny and yet sad.

[angelman]

I've ****ged a black girl. Does that make me racist?

[Hamilton Saint]

If you're going to divide country, folk and blue grass up into separate genres then the amount of rock genres far outweigh any other. Pop music is colourless and derivative of soul and rock 'n' roll.

 

You don't think country and western, folk and bluegrass are distinct genres?

 

 

BTW, this suddenly reminds me of a heated discussion I once had with the manager of a music store who put all the folk, classical and pop singers like Frank Sinatra and Bing Crosby into one amorphous section called "Easy Listening". Can you imagine? Bartok and Shostakovich as Easy Listening!

 

And "Urban Contemporary"? Give me a break!

[Durleyfos]

Then why not call it the 'Ethnic Minority Awards'?

 

The Emas. Nice.

 

Or the ENEMA's

 

Evening (for)

National

Ethnic

Music

Awards

 

Why are all the judges on the X Factor white?

 

There's one to think about eh? eh?

 

And why no gay judges either eh? eh?

 

Oh come on, one of them is a closet gay.

 

I'm not going to say which one, though.

 

I'm sure it can be worked out...

[David]

You don't think country and western, folk and bluegrass are distinct genres?

 

No, I think they are. It's just that rock music has so many distinct genres that I think that backs up my claim that most music genres are of black origin, or at least partly black.

 

It seems like these days if a white artist sings a pop song, it's pop and if Alicia Dixon sings the same song it's R&B.

[RonManager]

MOWO

 

Music Of Wurzel Origin

 

[Special K]

Or the ENEMA's

 

Evening (for)

National

Ethnic

Music

Awards

 

 

 

 

I think it should be more inclusive, What about the Music Industry Night (for) General Excellence?

[Jones91]

Shouldn't swimming events be classed racist, as blanks can't swim.

 

(I think its something to do with their hair, poorer families and heavier bones)

[The Kraken]

Shouldn't swimming events be classed racist, as blanks can't swim.

 

(I think its something to do with their hair, poorer families and heavier bones)

 

Supermatch game; Blankety Blank chequebook and pen for the best answer.

[Jonnyboy]

what do you call a fit bird with 2 cUUnts?

 

Ndubz

 

 

nah, thats a dog with two dicks mate

[Jonnyboy]

what do you call a fit bird with 2 cUUnts?

 

Ndubz

 

 

nah, thats a dog with two dicks mate

[Lighthouse]

I think it should be more inclusive, What about the Music Industry Night (for) General Excellence?

 

I agree, they should just skip the whole black/white thing, it's all prejudice. Just one big award ceremony for all genres

 

Honouring

of

Reggae

Soul

Electro

Folk

Urban

Classical

Karaoke

Europop

Rap

[Lighthouse]

I think it should be more inclusive, What about the Music Industry Night (for) General Excellence?

 

I agree, they should just skip the whole black/white thing, it's all prejudice. Just one big award ceremony for all genres

 

Honouring

of

Reggae

Soul

Electro

Folk

Urban

Classical

Karaoke

Europop

Rap