Andy_Porter Posted 19 October, 2010 Share Posted 19 October, 2010 Getting up, getting ready, getting tools ready, starting the car, travelling, opening the door, having a quick chat, finding the boiler etc etc. I am being a bit pedantic but i get increasingly annoyed recently with customers telling me when i programme their jobs in that the wait is not acceptable as its only a 30 minute job etc. But you didn't answer my original question. What trade do you do mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 19 October, 2010 Author Share Posted 19 October, 2010 what? I think he is ripping the pee out of someone else on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 19 October, 2010 Share Posted 19 October, 2010 Getting up, getting ready, getting tools ready, starting the car, travelling, opening the door, having a quick chat, finding the boiler etc etc. I am being a bit pedantic but i get increasingly annoyed recently with customers telling me when i programme their jobs in that the wait is not acceptable as its only a 30 minute job etc. But you didn't answer my original question. tools were in car, my car started 1st time (for once) 2 mins up road, not chit chat, straight to boiler. Turn on 2 taps, lap up praise drive home via shop that i had to goto anyway, sit here talking to you all with a cold beer and a good deed done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 19 October, 2010 Share Posted 19 October, 2010 and no, no soapy titty **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 19 October, 2010 Share Posted 19 October, 2010 I think he is ripping the pee out of someone else on here. ahhh I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 19 October, 2010 Share Posted 19 October, 2010 What trade do you do mate? I'm a trainee major projects engineer for SSE but as my trainee management role i am running the electrical new connections desk. Though if you ask Dog i am a DIY sparky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 19 October, 2010 Share Posted 19 October, 2010 I'm sorry you choose to misunderstand. Do your blinkers need adjusting maybe? I have nothing against helping people out, nothing at all. However, here is a landlord who earns an income out of renting out his house. As a landlord he has a moral and legal responsibility for the welfare of his tenant. He shouldn't have to rely on the goodwill of others. After all, his income from the rent should cover maintenance and repair charges. It is a business he is running. Businesses have income and expenditure ergo so does he. I really don't understand the issue ? The tenant had an issue and he got it sorted ? It was a simple job that really wasn't worth paying some jobsworth an hourly fee plus call out (which gets to be extortionate at times) to get the simple job done. The job is done, the tenant happy as it was sorted quick, DrWho is happy as a. he hasn't had to rush back from wherever he lives and b. Didn't spend a hundred odd for some bloke to do a quick job that he would have probably fitted in on the way home. And Mike is happy to have helped and may get a pint or something out of it. It may have been different if he said, can someone pick my wife up from the hospital after she has given birth as i don't want to miss my round at the pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 19 October, 2010 Share Posted 19 October, 2010 I really don't understand the issue ? The tenant had an issue and he got it sorted ? It was a simple job that really wasn't worth paying some jobsworth an hourly fee plus call out (which gets to be extortionate at times) to get the simple job done. The job is done, the tenant happy as it was sorted quick, DrWho is happy as a. he hasn't had to rush back from wherever he lives and b. Didn't spend a hundred odd for some bloke to do a quick job that he would have probably fitted in on the way home. And Mike is happy to have helped and may get a pint or something out of it. It may have been different if he said, can someone pick my wife up from the hospital after she has given birth as i don't want to miss my round at the pub. I'll do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 October, 2010 Share Posted 19 October, 2010 Precisely smirking saint and any normal person understands it completely. He isn't relying on other people, simply asking if someone can make his life a little easier. I'm glad that most people on here have understood the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 19 October, 2010 Author Share Posted 19 October, 2010 Precisely smirking saint and any normal person understands it completely. He isn't relying on other people, simply asking if someone can make his life a little easier. I'm glad that most people on here have understood the situation. I would tell the whole story, but do not feel the need to justify my actions. I asked on here, I asked my sister and my brother-in-law. If someone could not help out today then I already had a company lined up to fix it tomorrow. I thought I would ask first just to see. It is not a business, I work full time in accounts as a credit manager, I rent out the property to a person on benefit's who is a single mum with children. I do not even cover the mortgage on the property let alone running repairs. I get messed around by the housing benefit with payments, and I rent up in Cambridge. I always make sure that my tenants are looked after and try and get ALL repairs done as soon as possible as that is my responsibility, and me and my wife have just been without heating for 3 weeks and we rent through an agency. IF I lived in Southampton or even a few miles away i would have gone round myself. This is why some people hire an agency to look after the property, but they charge stupid money for the silly little things that need doing and take a cut for nothing, so I paid them out of the contract with the tenant at a cost of around £800.00. Money is not the issue here at all really, but if someone is willing to help and there have been 3 or 4 people on here then why not?? No harm done and everyone is happy about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 19 October, 2010 Share Posted 19 October, 2010 I would tell the whole story, but do not feel the need to justify my actions. I asked on here, I asked my sister and my brother-in-law. If someone could not help out today then I already had a company lined up to fix it tomorrow. I thought I would ask first just to see. It is not a business, I work full time in accounts as a credit manager, I rent out the property to a person on benefit's who is a single mum with children. I do not even cover the mortgage on the property let alone running repairs. I get messed around by the housing benefit with payments, and I rent up in Cambridge. I always make sure that my tenants are looked after and try and get ALL repairs done as soon as possible as that is my responsibility, and me and my wife have just been without heating for 3 weeks and we rent through an agency. IF I lived in Southampton or even a few miles away i would have gone round myself. This is why some people hire an agency to look after the property, but they charge stupid money for the silly little things that need doing and take a cut for nothing, so I paid them out of the contract with the tenant at a cost of around £800.00. Money is not the issue here at all really, but if someone is willing to help and there have been 3 or 4 people on here then why not?? No harm done and everyone is happy about it! You should have gone through the council, i looked at letting my maisonette out a while ago. They employ a contract, i think they take it off your hands for 18 months or so but they offered me £750 tenant or no tenant and they insure that it will be in the same condition when you get it back. Pretty good deal i thought, but 18 months was a little too long for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 19 October, 2010 Share Posted 19 October, 2010 (edited) I'm sorry you choose to misunderstand. Do your blinkers need adjusting maybe? I have nothing against helping people out, nothing at all. However, here is a landlord who earns an income out of renting out his house. As a landlord he has a moral and legal responsibility for the welfare of his tenant. He shouldn't have to rely on the goodwill of others. After all, his income from the rent should cover maintenance and repair charges. It is a business he is running. Businesses have income and expenditure ergo so does he. FFS - seriously, it's turning a tap on dearie. I don't agree with the attitude that if he couldn't get someone to do it as a favour he would let the tenant wait until Friday - that is indeed reprehensible and a dereliction of responsibility - but there is nothing wrong with getting someone who is not a fully paid up professional to turn a tap on. EDIT: and it doesn't look as though he was planning on making them wait anyway. Edited 19 October, 2010 by benjii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 19 October, 2010 Author Share Posted 19 October, 2010 FFS - seriously, it's turning a tap on dearie. I don't agree with the attitude that if he couldn't get someone to do it as a favour he would let the tenant wait until Friday - that is indeed reprehensible and a dereliction of responsibility - but there is nothing wrong with getting someone who is not a fully paid up professional to turn a tap on. EDIT: and it doesn't look as though he was planning on making them wait anyway. Leaving them until Friday was never an option. That is when I am in Southampton and down for the game and the weekend. I have been in contact with her (the tenant) all day, and said that I was trying to find someone to come round. An engineer would not have been able to come round until Thursday anyways, but that is neither here or there, as all I needed was for someone to do the easy job, that 'anyone' can carry out, as told by a customer service repair person. My tenant was not happy doing it, and this I respected. She did say that if someone could not come out and the engineer could not come out until Thursday, she could go and stay at her mums. I told her IF it was not sorted tonight I would 100% get someone out tomorrow to make sure it was working. It got fixed but I had someone booked in for tomorrow but not through the offical boiler repair service, but would have been sorted within the 48 hour period that it needed to be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 19 October, 2010 Share Posted 19 October, 2010 Let me know when the grass needs mowing DW. I'll send my old goat around; lawn gets mown, goat gets fed, result. We used to rent a flat (to my daughter at the time (all above board of course) and I actually paid her to mow the lawn etc as it saved me doing it. I also had a de-pressurising boiler situation which turned out to be a split diaphragm after a few 'turn tap, close tap' fixes. Should*/could have cost me a small fortune but I decided to have a go myself and she was fine with the week or so that it eventually took me to sort. Can't imagine this would have been the case with a private tenant though and mrs h was not that impressed about our gk's sleeping in a cold house with no hot water, but i ponted out to her that when I was their age.......... * i am not a corgi person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 19 October, 2010 Share Posted 19 October, 2010 Leaving them until Friday was never an option. That is when I am in Southampton and down for the game and the weekend. I have been in contact with her (the tenant) all day, and said that I was trying to find someone to come round. An engineer would not have been able to come round until Thursday anyways, but that is neither here or there, as all I needed was for someone to do the easy job, that 'anyone' can carry out, as told by a customer service repair person. My tenant was not happy doing it, and this I respected. She did say that if someone could not come out and the engineer could not come out until Thursday, she could go and stay at her mums. I told her IF it was not sorted tonight I would 100% get someone out tomorrow to make sure it was working. It got fixed but I had someone booked in for tomorrow but not through the offical boiler repair service, but would have been sorted within the 48 hour period that it needed to be fixed. Fair play. Big society all round. Repsonsibility, duty, pragmatism and consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 20 October, 2010 Share Posted 20 October, 2010 I'm sorry you choose to misunderstand. Do your blinkers need adjusting maybe? I have nothing against helping people out, nothing at all. However, here is a landlord who earns an income out of renting out his house. As a landlord he has a moral and legal responsibility for the welfare of his tenant. He shouldn't have to rely on the goodwill of others. After all, his income from the rent should cover maintenance and repair charges. It is a business he is running. Businesses have income and expenditure ergo so does he. He didn't rely on anyone, he asked if someone would help him out. Someone was prepared to do it as fortuntately the majority of posters on here are sensible, helpful type, not cynical, mistrusting types. In fact i wouldn't be suprised if there is a pint in it for JustMike on saturday. And maybe you should seek out some local carpenters for your work; supporting the local economy and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 20 October, 2010 Share Posted 20 October, 2010 Hmm, a bit far out. Especially the politics bit, as my little bro is so far right he's off the scale But he does like the auditing chat as he and my dad used to do a lot of small building works for the NHS. We don't pay him for his time and vice versa when we visit each other at weekends (not very often because of Mr TF's shifts) but every man / woman is worth his / her price for the job. See, that's because I was brought up properly and taught to respect people and their worth. I was brought up to believe a friend in need, is a friend indeed. Not, a friend in need is worth £200 +VAT Anyway, I have only been pulling your leg, so will retire from this thread as I haven't got any valid contribution to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 20 October, 2010 Share Posted 20 October, 2010 and the fact there was a frost last night makes it all the more worthwhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 20 October, 2010 Share Posted 20 October, 2010 I'm sorry you choose to misunderstand. Do your blinkers need adjusting maybe? I have nothing against helping people out, nothing at all. However, here is a landlord who earns an income out of renting out his house. As a landlord he has a moral and legal responsibility for the welfare of his tenant. He shouldn't have to rely on the goodwill of others. After all, his income from the rent should cover maintenance and repair charges. It is a business he is running. Businesses have income and expenditure ergo so does he. "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel or envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill. So in your doctrinated socialist bubble you can only help people with less money than you, or help those that are better off for money. Would it not be better to be a bit flexible on the Socialist gospel of envy for a fellow Saints fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 20 October, 2010 Share Posted 20 October, 2010 I really don't understand the issue ? The tenant had an issue and he got it sorted ? It was a simple job that really wasn't worth paying some jobsworth an hourly fee plus call out (which gets to be extortionate at times) to get the simple job done. The job is done, the tenant happy as it was sorted quick, DrWho is happy as a. he hasn't had to rush back from wherever he lives and b. Didn't spend a hundred odd for some bloke to do a quick job that he would have probably fitted in on the way home. And Mike is happy to have helped and may get a pint or something out of it. It may have been different if he said, can someone pick my wife up from the hospital after she has given birth as i don't want to miss my round at the pub. I should pick your mrs up really, seeing as though it is my baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 20 October, 2010 Share Posted 20 October, 2010 will retire from this thread as i haven't got any valid contribution to make. ...doesn't usually stop ya.. ;-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 20 October, 2010 Share Posted 20 October, 2010 anyway, i have a prob with my boiler tonight (keeps going out) and would like to offer mrs b the opportunity to pop around and bleed my system, it's only a 5 minute job and i am willing to pay your taxi fare home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 October, 2010 Share Posted 20 October, 2010 I see BTF realised her error of judgement and has thus decided to run away. Labour all over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 21 October, 2010 Share Posted 21 October, 2010 Had a call today from the tenant a young lady saying that the boiler has broken, but it turns out that it just needs re-pressurising, which can be done by any Tom **** or Harry or anyone else really and an engineer is NOT needed. The problem is the tenant does not feel confident doing this, and I live in Cambridge. I was wondering if any of you kind gentlemen from the Southampton area could go and assist her? The instruction manual is at the property, and I have a copy that I can email to the person who can help. If you can help I will send the full address in Sholing, just PM me. I will sort the person out with a token gesture for their help. Cheers Kev do your own dirty work. That's why she pays you rent. ****ing landlords, all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Soze Posted 21 October, 2010 Share Posted 21 October, 2010 Fair play for doing it. What was the token gesture? Would expect a few quid at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 21 October, 2010 Share Posted 21 October, 2010 A sealed system will not just de-pressurise itself. I would suggest you stop being tight and get this done properly. that also occurred to me, in between pmsl at the rest of this thread plus, isnt there some red tape about landlords having to use corgi plumbers for any job involving a boiler, no matter how small? My bro in law lets out flats to students, I'm sure I remember him saying something to that effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 21 October, 2010 Share Posted 21 October, 2010 Fair play for doing it. What was the token gesture? Would expect a few quid at least. the offer of a few beers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 21 October, 2010 Share Posted 21 October, 2010 that also occurred to me, in between pmsl at the rest of this thread plus, isnt there some red tape about landlords having to use corgi plumbers for any job involving a boiler, no matter how small? My bro in law lets out flats to students, I'm sure I remember him saying something to that effect not for this as its not actually fitting anything. it was just a case of turning on tap A and tap B for about 5 secs to allow water through. Its even in the boilers manual as a DIY job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 21 October, 2010 Share Posted 21 October, 2010 do your own dirty work. That's why she pays you rent. ****ing landlords, all the same. long arms would be needed, he is in Cambridge and not down until Friday. So, would you leave the woman and her kids freezing until then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 21 October, 2010 Share Posted 21 October, 2010 I see BTF realised her error of judgement and has thus decided to run away. Labour all over lets just see how long it takes for everyone (Dune apart) to start getting on the backs of the Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 21 October, 2010 Share Posted 21 October, 2010 do i win an award for most posts in a row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 21 October, 2010 Share Posted 21 October, 2010 No you need 6 for that. Go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 21 October, 2010 Share Posted 21 October, 2010 long arms would be needed, he is in Cambridge and not down until Friday. So, would you leave the woman and her kids freezing until then? yeah, I would. ****ing tenants are all the same. Gimme gimme gimme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 21 October, 2010 Author Share Posted 21 October, 2010 yeah, I would. ****ing tenants are all the same. Gimme gimme gimme. So you do not like landlords or tenants? This thread has turned into something quite entertaining. I was expecting someone to say yes, and contact me and that would be it. I would have never thought it would cause so much friction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbury Posted 23 October, 2010 Share Posted 23 October, 2010 So, Mike, was she a boiler? Don't think we've cleared that one up yet. In my house I rent in Lancashire, I was forever re-pressurisng the boiler, which involved adopting an awkward position and messing about with a screwdriver (Nurse!!). Thankfully, the tenants haven't moaned about this yet, but probably will now that winter is coming up. It's entirely likely I'll be in the identical position (though Oz is a bit further than Cambridge), so would anyone like to throw their name in the ring for Good Samaritanship in Ramsbottom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 23 October, 2010 Share Posted 23 October, 2010 It is a good job that we can guarantee that no Saints fans are rapists. Wait, can't this board be seen by and then posted on anybody on the internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 23 October, 2010 Share Posted 23 October, 2010 If you are a landlord receiving rent from a tenant, surely it behoves you to pay someone to sort the problem out, rather than relying on someone to do it for free? Exactly. Happy to take the profit, less happy to meet your obligations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 24 October, 2010 Author Share Posted 24 October, 2010 Are people still babbling on about this without knowing all the facts? Thread over, someone lock it and put some on here out of their miseries!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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