Red Ed at PMQ's

[dune]

It should be a chuckle watching Davids geeky brother today.

[sunrise]

Who really cares? I've got better things to do with my time than to watch boring tripe like PMQ's

[dune]

Who really cares? I've got better things to do with my time than to watch boring tripe like PMQ's

 

Does it clash with Judge Judy?

[trousers]

What time? Used to be 12pm didn't it?

 

Edit: just read the time of the first post. Doh....

[dune]

To Sumarise:

 

Ed came across like a nerdy 6th former, had zero personality, and to cap it all I noticed he lisps.

[mickn]

Wow I'm really shocked you have nothing positive to say about him

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

To Sumarise:

 

Ed came across like a nerdy 6th former, had zero personality, and to cap it all I noticed he lisps.

 

You not noticed that before? As I said when elected to Labour leader, he's just the wrong side of that looking and sounding special line. Looks slightly monged.

[badgerx16]

To Sumarise:

 

and to cap it all I noticed he lisps.

Nah, you've got tinnitus.

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

To Sumarise:

 

Ed came across like a nerdy 6th former, had zero personality, and to cap it all I noticed he lisps.

 

Certainly a reasonable analysis of his performance if YOU say so. I'm going to watch it after I get home from work and I shall give you my partisan judgment on his performance as well. Deary me.

Edited 13 October, 2010 by Thorpe-le-Saint

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

To Sumarise:

 

Ed came across like a nerdy 6th former, had zero personality, and to cap it all I noticed he lisps.

 

To be fair he is not trying to win the vote of people like you.

[Joensuu]

For anyone interested, here's a somewhat juddery video of today's PMQ's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwyQWBbjR9U

 

I'm not sure Stanley is entirely fair on Ed. While he doesn't seem confident, and does have a minor stutter going on, the points he is making are sound, and Cameron is consistently refusing the answer the question (NB, Clegg squirming at Dave's lack of honesty). IMO 6/10 (a bit like Pardew, okay, but could do better).

 

DP, you undermine your own argument by using of the word 'mong'. It is offensive to people with Down's Syndrome, and if you take the term back to it's racial definition origins (now superseded), it is offensive to East Asians, and Native Americans.

Edited 13 October, 2010 by Joensuu

[sunrise]

Does it clash with Judge Judy?

 

Ha ha, very funny, I don't watch that either, in fact I don't watch much TV.

[Saintandy666]

Thought he did well. Had Cameron on the back foot; he just needs to admit there are discrepancies and errors in this policy.

[Gemmel]

To be fair he is not trying to win the vote of people like you.

 

Are you sure :lol::lol:

[SuperMikey]

He'll get slated for not having the charisma to lead the party in the way that Cameron or even David Miliband does, but he's a very sensible politician with some very good policies up his sleeve. Set a good example in these next few months and we could see a big swing in support to Labour as the Tories cuts are announced.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

For anyone interested, here's a somewhat juddery video of today's PMQ's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwyQWBbjR9U

 

I'm not sure Stanley is entirely fair on Ed. While he doesn't seem confident, and does have a minor stutter going on, the points he is making are sound, and Cameron is consistently refusing the answer the question (NB, Clegg squirming at Dave's lack of honesty). IMO 6/10 (a bit like Pardew, okay, but could do better).

 

DP, you undermine your own argument by using of the word 'mong'. It is offensive to people with Down's Syndrome, and if you take the term back to it's racial definition origins (now superseded), it is offensive to East Asians, and Native Americans.

 

To be fair I wasn't undermining any argument as it was an opinion. I also aired it to others I work with and they agreed he does sound and look a little that way. Perhaps I should have used 'Flid' or 'Joey Deacon'.

[dune]

Thought he did well. Had Cameron on the back foot.

 

ha ha ha. I think DC was a bit taken aback by the geek trying to go on the offensive, but i'm sure he found it amusing. Red Ed just doesn't have any charisma AT ALL so he's never ever going to win a duel at PMQ's..

[saintfully]

To be fair I wasn't undermining any argument as it was an opinion. I also aired it to others I work with and they agreed he does sound and look a little that way. Perhaps I should have used 'Flid' or 'Joey Deacon'.

 

Classy.

 

Are you trying to say he looks like someone with a non-specific disability? Please clarify because I'm not sure what people suffering from the effects of thalidomide have in common with Downs sufferers? Its a bit like me saying you sound like a pri.ck when what I really mean is you sound like a tw.at.

[dune]

Classy.

 

Are you trying to say he looks like someone with a non-specific disability? Please clarify because I'm not sure what people suffering from the effects of thalidomide have in common with Downs sufferers? Its a bit like me saying you sound like a pri.ck when what I really mean is you sound like a tw.at.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABJ98MbyPkg

 

There's clearly something wrong with him, even after ignoring the speech inpediment. I think he may suffer from autism.

[solentstars]

It should be a chuckle watching Davids geeky brother today.

 

yawn we had tory boy ed against left wing cameron

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Classy.

 

Are you trying to say he looks like someone with a non-specific disability? Please clarify because I'm not sure what people suffering from the effects of thalidomide have in common with Downs sufferers? Its a bit like me saying you sound like a pri.ck when what I really mean is you sound like a tw.at.

 

And I'd class both as an insult of some variety. Personally I just think he looks, and can sound, retarded. Personally if you lined me up in front of a group of people with disabilities I couldn't tell you who suffers from what disability. Sorry, but I don't research that type of thing.

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

There's clearly something wrong with him, even after ignoring the speech inpediment. I think he may suffer from autism.

 

A classic Stanley post.

[badgerx16]

A most predictable thread and opening post from the most predictable poster on the forum, and some equally predictable responses, especially from DC luvvies. I thought he did quite well for his first time up, and so did most of the media outlets I've heard reports from. And why does the fact he might have a slight speech impediment preclude him from high office or a bit of respect ?

[bridge too far]

A most predictable thread and opening post from the most predictable poster on the forum, and some equally predictable responses, especially from DC luvvies. I thought he did quite well for his first time up, and so did most of the media outlets I've heard reports from. And why does the fact he might have a slight speech impediment preclude him from high office or a bit of respect ?

 

Exactly - Winston Churchill had both a stutter and a lisp, apparently.

 

http://www.winstonchurchill.org/learn/myths/myths/he-stuttered

[saintfully]

And I'd class both as an insult of some variety. Personally I just think he looks, and can sound, retarded. Personally if you lined me up in front of a group of people with disabilities I couldn't tell you who suffers from what disability. Sorry, but I don't research that type of thing.

 

Could you tell the difference between a soldier whose had his legs blown off and a soldier whose been blinded by shrapnel? How about someone without two brain cells to rub together and a civilised human being?

[Jonnyboy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABJ98MbyPkg

 

There's clearly something wrong with him, even after ignoring the speech inpediment. I think he may suffer from autism.

 

what do you know about autism

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Could you tell the difference between a soldier whose had his legs blown off and a soldier whose been blinded by shrapnel? How about someone without two brain cells to rub together and a civilised human being?

 

Question 1

 

 

 

Question 2

 

 

 

 

What's your point?

[badgerx16]

Question 1

 

 

 

Question 2

 

 

 

 

What's your point?

 

 

What's yours ?

Edited 13 October, 2010 by badgerx16

[benjii]

[scotty]

I only heard it on the radio, but he did come across very badly indeed imho. Not jutht the lithp, but that godawful glottal stop and the stuttering. Although he attacked a reasonable target on the child benefits affecting single parents unfairly, it was such an open goal that he ought to have come out of that better, plus he just sounded such a prat that it didnt really work. I cant see him lasting long myself.

[Jonnyboy]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/blogs/talking_politics/terminator-miliband-ruins-cameron-p138906.html

[scotty]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/blogs/talking_politics/terminator-miliband-ruins-cameron-p138906.html

 

I must have been listening to a different PMQs then, the one I heard was of ed miliband getting a proper reaming.

[benjii]

Just saw the "highlights" on the Beeb. Ed does come across as a bit of a gormo. Reminds me of when a geek at school would get angry and blurt something out then immediately look sheepish and nervous.

[Verbal]

How deeply surprising that the cap-doffing axe-grinders on here should think Ed failed. According to ITV News, the consensus among the political commentators at Westminster was that he did well. Having seen the exchange, I agree - he made Cameron look like the lying, slimy creep he is. (Just an objective view.)

[badgerx16]

How deeply surprising that the cap-doffing axe-grinders on here should think Ed failed. According to ITV News, the consensus among the political commentators at Westminster was that he did well. Having seen the exchange, I agree - he made Cameron look like the lying, slimy creep he is. (Just an objective view.)

Pretty much echoes the Radio 4 commentator I heard. But what do they know ?

[aintforever]

They obviously chose the wrong brother. Davids done the right thing and put as much distance between that baffoon and him as possible.

[badgerx16]

They obviously chose the wrong brother. David's done the right thing and put as much distance between that baffoon and himself as possible.

If you are going to call somebody a 'buffoon' try not to look like one yourself

[OldNick]

How deeply surprising that the cap-doffing axe-grinders on here should think Ed failed. According to ITV News, the consensus among the political commentators at Westminster was that he did well. Having seen the exchange, I agree - he made Cameron look like the lying, slimy creep he is. (Just an objective view.)

 

but it doesn't matter what the political commentators think, but how the man in the street does. He was put down by DC in his reply and EM does not seem to have the wit to counter.

His brother does.

As for labour improving their ratings when the cuts come, well that's a feaqther in his cap Bin Laden would if he led the labour party when that bad news comes around.

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

Not been a Labour supporter for a long time but have to say: Ed 1 Dave 0. The child benefit issue gave him a bit of an open goal but he handled himself well and put Dave in his place when he told him that he was the one who asked the questions. I'm not sure if he'll be able to get the better of Dave on a regular basis but only a dyed in the wool Tory would say that Dave got the better of it yesterday.

[rooney]

He certainly won the first exchange and all the political commentators seemed to agree. Must be a worry for the Tories now especially

as the PM seems to be going back on his pre-election promises.

[Joensuu]

Isn't it strange how people to the right of centre are so quick to start being offensive, slanderous, and even unintentionally* racist when it fits their purpose.

 

* inserted to generously give DP the benefit of the doubt.

[Verbal]

but it doesn't matter what the political commentators think, but how the man in the street does. He was put down by DC in his reply and EM does not seem to have the wit to counter.

His brother does.

As for labour improving their ratings when the cuts come, well that's a feaqther in his cap Bin Laden would if he led the labour party when that bad news comes around.

 

And where might this non-newspaper reading man on the street be, Nick?

 

As for David v Ed, I just don't know yet, although I do know that Ed isn't about to be horribly implicated in some unfortunate decisions during the 'war on terror'.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Isn't it strange how people to the right of centre are so quick to start being offensive, slanderous, and even unintentionally* racist when it fits their purpose.

 

* inserted to generously give DP the benefit of the doubt.

 

Well thank you, it was unintentional!!

[benjii]

Isn't it strange how people to the right of centre are so quick to start being offensive, slanderous, and even unintentionally* racist when it fits their purpose.

 

* inserted to generously give DP the benefit of the doubt.

 

 

Yeah, left leaning parties and folk would never do that. They certainly wouldn't employ legions of spin doctors to brief against people and discredit them. Never.

[thefunkygibbons]

Reality is that it is a television age

 

Despite obvious intelligence, William Hague failed because of his presentation as did IDS, although he is now got a serious portfoilio within Government

 

I do think that Red Ed will be a disaster for Labour and that it will not be too long before the whispering starts

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

How is it nearly ten past five and NO-ONE has mentioned 'Trendy Dave's' meeting with Arnie? See Dune, 'Trendy Dave' is just as 'clueless' in the media stakes...

[dune]

but it doesn't matter what the political commentators think, but how the man in the street does. He was put down by DC in his reply and EM does not seem to have the wit to counter.

His brother does.

 

Spot on. Whatever your views of Tony Blair he was an astute politician and could play a crowd. Red Ed may well have his MP's enthralled (obviously they secretly recognise he's a geek and liability - hence them wanting his brother), and the political commentators may well have thought what he said was well said, but the problem is that he's got no personality at all so he'll never be able to come accross as jovial or tell a joke that doesn't make him look an even bigger div than he clearly is - in this day and age that means he's not up for the job and he won't get the votes. We have a lot to thank Bob Crow and his comrades for.

[Fuengirola Saint]

Spot on. Whatever your views of Tony Blair he was an astute politician and could play a crowd. Red Ed may well have his MP's enthralled (obviously they secretly recognise he's a geek and liability - hence them wanting his brother), and the political commentators may well have thought what he said was well said, but the problem is that he's got no personality at all so he'll never be able to come accross as jovial or tell a joke that doesn't make him look an even bigger div than he clearly is - in this day and age that means he's not up for the job and he won't get the votes. We have a lot to thank Bob Crow and his comrades for.

 

Bob Crow's union wouldn't have voted as they are not affiliated to the Labour Party, you really must do better

[dune]

Bob Crow's union wouldn't have voted as they are not affiliated to the Labour Party, you really must do better

 

Fair enough. The rest of my post was spot on though wasn't it, and it's a fact that the only reason Davids brother got in was the unions.

[badgerx16]

Fair enough. The rest of my post was spot on though wasn't it, and it's a fact that the only reason Davids brother got in was the unions.

As pointed out previously on another thread, he still got a higher percentage of Labour MPs voting for him than DC got of the Tory members in his party leadership poll, in fact he got 122 votes from the 262 MPs & MEPs. And I am not sure the ONLY reason he got in was the union vote, as they only represent 33% of the possible total. Before you go off on one of your evening rants, try appraising yourself of the facts, ( for a change ).