Pardew Who ?

[dune]

I'd have sacked Pardew last season. Crap manager with a massive ego. Good riddance.

[alpine_saint]

Precisely. Does anyone really think we would have gone from spanking Rovers to being turned over and having our tummies tickled in a week had he stayed?

 

 

Erm yes, quite possibly. We beat Norwich 2-0 away then drew 0-0 with Wycombe under Pardew.

 

It's immaterial but I just wish people would give Pardew credit. When he arrived we were the country's WORST football team on games won. WORST.

 

And what he just turned that around and gave us a winning mentality (becoming the 7th BEST manager in the country) by doing feck all did he?

 

 

He had a lot of help. Like the financial muscle of a Premier league club.

[alpine_saint]

Given that Pardew identified the need for a new CM, replacement for Antonio, and CF backup for Lambert all throughout the summer, my opinion would be that internal politics played their part and why the whole club, not just the management team, should be held to account for our lacklustre start to the season.

 

The only criticism I have of Cortese is that he didnt have the courage of his convictions to fire him at the beginning of the summer and give us the pre-season to prepare under the new manager. And I blame our celeb ex-players and moaning minnie fans for that as much as him.

[The Kraken]

He had a lot of help. Like the financial muscle of a Premier league club.

 

And Adkins is also benefitting from that financial muscle; in terms of the players he has on the books already, and that he has already brought in 2 loan players from the division above. I also fully expect the cheque book will be open for him in the new year.

 

Pardew did a very good job here last season, despite what the nay sayers might try and claim. Adkins in turn has got off to a good start and also looks capable of taking us to the next level. Time will tell, but in my eyes we have replaced one very capable manager with another very capable manager.

[The Kraken]

The only criticism I have of Cortese is that he didnt have the courage of his convictions to fire him at the beginning of the summer and give us the pre-season to prepare under the new manager. And I blame our celeb ex-players and moaning minnie fans for that as much as him.

 

In hindsight you're right, and in hindsight we'd all hope for that so that NA could have had a pre-season to prepare the players in his mould.

 

That said, the fans or ex-players cannot be blamed at all. Cortese is well known to be a very determined man and is not influenced by "fan power" or the opinions of former players here. Cortese is his own man and while he will shoulder the plaudits for bringing in Adkins he will also shoulder some blame for the way it happened.

[The Cat]

League position similar, but that's where it ends.

 

Our playing style is now so much better, as is our defence. Team morale is noticeably improved and also we are now managed by a bloke with much less arrogance.

[Noodles34]

I'm sorry noodles, but I think that there view is just as valid as ours. And I have agreed with you on many an issue, more than them. But if you think their question inane and not worthy of reply then just don't reply. no need to get personal.

 

fair point, but it just annoys me when this guy (and we all know his agenda in respect of AP) comes on and throws it in for the reaction, he doesn't give a toss about the replies in favour of AP as above shows, sometimes you wonder when people are going to let things go, they carry this baggage around on this forum and its weighing them down, they need to dump it and move on. And your point about me not replying is valid TBF, shouldn't get involved in something that does not concern me, but I am not getting personal about Alpine Saint, just the facts, he is someone who doesn't even go to games and yet dares to patronise, ridicule and abuse other members (his fave word "mong", which in its real context is deeply disturbing, as much as racism and homophobia, unless he is suggesting that people from Outer Mongolia are stupid, which I am sure he is not), just my view really.

[Bucks Saint]

So which of the games would we have won under him in your opinion and why didn't he win those home games against Plymouth and Leyton Orient? He didn't beat Swindon last season in either match, so would he have managed it this season? And as I already pointed out above, you reckon that not having Lallana and Barnard available to him would have made no difference?

 

I dont know. Very hard to give facts for something that did not actually happen. But I believe, in my opinion, that we would have probably, in my view, not lost as many matches as we have actually done so far. I think that it is a fact that the OP asked "does anybody really think". Well, I do. In my view

[JustMike]

Didn't we destroy Tranmere, who in turn beat Rovers, under our Nige?

 

yes we did but who's to say we wouldnt have under AP. I also think we would have had more points out of the games with no manager but again, we will never know.

 

I am pleased with how we have been playing under NA and am looking forward to the next game.

[Wes Tender]

I dont know. Very hard to give facts for something that did not actually happen. But I believe, in my opinion, that we would have probably, in my view, not lost as many matches as we have actually done so far. I think that it is a fact that the OP asked "does anybody really think". Well, I do. In my view

 

Fair enough. I think that Pardew might have done better than Wilkins, but no better than Adkins. I also believe that the style of play under Adkins is not only more attractive than under Pardew, but could also prove to be more effective in this division. We'll have to wait and see.

Edited 13 October, 2010 by Wes Tender

[Toadhall Saint]

Really can't tell - think we would get promoted with either. I suppose its the manner in which we get promotion?

[NickG]

Happy with Adkins... Was happy with Pardew...

I for will always be grateful to Pardew for a great day out at Wembley and for restoring the pride in this club....

I won't be joining in the "Slag off Pardew for thing we don't know are true or not" brigade...

 

agree. Think we would have been higher if Pardew had stayed, as we would not have had the bad run. Whether we would be doing as well now, how knows.

 

Very impressed with what I have seen so far from Adkins and he may well turn out the better option.

[buctootim]

Pardew obviously had his strengths, but Adkins is a more 'complete' manager imo.

[Bucks Saint]

Pardew obviously had his strengths, but Adkins is a more 'complete' manager imo.

 

You may well be right but I think the only area that concerns me (at this very early stage) is whether Adkins can attract decent signings. Pardew did this very well - how much of it was down to the Marcus cash on offer and the appeal of Saints in L1 remains to be seen. May be nothing to worry about

[COMEONYOUREDS]

Its about time to accept we will not be promoted

[Kingsbridge Saint]

Shocking pre season did for Pardew - resulted in a terrible start. Players not ready and no real tactical direction it seemed. Surprised he was sacked as I felt he could have turned it around. Adkins doing fine at the moment. Huddersfield will be a challenge though. A defeat would be a set back and push us firmly back into the bottom half of Division 3.

[PokingFun]

I am amused by the assumption that a flattering result against a dire Bristol Rovers side is evidence that the previous manager could have put together such a good run so soon as the new manager has.

 

As I said a couple of weeks ago, if Pardew had been fired before the Bristol Rovers game, no-one would give a sh*t he has gone.

 

I would suggest the sustained good form of last season is more than enough evidence that Pardew was capable of doing that. I think Adkins is doing well, but it is too early to say whether he can achieve the 2 points per game we will need on average to achieve promotion. I think the signs look very good but then I still felt we were not far away under Pardew and had we had some fortune in the first few games we would have been thereabouts as we have been solid defensively all season and it was a matter of time before our forwards started scoring.

 

As for saying before Bristol Rovers no one would have cared if Pardew had gone, I really think you are way off the mark with that comment. Most Saints fans I have ever spoken to (and many do not frequent this site and are intelligent guys) have said they were happy to have Pardew at the helm. I was in that camp as well but think NA is also doing well. What will you say if NA draws the next two I wonder?

[Wes Tender]

You may well be right but I think the only area that concerns me (at this very early stage) is whether Adkins can attract decent signings. Pardew did this very well - how much of it was down to the Marcus cash on offer and the appeal of Saints in L1 remains to be seen. May be nothing to worry about

 

Credit where it is due, Pardew made some good signings, so is a decent judge of horse flesh as it were. However, he also had a big purse available to enable him to pick and choose the very best. And yet Adkins had managed to get players who proved capable of promotion to the division above us on a shoestring.

[Turkish]

Pardew obviously had his strengths, but Adkins is a more 'complete' manager imo.

 

how can you say that after 6 games?

[saintscottofthenortham]

To Alan,

Loved Wembley. Thanks for getting us some decent players with your reputation. Thanks for some of the results you got us, but unfortunatly there were far too many unacceptable results. I wouldn't have minded had you have had the tactical ability to have even tried to change things, but you didn't/couldn't. I highly appreciate your signing of Rickie lambert, but with your relentless tactics I have had to take up physio on my stiff neck (the invoice is in the post, I anticipate your reply).

In case you havn't caught any of it yet, come along and have a watch of us play, we have suddenly become a seriously strong looking outfit who instead of bypassing the likes of Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Hammond & Lallana with route one HOOFS up to Rickie's nugget, we now use the afformentioned players superb playing skills and get the football on the purpose built surface. It's highly entertaining and I now feel like I am getting my money's worth.

I would like to be able to say I hope to see you back with a club at SMS one day, but to be honest, I don't like your style... so don't rush yourself.

 

Kind Regards,

SSOTN.

[doggface]

No one on here KNOWS exactly why pards was sacked, so all these comments are based on pure assumptions.

[captainchris]

would we have been better off with Pardew? Who knows? who cares?

 

what I can say though is that now we play the best football that I have seen in a long, long time from a Southampton team. We play quick, possesion football which is great to watch and is winning us games. Under Pardew we did ok but let's be honest the football was absolutely turgid. Now when KD has the ball the centre backs drop off, the full backs go wide and we start to fizz the ball about whereas with Pardew he would wait an age for everybody to push up and then hoof it up to Ricky. Amen to that!!!

 

This is so accurate. Amen to kick and rush Pardew tactics and no plan B. Come to that, hardly a plan A was there!

We played more football in that match Saturday that in a year under Pardew.

[captainchris]

To Alan,

Loved Wembley. Thanks for getting us some decent players with your reputation. Thanks for some of the results you got us, but unfortunatly there were far too many unacceptable results. I wouldn't have minded had you have had the tactical ability to have even tried to change things, but you didn't/couldn't. I highly appreciate your signing of Rickie lambert, but with your relentless tactics I have had to take up physio on my stiff neck (the invoice is in the post, I anticipate your reply).

In case you havn't caught any of it yet, come along and have a watch of us play, we have suddenly become a seriously strong looking outfit who instead of bypassing the likes of Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Hammond & Lallana with route one HOOFS up to Rickie's nugget, we now use the afformentioned players superb playing skills and get the football on the purpose built surface. It's highly entertaining and I now feel like I am getting my money's worth.

I would like to be able to say I hope to see you back with a club at SMS one day, but to be honest, I don't like your style... so don't rush yourself.

 

Kind Regards,

SSOTN.

 

Considered accuracy.............................

[Clifford Nelson]

I was pleased last season that we had the past behind us and that we were winning games, but the longer the season carried on, ther more troubled I became about the style of football we were playing, and that at times we were falling on comparatively simple hurdles, when three points would have made a real difference. This reminded me of Saints through the years, and one of our most unattractive sides: If there was ever a striker who hadn't scored for twenty outings they were sure to score against us; an easy draw in any cup was always a loss; etc. It just seemed that increasingly our steamroller tactic wasn't always working. It wasn't very attractive to watch either.

 

It was alarming, but not surprising, when pre-season looked awful and equally the start of the season. Game after game I couldn't see anything which attempted to change things on the pitch, no tactics, no change of formation, no change of players. It certainly appeared to me that this was the way AP wanted to play the game. He actually dispensed with the flowing football we played for a while when Lambert was the only striker in the club, because it wasn't what he wanted to see. That the long balls to Lambert happened to have effect against Bristol wasn't too surprising. It was going to work sometimes, surely.

 

I really didn't want AP to fail, but the scenario which was playing out over many weeks was not encouraging, and when the axe fell, I felt relieved.

 

I am perplexed that there are posters here, who don't see the difference between how we used to play, and the way we play now. I am delighted with the passing style of football and apart from winning games, the football is entertaining me. I can't say that I had spent any time thinking about Adkins before, but he has got my entire support for what he is trying to create. The change was absolutely necessary from a football point of view. Whatever else was going on I know as little about as most others.

[Wes Tender]

how can you say that after 6 games?

 

It was an opinion and one which I agree with, along with others who have also expressed their preference to the style of play from Adkins. But as Adkins is also better qualified by education and other qualifications than Pardew, with employment as a physio and having knowledge of motivational techniques, then it is a fair enough statement to make IMO.

[Weston Saint]

I was pleased last season that we had the past behind us and that we were winning games, but the longer the season carried on, ther more troubled I became about the style of football we were playing, and that at times we were falling on comparatively simple hurdles, when three points would have made a real difference. This reminded me of Saints through the years, and one of our most unattractive sides: If there was ever a striker who hadn't scored for twenty outings they were sure to score against us; an easy draw in any cup was always a loss; etc. It just seemed that increasingly our steamroller tactic wasn't always working. It wasn't very attractive to watch either.

 

It was alarming, but not surprising, when pre-season looked awful and equally the start of the season. Game after game I couldn't see anything which attempted to change things on the pitch, no tactics, no change of formation, no change of players. It certainly appeared to me that this was the way AP wanted to play the game. He actually dispensed with the flowing football we played for a while when Lambert was the only striker in the club, because it wasn't what he wanted to see. That the long balls to Lambert happened to have effect against Bristol wasn't too surprising. It was going to work sometimes, surely.

 

I really didn't want AP to fail, but the scenario which was playing out over many weeks was not encouraging, and when the axe fell, I felt relieved.

 

I am perplexed that there are posters here, who don't see the difference between how we used to play, and the way we play now. I am delighted with the passing style of football and apart from winning games, the football is entertaining me. I can't say that I had spent any time thinking about Adkins before, but he has got my entire support for what he is trying to create. The change was absolutely necessary from a football point of view. Whatever else was going on I know as little about as most others.

I share every part of this opinion.

[Turkish]

It was an opinion and one which I agree with, along with others who have also expressed their preference to the style of play from Adkins. But as Adkins is also better qualified by education and other qualifications than Pardew, with employment as a physio and having knowledge of motivational techniques, then it is a fair enough statement to make IMO.

 

Adkins is better qualifed academically than Alex Ferguson, does that make him a better manager than him? From what i have seen of Adkins he does seem to be a good manager, the team are playing well and attractive football, but he has only been our manager for 6 games, no time to judge at all.

[Bearsy]

Hi everyone,

 

The thread title doesn't make sense, it should be "Alan who?"

 

Regards

 

Bearsy

[saintscottofthenortham]

Adkins is better qualifed academically than Alex Ferguson, does that make him a better manager than him? From what i have seen of Adkins he does seem to be a good manager, the team are playing well and attractive football, but he has only been our manager for 6 games, no time to judge at all.

 

B*ll*cks. It is enough to judge him by, because he has made a near on instant impact. Lot's on here need to accept that all was not right under AP. We were under performing and considering how much AP banged on about how he had no pre-season last year, well... i'd have thought he would have made the most of the one he had, but he didn't. The players were unfit, unprepared and it wasn't good enough.

 

Too many people seem to be blindsighted by the fact that we put 4 goals past a truly horrific side at the Memorial. The fact still remained we were not good enough, we were playing a brand of football that the Chairman does not want us tainted with, so he went. Good job too as far as i'm concerned.

[SNSUN]

Irrespective of how we could've fared under Pards, I get the feeling we're in safe hands now. Life as a Saints fan since the turn of the century is full of whatifs, most are too painful to think about.

[The Kraken]

Too many people seem to be blindsighted by the fact that we put 4 goals past a truly horrific side at the Memorial. The fact still remained we were not good enough, we were playing a brand of football that the Chairman does not want us tainted with, so he went. Good job too as far as i'm concerned.

 

Another case of double standards?

 

Why does the 4-0 result against Bristol not count? Or the 2-0 cup win against Bournemouth? Or the good performance against Bolton? Yet a 2-0 win against a truly horrific side in Tranmere does appear on your radar. Yet apparently a 1-1 draw against Yeovil doesn't, and neither does a 0-0 home draw against Colchester. Very odd.

 

I'm happy that Adkins is here, and he has made a good start, no doubt. The game on Saturday was 100% better to watch than anything I saw last season. But lets not carried away and portray Pardew as the anti-christ.

 

By the way, your last sentence brings up a conundrum. If the chairman truly didn't want us tainted with "that sort of football" then why wait so long to make the change?

[hasper57saint]

Ain't I glad I only get three posts a day (which for some, in my opinion,appear quite adequate on this forum at times!) Now because I am unable to stimulate another load of absolute purile speculation as to what 'might have been' rather than 'what is now and hopefully, for a very long time under Nigel Adkins' I'll carry on being an STH and support the Saints irrespective of the Manager.

Nuff Said!

[Appy]

I thought everyone had moved on from Pardew, he did ok here, not great, lost too many games we shouldn't have.

 

But i will always be grateful to him, but we have Adkins now, this thread really is pointless.

[Turkish]

B*ll*cks. It is enough to judge him by, because he has made a near on instant impact. Lot's on here need to accept that all was not right under AP. We were under performing and considering how much AP banged on about how he had no pre-season last year, well... i'd have thought he would have made the most of the one he had, but he didn't. The players were unfit, unprepared and it wasn't good enough.

 

Too many people seem to be blindsighted by the fact that we put 4 goals past a truly horrific side at the Memorial. The fact still remained we were not good enough, we were playing a brand of football that the Chairman does not want us tainted with, so he went. Good job too as far as i'm concerned.

 

I am neither agreeing or disagreeing if Pardew should have been sacked, we are where we are. IMO NA is doing a good job so far and long may it continue, he has made an instant impact, but then a lot managers experience a honeymoon period where things go well for a time. Alan Perin at the skates, Juande Ramos at Spurs all had great starts but are regard as up there with the worst managers in their clubs history. To say NA is a roaring success and the Jesus Christ of football management after 4 weeks is foolish.

[doddisalegend]

I thought everyone had moved on from Pardew, he did ok here, not great, lost too many games we shouldn't have.

 

But i will always be grateful to him, but we have Adkins now, this thread really is pointless.

 

He lost seven games all of last season and two this season (all competitions) how is that losing too many games.If you said drew you might have a point.

[buctootim]

how can you say that after 6 games?

 

Im not basing that just on what Adkins has done here, which is a promising start, no more, but on their careers over the past 5 years. Adkins seems tactically and motivationally strong - getting his players to overachieve. That would be a huge turnaround for Saints who have underachieved as a group for 5 years or more.

[Turkish]

Im not basing that just on what Adkins has done here, which is a promising start, no more, but on their careers over the past 5 years. Adkins seems tactically and motivationally strong - getting his players to overachieve. That would be a huge turnaround for Saints who have underachieved as a group for 5 years or more.

 

but you could say the same about Pardew, took a team that had underperformed for 5 years, built a new team won a cup, decent FA Cup run would have got play off but or a 10 point handicap whilst at Saints that in the circumstances is a succesful season. You could argue he overachieved at West Ham with a cup final and 8th place finish and got them and Reading promoted. I think and hope Adkins is a sucess but there are no guarentees, just look at Strachan at Middlesborough. It's a good start, but if anyone thinks, like saintscottofnortham that he can be judged as a success after 6 games then it is foolhardy.

[buctootim]

Im not knocking Pardew, he did a fair to good job, but what he achieved at Saints has to be put into context. He had huge resources for Lg1, was paid highly himself and had operated at a much higher level than his fellow Lg1 managers. I just didnt see much evidence of enough 'added value' from him. I think many competent managers could have achieved what he did. Adkins by contrast really seems to bring something extra, so far.

[doddisalegend]

Im not knocking Pardew, he did a fair to good job, but what he achieved at Saints has to be put into context. He had huge resources for Lg1, was paid highly himself and had operated at a much higher level than his fellow Lg1 managers. I just didnt see much evidence of enough 'added value' from him. I think many competent managers could have achieved what he did. Adkins by contrast really seems to bring something extra, so far.

 

Surely all those things ring true for Nigel too? with the possible exception of number three although Nigel has championship experience. It's not much of an arguement to say look at all the advantages Alan had when Nigel has all the same advantages.

[SNSUN]

My biggest worry with Pardew leaving, is that nearly every one of his signings was, or is, a hit. Replacing a manager with that statistic would always prove difficult, but I must say, whilst Adkins hasn't had a transfer window to do anything in, he has come in, seen our weak spots, and tried to strengthen them. We don't know what the Reading lad is like, but we did need a striker and now we have one. I look forward to seeing what Adkins can do in the transfer window, making Guly and Chaplow's loans permanent (if they are loans of course...) would be terrific.

[JustMike]

I am amused by the assumption that a flattering result against a dire Bristol Rovers side is evidence that the previous manager could have put together such a good run so soon as the new manager has.

 

As I said a couple of weeks ago, if Pardew had been fired before the Bristol Rovers game, no-one would give a sh*t he has gone.

 

why are you amused? Yes, the previous manager could well have put together a good run, why not, he has done it before. Bit harsh having a view in the negative when there is no way to back it up. We will never know what result we would have had in any of the games had AP still been in charge. How long i wonder will you give NA if we start dropping points.

[fareham saint phil]

I never had an axe to grind with Pardew, thought we were going in the right direction, BUT he's gone now and I'm liking what i see of NA, and I'm thankful the change happened early enough in the season not to effect us as much as it could have. No one will ever know if we would have been better off under Pardew but things are starting to look rosey again, so looking forward to games now, not dreading them.

[saintscottofthenortham]

why are you amused? Yes, the previous manager could well have put together a good run, why not, he has done it before. Bit harsh having a view in the negative when there is no way to back it up. We will never know what result we would have had in any of the games had AP still been in charge. How long i wonder will you give NA if we start dropping points.

 

I reckon 1/10th of the time they would have given a tactically inept big name.

 

I didn't rate him when he was here, so I'm not slagging him just because he has been sacked. And neither am I beating myself off over Adkins just because of what he has done in these few games. A few others have mentioned it, but from the day I watched Scunny hit us out of the park at SMS (Despite us somehow winning 1-0) I have been an admirer of NA's. And after watching a performance that matched that of what Scunny put in against us a few years back, I think that is a safe pointer as to what we have to come.

[sfc4prem]

In regards to an earlier post. I was at the Bristol Rovers match, and if I'm honest, we didn't actually play that well. I'm not going to lie just to spite Pardew, because he did well last season after the points deduction (even though he had no plan b and never talked about creating one, instead saying he would buy a Rickie Lambert cover-player (which he didn't)). We weren't anything special that day, and if Rovers weren't so poor we may not have scored 4 and would've probably conceded.

 

Pardew's style of play was frustrating to watch, and though it got us plenty of goals, it also saw us lose 3-1 at home to Brighton, concede 3 at home to Bristol Rovers, and concede 2 at home to Hartlepool. I barely remember games in which we didn't concede. Our defensive leaks have already seemingly been plugged by Adkins.

 

I feel we have a real gem on our hands with Adkins. He seems passionate and I think suits us better than a big-ego (that used to manage West Ham, didn't you know?). I think we're going places under Nige, and in a much more watchable way than we might have under Pards.

[The9]

Even taking into account the "caretaking" of Wilkins, does anybody really think we would have been better off if Pardew were still here, after 11 games ??

 

Yes. But we'll never know, so it's pointless discussing it.

[SNSUN]

Yes. But we'll never know, so it's pointless discussing it.

 

Exactly. Just like every hypothetical question, no-one really knows. Pardew could have flown of the handle one day and broken Lamberts leg. Who knows. Enjoy the now, as the Fosters bloke say.

[doddisalegend]

You don't need to bother yourself, as I do that anyway. Take my other post on this thread, for example.

 

 

 

It is a fact that we lost three matches after he left, but what is NOT a fact is that Pardew would have won those matches for us. Do you see the distinction? Therefore, you cannot say for a fact "The fann(y)ing around with managers at the start of the season has cost us a lot of points", because you do not know for sure whether Pardew would have won those matches or not. Do you?

 

Wow westie you really are a top class internet warrior. Just for your sake I've now added a disclaimer to my location so hopefully when ever I post you'll know it's just my opinion and you won't burst a blood vessel.

[Saint_lambden]

Pardew's gone , it doesn't matter what we think he could have done - Adkins is in charge now.

[up and away]

Precisely. Does anyone really think we would have gone from spanking Rovers to being turned over and having our tummies tickled in a week had he stayed?

 

It's immaterial but I just wish people would give Pardew credit. When he arrived we were the country's WORST football team on games won. WORST.

 

And what he just turned that around and gave us a winning mentality (becoming the 7th BEST manager in the country) by doing feck all did he?

 

Sometimes this forum resembles the mob in Rome. Devoid of intelligent debate, reason and credibility. And worst of all, devoid of humility and gratitude.

 

We played some excellent football under Pardew, but there was always that underlying weakness that would always cost us. It's too early to say that Adkins will do the business, but it looks very much the case. I heard Pardew state so many times exactly the same things as Adkins, but only Adkins in a very short space of time has had the wherewithal to actually do it. It was totally frustrating to see Pardew regularly repeat the same mistakes over and over. At least under Adkins you can see these problems being solved. What Adkins has done is given the team a sound defensive base, something that continually eluded Pardew consistently. The team is now developing attacking wise from that sound defensive base, capable of keeping it's shape and not gifting the opposition.

 

I don't know what happened to Pardew in the close season, but no one looked like they gave a rat's arse when the came back, unbelieveable! I would have expected Pardew to make the play off's this season, possibly an automatic. I expect Adkins to make it automatic going by the progress we have made, could not be happier. Adkins looks the real deal, Pardew just a possible.

[teacher]

Who cares about Pardew now? He's gone - get over it! I'm so bored of seeing pointless threads on this forum, why can't people look to the future? This is a prime example as to why Saintsweb forum has gone drastically down hill over the last 3 months - What's next - we have already had the "What good things did Lowe do" thread, Why don't we start a "Branfoot was a football genius" thread or maybe "What if we kept all our players over the last 10 years where would we be"?

 

It's all history now can we please look to the future, get behind Adkins and the team and forget about what has happend in the past.

 

End of Rant