I hate

[Hamilton Saint]

I admire her. She was litterally an iron lady for britain both at home and abroad. She hurt a lot of people on the way to mending the mess the socialists left, but without what she did the fruitful years a generation has enjoyed would never have happened.

 

She wasn't "litterally" (sic) an iron lady. The expression "Iron Lady" is a metaphor.

[dune]

She wasn't "litterally" (sic) an iron lady. The expression "Iron Lady" is a metaphor.

 

That's fascinating.

[Big John]

Thatcher lovers imho are predominantly people who have no connection (apart from possibly those who resent their childhood's and their parents) to the communities that she attacked and killed off. They tend to be drawn to people who they would like to live next door to but nevertheless would build as big a fence as possible to keep them out of view and earshot.

 

Thatcher has gone down in history as the iron lady and is admired for her ruthlessness but she is, was and always will be remembered also for being a number 1 prize ****.

[Jonnyboy]

Thatcher had more 8ollox than you'll ever have, even as a woman!!

 

are those hers in your avatar?

[Jonnyboy]

I've a had right argumjent/debate in Southampton city centre with them. I'd recomend you engage them johnny because they make the reds on here seem like political genious's.

 

its spelt genius, genius

[Hamilton Saint]

its spelt genius, genius

 

And plurals are not formed with an apostrophe. But let's not be too fascinating, eh?!

[dune]

Thatcher lovers imho are predominantly people who have no connection (apart from possibly those who resent their childhood's and their parents) to the communities that she attacked and killed off. They tend to be drawn to people who they would like to live next door to but nevertheless would build as big a fence as possible to keep them out of view and earshot.

 

Thatcher has gone down in history as the iron lady and is admired for her ruthlessness but she is, was and always will be remembered also for being a number 1 prize ****.

 

Let's talk about 1979. What did sh inherit, what were cards she was dealt?

[dune]

its spelt genius, genius

 

Like i give ****. I don't need to spell it to be it, just like you can be a cvnt without being in the grammar police, but being in it certainly -put your few rungs up the ladder.

Edited 11 October, 2010 by dune

[badgerx16]

And plurals are not formed with an apostrophe. But let's not be too fascinating, eh?!

It should be an infractionable offence to pick at June's grammar and spelling on any post he / she makes after 18:00 - once the chemical infusions kick in he / she has very little control of what his / her typing fingers are doing.

[Jonnyboy]

It should be an infractionable offence to pick at June's grammar and spelling on any post he / she makes after 18:00 - once the chemical infusions kick in he / she has very little control of what his / her typing fingers are doing.

 

lol

[Saintandy666]

The breakup of the British Empire was inevitable. World War 1 and 2 broke us financially. We had no choice, nothing to do with Labour. The empire was simply no longer profitable and we no longer had the funds to justify it.

[dune]

It should be an infractionable offence to pick at June's grammar and spelling on any post he / she makes after 18:00 - once the chemical infusions kick in he / she has very little control of what his / her typing fingers are doing.

 

But the worst thing is i bet i make more sense when i'm trolleyed.

[dune]

The breakup of the British Empire was inevitable. World War 1 and 2 broke us financially. We had no choice, nothing to do with Labour. The empire was simply no longer profitable and we no longer had the funds to justify it.

 

Saintandy I know you are attempting to learn, but you have again gone into posting gear before engaging your brain (otherwise known as wiki). You have made a two line sentence, so well done for that, but i must pull you up on the issue of profitability because, and i'll break this to you gently, you are utterly and completely wrong. No iff's, no but's, no discussion.

[Saintandy666]

Saintandy I know you are attempting to learn, but you have again gone into posting gear before engaging your brain (otherwise known as wiki). You have made a two line sentence, so well done for that, but i must pull you up on the issue of profitability because, and i'll break this to you gently, you are utterly and completely wrong. No iff's, no but's, no discussion.

 

No, not wiki. An A level in history. We could not afford the empire any longer, and it made no financial sense given our domestic economic problems.

[swannymere]

I hate Maggie Thatcher for being such a **** that she managed to make Labour look electable, Britain's decine can be traced to the day she won power.

[dune]

No, not wiki. An A level in history. We could not afford the empire any longer, and it made no financial sense given our domestic economic problems.

 

Well what you learnt is wrong, and i'm not surprised because the national curriculum is utterly agenda driven. Kids don't learn in schools, they're brainwashed - which is why if you can afford to send your kids to a private school. Diane abbott did.

[dune]

I hate Maggie Thatcher for being such a **** that she managed to make Labour look electable, Britain's decine can be traced to the day she won power.

 

Swanny i respect you right to say it how you see it, but could you please explain why you feel such anger - was it a bad period for you?

[Saintandy666]

Well what you learnt is wrong, and i'm not surprised because the national curriculum is utterly agenda driven. Kids don't learn in schools, they're brainwashed - which is why if you can afford to send your kids to a private school. Diane abbott did.

 

I think that was more to do with the standard of Hackney schools rather than national curriculum...

[badgerx16]

Well what you learnt is wrong, and i'm not surprised because the national curriculum is utterly agenda driven. Kids don't learn in schools, they're brainwashed - which is why if you can afford to send your kids to a private school. Diane abbott did.

OK then, enlighten us with the true economic and political facts behind the break up of British imperialism. And remember, from late 1951 to 1964 there were Tory Governments in Britain, and WSC was a key proponent of Indian, and hence Pakistani, self determination.

[dune]

OK then, enlighten us with the true economic and political facts behind the break up of British imperialism. And remember, from late 1951 to 1964 there were Tory Governments in Britain, and WSC was a key proponent of Indian, and hence Pakistani, self determination.

 

skint from two wars, navy couldn't be maintained to enforce gunboat diplomacy, we owed a debt to the empire people for rallying to the mother country, our day had gone. BUT NOT IN AFRICA. The continent wasn't ready to inherit the rich created by imperialism - the people weren't trained as they have a generation to effectively change from hunter gathers to modern man and face it it took us 1000's of years. Macmillan Tory and especially that evil bastard harold wilson were responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of black africans and they are still responsible for the majorit of conflict deaths today. Africa wasn't ready and you call me a racist, an imperialist, or simply a deluded non conformist for stating this, but state it, and defend what i'm stating i will, because i am right.

[Hamilton Saint]

Saintandy I know you are attempting to learn, but you have again gone into posting gear before engaging your brain (otherwise known as wiki). You have made a two line sentence, so well done for that, but i must pull you up on the issue of profitability because, and i'll break this to you gently, you are utterly and completely wrong. No iff's, no but's, no discussion.

 

No ifs, no buts, you mean. You're not paying much attention, are you? That's why it's "no discussion"; you're just not paying attention.

[Big John]

Let's talk about 1979. What did sh inherit, what were cards she was dealt?

 

 

Are you referring to the thousands of decent hard-working coal miners who she inherited, along with their families and the close-knit decent communities that they lived in?

 

Nice work Thatch, very well done.

[Hamilton Saint]

Well what you learnt is wrong, and i'm not surprised because the national curriculum is utterly agenda driven. Kids don't learn in schools, they're brainwashed - which is why if you can afford to send your kids to a private school. Diane abbott did.

 

Some kids learn in school; some kids don't - they don't pay attention, apparently.

[dune]

Are you referring to the thousands of decent hard-working coal miners who she inherited, along with their families and the close-knit decent communities that they lived in?

 

Nice work Thatch, very well done.

 

No, and I'm not really opinionated either way of the mine closures. Actually in a way i'm pleased we've left our reserve is "ground storage" because it's there for a rainy day just like a nations bullion reserves should be.

 

What I am actually talking about is summed up by the famous phrase used to describe Britain in 79 - the sick man of europe. Whatever you say (and i'll admit that many mining communities never recovered (poor them), Britain made a brilliant bounce back from the brink under Maggie and the 80's were good times with Maggie and Ronald reagon ruling the roost. Britain boomed - and then bust and then boomed, but the busts didn#t bust the treasuries coffers so the bouncebacks were a given. After the last 13 years of labour there is no money left and we're spending more on paying off the interest on the debt (without even paying a penny off the debt) than we pay for the NHS. That is tragic and that is what happens when you let Labour loose in governemnt.

[dune]

Are you referring to the thousands of decent hard-working coal miners who she inherited, along with their families and the close-knit decent communities that they lived in?

 

Nice work Thatch, very well done.

 

You cannot congratulate her for this, but at the time it was the right economic decision. Maybe we should have thrown money at subsiding British coal or maybe we should have taken a protectist stance and put a premium on coal imports, but the decision was made based on advice given and with the likes of british leyland the myriad other unprofitable unionised public industries there wasn't a bottomless pit to prop up the unpropupable indefinately, especially given the fact Labour had left the country broke in 79.

[dune]

Big John I don't like to be direct, but can't be arsed to beat about the bush, are you a rozzer?

[Big John]

Big John I don't like to be direct, but can't be arsed to beat about the bush, are you a rozzer?

 

i take that as tfic dune, yes? twas a 'rozzer' who broke my great-uncle's head open working for maggie. and if i'd wanted to fight crime i'd rather have put my undies on over my trousers than alienate myself from my friends and family.

 

Nought persoanl, just not for me, I'm more your passive anarchist tbh.

[Big John]

Am I right in saying that Thatch gave birth to GB Plc, which is why she never undertsood the VALUE of people? She created a whole generation of greed and to this day people still don;t get it.

 

I am by no means perfect but one thing that I think is a good trait is that of compassion. Ther will be people who take the **** in any system, but a minority doing it through benefits pales compared to the criminal capitalists who appear to be teflon coated. Start at the top, the very top I say.

[dune]

i take that as tfic dune, yes? twas a 'rozzer' who broke my great-uncle's head open working for maggie. and if i'd wanted to fight crime i'd rather have put my undies on over my trousers than alienate myself from my friends and family.

 

Nought persoanl, just not for me, I'm more your passive anarchist tbh.

 

Bang goes that long held hunch ha ha.

[Verbal]

I admire her. She was litterally an iron lady for britain both at home and abroad. She hurt a lot of people on the way to mending the mess the socialists left, but without what she did the fruitful years a generation has enjoyed would never have happened.

 

Thatcher fixed the 'mess' not by cutting public spending, but by increasing it by an average, in real terms, of 1.1% per year - according to the Institute of fiscal Studies. The sheer chaos about to be unleashed by the '25-40%' spending cuts will sort out the coalition PDQ.

[Big John]

Bang goes that long held hunch ha ha.

 

I'm curious as to what this hunch was/is based on dune? Really, as I can't recall ever having anything BUT an anti-establishment stance.

 

btw, I once had a PM 'accusing' me of the same.

 

also, i could never work for an institution as homophobic, racist and sexist as them although I should add that they do some very good work and are mostly decent men and women with the odds often stacked against them.

[dune]

Thatcher fixed the 'mess' not by cutting public spending, but by increasing it by an average, in real terms, of 1.1% per year - according to the Institute of fiscal Studies. The sheer chaos about to be unleashed by the '25-40%' spending cuts will sort out the coalition PDQ.

 

If you mean it'll see the coalition fail I am airing on the side of not. No doubt the Liberals rank and file are deeply unhappy, but I just think it'd be far too costly to the Liberal party if they caused the collapse - I think it'd destroy them for a generation and they are already in the doldrums (have been since the 1920's or whenever). That said they are in a no win situation really anyway and they'll be hit very at the next in a pincer attack - tories squeezing them in the South, Labour squeezing them in the north, but were they to go against the will of the 2010 voters who voted for what we have got I can see them facing a wipeout scenario. Oh to be a Liberal. And you've gotta hand it to David Cameron for his guile and political intelligence in forming th coalition and the way he's coming across now - he is one smart cookie and you underestimate him at your peril. Red Ed is no match and his appointment really could have won the Tories another term. In fact I convinced it has and a even despite austerity cuts the Tories will be respected for doing what sensible people know needs doing.

Edited 11 October, 2010 by dune

[dune]

I'm curious as to what this hunch was/is based on dune? Really, as I can't recall ever having anything BUT an anti-establishment stance.

 

btw, I once had a PM 'accusing' me of the same.

 

also, i could never work for an institution as homophobic, racist and sexist as them although I should add that they do some very good work and are mostly decent men and women with the odds often stacked against them.

 

Dunno, maybe I just thought you came accross as cvnt quite often.

[Verbal]

If you mean it'll see the coalition fail I am airing on the side of not. No doubt the Liberals rank and file are deeply unhappy, but I just think it'd be far too costly to the Liberal party if they caused the collapse - I think it'd destroy them for a generation and they are already in the doldrums (have been since the 1920's or whenever). That said they are in a no win situation really anyway and they'll be hit very at the next in a pincer attack - tories squeezing them in the South, Labour squeezing them in the north, but were they to go against the will of the 2010 voters who voted for what we have got I can see them facing a wipeout scenario. Oh to be a Liberal. And you've gotta hand it to David Cameron for his guile and political intelligence in forming th coalition and the way he's coming across now - he is one smart cookie and you underestimate him at your peril. Red Ed is no match and his appointment really could have won the Tories another term. In fact I convinced it has and a even despite austerity cuts the Tories will be respected for doing what sensible people know needs doing.

 

You shouldn't rule out a far more likely outcome: that the political consequences of the spending cuts will be so severe that the coalition's popularity will plummet to unheard of depths. By leaving, and causing a constitutional crisis, the Liberals may actually gain in popularity. Not much maybe, but compared to the party of Dimwit George, enough to make it worthwhile.

[dune]

Time for an intermission. Enjoy.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxn73vXEW7w

[Big John]

Dunno, maybe I just thought you came accross as cvnt quite often.

 

Only 'quite often'?

i don't have to work anymore dune, I'm a kept man nowadays and i'm still adapting to it.

 

in truth i probably have too much time on my hands and you know what they say about idle hands and the devil.

 

i'm actually looking for a new hobby, must be cheap and not involve collecting stuff.

[dune]

but compared to the party of Dimwit George, enough to make it worthwhile.

 

How is he a dimwit for trying to tackle the deficit whose interest alone costs more than the whole NHS?

 

With respect people like you need to wake and learn to see the gravity of the situation.

[dune]

Only 'quite often'?

i don't have to work anymore dune, I'm a kept man nowadays and i'm still adapting to it.

 

in truth i probably have too much time on my hands and you know what they say about idle hands and the devil.

 

i'm actually looking for a new hobby, must be cheap and not involve collecting stuff.

 

Knicker snatcher or peeping tom would be my suggestion.

[Big John]

i raise your patriotic claptrap dune, in fact, I'll see ya:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKrQXV4keRI

[dune]

Let me just sum up. I'm a working class Tory like Alf Garnett, not some middle class crusader like a good deal of the hobby Socialists who're waiting for another whale to save, and the reason I support the Tories is because I know that you cannot live indefinately beyond your means as a person or a business or a government. And therefore as a working class person i will always look ahead - past the next 6 moths - i'll look to the next 10 years and i'll look to when i'm due to retire, because unlike the Politically Correct champagne socialists (who haven't got an effing clue about how traditional working class people fee) how I vote and who's in power affects ME a lot more than it''d affect the hobby florence highinggales who clocks off and go back home to their bookcases and guardian suplements with the financial ability to take a chance because they'll be alright Jack. I don't have that luxury so I vote with my head and I vote for me (how ****ing selfish) and you can ram the bloody Labour party because I want a strong economy for the future and i'm prepared for some pain now to get it. Dave Cam may be posh, but i'm not one to cowtow to anyone, so I don't see him like this - i just see him as a man who's got lucky and went to public school and got a good education. I had the opportunity to go to private school through a scholaship but i was 13 and settled in secondary school and my parents respected my decision then. In hindsight it was the wrong decision though, but i really have a low view of people that are jealous of those with money. They've been dealth their cards, you've been dealt yours, get on with and drop the ****ing chip on the shoulder.

Edited 12 October, 2010 by dune

[dune]

i raise your patriotic claptrap dune, in fact, I'll see ya:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKrQXV4keRI

 

I like it, but i'm still a proud royalist.

[dune]

No **** I could jizz on her face to match her necklace. She might be old, but she's ****ing hot.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V0HFkGp63g

 

I should add I felt the same about Edwina curry - stuck up slag, but she'd have your **** in here mouth too often to notice, and Thera May is also a foxy lady, but reckon with her you'd have to be in complete control and ignore her protests knowing full well she really wanted hard and rough with no slowing despite being stretched like never before - arghh stop stop stop she'd shout but you'd know she wanted a real man to inflict pain a pleasure in a creshendo pulses and flowig juices. Caroline Flint on the other hand, really tarty on the outside, talks absolutely **** when she opens her mouth, and would be as much fun in bed as a dyson poweball with a burnt out motor. It'd be all I hate men that use women for sex and love is most important, and does my accent make me sound working class and thick like mum taught me for the street corner, and should i wear low cut, see through, or just get my tits out and give Red Ed some bitty co he looks a milky kinda guy, and as you're about to pump spunk - "do you think it's fair i got in the cabinet through an all women shortlist or am i really a think bimbo that flashed my tits in the right places to tastless Labour types that only had fat jenny on the pie counter of the working mens club to use as a comparison." By which point you've had enough, finnished spuking, and wiped your nob on her tummy just to annoy her suffragette attitudes to bedroom etiquette. You then call harriet harmen to take down the stiffy and think to yourself, i'd rather **** a tory slag.

Edited 12 October, 2010 by dune

[LGTL]

Dune, please tell me you didn't just say Thatcher was "****ing hot"?? How many you had?

 

[Big John]

and you call me a ****!

[dune]

Dune, please tell me you didn't just say Thatcher was "****ing hot"?? How many you had?

 

 

She was very hot, and she'd need a strong man to control her in bed, but boy would she buck if treated like most classy women enjoy - like a woman by a man. MT - don't do that.You - who said you'd got a choice - MT - arghhh /You : like that don't ya you ****ing whore, turn over, shove the wooden goo goo in, it's time for the chocolate tunnel, suck it ***** and get it dripping for entry MT : gently please argggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh, You scream louder you ****ing slut and ge those fingers back in your ****, i wanna feel you tense and your ring squeeze tight before you get filled with a finger dip for work tomorrow - That'll keep you smilling....

Edited 12 October, 2010 by dune

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

I hate attention seeking threads.

[dronskisaint]

But the worst thing is i bet i make more sense when i'm trolleyed.

 

How will we ever know?

[hughieslastminutegoal]

Labour for everything they've ever done in destroying the empire and knocking Britain of the top of the perch. Without that party we'd all now be rolling in it. Cvnts cvnts cvnts.

 

Like The Rest Of The World had nothing to do with the demise of empires? It was Britain and only Britain (whether Labour or not) that determined what most of the world became?

I think you'll find that the peoples of the "Empire" had some say in it.

Never heard of Ghandi, Nehru, et al?

 

Is cvnt your favourite word? Glad to see you Empire wallahs uphold the highest of standards.

[The Cat]

Dune's last post on this thread is possibly the best thing ever written in the history of the world, and even better for the fact he spent an hour and 7 minutes editing it into perfection.

[Verbal]

She was very hot, and she'd need a strong man to control her in bed, but boy would she buck if treated like most classy women enjoy - like a woman by a man. MT - don't do that.You - who said you'd got a choice - MT - arghhh /You : like that don't ya you ****ing whore, turn over, shove the wooden goo goo in, it's time for the chocolate tunnel, suck it ***** and get it dripping for entry MT : gently please argggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh, You scream louder you ****ing slut and ge those fingers back in your ****, i wanna feel you tense and your ring squeeze tight before you get filled with a finger dip for work tomorrow - That'll keep you smilling....

 

I rest my case.