Peter shilton.....what if?

[lordswoodsaints]

Flicking through the channels i just caught a glimpse of shilton lowering himself on some dancing program......

 

 

 

What if maradona hadn't cheated in 86 finals?

 

 

 

Just for fun cos I'm bored.

[scott_saints]

We might have won.

[ChrisPY]

Doesn't matter that maradona cheated. Shilts with an arm in the air shouldn't have been beaten by a midget with his arm in the air.

[Micky]

Were you really just 'flicking through the channels' or is there something else you really want to share with the forum...!!!

[Alain Perrin]

Shilts probably had a tenner on it...

[moon monkey]

What if we had a sell on clause when we sold shearer to blackburn

[red&white56]

Doesn't matter that maradona cheated. Shilts with an arm in the air shouldn't have been beaten by a midget with his arm in the air.

 

Looking at Shilts on Strictly - has he shrunk or is he is not as tall as i thought he was?

[fareham saint phil]

Always wished Shilts had took the cheating little ****ers head off, always ****ed off about the second goal Reidy should have took his legs off, bitter and twisted about it, who me!!!!!!!!

[chocco boxo]

Tina Tina

[Huntingdon]

I think you'll find that Shilton needs the money

 

His gambling was out of control when he was younger, and I know a couple of people on here have quoted the Ladbrokes story - When he was at Saints, the club settled his bill with a few local Ladbrokes shops in return for keeping it quiet from the media

[moonraker]

Double page spread in the Observer yesterday about Shilts, he said Mardona invited him onto his Argentinian chat show, Shiltons conditions to appear included Mardona admiting he was a cheat!! as he would not Shilts refused to appear.

[Dimond Geezer]

Looking at Shilts on Strictly - has he shrunk or is he is not as tall as i thought he was?

 

I thought that. But I seem to remember when Shilts was listed on the Panini sticker (or something) his height was stated as 6'0".

 

Quite short for a keeper really - even back in the old 'un days.

[chocco boxo]

Was it not PS who used to hang from door frames to make himself taller?

[a1ex2001]

Was it not PS who used to hang from door frames to make himself taller?

 

Indeed he did, as a teenager he also used to hang over the side of his stairs with his mum pulling on his legs as he hoped this would make him taller. For a world class goal keeper he is very short which is why Maradona beat him to that ball, had he been van de sar tall then the short argie tosser would never have got close. The thing that really cost us that game wasn't Maradona cheating it was the horrible miss by lineker in the dieing minutes, if he'd stuck that away we would have one the game as the Aregntinians were nowhere.

[Huntingdon]

Shilton should have dropped by England 5 years before he retired

 

I blame him for Maradona's goal, he didn't have enough spring in his legs to reach the ball

 

I also blame him for England's loss to Germany in 1990 - he backtracked like a cart horse when Brehme had his shot.

He was then an embarrassment in the penalty shoot out - virtually all of their pens had hit the back of the net by the time he dived

[Charlie2008]

Shilts probably had a tenner on it...

 

Could be...

 

Gambling was his downfall.

 

Good keeper though when he was up for it.

 

Happy days!

 

[daveygwyatt]

Shilton should have dropped by England 5 years before he retired

 

I blame him for Maradona's goal, he didn't have enough spring in his legs to reach the ball

 

I also blame him for England's loss to Germany in 1990 - he backtracked like a cart horse when Brehme had his shot.

He was then an embarrassment in the penalty shoot out - virtually all of their pens had hit the back of the net by the time he dived

 

would that be the Brehme shot that deflected up of Parker and loppped in, no would would have stopped that so your well wrong there..

agree with the pens though he went the right way for each one but never looked like saving any of them.

[bender]

Always wished Shilts had took the cheating little ****ers head off, always ****ed off about the second goal Reidy should have took his legs off, bitter and twisted about it, who me!!!!!!!!

 

Reidy was on a yellow.

[amsterdam]

I'll probably get flamed here, but I've always been a bit ambivalent about Shilts... No doubt that he was a cracking keeper on his day for both Saints and England (I'll ignore his dive over the ball against Poland in 1973); but in any interview I've seen with him, he never mentions his time at Saints (1982-87 (something like that?) when he was arguably at his peak) - even though he got a First Division Runners Up medal with us.

I know it's more natural for him to talk about his successes with Notts Forest and his "spiritual home" of Leicester, but you'd think he'd give us a mention occasionally (AND he's on this site's banner...). Even Osgood (more associated with Chelsea) and Ball (likewise with Everton) regularly had a fond word about Soton. Can he truly be regarded as a SAINTS legend?

[Huntingdon]

I think Shilton would have struggled in the modern game

 

His biggest weakness was his kicking, and football's changed, this would have found him out

[Lord Duckhunter]

If the goal had been chalked off, then it may have ended 1-1. We would have then gone out on Pens.

[Jesus Reigned]

Indeed he did, as a teenager he also used to hang over the side of his stairs with his mum pulling on his legs as he hoped this would make him taller. For a world class goal keeper he is very short which is why Maradona beat him to that ball, had he been van de sar tall then the short argie tosser would never have got close. The thing that really cost us that game wasn't Maradona cheating it was the horrible miss by lineker in the dieing minutes, if he'd stuck that away we would have one the game as the Aregntinians were nowhere.

 

Surely you're not referring to the virtual replica of the goal we did score, where Barnes crossed for Lineker to head in, only to be denied by the one of the greatest defensive headers of all time when Olarticoechea(I think) headed the ball BACKWARDS whilst diving full-flight towards his own goal?!

 

I can't remember any other misses, although I was only 12 at the time and was still smarting from Maradonna's first "goal"............

[a1ex2001]

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Surely you're not referring to the virtual replica of the goal we did score, where Barnes crossed for Lineker to head in, only to be denied by the one of the greatest defensive headers of all time when Olarticoechea(I think) headed the ball BACKWARDS whilst diving full-flight towards his own goal?!

 

I can't remember any other misses, although I was only 12 at the time and was still smarting from Maradonna's first "goal"............

 

Great deffensive header or not it was still a horrible horrible miss for one of the worlds best strikers, the ball should have been in the back of the net end of argument.

[saint1977]

I'll probably get flamed here, but I've always been a bit ambivalent about Shilts... No doubt that he was a cracking keeper on his day for both Saints and England (I'll ignore his dive over the ball against Poland in 1973); but in any interview I've seen with him, he never mentions his time at Saints (1982-87 (something like that?) when he was arguably at his peak) - even though he got a First Division Runners Up medal with us.

I know it's more natural for him to talk about his successes with Notts Forest and his "spiritual home" of Leicester, but you'd think he'd give us a mention occasionally (AND he's on this site's banner...). Even Osgood (more associated with Chelsea) and Ball (likewise with Everton) regularly had a fond word about Soton. Can he truly be regarded as a SAINTS legend?

 

Shilts's book had a lot about his time with Saints and how proud he was to be part of what was probably our best ever side. He was at his best for us around 83-85/6 and he probably moved to Derby at the right time. He still had an aura about him though, the first season he played for Derby on returning to the Dell Danny Wallace got out-psyched on a one-to-one and Shilts played really well. I know this has been said millions of times but if we'd had Shilton in that Keegan/Channon/Moran side we probably would have won the title. My old man has always wondered about that possiblity.

[Lets B Avenue]

Shilts's book had a lot about his time with Saints and how proud he was to be part of what was probably our best ever side. He was at his best for us around 83-85/6 and he probably moved to Derby at the right time. He still had an aura about him though, the first season he played for Derby on returning to the Dell Danny Wallace got out-psyched on a one-to-one and Shilts played really well. I know this has been said millions of times but if we'd had Shilton in that Keegan/Channon/Moran side we probably would have won the title. My old man has always wondered about that possiblity.

 

Totally agree with that. Shilts was by far and away the best Goalie I have seen in 46 years of footy and not just at Saints.

 

However, he was the worst back seat navigator to partys at 3am.

[lordswoodsaints]

Shilts's book had a lot about his time with Saints and how proud he was to be part of what was probably our best ever side. He was at his best for us around 83-85/6 and he probably moved to Derby at the right time. He still had an aura about him though, the first season he played for Derby on returning to the Dell Danny Wallace got out-psyched on a one-to-one and Shilts played really well. I know this has been said millions of times but if we'd had Shilton in that Keegan/Channon/Moran side we probably would have won the title. My old man has always wondered about that possiblity.

 

Totally agree,he was the missing part of the puzzle that would have made us the greatest team in the land at that time.