Citizens?

[revolution saint]

I notice Dave is now referring to us in his big society vision as citizens. We're not we're subjects.

[Hamilton Saint]

I like the reference to citizens.

 

It annoys me when right-wingers refer to citizens constantly as "taxpayers", "consumers", or - God help us! - "customers".

[Saint in Paradise]

You should all be called "Resource Users" :lol:

[dubai_phil]

I notice Dave is now referring to us in his big society vision as citizens. We're not we're subjects.

 

Perhaps it is time to change the subjects

[trousers]

I notice Dave is now referring to us in his big society vision as citizens. We're not we're subjects.

 

cit·i·zen (st-zn)

n.

1. A person owing loyalty to and entitled by birth or naturalization to the protection of a state or nation.

2. A resident of a city or town, especially one entitled to vote and enjoy other privileges there.

3. A civilian.

4. A native, inhabitant, or denizen of a particular place: "We have learned to be citizens of the world, members of the human community" (Franklin D. Roosevelt).

[Middle English citisein, from Anglo-Norman citesein, alteration (perhaps influenced by dainzain, denizen) of Old French citeain, from cite, city; see city.]

[solentstars]

I notice Dave is now referring to us in his big society vision as citizens. We're not we're subjects.

 

i,m a citzen you may be a subject lol:rolleyes:

[GenevaSaint]

I am Citizen Smith

[Kingsland Codger]

I believe the switch from 'subjects' to 'citizens' was in 1981/1983 or thereabouts. I recall when my son was born there had been a new Nationality Act and his new passport said 'British Citizen' whereas my existing passport said 'Subject'.

[Whitey Grandad]

To modern governments we are all 'economic work units', or 'slaves' as they used to be called.

[norwaysaint]

I'm always refer to myself as a "registered user". That's what's on my passport.

[Big John]

we are all just numbers.

[Whitey Grandad]

we are all just numbers.

 

No, always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.

[Deppo]

If it's ok for Wolfie Smith, it's ok for me. Power to the people.

[Colinjb]

Maybe a clearer criteria for Citizenship should be formulated. Something to be earned, not a birthright.

[Verbal]

Maybe a clearer criteria for Citizenship should be formulated. Something to be earned, not a birthright.

 

So if you don't 'earn' it you get thrown out of the country? I think this idea has been tried - along with invading Poland, etc.

[Wes Tender]

I notice Dave is now referring to us in his big society vision as citizens. We're not we're subjects.

 

You'd better write to the UK Border Agency and tell the man from the Ministry that they've got it all wrong. They seem to have the idea that anybody born in this Country is a British Citizen and that anybody who wishes to obtain a British passport must become a Citizen first. Why, they've even introduced a Citizenship test.

 

How wrong can a Government Department get things, eh?