Barney Arrested - Echo

[Toadhall Saint]

Has he been actually charged with anything yet, for charges to be dropped???????????

 

And the guy that said he had heard they had been dropped, suggested "The Passing of silver" might have helped... The only problem with that is that with so many witnesses, it has nothing to do with whether he wants to prosecute or not (Unless he wants to file a civil charge) it's down to whether the CPS think there is a reasonable chance of winning

 

Exactly that - mind you if the person that has been hit does not want to go to court etc the CPS will need to factor in a hostile witness which in turn makes it easier for the defence.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

I don't think the person who got wacked has any choice in who gets charged with what.

 

If the 'victim' withdraws the complaint, there is no charge to pursue...

[aintforever]

If the 'victim' withdraws the complaint' date=' there is no charge to pursue...[/quote']

 

Think it's up to the CPS, they can still prosecute if the victim doesn't complain. I would expect the whole thing is on CCTV.

[Gemmel]

If the 'victim' withdraws the complaint' date=' there is no charge to pursue...[/quote']

 

******** B 0 ll0cks

[NickG]

Don't think he has been charged therefore no charges to be dropped.

 

If the assault was serious the authorities would be reluctant to let him get away with it, even if the aggrieved didn't want to pursue it, if there is evidence.

 

If there is other evidence, and if he did use a bottle / fight in public then there are other offences - offensive weapon, affray etc - that would make the views of any aggrieved irrelevant.

 

Lots of "ifs".

[buctootim]

Think it's up to the CPS, they can still prosecute if the victim doesn't complain. I would expect the whole thing is on CCTV.

 

My ex assaulted me in front of the kids. Nice lady. The neighbours saw it and called the police. I didnt want it to go to court because it would potentially have made the situation worse, but the CPS prosecuted 'in the public interest' (she was a teacher) and she got found guilty. So it does happen.

[ringwood]

from the story I have had related , it was self defense,after having the first bottle ripped from his mouth, now if the evidence of which I'm also told its on CCTV points to that viewpoint then the CPS would be unlikely to pursue the case.

 

admittedly I have this story secondhand however it does come via a viewing of the incident report which gives enough doubt on first reading to allow self defense.

[keithd]

If the 'victim' withdraws the complaint' date=' there is no charge to pursue...[/quote']

 

man is murdered, police arrest man who did it. victim refuses to press charges, man who did it goes free

 

thats how it works?

[dellboypete]

man is murdered, police arrest man who did it. victim refuses to press charges, man who did it goes free

 

thats how it works?

 

Might have something to do with the victim no longer being with us?

[keithd]

wooosh

[NickG]

Might have something to do with the victim no longer being with us?

 

keith was using exageration to show how totally wrong other poster is

[Miltonaggro]

The decision to prosecute is solely down to the Crown Prosecution Service. The basic weighing act that they do factors in the evidential burden and the public interest burden, the former providing the crux. A case involving a professional footballer would delight both the CPS and defence counsel; so if Barnard is in the clear, it is because of lack of evidence or indeed, lack of guilt...

[Draino76]

I've always wondered why murder is prosecuted. Its not as if they can do it to the same person again is it?

[Lets B Avenue]

That fence in Brittania Rd must have been a good witness.

[Paul75]

Just a thought................If it was a Pro Boxer who got ****ed by Barney would he really want to press charges against a footballer and take away a his hardman image? not surprised if something will be sorted to save both a bit of face?

[once_bitterne]

Just a thought................If it was a Pro Boxer who got ****ed by Barney would he really want to press charges against a footballer and take away a his hardman image? not surprised if something will be sorted to save both a bit of face?

 

I thought the hospital were trying to save his face?

[Viking Warrior]

come on lets be avenue. My informants tells me the fence in britannia road was not a good witness as the defence lawyers could only prove they were sat on the fence and were able to pull holes in that (fence) witness. Im also hedging my bets and would say the fence was not able to get to court that day

[Lets B Avenue]

Im sure he just gave his friend, Dee, a Ring.

[saint_mears]

If the 'victim' withdraws the complaint' date=' there is no charge to pursue...[/quote']

 

It does not work like that im afraid.

[altoniansaints]

Where has this "charges dropped" thing come from???

[Toadhall Saint]

Where has this "charges dropped" thing come from???

 

Wishful thinking.

[Gemmel]

Wishful thinking.

 

Execpt he hasnt been charged yet

[Toadhall Saint]

Execpt he hasnt been charged yet

 

Correct but is he not bailed under some kind of suss law eg suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm with intent? I'll have to dig out my old bail sheets now! ;-)

[exit2]

Just to clarify

1. He is on bail

2. He has not been charged with anything.

3. If the CPS do not want to pursue then he be released from his bail conditions.

4. If the CPS wish to pursue, then he will be asked to attend a police station, there he will be re arrested and charged with whatever.

[Toadhall Saint]

Just to clarify

1. He is on bail

2. He has not been charged with anything.

3. If the CPS do not want to pursue then he be released from his bail conditions.

4. If the CPS wish to pursue, then he will be asked to attend a police station, there he will be re arrested and charged with whatever.

 

Sounds about right.

[Dalek2003]

Well, I hope for the sake of Barnard it is all sorted out soon. If he has done nothing wrong then this kind of thing hanging around you is no good at all.

[NickG]

Just to clarify

1. He is on bail

2. He has not been charged with anything.

3. If the CPS do not want to pursue then he be released from his bail conditions.

4. If the CPS wish to pursue, then he will be asked to attend a police station, there he will be re arrested and charged with whatever.

 

one of our rural posters?

[NickG]

Just to clarify

1. He is on bail

2. He has not been charged with anything.

3. If the CPS do not want to pursue then he be released from his bail conditions.

4. If the CPS wish to pursue, then he will be asked to attend a police station, there he will be re arrested and charged with whatever.

 

being pedantic but he will be answering bail and therefore not re arrested

[Viking Warrior]

Kaser Sozes friends know exactly what went on that night.

 

Maybe he will reveal the truth in due course

I also notice that those who were there drinking with barnard (allegedly have all gone quiet) I wonder why?

[scotty]

Kaser Sozes friends know exactly what went on that night.

 

Maybe he will reveal the truth in due course

I also notice that those who were there drinking with barnard (allegedly have all gone quiet) I wonder why?

 

that may or may not be the case, but he's posted some utter bs in the past.

[doddisalegend]

in what looks like a similair case to Barney's, Caroll of newcastle got away with just a fine. Apparently he didn't mean to glass the bloke he was just throwing a drink at him and the glass slipped out of his hand and into the blokes face:suspicious:.

 

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=155080953

[ChrisPY]

http://lawiki.org/lawwiki/R_v_savage,_r_v_parmenter_(1992)

 

Should still have been charged with common assault.

[chocco boxo]

And Fonte gets done £1500 for letting his dad drive his Range Rover. I bet when they catch who torched Carrolls Range Rover he will not get fined as much as Fonte!!!!