Barney Arrested - Echo

[Jez]

Why?

 

If he is mates with SRS, then he'll have a code of honour where he is not allowed to grass, and no doubt has beef with the police, so won't ever help with any official enquiries like this as it'll be against some thugs code of conduct. Probably

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

If he is mates with SRS, then he'll have a code of honour where he is not allowed to grass, and no doubt has beef with the police, so won't ever help with any official enquiries like this as it'll be against some thugs code of conduct. Probably

 

Probably have been egging him on in fact.

[Viking Warrior]

Since this story first broke on Sunday . there have been various opinions as to what had happen. A bottle be smashed over some head a glass being used. multiple stabs with the bottle.

 

In the past I have only come across a singular glass or bottle injuries to the face. Normally the person on the receiveing end falls to the ground in pain and covered in blood while the assailent legs it. I have never seen a multiple glassing to the face in all the time I worked in an A&E dept. So I will wait for the truth to come out as to who did what in the wee small hours of Sunday

[Viking Warrior]

Is there any truth in the Rumour that LB pulled SRS bird or sister and SRS got animated and a fight ensued. Just a rumour doing the rounds?

[Shroppie]

Is there any truth in the Rumour that LB pulled SRS bird or sister and SRS got animated and a fight ensued. Just a rumour doing the rounds?

 

About as likely as any of the other 93 rumours.

 

Think I'll wait for facts now. Sorry to be boring.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Is there any truth in the Rumour that LB pulled SRS bird or sister and SRS got animated and a fight ensued. Just a rumour doing the rounds?

 

Nah, that was Pardew. Alledgedly.

[oxfordshire_saint]

Is there any truth in the Rumour that LB pulled SRS bird or sister and SRS got animated and a fight ensued. Just a rumour doing the rounds?

 

I heard it was that LB came onto SRS, only to be greeted with homophobic hostility.

 

LB then lost it, shoved a bottle up his arse, the pain of which rendered him unconcious.

 

LB's cut hand was due to him then punching the window of Ann Summers in an attempt to acquire a dildo for the night after the cagefighters turned him down too.

 

All was captured on CCTV.

[Dimond Geezer]

If he is charged I imagine the club will then make some comment. Good luck to the fella, have been what he is going through and it's not easy.

 

 

If he is charged, there must be enough evidence to say he did it, in which case he doesn't deserve good luck. Maybe the guy that got clobbered is more deserving of some good luck, like he is lucky to still have his sight, or lucky he is not scarred for life. (Assuming it was a glassing or bottling).

[surrey1saint]

These are the only facts being reported by police as yet: A police spokesman said last night: “Police were called at around 2.45am today to reports that a man had been assaulted outside a bar in Southampton.

 

“Officers attended the scene outside White House; a 27-yearold man had suffered head injuries and was unconscious.

 

He was taken by ambulance to hospital.

 

“Four men aged 31, 26, 26 and 25, were arrested by police on suspicion of assault. Three remain in custody this morning.

 

One of the 26-year-olds was street bailed and taken to hospital with an injury to his hand.

 

He is due to answer bail on October 6.”

[Turkish]

If he is charged, there must be enough evidence to say he did it, in which case he doesn't deserve good luck. Maybe the guy that got clobbered is more deserving of some good luck, like he is lucky to still have his sight, or lucky he is not scarred for life. (Assuming it was a glassing or bottling).

 

All charging means is that there is a realistic chance of conviction, so some evidence to prove that he MAY be guilty, it doesn't mean he is. Quite often the OB will charge and then build the case before it gets to court, sometimes using limited evidence to push the charge through. Charging means nothing and does not mean guilt. Maybe the guy he clobbered was a complete arse and deserved it, maybe he wasn't we dont know.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

All charging means is that there is a realistic chance of conviction, so some evidence to prove that he MAY be guilty, it doesn't mean he is. Quite often the OB will charge and then build the case before it gets to court, sometimes using limited evidence to push the charge through. Charging means nothing and does not mean guilt. Maybe the guy he clobbered was a complete arse and deserved it, maybe he wasn't we dont know.

 

Exactly. I heard the guy who was clobbered was a racist rapist. Barnard was trying to keep the peace. Of course, I have no evidence to back this up.

[Turkish]

Exactly. I heard the guy who was clobbered was a racist rapist. Barnard was trying to keep the peace. Of course, I have no evidence to back this up.

 

so he only raped white women?

[sandwichsaint]

If it was SRS who got clobbered you can bet he went down in instalments.

[Evil Monkey]

Perhaps the club could convice the police that they have the wrong man. Does Anthony Pulis look anything like Barnard?

[surrey1saint]

perhaps the club could convice the police that they have the wrong man. Does anthony pulis look anything like barnard?

 

lol

[RedArmy]

What happened to Harding and Butterfield that were supposedly with him?

 

Were they nicked?

[Window Cleaner]

What happened to Harding and Butterfield that were supposedly with him?

 

Were they nicked?

 

31,26,26,25 if you can believe the Echo, 3 still in custody Monday last. Work it out for yourself

[Viking Warrior]

Is it Posible that Harding who is 26 and Butterfield who is 31 and along with barnard also 26 are all involved

or isit just coincidental? Who is the 25 year old?

 

They meet the age criteria put out in the Echo or are the echo just trying to create a non story

[CanadaSaint]

31,26,26,25 if you can believe the Echo, 3 still in custody Monday last. Work it out for yourself

 

Very worrying, but as Viking points out it could just be a coincidence. A big coincidence.

 

If it's more than a coincidence, no wonder the Club is staying quiet right now.

 

This could be a very, very big deal.

[Window Cleaner]

Is it Posible that Harding who is 26 and Butterfield who is 31 and along with barnard also 26 are all involved

or isit just coincidental? Who is the 25 year old?

 

They meet the age criteria put out in the Echo or are the echo just trying to create a non story

 

i think Butters is only 30

[Viking Warrior]

Window . Your right. but he is almost 31 as his Birthday is next month born 1979. and the echo tend to round up or down to suit their needs for the story.

 

I saw in the news that some guy got 24 weeks jail for some minor offence. intially i thought he got 24 months until i read it again

24 weeks sounds a lot mor than 5mths jail

[toofarnorth]

I'm pretty sure if other Saints players had been arrested it would be in print somewhere by now.

[saint_stevo]

Re-bailed until December

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Re-bailed until December

 

How do you know?

[georgeweahscousin]

Radio Solent reported it.

 

Is that a good or bad thing?

[Kaiser Soze]

Radio Solent reported it.

 

Is that a good or bad thing?

 

Basically means they need to make further enquiries before they have enough evidence to charge.

[altoniansaints]

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8435653.Saints_striker_bailed_again_after_brawl/

[rooney]

Whatever the outcome he has now let down the team and the fans as we are short on strikers for Saturday. He should not have been anywhere near the place especially at that hour. What a fool.

[Viking Warrior]

At least he hasnt been charged at this stage. I do not know about criminal law but like mot assaults and attempted murder cases

they normally charge the individual with a couple of days of the incident.

 

I can only deduce that what ever happened is not as clear cut (no Pun intended) as some of the eye witness rumours would suggest

 

I hope Barney is fit for saturday. As far as I am concerned he is still innocent until proved guilty.

How many People Jumped on the Dave Jones band wagon. those accusations almost destroyed a very innocentman

[DrZuess1979 the 2nd]

Great que Saints fans booing every touch.

 

Even though we have no idea, what really happened.

[surrey1saint]

Footballers obviously have to much time on there hands.

 

Always seems to be some player of other getting into some kind of trouble.They should indeed have more sense.

[JRM]

Great que Saints fans booing every touch.

 

Even though we have no idea, what really happened.

 

if he plays on saturday i am sure the fans will get behind him, i certainly will.

he'll only get a boo if he bottles any challenges

[DrZuess1979 the 2nd]

if he plays on saturday i am sure the fans will get behind him, i certainly will.

he'll only get a boo if he bottles any challenges

 

 

Boom Tish

 

lol

[Hatch]

if he plays on saturday i am sure the fans will get behind him, i certainly will.

He'll only get a boo if he bottles any challenges

 

 

lol

[the saint in winchester]

OK, what do we do here? (as there won't be a charge against him until December)

Do we say 'he's innocent until proven guilty', support him if he plays in the team, and cheer his every touch?

Or do we take the moral high ground as we know the minimum is 'drunk in the early hours, involved in affray' - that's a minimum. On that basis do we want the club to suspend or de-select the player(s)?

Is his head going to be right? Can he give of his best with this hanging over him?

Of course, I keep writing 'we'. By this I mean 'the Club'. As fans, we have no decision to take. What decision do we think it is right for Adkins and Cortese to take at this stage?

[Um Bongo]

OK, what do we do here? (as there won't be a charge against him until December)

Do we say 'he's innocent until proven guilty', support him if he plays in the team, and cheer his every touch?

Or do we take the moral high ground as we know the minimum is 'drunk in the early hours, involved in affray' - that's a minimum. On that basis do we want the club to suspend or de-select the player(s)?

Is his head going to be right? Can he give of his best with this hanging over him?

Of course, I keep writing 'we'. By this I mean 'the Club'. As fans, we have no decision to take. What decision do we think it is right for Adkins and Cortese to take at this stage?

 

Well he is innocent until proven guilty. So support him all the way.

[Dig Dig]

OK, what do we do here? (as there won't be a charge against him until December)

Do we say 'he's innocent until proven guilty', support him if he plays in the team, and cheer his every touch?

Or do we take the moral high ground as we know the minimum is 'drunk in the early hours, involved in affray' - that's a minimum. On that basis do we want the club to suspend or de-select the player(s)?

Is his head going to be right? Can he give of his best with this hanging over him?

Of course, I keep writing 'we'. By this I mean 'the Club'. As fans, we have no decision to take. What decision do we think it is right for Adkins and Cortese to take at this stage?

 

Fine him or take some form of internal action for being trashed at 3am and bringing the club into disrepute. Same for any other player which may have been there and set the expectations for the rest of the team. Then support him until we know what he is charged with if anything

[Toadhall Saint]

OK, what do we do here? (as there won't be a charge against him until December)

Do we say 'he's innocent until proven guilty', support him if he plays in the team, and cheer his every touch?

Or do we take the moral high ground as we know the minimum is 'drunk in the early hours, involved in affray' - that's a minimum. On that basis do we want the club to suspend or de-select the player(s)?

Is his head going to be right? Can he give of his best with this hanging over him?

Of course, I keep writing 'we'. By this I mean 'the Club'. As fans, we have no decision to take. What decision do we think it is right for Adkins and Cortese to take at this stage?

 

Innocent until proven guilty - if he's charged he'll have his day in court in front of twelve men fair and true. They will decide if he is guilty or not. We as Saints supports need to support him. As to his head being right - after all the hub hub he'll probably look forward to getting out and kicking a ball.

[NickG]

We need him upfront if we want promotion. He's an important player for us. We could sell him in Jan and replace if guilty.

 

would get a cracking fee if he is in custody!!!

[INFLUENCED.COM]

OK, what do we do here? (as there won't be a charge against him until December)

Do we say 'he's innocent until proven guilty', support him if he plays in the team, and cheer his every touch?

Or do we take the moral high ground

 

 

As His every touch was not greeted with cheer previously to this why would we now ? cheer and go nuts if he scores as you would normally.

Who are any of us to take the moral high ground ? simply support the team, if he is in it then he gets that support and as highlighted above as he has not been proven guilty of anything why treat him differently at all ?

[oxfordshire_saint]

Hmmm, if he's battered a boxer, he may have to watch his back!

[Joey-deacons-left-nut]

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8435653.Saints_striker_bailed_again_after_brawl/

 

reading that..

 

"The victim was a member of the local professional boxing circuit and was accompanied by his friend, champion cage fighter Tom Watson. The pair had been with others at an event night in Wahoo bar in the High Street earlier in the evening where a re-run of Watson's recent victory with Alex Reid was shown"

 

So not your run of the mill scrap then... don't tell me, one set giving it large, start mouthing off, blah blah blah, i'm harder than you, peopel start squaring up, punches thrown, someone ****ted with a bottle... 6 of one half a dozen of the other i'm guessing...

[Turkish]

OK, what do we do here? (as there won't be a charge against him until December)

Do we say 'he's innocent until proven guilty', support him if he plays in the team, and cheer his every touch?

Or do we take the moral high ground

 

 

As His every touch was not greeted with cheer previously to this why would we now ? cheer and go nuts if he scores as you would normally.

Who are any of us to take the moral high ground ? simply support the team, if he is in it then he gets that support and as highlighted above as he has not been proven guilty of anything why treat him differently at all ?

 

exactly and even if he is guilty, everyone makes mistakes, that is the one of the problems with this site and society in general, to many taking the moral high ground, to many judgemental tw*ts, let him who is without sin........

[RedAndWhite91]

Surely a professional boxer and a champion cage fighter could hold their own against a footballer?

[John B]

Surely a professional boxer and a champion cage fighter could hold their own against a footballer?

 

Perhaps that is why a bottle was used

[RedAndWhite91]

Perhaps that is why a bottle was used

 

Yeah guess so, but even so. Anyway, I don't want to speculate as to what happened, think I'll wait for official word.

[DrZuess1979 the 2nd]

Surely a professional boxer and a champion cage fighter could hold their own against a footballer?

 

TBF don`t know too many people that would square up to a cage fighter

[sfc4prem]

My guess is Barnard defended himself against the two strapping lads with the on thing he had in his hand - a bottle.

 

That is all.

[aintforever]

To be fair, if a boxer and cage fighter were attacking me I would stuff a bottle in their face.

[Saint-scooby]

speculation speculation speculation

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Time will tell