corsacar saint Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 I hope for Lee Barnards sake,he has not thrown his career down the drain,he has probably been our best player so far this season. However if he is proven guilty he deserves everything he gets. The club could certainly do without this,as things are definately moving in the right direction with NA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 Can someone please tell me what the article says. The online Echo just teases and I work in Skateland so can't just nip out and get a copy. Has anyone actually read the article yet, apparently quoting someone who was there and was caught up in it? I wouild be interested to hear what was said. Or are we just all interested in idol speculation and moral point scoring on a forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 IMO he's an idiot even to get remotely involved in a situation like this where he could get arrested, considering his high profile status. Still, we don't know if he is guilty or not. Regardless, I hope this incident is used as an example for the rest of the squad and it can all be put in the past pretty quickly. If I were Adkins I would play him against Tranmere (subject to whether he's being detained or not and also fitness) and tell him he owes us Saints fans big, and the best way to make it up to us is on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartosz Bialkowski Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 What is your interpretation of "Rat Arsed" then ?? I get rat arsed most weekends, or so i thought, still know whats going on though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 Has anyone actually read the article yet, apparently quoting someone who was there and was caught up in it? I wouild be interested to hear what was said. Or are we just all interested in idol speculation and moral point scoring on a forum? Just flicked through the article in the newsagents and as far as I can remember it says the man (confimed as a boxer) was bottled (rather than glassed) on the dancefloor. He was not knocked uncouncious, but was bleeding. He walked unaided to the exit of the club. He shook his head and others were then showed with his blood. I don't think the cagefighter names Barnard or anyone. The way it is written it suggests he did not see the original incident. He talks about only being in the club 20 minutes. A second person may have been knocked unconcious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 have any of you seeking for the head of LB ever been arrested for something you didnt do and just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time or were just an innocent bystander who protects himself or his girlfirend? Then if so dont' condemn LB before the facts are known O'Rly Im still waiting for your friends son who you intimate was drinking with lee for a clearer picture or was the son too **** faced to remember? Im Not having ago but would like an update on what you heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 Has anyone actually read the article yet, apparently quoting someone who was there and was caught up in it? I wouild be interested to hear what was said. Or are we just all interested in idol speculation and moral point scoring on a forum? Lee Barnard an idol??!! You cannot be serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 Has anyone actually read the article yet, apparently quoting someone who was there and was caught up in it? I wouild be interested to hear what was said. Or are we just all interested in idol speculation and moral point scoring on a forum? Thats the norm round here isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 5 October, 2010 Author Share Posted 5 October, 2010 It would seem that nothing has really happened ...... otherwise it would be on The OS .... Nicola told us that earlier in the season only beleive what is on The OS . So I guess we can all relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 So a non event then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 O'Rly Im still waiting for your friends son who you intimate was drinking with lee for a clearer picture or was the son too **** faced to remember? Im Not having ago but would like an update on what you heard I did ask O'RLY for more info earlier in this thread, this was his reply. Difficult to say, never had information from them before but I would say accurate...they run a law firm so maybe could offer LB some help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 In related news .. well, kind of .... Southend want to send Matt Paterson out on loan. How about it? Cover for Lambert and Barnard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 meatheads from ocean gym dolphin hotel by all accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 To be fair to Lee Barnard, Southampton at night is full of knuckle draggers and slags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 (edited) To be fair to Lee Barnard, Southampton at night is full of knuckle draggers and slags. Ah, that's alright then...it's perfectly acceptable for a professional sportman paid lot's of money to be out at 3am bottling another drunk...glad that's cleared up. Edited 5 October, 2010 by Saint Fan CaM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmysaint7 Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 i take it if he has had surgery he is now not available saturday or for a little after that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 To be fair to Lee Barnard, Southampton at night is full of knuckle draggers and slags. I'd have chosen to get involved with the latter rather than the former though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 Ah, it was a doorman? Apologies, didn't read the article, so a semi fail there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomobz Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 ''lee barnard, barnard! He's short but he's f**king hard! He smashes up boxers in bars! Lee barnard, barnard!'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 Ah, that's alright then...it's perfectly acceptable for a professional sportman paid lot's of money to be out at 3am bottling a bar doorman...glad that's cleared up. I read the paper and it doesn't say it's a doorman as far as I can see. It's a mate of the cage fighter bloke who was attacked on the dance floor before walking outside where he was treated by the staff at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WokingSaint Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 Don't you mean 'our'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 I was arrested for something I didn't do on the evidence of a dodgy witness. Made worse by the totally incompetent Police investigation. Got to court before the whole thing was shown to be the crock of sh!t it was. Do not assume anything until ALL the evidence is revealed. Many a reputation has been ruined by idle gossip and conviction by newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 Has anyone actually read the article yet, apparently quoting someone who was there and was caught up in it? I wouild be interested to hear what was said. Or are we just all interested in idol speculation and moral point scoring on a forum? Surely you mean idle point scoring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 Surely you mean idle point scoring? Or idle speculation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denzil Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 Me and SRS were out in town in the evening, later on alot of our group ended up in Whitehouse and ended up right in the middle of it unintentionally. I will be surprised if we see Barnard play for us again, thats all I am saying on the matter. It was nasty to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 Me and SRS were out in town in the evening, later on alot of our group ended up in Whitehouse and ended up right in the middle of it unintentionally. I will be surprised if we see Barnard play for us again, thats all I am saying on the matter. It was nasty to say the least. Witness, Judge and Jury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denzil Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 Witness, Judge and Jury? No, just me, Stu and a few others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 What a surpise that fatty and his dimwit mates were in the middle of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 October, 2010 Share Posted 5 October, 2010 (edited) Witness, Judge and Jury? come on, you dont have to be a Poirot, man gets taken to hospital with serious face injuries, another with hand injuries, strong rumours of a glassing, you do the rest...... Edited 5 October, 2010 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 come on, you dont have to be a Poirot, man gets taken to hospital with serious face injuries, another with hand injuries, strong rumours of a glassing, you do the rest...... The word you're looking for is evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 Me and SRS were out in town in the evening, later on alot of our group ended up in Whitehouse and ended up right in the middle of it unintentionally. I will be surprised if we see Barnard play for us again, thats all I am saying on the matter. It was nasty to say the least. This is evidence, and apparantly corroborated by more than one person, but the peple to give that evidence to are the police, not an internet message board. The police will test the validity and compare what they are told with what others say. Denzil should contact the police as a witness, if he hasn't already done so. That Lee Barnard is a saints' player is irrelevant to the investigation of a crime of violence. What is relevant to SFC, is how their players conduct themselves in public. Footballers get the pay they do because of the high public profile, and that carries responsibilities, one of which is to avoid late night drinking establishments and being on the street at 3am amongst groups of drunks when the potential for trouble is quite obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 If Saints want to recruit the best players in L1, on the best pay, they should expect the highest standards on and off the pitch. given the general drinking culture in English football, I would say that such standards might include drinking on a Saturday night. They wouldn't really include being out drinking in known trouble spots at 3 AM.In my opinion. Professional athletes on top money, Ought to come with some responsibilites really. certainly not judging LB, but he has already let the club(and the paying customers) down once this season with the sending off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 due to miss out on staurday afetr emergency surgery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O_RLY Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 have any of you seeking for the head of LB ever been arrested for something you didnt do and just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time or were just an innocent bystander who protects himself or his girlfirend? Then if so dont' condemn LB before the facts are known O'Rly Im still waiting for your friends son who you intimate was drinking with lee for a clearer picture or was the son too **** faced to remember? Im Not having ago but would like an update on what you heard Nope, as I understand it Barnard used a bottle on the doorman multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 Thanks for that O'RLY it does sound serious though for Barnard A question for Denzil and STu , why didnt you just grab Barnard and pulll him away before htings got worse as you state yoy were all in the middle of it. especially as stu is a hardman and former squaddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 I guess if he used the bottle multiple times he could be charge wth attempted murder. isnt today he goes back to answer bail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-scooby Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 Thanks for that O'RLY it does sound serious though for Barnard A question for Denzil and STu , why didnt you just grab Barnard and pulll him away before htings got worse as you state yoy were all in the middle of it. especially as stu is a hardman and former squaddie Stu was worried he would break Barnards arms and back by grabbing him, such is his strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 I guess if he used the bottle multiple times he could be charge wth attempted murder. isnt today he goes back to answer bail It'll likely be Section 5 GBH with intent. I know someone who got done for this, 4 strech and it didn't involve a bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 It'll likely be Section 5 GBH with intent. I know someone who got done for this, 4 strech and it didn't involve a bottle. The "intent" bit is the serious bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 The "intent" bit is the serious bit. exactly, if it's true that he repeatedly hit someone with a bottle the prosecution will argue that he intended too and knew he would cause serious injuries. Mind you, Barney will probably have a decent brief and wont have to have legal aid and barristers that dont really give a f*ck about the defendant, so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 Sad sad day if we are still trying to find ways of exonerating someone for an attack with a bottle just because he's potentially a footballer at Southampton FC! Not trying to be holier than thou - but there are no excuses in society for this type of behaviour not matter how prevoked or intoxicated one is! Not heard many people express concern for the poor bloke on the receiving end of the attack - it's all about someone else "getting off and playing for Saints again". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 Sad sad day if we are still trying to find ways of exonerating someone for an attack with a bottle just because he's potentially a footballer at Southampton FC! Not trying to be holier than thou - but there are no excuses in society for this type of behaviour not matter how prevoked or intoxicated one is! Not heard many people express concern for the poor bloke on the receiving end of the attack - it's all about someone else "getting off and playing for Saints again". Rumour has it, he's going to sign from Southend last january. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrimd Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 exactly, if it's true that he repeatedly hit someone with a bottle the prosecution will argue that he intended too and knew he would cause serious injuries. Mind you, Barney will probably have a decent brief and wont have to have legal aid and barristers that dont really give a f*ck about the defendant, so who knows. I, like most, do not know what happened but surely if it was multiple times, with a bottle, he would have been arrested on the spot and taken down to the station for processing. Bad hand or not. Or if hand was really bad, arrested and taken to hospital with an escort, then taken to station for processing. Not sure street bail would have been used for such a serious assault. That much aggression surely would require time too cool off! Although I am by no means an expert on the matter, far from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 I, like most, do not know what happened but surely if it was multiple times, with a bottle, he would have been arrested on the spot and taken down to the station for processing. Bad hand or not. Or if hand was really bad, arrested and taken to hospital with an escort, then taken to station for processing. Not sure street bail would have been used for such a serious assault. That much aggression surely would require time too cool off! Although I am by no means an expert on the matter, far from it. He was arrested on the spot but It's normal to grant bail whilst police continue their enquiries by taking witness statements and viewing CCTV footage etc. Althought GBH with intent is serious, it's hardly rape or murder which would warrant an escort and being relatively famous it's not likely he is going to do a runner and skip bail. Lets also not forget he hasn't actually been charged with anything yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Soze Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 He will probably be interviewed later and then re-bailed or charged. I have it on good authority one of the other fellas involved was charged yesterday so it doesn't look good for him. If he is charged I imagine the club will then make some comment. Good luck to the fella, have been what he is going through and it's not easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 Charged yesterday > With what..???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 Me and SRS were out in town in the evening, later on alot of our group ended up in Whitehouse and ended up right in the middle of it unintentionally. I will be surprised if we see Barnard play for us again, thats all I am saying on the matter. It was nasty to say the least. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 If someone smashes a bottle round someones head or face, it will likely smash. If someone therefore repeatedly smashes someone round the head/face with a bottle, its gonna be broken glass and will cut someone to shreds. If someone was doing this in some alcohol fuelled rage then some serious damage would be done as there is no doubt the bottle would smash. So how on earth could that actually happen, and then the assailant just walk away with police bail? I don't hear of the guy who was attached being hugely scarred or needing masses of stitches or anything, so the reports on here sound like rubbish to me. But still, that's par for the course on here, idol (sp) gossip without the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 6 October, 2010 Share Posted 6 October, 2010 He will probably be interviewed later and then re-bailed or charged. I have it on good authority one of the other fellas involved was charged yesterday so it doesn't look good for him. If he is charged I imagine the club will then make some comment. Good luck to the fella, have been what he is going through and it's not easy. Not as easy as smashing someone in the face with a bottle. He deserves no good luck if he did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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