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aintforever

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If he bottled someone then he is an idiot even if there is an element of provocation/self defence.

 

But to suggest footballers can't stay out to 2-3am in town is nonsense. Drinking huge amounts is not wise for a professional athlete but just because he is out late doesn't mean he has drunk huge amounts.

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Liquidshokk

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My best mate was on jury duty a few years ago on a case like this. An asian guy was accused of glassing a white guy and left him seriously disfigured, the outcome was that it couldn't be proved that he hadn't been provoked, so he got let off without even having to pay the guy any compensation. Will have to be a lot of evidence against him for Barnard to go down for any length of time.

 

BTW, if you are a professional sportsman and you earn your living through your ability with your feet, wouldn't you be a bit miffed if someone did something that could torpedo your gravy boat? Not that it is justification for a serious attack with a bottle, but I can imagine any highly paid sportsman getting upset if someone did something to their person that could put a holt to their career any length of time.

 

Seeing as we still look fairly toothless in front of goal at the moment and Barney being the only one showing any sign of changing that, dropping him without an adequate replacement is nuts, we need the points so badly at the moment that he has to play on until he's been judged in a court of law or Adkins has got a decent if not better replacement.

 

I seem to remember there being a camera looking over the stairs in White house where some have reported the incident took place. Maybe someone can confirm? Hopefully if he was provoked then it will all be recorded. Wishful thinking maybe.

 

I too thought it may have been because someone did something which could affect his career. Someone mentioned a guy tripped down the stairs so maybe he caught Barney in the legs and made him snap?! Not that that warrants a bottle'ing or owt. There was a similar discussion on Something for the weekend yesterday where they were talking about protecting the tools of your trade and the fear of damaging body parts that could then end your career.

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I normally believe in innocent until proven guilty, but in my opinion this is such a serious and stupid act that we ought to just get rid of Barnard and I hope he goes to prison.

 

How very Norwegian of you.... the land of "overveiende sannsynlig", i.e. we can't prove a damn thing but we're so sure he did it we'll give him life anyway (e.g. Gamal Hussein, the Orderud case).

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How reliable do you reckon your friend's son is, and do you reckon thats accurate? if it is, LB is likely to be facing rather more than a fine and community service imho

 

Difficult to say, never had information from them before but I would say accurate...they run a law firm so maybe could offer LB some help!

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My best mate was on jury duty a few years ago on a case like this. An asian guy was accused of glassing a white guy and left him seriously disfigured, the outcome was that it couldn't be proved that he hadn't been provoked, so he got let off without even having to pay the guy any compensation. Will have to be a lot of evidence against him for Barnard to go down for any length of time.

 

I read it was a doorman, the incident should be on CCTV if thats the case. It wont be word against word if theres evidence.

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St_Tel49

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H'mmm - an awful lot of knee jerking going on. Why not wait for the facts to emerge before hanging him? The Facts as reported are 1. He was bailed to answer on Wednesday 2. He has a hand injury. The reason for 2 has not yet been explained. - why not wait and see?

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Some lad fronted up to Harding in the Whitehouse. Barnard reacted and glassed the lad in the face. It then kicked off with the door staff, the old bill arrived and LB was eventually carted off.

 

Probably a ball boy who was disgruntled at Harding for ragging off at him for the past 2 seasons.

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Shroppie

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Some lad fronted up to Harding in the Whitehouse. Barnard reacted and glassed the lad in the face. It then kicked off with the door staff, the old bill arrived and LB was eventually carted off.

 

And I assume you wre there and saw it all with your own eyes?

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Viking Warrior

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Tokyo saint

 

you forgot to add

 

I heard that Lambert throw the first punch but missed. Then Lallana steamed in but over exerted himself and got injured. This left Barnard to do all the work. He got off to a slow start but with a change in tactics got the job done in the end.

 

Puncheon is still chasing back to provide some defence and kevin davies Dropped the Bottle oh and Connolly got injured opening the front door of the white house

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RedWillie

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Calm down, calm down....Innocent until proven guilty....

He was bailed immediately as the cops couldn't question him due to his injury...doesn't look good for anyone, particularly the person he has allegedly hit?

He's been bailed suggesting that more evidnece needs to be gathered so it's not clear cut. If he hit someone with a bottle then he had this to hand and could claim self defence; if he glassed someone that's a different case all together, that suggests a degree of premeditation and the consequences would be much more serious.

 

Anyway, he's bailed to return on Wednesday....until then....

 

 

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Check out a couple of other threads and you will see that I posted this story yesterday afternoon, hours before it even made the media.

 

I did. You posted that you arrived on the scene after it had happened. So you didn't see any assault. You're just taking someone else's word for what happened.

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saint lard

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I will not make a judgement on his alledged behaviour until the facts become clearer,if they ever do.

However i feel he was somewhat nieve in being in the vicinity of such an establishment which has had a past reputation for undesireables.

He is a plum for leaving himself open to finding himself in this predicament.

Footballers are human but do have to have a sense of restraint even when provoked,they surely realise they may get some banter be it lighthearted or otherwise.

You have two options,rise to the bait or walk away.

If he was/was not provoked, and carried out ths alledged attack,either way i will have no sympathy for him and he would deserve whatever the punishment is handed down.

I hope the truth comes to light and it is proven that he was not as so heavily involved as some unsubstantiated reports make out.

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H'mmm - an awful lot of knee jerking going on. Why not wait for the facts to emerge before hanging him? The Facts as reported are 1. He was bailed to answer on Wednesday 2. He has a hand injury. The reason for 2 has not yet been explained. - why not wait and see?

 

You can always rely on the morons of this forum to hang the player before ANY of the facts have been made public, just 10 posts in and if posters are to be believed he was ****ed, was the agressor, and should be sacked from SFC...........jeez we have some utter friggin knobs in our fanbase.

 

 

+1!! HANG THE WITCH!!!! (didnt read the rest of these posts......)

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If it was he who was street bailed I cant see him having much involvement. If he was one of the main aggressors plod would have wanted to secure forensic evidence from him and also question him. There would have been nothing to stop them arresting him and taking to hospital whilst under arrest so they could preserve everything and then interview him later. Now I know plod can be seriously incompetent at times but not doing this would have serious implications possibly in an investigation especially as the aggreived is described as serious.

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It'll be alright, he can just use the Gerrard defence of "I hit him before he hit me".

 

well lets just hope it goes to trial and it is held in southampton, surely there will be enough saints fans on the jury to follow the scousers example and ensure our promotion challenge continues with Barnard leading the line.

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Andy_Porter

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He won't go down for this.

 

I know someone who's a friend of a friend who bottled someone three times in Ocean Collins and the police didn't even bother to press charges...

 

Still however a ridiculously stupid thing for a professional sportsman to do, should probably be dropped for a few weeks.

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to be honest professional footballers should not be out on the town at 2.00am in the morning- eitheron a Saturday night after a game or on any other day of the week

 

they shouldn't be drinking alcohol either

 

they are paid an awful lot of money to live healthy lives, eat healthy and play football - that's why they are paid £3000 a week- over £150,000 a year - to be professional sportsmen

 

whatever else happened the players should get fined a weeks wages and put under curfew just for that

 

if anything else happened they should get punished by the law just like anyone else - and if that means going to prison they should get kicked out of the club on constructive dismissal and sued for the value of their contract - or what's left of it anyway!

 

sure people deserve a second chance but they also have to take responisbility for their actions

This.

 

Once they retire, at the grand old age of 35, for example, then they are free to get smashed every night to make up for lost time.

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Calm down, calm down....Innocent until proven guilty....

 

He's been bailed suggesting that more evidnece needs to be gathered so it's not clear cut. If he hit someone with a bottle then he had this to hand and could claim self defence; if he glassed someone that's a different case all together, that suggests a degree of premeditation and the consequences would be much more serious.

 

Anyway, he's bailed to return on Wednesday....until then....

 

he was bailed to allow his hsopital treatment.

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saintscottofthenortham

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He will not get a custodial sentence. There arent enough prison beds for this kind of crime to justify prison space. It will be community punishment of some sort and a big fine.

 

Plus mateys looking at 8 - 10 k compo

 

My mate was given a years sentence for hitting a bloke and knocking him out. Me thinks if he glassed someone then he will be looking at a little more than a years sentence. The lack of beds doesn't come into it. They go inside, end of.

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saintscottofthenortham

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He won't go down for this.

 

I know someone who's a friend of a friend who bottled someone three times in Ocean Collins and the police didn't even bother to press charges...

 

Still however a ridiculously stupid thing for a professional sportsman to do, should probably be dropped for a few weeks.

 

I think your friend of a friend got off lightly. If they had the evidence, they would have pressed charges. So if there is evidence against Barnard, then he can expect to be made a specific example of purely because he is a proffesional footballer.

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I think your friend of a friend got off lightly. If they had the evidence, they would have pressed charges. So if there is evidence against Barnard, then he can expect to be made a specific example of purely because he is a proffesional footballer.

 

Ah, like what happened to Gerrard? Yeh I know what you mean...

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he was bailed to allow his hsopital treatment.

 

Yes, but if it was that clear cut, they'd have sat with him up the hospital and taken him back to the nick the same night/morning, charged him and remanded him to appear before magistrates the next day. It's only police bail. When I say only....he'll still get arrested if he's in breach of it.

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Nice to see no mention of it at all on Newsnow, bit of censorship from the club?

 

Yes, interesting. Nothing at all about it on Sky Sports mobile site either (and given that they are carrying a story about somebody in the lower German leagues, you would expect a League 1 player getting arrested to make it into the news).

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Yes, but if it was that clear cut, they'd have sat with him up the hospital and taken him back to the nick the same night/morning, charged him and remanded him to appear before magistrates the next day. It's only police bail. When I say only....he'll still get arrested if he's in breach of it.

 

unless of course his hand injury was more serious than warrants a cop sat with him for ages......

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I normally believe in innocent until proven guilty, but in my opinion this is such a serious and stupid act that we ought to just get rid of Barnard and I hope he goes to prison.

 

Sorry Norway, but either you believe in this principle or you don't !

You can't just pick and choose and in any case that is the basis of the law in this country !

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I think all this talk of hanging Barnard is a massive overreaction, which is all I'd expect from this knee-jerking, Daily Mail-readers forum. Being sensible and pragmatic about this, he should be given a custodial sentence of around 3 years and banned from playing professional football for another 2 years once he is out. I think that kind of punishment will teach him the valuable lesson he clearly needs.

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