Heightened UK Terrorist Threat

[Liquidshokk]

Have just seen on the news that the terrorist threat has been heightened in the UK and rest of Europe.

 

Apparently the threat is of Mumbai 2008 style attacks where people are gunned down rather than bombs being used.

 

I can't work out why more bombings or these style of attacks arent more common if the threat is there. I mean if these extremists hate us so much then it would be easy to take 100's of people out right?

 

So do we have a future of mass shootings in our high streets to look forward to? Or hostage situations in high rise buildings as discussed on the news where the terrorists can lock everyone in and start killing from the ground floor to the top??

 

Or should we just not worry as nothing will happen?

 

Why can't we all just get on.

 

Thoughts? Are you scared?

[Tractor_Saint]

This was a story a few days ago tbh. But I'd guess it'll be the big hotel chains that they target - Hilton, Marriott, Ramada, Sheraton etc where it'll have the largest impact and the most people. Sad world we live in.

[scotty]

R4 news bulletin said this evening that the threat has been narrowed down to france and germany. Interesting, given that they were two european countries that avoided getting caught up in iraq.......

[Liquidshokk]

This was a story a few days ago tbh. But I'd guess it'll be the big hotel chains that they target - Hilton, Marriott, Ramada, Sheraton etc where it'll have the largest impact and the most people. Sad world we live in.

 

Oh, only just heard about it. America is warning their people about travelling to Europe because of it so sounds like they know something is on the cards. Could affect our tourist spots hard and I for one am nervously waiting for the news that something has happened. I think a terrorist attack here is well overdue since the July bombings... The government are normally dismissing this sort of thing to prevent panic so if they are telling us about it then I'd say it's imminent.

 

Be safe people. Sad world indeed.

[Huntingdon]

Football grounds are the perfect target for them

 

Hundreds/thousands people standing outside a ground are sitting ducks

[Liquidshokk]

Football grounds are the perfect target for them

 

Hundreds/thousands people standing outside a ground are sitting ducks

 

*shudder*

 

If this sort of things becomes seriously commonplace in the future we could see an end to such masses of human beings all in one place. Football matches behind closed doors maybe...

[Tractor_Saint]

America is warning their people about travelling to Europe

 

That's only 20% of them they are warning isn't it?

 

Hmm - going to Southern Spain next week - but not in staying in a large hotel chain thankfully.

 

Good shout about the football ground though. Remember when there Swine flu was 'up there' and the plans to cancel all footy matches...

[Liquidshokk]

Football grounds are the perfect target for them

 

Hundreds/thousands people standing outside a ground are sitting ducks

 

I just can't work out why it hasn't already happened??? I mean we can't believe for one minute that the weapons aren't out there and that there aren't groups that want to carry out such things in the UK.

[Tractor_Saint]

I just can't work out why it hasn't already happened??? I mean we can't believe for one minute that the weapons aren't out there and that there aren't groups that want to carry out such things in the UK.

 

Oh, believe me, everytime one of them flybe jets comes over with a packed Northam I start planning the exit routes...

[Liquidshokk]

Oh, believe me, everytime one of them flybe jets comes over with a packed Northam I start planning the exit routes...

 

Good luck getting out quickly if anything does happen. Bad enough after any given game...

[Tractor_Saint]

Good luck getting out quickly if anything does happen. Bad enough after any given game...

 

Pies might be hot though...

[Arizona]

*shudder*

 

If this sort of things becomes seriously commonplace in the future we could see an end to such masses of human beings all in one place. Football matches behind closed doors maybe...

 

No, that would be ridiculous IMO. I'd imagine if something like that happened we'd just get a lot of armed police at large public gatherings. IF there were to be an attack on something like a football match, I'd hope people don't give in to the terror and live in a world of fear.

[dubai_phil]

Well, Thank God it hasn't happened yet, however I do recall trying to take the time out on more than one thread to sort of try to warn you lot. I hope it never becomes an "I told you so" moment.

 

A great many people in the world want us to all live in Mud Huts and darkness, and many of them were given homes in Europe as being "victimised" in their own countries and no doubt travelled for their training and paid for their communications equipment with their Dole money.

 

On the positive side, more and more tools are becoming available to the Security Forces to intercept and interpret the comms channels, which could be one reason they are targetting Mainland Europe. But it also makes your on-line shopping far less secure.

 

Just be wary and be safe people

[Liquidshokk]

No, that would be ridiculous IMO. I'd imagine if something like that happened we'd just get a lot of armed police at large public gatherings. IF there were to be an attack on something like a football match, I'd hope people don't give in to the terror and live in a world of fear.

 

It might just be the excuse I need to stop wasting my money on season tickets I think people would continue to go... I was amazed by the attitude of people in London after the July bombings where they didn't let it stop them getting on with their lives. Guess it depends how commonplace it becomes.

[Liquidshokk]

Well, Thank God it hasn't happened yet, however I do recall trying to take the time out on more than one thread to sort of try to warn you lot. I hope it never becomes an "I told you so" moment.

 

A great many people in the world want us to all live in Mud Huts and darkness, and many of them were given homes in Europe as being "victimised" in their own countries and no doubt travelled for their training and paid for their communications equipment with their Dole money.

 

On the positive side, more and more tools are becoming available to the Security Forces to intercept and interpret the comms channels, which could be one reason they are targetting Mainland Europe. But it also makes your on-line shopping far less secure.

 

Just be wary and be safe people

 

I sometimes fail to see how the armed forces can intercept one of these people waking up one day and going out and gunning people down in a Cumbria shootings stylee though. Im guessing not all of these extremists are part of groups whose plans can be found out.

[dubai_phil]

I sometimes fail to see how the armed forces can intercept one of these people waking up one day and going out and gunning people down in a Cumbria shootings stylee though. Im guessing not all of these extremists are part of groups whose plans can be found out.

 

It isn't the Amred forces, it is the myriad of "Cyber Warfare" tools that are being developed at an ever increasing rate of knots that intercept the communications. When the nutters stop using Facebook and Skype and start using Carrier Pigeons, THEN the problems will start.

 

2 weeks ago I saw a demo of a special App for an I-Phone - it will boot up a PC through the USB hub and access send or copy every file and every conversation that machine has had on Social Media for the past mont or so. I've also seen a device that will hack any mobile, copy the entire contacts list, access every picture AND if you had a GPS in the phone identify where and when the photo was taken - to do that the scanner only needs to be within 500 metres.

 

The thing to be scared about is who killed the GCHQ spy in the bag who was working on that sort of stuff?

[Jonnyboy]

nothing like a little scare story to keep everyone afraid.

 

that way we can shrug our shoulders when the next US drone kills 50 kids on the pakistan border

[Johnny Bognor]

Football grounds are the perfect target for them

 

Hundreds/thousands people standing outside a ground are sitting ducks

 

Well they won't bother with Fratton Park as there won't be enough people in it. There is also a risk that they could make improvements to the ground if high explosives are involved.

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

nothing like a little scare story to keep everyone afraid.

 

that way we can shrug our shoulders when the next US drone kills 50 kids on the pakistan border

 

Totally agree. These warnings are rediculous. The fact is that there are plenty of targets in the west and the number of attacks in reality has been very, very few. Yes they are very shocking when they happen but what do warnings achieve except to make some people scared?

 

I recently saw an interview with a US tourist who said that she would now be more vigilant. Vigilant for what? If you bump into some dodgy characters armed with AK47s and Grenades the chances are that it is too late for you to change plans and visit the Lourve instead of the Eiffel Tower.

[holepuncture]

Football grounds are the perfect target for them

 

Hundreds/thousands people standing outside a ground are sitting ducks

 

I have always thought this could be the next big one.

[Sheaf Saint]

http://johnbakersblog.co.uk/odds-of-dying-in-a-terrorist-attack/

 

You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack

You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack

You are six times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack

You are eight times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack

You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane

You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack

You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack

You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack

You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack

You are nine times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack

You are eight times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist

 

To be honest, I couldn't give a toss what the threat level is. There are far more pressing things that I should be worrying myself to death about.

[moonraker]

http://johnbakersblog.co.uk/odds-of-dying-in-a-terrorist-attack/

 

 

 

To be honest, I couldn't give a toss what the threat level is. There are far more pressing things that I should be worrying myself to death about.

 

This, they thrive on fear, if you are noty afraid it is part way to neutralising them.

[Verbal]

It isn't the Amred forces, it is the myriad of "Cyber Warfare" tools that are being developed at an ever increasing rate of knots that intercept the communications. When the nutters stop using Facebook and Skype and start using Carrier Pigeons, THEN the problems will start.

 

2 weeks ago I saw a demo of a special App for an I-Phone - it will boot up a PC through the USB hub and access send or copy every file and every conversation that machine has had on Social Media for the past mont or so. I've also seen a device that will hack any mobile, copy the entire contacts list, access every picture AND if you had a GPS in the phone identify where and when the photo was taken - to do that the scanner only needs to be within 500 metres.

 

The thing to be scared about is who killed the GCHQ spy in the bag who was working on that sort of stuff?

 

You must be scared of your own shadow.

[Viking Warrior]

There probably is a threat of some kind. What I cannot underatnd why it took the UK 24 hours later after the americans issued a warning.

Mind you the other day when I was in Brussels. I went to an outdoor concert in the central square anf this North african (Algerian) turned up and stood extremely close to a number of lasses . really close, had a back pack on. and kept taking out

three different mobiles. from the straps on the front of the back pack. He was very nervous to say the least There was something about his demenour that did seem right. and he certainly appeared to be sweating and very twitchy For a few minutes I was very concerned. that he was either about to pick pocket someone or press abutton. you dont stand that close to someone unless you are inside their clothes. I descretely took a photo of him at which point he quickly disappeared. Much to my relief.

 

I didnt thing much more after it until I was back home and these warniung were given. At the end of the day this guy probably was nervous at being at a large gathering and not knowing anyone.

 

It was a great gig by the two groups who performed

[Hatch]

Bring it on.

 

Not scared at all by it.

[dubai_phil]

You must be scared of your own shadow.

 

Lol, don't be silly, I live down here, ain't none of them gonna mess with the part of the world that handles all their financial transactions!

 

I know it is nasty but IF anything bad was to happen in the EU I would just love it to be a bunch of the PC nerds who let all the idiots have sanctuary.

 

Remember - nasty Terrorist types who were deemed too extreme or dangerous down here are all happily living in the EU having claimed asylum and being paid Dole money by your taxes. So, in a round-a-bout Ironic sort of way, you are using your own taxes to cause your own terror threats which means you have to raise your taxes to spend on more security

[dune]

There should be no threat to britain - we're an island fortress. Well we once were an island fortress.

 

Te enemy is now within and it's very sad.

[Viking Warrior]

Yur right Dune

 

we are an island fortress and we can sleep easy knowing Delldays is somewhere of our shores protecting us in his underwater boat

with powerful rockets aboard

[ecuk268]

Of course it couldn't be the case that the MI5 and MI6 are having to justify the many millions that they cost with the spending cuts looming?

 

What better way than convincing us that we're all in great danger.

[Liquidshokk]

Of course it couldn't be the case that the MI5 and MI6 are having to justify the many millions that they cost with the spending cuts looming?

 

What better way than convincing us that we're all in great danger.

 

I think it was the US that came up with this "intelligence" but yeah I wouldnt put it past em'.......

[Dog]

Football grounds are the perfect target for them

 

Hundreds/thousands people standing outside a ground are sitting ducks

 

Unless they choose Fratton park.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

At least if they open fire with machine guns there's a chance you might get lucky and not hit by a bullet, or the bullets might hit you in non-fatal places. You don't stand a chance against an explosion really.

 

First one to dodge a terrorist bullet wins.

[Liquidshokk]

At least if they open fire with machine guns there's a chance you might get lucky and not hit by a bullet, or the bullets might hit you in non-fatal places. You don't stand a chance against an explosion really.

 

First one to dodge a terrorist bullet wins.

 

Time to start brushing up on some matrix stylee terrorist bullet dodging... whats the prize?

[Dog]

Does that mean we can all carry our own guns this sunday to defend ourselves against the lunatic ragheads?

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Time to start brushing up on some matrix stylee terrorist bullet dodging... whats the prize?

 

Not getting shot!

[Liquidshokk]

Not getting shot!

 

Not a bad prize....

[Liquidshokk]

Does that mean we can all carry our own guns this sunday to defend ourselves against the lunatic ragheads?

 

Whats happening sunday?.....

[solentstars]

Have just seen on the news that the terrorist threat has been heightened in the UK and rest of Europe.

 

Apparently the threat is of Mumbai 2008 style attacks where people are gunned down rather than bombs being used.

 

I can't work out why more bombings or these style of attacks arent more common if the threat is there. I mean if these extremists hate us so much then it would be easy to take 100's of people out right?

 

So do we have a future of mass shootings in our high streets to look forward to? Or hostage situations in high rise buildings as discussed on the news where the terrorists can lock everyone in and start killing from the ground floor to the top??

 

Or should we just not worry as nothing will happen?

 

Why can't we all just get on.

 

Thoughts? Are you scared?

 

i thinks it a ploy so their budgets are not cut,its funny how these stories emerge so the taxpayers keep getting ripped of and their budgets are left alone.

anyone remember the weapons of mass destruction lies which blair and bush told us.

[Viking Warrior]

dog your not allwed to use the word ragheads its racist apparently

[aintforever]

i thinks it a ploy so their budgets are not cut,its funny how these stories emerge so the taxpayers keep getting ripped of and their budgets are left alone.

anyone remember the weapons of mass destruction lies which blair and bush told us.

 

Agree, the way they have linked these threats in with a drone missile attack in Pakistan is so contrived. As if you need to fly out to Pakistan to organize a terrorist attack in Europe.

[Dr Who?]

Does that mean we can all carry our own guns this sunday to defend ourselves against the lunatic ragheads?

 

Now I find this very offensive!!!!

[Jonnyboy]

There should be no threat to britain - we're an island fortress. Well we once were an island fortress.

 

Te enemy is now within and it's very sad.

 

what about the french 1066ad, and the romans roughly 50bc?

[Sheaf Saint]

http://newsarse.com/2010/10/05/michael-fish-to-present-daily-terrorism-forecast/

 

:lol:

[moonraker]

There should be no threat to britain - we're an island fortress. Well we once were an island fortress.

 

Te enemy is now within and it's very sad.

Trouble is after tory boy has finished with the armed forces the fortress gates will truly be open

[Dig Dig]

There should be no threat to britain - we're an island fortress. Well we once were an island fortress.

 

Te enemy is now within and it's very sad.

 

Totally agree Dune, those pesky foxes are all over the place!

 

Why would anyone worry about a terrorist attack based on a vague and extremely general terror warning? The chances of anyone of us being involved in any terrorist attack, any where, any place is tiny. And that's whether or not the silly terror alert is high, medium or low.

 

Now excuse me whilst i go and get my legs blown off in some ironic twist of fate

[Baj]

Why would anyone worry about a terrorist attack based on a vague and extremely general terror warning? The chances of anyone of us being involved in any terrorist attack, any where, any place is tiny. And that's whether or not the silly terror alert is high, medium or low.

Having narrowly escaped a real IRA bomb 9 years ago, I feel like I've fulfilled my "chance of terrorism" for my life and am therefore invincible now. I advise anyone who is scared of being killed by terrorist to follow me closely

[Lighthouse]

Totally agree Dune, those pesky foxes are all over the place!

 

Why would anyone worry about a terrorist attack based on a vague and extremely general terror warning? The chances of anyone of us being involved in any terrorist attack, any where, any place is tiny. And that's whether or not the silly terror alert is high, medium or low.

 

Now excuse me whilst i go and get my legs blown off in some ironic twist of fate

 

That's the nuts and bolts of its. 99.99% of people who got on a plane on 9/11 arrived safely. More Brits were probably killed in road traffic accidents on 7/7 than died in the tunnels under London. I suppose what it all comes down to is when your time is up, it's up. If you happen to be in the wrong place at wrong time, there's nothing you can do about that. In the mean time, there's no point in living in fear.

[OldNick]

I was at Wembley arena the other night, if they tried an attack similar to what happened in Russia some years ago it would be carnage. 12 000 trapped in a building as hostages or worse. The armed response teams would not get there in time before real tragedy occurred.

We have a society where there are so many soft targets, one day we will wake up and on the news a act of terrorism that is beyond belief will have happened. There is no country to retaliate against, only a religion and you have no chance in that.

[OldNick]

Having narrowly escaped a real IRA bomb 9 years ago, I feel like I've fulfilled my "chance of terrorism" for my life and am therefore invincible now. I advise anyone who is scared of being killed by terrorist to follow me closely

I cant recall which disaster it was but some people who survived one disaster had a crash landing the day later!!! You are not immune, I had a engine fore on a 747 and emergency landing, had 2 aborted landings since, since here though |lol

[Liquidshokk]

I was at Wembley arena the other night, if they tried an attack similar to what happened in Russia some years ago it would be carnage. 12 000 trapped in a building as hostages or worse. The armed response teams would not get there in time before real tragedy occurred.

We have a society where there are so many soft targets, one day we will wake up and on the news a act of terrorism that is beyond belief will have happened. There is no country to retaliate against, only a religion and you have no chance in that.

 

Agree. Only a matter of time in my eyes. Never truly appreciated the scale and suffering involved in 9/11 but I have a strong feeling that I will one day........................