Rupert Lowe did Good Things while he was at the club - discuss

[Fan The Flames]

The relagation clause was one of his many mistakes, it disbanded the team too quickly and lost us that first year to get back up, we then had to make the decision to gamble in the second year (the right decision in my opinion). If he had kept the team together more and kept the motivation higher of those left behind we might have got straight back up. As ever he was protecting the share price and the dividends. He was a parasitic ****. He had to build the academy under prem rules.

 

The one thing he did good for SFC was to persuade Friends Provident to allow us to call the ground St Marys with out reducing the sponsorship.

[Wes Tender]

Keeping the club in the Prem with gates of 15k was no mean feat either.

 

Oh, that was Lowe, was it? Pardon my stupidity, I thought that it was the players and manager and notably MLT.

[SnailOB]

I hated Lowe, but if there was one person who you want selliing your players, it was him. There is an argument that he had enough practice as we always sold our best players, but that is the way of the prem and once a player has had his head turned, there is very little you can do.

 

I dont think anyone else could have got the fees we did for some of our players, so he gets full credit for that.

He also fell out with the walcott family as theo wouldnt entertain Chelsea and lowe wanted to get them bidding against each other.

 

This, but thats it, not much else springs to mind i'm afraid.

[hughieslastminutegoal]

Irrigation

 

Yes, he had an effect on me that was even better than colonic irrigation.

[OldNick]

he tried to get limited standing back on the terraces, a very good idea.

If only his name was Terry and was brought up in the flower gardens and he would have been fine. His manner and name put peoples backs up and that was a major hurdle to climb.

Made some good decisions but also some poor ones. Keeping Askham and co on board one of the owrst

[CB Fry]

Oh, that was Lowe, was it? Pardon my stupidity, I thought that it was the players and manager and notably MLT.

 

 

MLT's best days were behind him before the summer of 1997, there isn't any season post Lowe's arrival that was a "MLT saved us from relegation" season. He scored the goals at Dellhurst, but it was by no means a vintage MLT season. A certain Latvian sealed the deal on the last day of the season, and scored another crucial goal in the Blackburn 3-3.

 

Staying in the Prem for the seasons at the Dell post-MLT's prime was certainly an achievement that Lowe can take some credit for, not least in the appointment of Jones, Hoddle and Strachan.

[corsacar saint]

The only decent thing Lowe ever did was finally leave,even then he had to be pushed.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

The only decent thing Lowe ever did was finally leave,even then he had to be pushed.

 

He was not that bad. And I actually rather liked him. Chairman have a hard job, and I honestly believe he tried to do the best by us. There are far worse people out there and I don't believe he deserves all the hostility aimed towards him.

[Dalek2003]

He employed Glen Hoddle and Gordon Strachan.

 

 

Round of applause !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dune]

Just had a look at W H Irelands performance since 2008 and it pretty much mirrors the decline of SFC.

[offix]

Good thing he did: leave

Bad thing he did: came back to aversee our near demise.

Good riddens

[Saint_lambden]

Rupert Lowe was a smug tw%t....discuss...

[Saint Madcap]

The Best thing Wupert did for the club was to enter it into administration then leave.

[Wopper]

Biggest w*nker in saints history.

[Doctoroncall]

The relagation clause was one of his many mistakes, it disbanded the team too quickly and lost us that first year to get back up, we then had to make the decision to gamble in the second year (the right decision in my opinion). If he had kept the team together more and kept the motivation higher of those left behind we might have got straight back up. As ever he was protecting the share price and the dividends. He was a parasitic ****. He had to build the academy under prem rules.

 

The one thing he did good for SFC was to persuade Friends Provident to allow us to call the ground St Marys with out reducing the sponsorship.

 

Considering how the team fell out of the premiership in a whimper rather than the fight for survival seen in other seasons, I'm glad the team got broken up.

[OldNick]

Considering how the team fell out of the premiership in a whimper rather than the fight for survival seen in other seasons, I'm glad the team got broken up.

 

that squad to finish below WBA was a disgrace. 1 goal more against WBA home or away and things would be so different.

[aintforever]

You have to give him credit for getting the stadium built and he did OK with the academy.

 

His personality flaws and lack of understanding of football were his downfall. While some of his ideas in theory were sound he made some barking mad decisions.

[Bucks Saint]

Being young and naive I once fired him a pleading letter not to sell MLT (when it seemed he might - but of course this was newspaper cr*p which I should have ignored). He did not just reply, he found my home phone number and called me to discuss the letter and his feelings about the current team etc. OK so he did not give away any great secrets but he was pleasant, reasonable, not patronising and put my mind at rest. Not sure any other Premiership chairman would even think to do that personally, FWIW

[Fan The Flames]

Being young and naive I once fired him a pleading letter not to sell MLT (when it seemed he might - but of course this was newspaper cr*p which I should have ignored). He did not just reply, he found my home phone number and called me to discuss the letter and his feelings about the current team etc. OK so he did not give away any great secrets but he was pleasant, reasonable, not patronising and put my mind at rest. Not sure any other Premiership chairman would even think to do that personally, FWIW

 

That's a good story, Sam Hammam did the same to a friend of my mates, he was a Wimbledon fan and Sam phoned him at work to talk about a possible move away from Merton.

[SW11_Saint]

Remind me... Why are we digging up all this old crud again?

[dubai_phil]

Remind me... Why are we digging up all this old crud again?

 

Well spotted.

 

There is a sticky. It is about the nature of the forum & the Mods, and how the forum had declined and members had gone away to get on with real lives.

 

Many argued that it was impossible to have sensible debates these days as threads become hijacked or people's opinions are attacked with abuse.

 

This showed that the forum HAS actually changed, take THE single most divisive subject for us fans, one that we all hold the actual core same opnion on, but be "marginally controversial" with the angle and see whether we could actually have a sensible discussion.

 

It has been interesting - sure some of the responses show people up for what they are, BUT there are some good points that have been made - without abuse.

 

Lowe stayed too long, his basic concept of a PLC is now shown to be flawed, his personality and leadership style was not conducive to long term success.

 

But, history also shows that he did leave a legacy, obviously SMS & The Academy being the key.

 

Relevance? We had many arguments and opinions over the close season regarding NC and many comparisons to "Evil Dictators" and posters again taking the "aggressive negative" stance. (Which have of course quietened down now we have an Antonio clone on loan, and Adkins has won some games in a bit of style)..

 

Nobody is perfect, but some decisions made are good ones, it shows much of the instant knee jerk reactions can be wide of the mark.

 

(Or in plain English, I was having an aggressive dig and the people who fecked with the forum over the summer)

[sadoldgit]

Well spotted.

 

There is a sticky. It is about the nature of the forum & the Mods, and how the forum had declined and members had gone away to get on with real lives.

 

Many argued that it was impossible to have sensible debates these days as threads become hijacked or people's opinions are attacked with abuse.

 

This showed that the forum HAS actually changed, take THE single most divisive subject for us fans, one that we all hold the actual core same opnion on, but be "marginally controversial" with the angle and see whether we could actually have a sensible discussion.

 

It has been interesting - sure some of the responses show people up for what they are, BUT there are some good points that have been made - without abuse.

 

Lowe stayed too long, his basic concept of a PLC is now shown to be flawed, his personality and leadership style was not conducive to long term success.

 

But, history also shows that he did leave a legacy, obviously SMS & The Academy being the key.

 

Relevance? We had many arguments and opinions over the close season regarding NC and many comparisons to "Evil Dictators" and posters again taking the "aggressive negative" stance. (Which have of course quietened down now we have an Antonio clone on loan, and Adkins has won some games in a bit of style)..

 

Nobody is perfect, but some decisions made are good ones, it shows much of the instant knee jerk reactions can be wide of the mark.

 

(Or in plain English, I was having an aggressive dig and the people who fecked with the forum over the summer)

 

GOod post Phil, but you will always get those for whom everything is black and white and life is much simpler with good cowboy, white hat bad cowboy, black hat.

[Red_No_7]

Top post.

 

RL was many things, but not all bad.

 

had his vision believed in "living within your means", which i admire, regardless.

 

i truly believe if lowe had not been ousted (by the supporters!), the club would have had success in the championship!

 

but then also, Markus arrived, and there is nothing anyone can say negative there too!

[Red_No_7]

Let's not mention all the millions he and his fellows took out of the club over those 10 years in excessively high executive salaries, bonuses and excessive dividends - and all the fat contracts awarded to companies they also owned.

 

All legal - but it was money that could and should have taken SFC to the next level.

 

Lowe did a lot of good things - but he was always in it to make money for himself and his cronies - be they fellow directors or hid shareholding friends.

 

At one point he was the highest paid CEO in football - and I never understood why we needed a CEO and an MD. We were also one of the few if not the only club to pay the non-executive directors a salary - and lets not forget the excessive expenses they all claimed!

 

But he proved that even a well run club couldn't be run as a business indefinately - the cost of sales is too high and the need for investment constant.

 

proof in that or any of what you have written please...

[JackFrost]

Well spotted.

 

There is a sticky. It is about the nature of the forum & the Mods, and how the forum had declined and members had gone away to get on with real lives.

 

Many argued that it was impossible to have sensible debates these days as threads become hijacked or people's opinions are attacked with abuse.

 

This showed that the forum HAS actually changed, take THE single most divisive subject for us fans, one that we all hold the actual core same opnion on, but be "marginally controversial" with the angle and see whether we could actually have a sensible discussion.

 

It has been interesting - sure some of the responses show people up for what they are, BUT there are some good points that have been made - without abuse.

 

Lowe stayed too long, his basic concept of a PLC is now shown to be flawed, his personality and leadership style was not conducive to long term success.

 

But, history also shows that he did leave a legacy, obviously SMS & The Academy being the key.

 

Relevance? We had many arguments and opinions over the close season regarding NC and many comparisons to "Evil Dictators" and posters again taking the "aggressive negative" stance. (Which have of course quietened down now we have an Antonio clone on loan, and Adkins has won some games in a bit of style)..

 

Nobody is perfect, but some decisions made are good ones, it shows much of the instant knee jerk reactions can be wide of the mark.

 

(Or in plain English, I was having an aggressive dig and the people who fecked with the forum over the summer)

 

Well one good indicator is it's been 75 posts and the term "Lowe Luvvie" has so far failed to materalise

[Ohio Saint]

I think Phil should be a mod.......No.....Bad idea......We would just end up losing yet another level head on the forum.

[Under Weststand]

Lets not forget he gave us a nice picture of a train instead of that crappy picture of a former manager with some tin pot cup we won.

No on a serious note Rupert obviously did some good, the stadium, the academy, he missed the opportunity to move us forward by keeping too tight a reign on individual wages. By that I mean instead of getting 3 ordinary players on our wage structure we should have pushed the boat out on 1 really good player on higher wages & broken the said wage structure. If he'd had a team budget rather than a individual budget (I think Bolton is a good example of this) maybe just maybe we'd have never got into the mess we found ourselves in. When we got relegated we had a bloated squad of to many journeymen with no top class players. And as has been said many times before if your not moving forwards you soon start moving backwards. The constant manager merry-go-round also caused instability within the club. So IMHO he missed his chance & then didn't know when to go! Don't hate him like many on here but glad he's now a distant memory.

[JackFrost]

What about the fish tank?

 

Or was that more to do with SCW/Simon Clifford?

[dubai_phil]

I think Phil should be a mod.......No.....Bad idea......We would just end up losing yet another level head on the forum.

 

With all due respect, feck off.

 

I'm a Rocker, hate all that Lambretta & Parka krap

[rocknrollman no2]

With all due respect, feck off.

 

I'm a Rocker, hate all that Lambretta & Parka krap

 

Im with ya there Phil.

Rockers rule!!!

[Ohio Saint]

With all due respect, feck off.

 

I'm a Rocker, hate all that Lambretta & Parka krap

 

I'll see you at the Brighton game......on the beach!

 

I won't get fooled again....Oh no!