Boycott...

[Kingsbridge Saint]

Dibden is entitled to his opinion and I know where he is coming from. Being kept in the dark over the Pardew sacking is very frustrating - particularly when we've been absolute pants on the pitch ever since.

[The Kraken]

Some already have but others never will, because the club gave football performance reasons as justification for the decision and people are entitled to accept that at face value unless the club changes its story, which seems unlikely. If it is correct that it was non-football reasons then the club has lied to its supporters which would not have been a healthy thing to have done and is bound to cause resentment.

 

None of this reflects on Nigel Adkins, but neither does it ensure that he is a better candidate as manager than was Pardew. Pardew had his failings, one of which was 85th minute substitions when players could not make any difference. Adkins brought on Holmes at 90 minutes at MK, so have we improved in that respect?

 

Well put. If the club had simply said "Alan Pardew, Wally Downes and Stuart Murdoch have been relieved of their duties with immediate effect" and left it at that, then there may be something to all the conspiracy theories being thrown around. They didn't. They chose to explain that a breakdown in working relationship between the first team and development centre was the only reason for their dismissal.

 

What Warsash is asking fans to do is completely disregard the official line given by the club (when they were under no obligation to give any reason whatsoever) and believe instead a portion of hysteria and conjecture that has arisen from this message board. No, I don't think I'll be doing that any time soon, thanks. Besides, it makes no sense that all 3 were sacked for the same "non-footballing reasons".

[ottery st mary]

Boycott........Why is Lord Rupert coming back?

 

 

Come on you Saints...

 

WIFM

[alpine_saint]

And 2 games before.

 

Indeed.

 

If the Bristol Rovers game had not happened, I doubt a single tear would have been shed on here.

[The9]

I'm not suggesting anyone else does this, but I have severe misgivings about the Pardew sacking. I believe we would have a better record over the 4 games since than we have had, for sure.

 

So, with this in mind, I will not be present at any games, will not purchase any merchandise and will cut down my use of anything Saints until I receive a satisfactory explanation as to Pardew sacking. And I don't mean the classic 'he had to go', I want a fully ratified reason. Until then there will only be 1 scapegoat for what could be a dire season and that will be Nicola. Mr Cortese it is your prerogative to ensure this doesn't happen. The onus is on you unless you want to be villified by a large section of our fanbase.

 

Well, I agree with all of that, other than thinking you're deluded for expecting an explanation, and mental to think you boycotting will even register - unless you're planning on waving placards outside the entrance on a Saturday, and even then...

[The9]

Why should he? There was no real explanation for the Sturrock sacking, only a false one for Jones, this happens with many managers.

 

Boycott merchandise anyway, it's mostly overpriced tack, but Pardew is in the past. He was an ok manager and for whatever reason left. I'd rather look forward.

 

Sturrock mutually agreed to leaving the club, as I'm sure you are aware.

[stevegrant]

As for Pardew, I do think that we may have got one or two more points but at the time of his dismissal he had failed me in terms of his squad.

 

He did improve the defence, well the full backs at least. However he completely failed to improve on the attacking options we have. About 3-4 weeks beforehand I remember a thread where Alpine amongst others were very critical of this lack of activity and at the time I remarked that as ling as Pardew added 2-3 attacking options by close of the window then I would be happy.

 

Although he did not get the last two days there are no signs that anything would have changed. As such we would be in exactly the same position with no striker on the bench (when one is out) no width in our play, a lack of pace particularly out right and up front, as well as another option to Morgan and Hammond in midfield who are not good enough.

 

I think it is very probable that the last 4 results still would have happened with Pardew in charge and he would now be gone for football reasons....

 

In hindsight he seemed to have got quite complacent and full of excuses.

There's perhaps some basis in the suggestion that as he knew/suspected that his card was marked in terms of his future at the club, he wasn't as motivated and driven as he was last season before all the speculation started. That would appear to explain the lack of fitness and stamina - we weren't too bad last night until we conceded the first goal after an hour or so, but then you could see the confidence and any remaining energy drain from the players and we were never going to get back into it from that point. (I should add that the players' character needs to be questioned at this stage as well - last season, we conceded first on countless occasions but still went on to win games)

 

The fitness is the main thing I hold Pardew responsible for at this stage. The recruitment policy is a bit of a grey area because of the management structure within the club. We know about the transfer committee, comprising Pardew, Cortese, Reed and Burke, and it's possible that there simply wasn't a consensus of opinion among those four as to which players we should bring in in attacking positions.

 

I think someone suggested recently that there was an issue regarding whether we'd sign either Papa Waigo or Michail Antonio (or both) on permanent deals, with AP favouring Antonio and NC favouring Waigo. Given the egos and stubbornness of both of them, if there was a disagreement over this, it's very hard to see either of them backing down from their position, and as a result, we ended up with neither. If this is the case, then both are equally responsible.

 

Adkins will bring in a new energy, enthusiasm, coaching ethos, fresh ideas and (hopefully!!) two or three loanees.

I'd expect him to be fairly active in the loan market once he's had a couple of games to assess which areas of the squad he feels would be benefited the most from a couple of additions. Personally, I think we're OK defensively, but our problems in midfield and going forward leave the defence far too exposed. As a result, I'd like another striker and at least one pacy winger, preferably one who can take corners as well.

[St Lej]

There's perhaps some basis in the suggestion that as he knew/suspected that his card was marked in terms of his future at the club, he wasn't as motivated and driven as he was last season before all the speculation started. That would appear to explain the lack of fitness and stamina - we weren't too bad last night until we conceded the first goal after an hour or so, but then you could see the confidence and any remaining energy drain from the players and we were never going to get back into it from that point. (I should add that the players' character needs to be questioned at this stage as well - last season, we conceded first on countless occasions but still went on to win games)

 

The fitness is the main thing I hold Pardew responsible for at this stage. The recruitment policy is a bit of a grey area because of the management structure within the club. We know about the transfer committee, comprising Pardew, Cortese, Reed and Burke, and it's possible that there simply wasn't a consensus of opinion among those four as to which players we should bring in in attacking positions.

 

I think someone suggested recently that there was an issue regarding whether we'd sign either Papa Waigo or Michail Antonio (or both) on permanent deals, with AP favouring Antonio and NC favouring Waigo. Given the egos and stubbornness of both of them, if there was a disagreement over this, it's very hard to see either of them backing down from their position, and as a result, we ended up with neither. If this is the case, then both are equally responsible.

 

 

I'd expect him to be fairly active in the loan market once he's had a couple of games to assess which areas of the squad he feels would be benefited the most from a couple of additions. Personally, I think we're OK defensively, but our problems in midfield and going forward leave the defence far too exposed. As a result, I'd like another striker and at least one pacy winger, preferably one who can take corners as well.

 

This

[The9]

Then I think the club were a bit liberal with the truth. Why has Pardew said nothing? Maybe because he he can't without looking really bad?

 

I think Reed is a red herring here and the more I hear from reasonably credible people, the more I think Pardew had to go...

 

Pardew probably hasn't said anything because like a lot of managers nowadays he had a non-disclosure agreement in his contract. Speculation, but he may or may not have a large sum of cash dependent on his silence - (either already received as part of his pay, or a settlement, or potentially liable for him to pay the club if he breaks it).

 

From the knee-jerkery of Cortese on some issues so far (photo ban didn't seem well thought out, removal of instalments seems just to be punishment for defaulters even though a repeat could have been easily averted) I'm just inclined to believe his impatience got the better of him.

 

I certainly think if anyone had been asked at the start of the season "would you swap Alan Pardew for Nigel Adkins" the vast majority would say "no". And most would have still said that 3 league matches in.

[Charlie Wayman]

I'm not suggesting anyone else does this, but I have severe misgivings about the Pardew sacking. I believe we would have a better record over the 4 games since than we have had, for sure.

 

So, with this in mind, I will not be present at any games, will not purchase any merchandise and will cut down my use of anything Saints until I receive a satisfactory explanation as to Pardew sacking. And I don't mean the classic 'he had to go', I want a fully ratified reason. Until then there will only be 1 scapegoat for what could be a dire season and that will be Nicola. Mr Cortese it is your prerogative to ensure this doesn't happen. The onus is on you unless you want to be villified by a large section of our fanbase.

 

I expressed my exactly similar sentiments last week and have received torrents of abuse ever since but I'm with you all the way. It was evident to all with eyes and a brain that during pre-season and the gutless, inept performances against Argyle and Orient that half our blokes weren't fit, weren't bothered and weren't up for it. Too many are being sufficiently over-paid on long enough contracts to be in their own personal comfort zones. At the end of the day most out there now are kids having a bonanza day at our expense entering the twilight of their careers. Trouble with many on here is that "they can't stand the truth".

 

I'm not fussed about the why's and wherefore's of AP's sacking 'though, it was inevitable sooner or later because of the well reported lack of empathy between the two men for some time. No doubt a recent single event will have been excuse enough for the club to finally swing the axe and end the impasse.

 

Remember during the first two games Pardew sat it out in the dugout for most of the first halves and when eventually he made it into the technical area, stood there largely motionless with arms folded, what did that tell us?

 

By the time Adkins has bedded himself in and worked out who's for him and who's against, it'll be Christmas and he will need all of next spring to engineer yet another 'Great Escape' with a rebuilt team.

[Beachcombers Windowsill]

You're gonna be waiting a long time there me thinks.

[Wes Tender]

This is not knee jerk, its something I have been thinking about since Pardews sacking. I know I won't get an explanation. At least I now know what the Lowe boycotters felt like (I was one of their biggest criticisers).

 

Well, of course I arrived at the stage that I boycotted matches when Lowe was here and was prepared to continue doing so until he was gone. Having started, I promptly missed three wins in a row, having only experienced one or two in the entire season up to then.

 

But under Lowe we were a PLC and I was a shareholder although only minor and Lowe's cronies held only about 30% of the shares, so could be toppled by a widespread boycott. It had taken me almost a decade of Lowe's mismanagement to arrive at that position.

 

This situation is entirely different and frankly I wasn't that impressed with Pardew to feel the urge to give him support at the expense of not watching the team. Especially as I believe that there were good reasons for him having to go and regardless of how it has been dressed up for the sake of expedience.

[saintscottofthenortham]

Pathetic.

[GenevaSaint]

Dibden is entitled to his opinion and I know where he is coming from. Being kept in the dark over the Pardew sacking is very frustrating - particularly when we've been absolute pants on the pitch ever since.

 

Ask yourself this, when do you ever get the real reason why managers have left? It can be clear as day to all concerned the sacking is for "performance", but it's usually mutual consent. It's very rare people every find out the real reason.

 

We're still non the wiser as to why WGS left are we? We were told personal reasons, who knows......

 

The compromise agreement will have a NDA in place, as is the case in normal companies. Nothing to see here please move on. The rumours will keep doing the rounds but no one will put them in print.

[saintscottofthenortham]

Dibden is entitled to his opinion and I know where he is coming from. Being kept in the dark over the Pardew sacking is very frustrating - particularly when we've been absolute pants on the pitch ever since.

 

We were pants when he was here, bar when we went to Bristol and they self destructed. Under AP we played awful football and had excuse after excuse. Get over it FFS!

[GenevaSaint]

I'm not suggesting anyone else does this, but I have severe misgivings about the Pardew sacking. I believe we would have a better record over the 4 games since than we have had, for sure.

 

Over four games, possibly, what about the whole season? Gotta look at the bigger picture DPS.

[scotty]

Jeeez - When will people accept that AP was sacked for NON football reasons ???

 

We'll accept it when we know it.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

We're still non the wiser as to why WGS left are we? We were told personal reasons, who knows......

 

Now that is an interesting one if you're privvy to the info I am on this one...

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Over four games, possibly, what about the whole season? Gotta look at the bigger picture DPS.

 

I agree, and I will re-iterate that I do like NA. The issue is for me he is not better than Pardew, and wouldn't be able to take us as far as Pardew. That's why I'm ****ed off that we have no reason for his sacking, at such a stupid time. In fact, if what happened was gross misconduct, I would be expecting Cortese to sue Pardew over breach of contract (much like Chelsea did with Mutu).

[buctootim]

Now that is an interesting one if you're privvy to the info I am on this one...

 

But none of it matters a stuff does it? Lowe is gone, WGS is gone, the players from then are gone. Whats this obsession with why people left and needing to know. Do you obsess everytime a player is sacked, sorry transferred to another club.

[doddisalegend]

And 2 games before.

 

eh? bristol rovers away and bolton at home where our two best performances of the season.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

But none of it matters a stuff does it? Lowe is gone, WGS is gone, the players from then are gone. Whats this obsession with why people left and needing to know. Do you obsess everytime a player is sacked, sorry transferred to another club.

 

Sorry, fair enough, you're right. Why don't you go and post this on every thread that mentions the past, so that everyone knows your position on this. Only by doing this will you get people to realise that they aren't allowed to mention the past.

[Dr Who?]

I think that we need to stick with it and hopefully the form will change. With a bit of luck last night and taking the lead I think we would have won that game. See where we are at the end of October, but I am staying calm until then.

[Jez]

I'm not suggesting anyone else does this, but I have severe misgivings about the Pardew sacking. I believe we would have a better record over the 4 games since than we have had, for sure.

 

So, with this in mind, I will not be present at any games, will not purchase any merchandise and will cut down my use of anything Saints until I receive a satisfactory explanation as to Pardew sacking. And I don't mean the classic 'he had to go', I want a fully ratified reason. Until then there will only be 1 scapegoat for what could be a dire season and that will be Nicola. Mr Cortese it is your prerogative to ensure this doesn't happen. The onus is on you unless you want to be villified by a large section of our fanbase.

 

So what you gonna do when you still haven't heard from Cortese or anyone else about the reasons for Pardew's sacking, and we're in the play-off final? Gonna get a ticket to Wembley? Gonna go when we're doing the same in the Championship, or if (when?) we get back to the Prem? Will you still sit at home and not even keep up with the Saints score at 3pm as you unrealistically want an answer for something that has obviously been kept under wraps for good reason and you might well never know.

 

Like many others have said, you'll be missing out more than Saints will miss you, but I get bet you give in and return to St Mary's before you get any decent explanation. It's not like this is the first time this has ever happened in football, not even in Saints history for a start.

[A Nut Can Cut You]

Just over a year ago the club was close to going out of business until Nicola Cortese came to the rescue with Markus Liebherr. That doesn't mean Cortese's actions are to remain for ever and ever beyond criticism. Criticism is fair game. But the club was on the brink. Just one year ago with the ever popular Pinnacle movers and shakers doing their best to keep the administrator's interest.

 

To boycott the club now because Cortese didn't explain in enough detail why he sacked a manager, that is just utterly preposterous. A year after the Liebherr takeover you've decided it's time for you to boycott the club over Alan f'kin Pardew? Do consider getting a grip. Without Cortese, there was no danger of being upset about Alan f'kin Pardew getting the sack because we would've been lucky to have a club with some former player or unemployed lower league hack as manager. But Nicola is a girl's name and he sacked Alan f'kin Pardew, boohoo.

 

I have nothing against Alan f'kin Pardew, by the way. I thought he did a half-decent job, but I'm not going to stay awake wondering why he was sacked. Cortese felt it had to be done and gave his reasons, and I'll take his word for it. What's done is done. If the decision turns out to be a catastrophe, we can always go back to where we were and maybe attract someone living with his parents to take over the club. In the meantime, why not keep your boycott in your pants without exposing it to the wider public or just get over it.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Just over a year ago the club was close to going out of business until Nicola Cortese came to the rescue with Markus Liebherr. That doesn't mean Cortese's actions are to remain for ever and ever beyond criticism. Criticism is fair game. But the club was on the brink. Just one year ago with the ever popular Pinnacle movers and shakers doing their best to keep the administrator's interest.

 

To boycott the club now because Cortese didn't explain in enough detail why he sacked a manager, that is just utterly preposterous. A year after the Liebherr takeover you've decided it's time for you to boycott the club over Alan f'kin Pardew? Do consider getting a grip. Without Cortese, there was no danger of being upset about Alan f'kin Pardew getting the sack because we would've been lucky to have a club with some former player or unemployed lower league hack as manager. But Nicola is a girl's name and he sacked Alan f'kin Pardew, boohoo.

 

I have nothing against Alan f'kin Pardew, by the way. I thought he did a half-decent job, but I'm not going to stay awake wondering why he was sacked. Cortese felt it had to be done and gave his reasons, and I'll take his word for it. What's done is done. If the decision turns out to be a catastrophe, we can always go back to where we were and maybe attract someone living with his parents to take over the club. In the meantime, why not keep your boycott in your pants without exposing it to the wider public or just get over it.

 

Lol, I read the first sentence then decided i wouldn't bother with it...

[croydonsaint]

Frankly you are not a loyal supporter then are you? I have supported Saints since the late 60's and no matter what happens I go to watch my team play because I SUPPORT Southampton FC. Not the chairman, not the board, not the office staff but the team that plays for my home city. When will people realise that we have no influence on the owners, even when it was PLC shareholders had very little say and no power. We will never know why Pardew was sacked, get over it and move on.

 

Get behind the new manager and the players, that is what true supporters will do

 

Spot on. Now, even in this home for the dim witted and faint hearted can any one argue with I the Rs point.

[RedAndWhite91]

Dibden, please boycott this forum as well, thanks.

[Topcat]

Then I think the club were a bit liberal with the truth. Why has Pardew said nothing? Maybe because he he can't without looking really bad?

I think Reed is a red herring here and the more I hear from reasonably credible people, the more I think Pardew had to go...

Pardew's silence is quite usual, when a Mgr is asked to sign an NDA to get paid off in full. Or when he is about to launch a law suit for compensation.

 

It is conceivable for the Pardew 3 to fall out with Reed's empire and this "co-operation" reason to be used for all 3 to go. If it was for extra-curricular activities that is usually something applicable to 1 and not all 3 people. Extra-curricular activities would also be incompatible with the wording from the Club.

 

Imagine the tribunal. "Yes we fired you for ****g*** but publically we lied and said it was for a lack of co-operation with Sir Less's empire."

[The Dogman Of Bassett]

I'm not suggesting anyone else does this, but I have severe misgivings about the Pardew sacking. I believe we would have a better record over the 4 games since than we have had, for sure.

 

So, with this in mind, I will not be present at any games, will not purchase any merchandise and will cut down my use of anything Saints until I receive a satisfactory explanation as to Pardew sacking. And I don't mean the classic 'he had to go', I want a fully ratified reason. Until then there will only be 1 scapegoat for what could be a dire season and that will be Nicola. Mr Cortese it is your prerogative to ensure this doesn't happen. The onus is on you unless you want to be villified by a large section of our fanbase.

 

The club is clearly better off without fans like you.

[Marsdinho]

Frankly I am embarrassed to call myself a Saints fan, so I'm going to take a step back until I have a reason for this embarrassment.

 

Im emabarrassed that you "support" the same team I do.

 

Why dont you just go shopping with the Mrs on a saturday instead.

[Norm]

I am going to boycott two games this season

Peterborough, daughter wedding day I hope you have a fantastic day!

MK Dons will be on a cruise I hope you get sunburn on that bald patch.

 

Do they count, but I will attend every other game.

 

 

Call yourself a fan? Huh!

[CanadaSaint]

DPS, you should take this guy's advice:

 

It seems after yesterdays game people have completely over-reacted. We lost to Burnley, who are a very good championship side, located a long way from Southampton. I think people still reckon we should be challenging. People need to realise that we are currently a low end Championship side. That's it. And considering the players that we're having to play I think we're actually not doing too shabbily.

 

People are always looking to blame someone. We do live in a blame society. Something goes wrong, someone is to blame. Things happen in cycles (look at Global warming).

 

All I really have to say on the matter is: -

 

Get over it, ffs. Support your club.

 

(Cue loads of people blaming Lowe for everything, yawn.)

 

Ps. I don't want him here, but he's our best option.

[Norm]

DPS, you should take this guy's advice:

 

 

Oh dear, how things can bite you in the bum. Mind you, a little 'below the belt' from the other side of 'the pond'.

[Thedelldays]

DPS, you should take this guy's advice:

 

LOL

 

done him like a kipper

[CanadaSaint]

Oh dear, how things can bite you in the bum. Mind you, a little 'below the belt' from the other side of 'the pond'.

 

I agree, Norm, and I feel like a turd for doing it because DPS is a good guy. And I'm sure I've also done some pretty good U-turns in my time!

 

I'm just sick and tired of all this "I don't want Adkins", "Cortese, tell us what really happened", "I want Pardew back", "I'm boycotting the club", "Cortese's a bar steward", "We don't have any money", and so on crap.

 

But then I'm old enough to believe in Rudyard Kipling's "If".

 

Sorry, DPS.

[Marsdinho]

DPS, you should take this guy's advice:

 

PMSL - some people are thick as f*ck.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

I agree, Norm, and I feel like a turd for doing it because DPS is a good guy. And I'm sure I've also done some pretty good U-turns in my time!

 

I'm just sick and tired of all this "I don't want Adkins", "Cortese, tell us what really happened", "I want Pardew back", "I'm boycotting the club", "Cortese's a bar steward", "We don't have any money", and so on crap.

 

But then I'm old enough to believe in Rudyard Kipling's "If".

 

Sorry, DPS.

 

Nah, you've done me well, good job

 

As alluded to in an earlier post, I realise that the way I look st it has changed, hell, it's changed from 6 weeks ago, I'm just so angry about it all. It's another reason why I feel I should step back, as it's gotten to a point where there is such little information in the public domain that I can trust that it makes every statement I make a firefighting situation. Good find though on that post, who'd have guessed at 1 point I actually wrote stuff that made sense.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

PMSL - some people are thick as f*ck.

 

'Thick as ****' is a bit harsh. I thinly it's thick as ****.to think someone's opinion can't change in 2 years.

[RonManager]

'Thick as ****' is a bit harsh. I thinly it's thick as ****.to think someone's opinion can't change in 2 years.

 

Stunning equalizer by the boy DPS.

[CanadaSaint]

Nah, you've done me well, good job

 

As alluded to in an earlier post, I realise that the way I look st it has changed, hell, it's changed from 6 weeks ago, I'm just so angry about it all. It's another reason why I feel I should step back, as it's gotten to a point where there is such little information in the public domain that I can trust that it makes every statement I make a firefighting situation. Good find though on that post, who'd have guessed at 1 point I actually wrote stuff that made sense.

 

In fairness to you and in contradiction to my groin shot, here's one of my favourite quotes (from John Maynard Keynes):

 

"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?"

 

I still liked the earlier DPS more!

[Thedelldays]

'Thick as ****' is a bit harsh. I thinly it's thick as ****.to think someone's opinion can't change in 2 years.

 

my opinion changes about every 3 months...I now live in the safe knowledge that this is "OK"...

 

[Redondo Saint]

NDA were signed by both of them. Pardew didn't have to sign, did he? It takes two to tango. Go away and think about it a bit more, as it rather looks as if this thread is a reaction to the loss of another game rather than some righteous indignation about a miscarriage of justice. Is Cortese worried about the reaction of a few like you? I don't think so.

 

Agreed.

 

What is it with people demanding to know private information that is kep from the public domain for private reasons??? No one has a right to know other people's business.

Support the club and move on.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

In fairness to you and in contradiction to my groin shot, here's one of my favourite quotes (from John Maynard Keynes):

 

"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?"

 

I still liked the earlier DPS more!

 

You, me and the missus. Earlier DPS wasn't so fat and moody.

[eelpie]

Goodbye then Daren.

[Alan56]

I've sent you a PM to explain why I support the side of Pardew.

 

In response to the rest, maybe I'm not as good a fan as the rest of you, but that still doesn't help to explain a decision that, until I receive a reason for, has really soured my experience of supporting Saints.

 

Well said and believe me you are not alone in your line of thinking!! You are quite entitled to say your experience of supporting the Saints has been soured. Sadly on here many seem to think otherwise.

[Chin Strain]

So, you'll never get an explanation, and will therefore never set foot in SMS again.

 

Are you sure about that?

[gary r]

I'm not suggesting anyone else does this, but I have severe misgivings about the Pardew sacking. I believe we would have a better record over the 4 games since than we have had, for sure.

 

So, with this in mind, I will not be present at any games, will not purchase any merchandise and will cut down my use of anything Saints until I receive a satisfactory explanation as to Pardew sacking. And I don't mean the classic 'he had to go', I want a fully ratified reason. Until then there will only be 1 scapegoat for what could be a dire season and that will be Nicola. Mr Cortese it is your prerogative to ensure this doesn't happen. The onus is on you unless you want to be villified by a large section of our fanbase.

 

Get a life and move on

[Smirking_Saint]

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Get a life and move on

 

But that's it, this situation and Saints as a whole are making my life pretty **** at the moment, so that's one of the points of putting them on the backburner.